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Title: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: moviegoer on Dec 23, 2005, 07:42 PM
Wasn't Heath Ledger an amazing cowboy?

He was so wonderfully in character in that last scene that I could not understand what he said when he looked at Jack's clothes. It's his last line in the movie.

Thanks for clarification!
Title: Re: What is Ennis' last line in the film? (Spoiler?)
Post by: bbm on Dec 23, 2005, 07:49 PM
Wasn't Heath Ledger an amazing cowboy?

He was so wonderfully in character in that last scene that I could not understand what he said when he looked at Jack's clothes. It's his last line in the movie.

Thanks for clarification!

Moviegoer, well Ennis was difficult to understand sometimes but he sure looks great as a cowboy  :) I think he said something like "Jack.."

I have this question myself too and someone else could clarify.
Title: Re: What is Ennis' last line in the film? (Spoiler?)
Post by: brokebackmountain on Dec 25, 2005, 01:44 AM
Ennis's last line in the film is "Jack, I swear". I am not sure what it means exactly. It is worth discussing.  :)

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Title: Re: What is Ennis' last line in the film? (Spoiler?)
Post by: ranchgal on Dec 25, 2005, 01:54 AM
Ennis last line is "Jack I swear......"
and the book adds this-though Jack had never asked him to swear to anything, and was not the swearing kind himself.

I think it means:
....I'm sorry
...for the fight, for the words said that can't be taken back
...For not trying harder to get time in August
....Regretting there won't be a NOvember
....I'm sorry I have to live without you, and I'll never forget and there will never be anyone in my heart like you were.
Title: Re: What is Ennis' last line in the film? (Spoiler?)
Post by: brokebackmountain on Dec 25, 2005, 02:24 AM
Ennis last line is "Jack I swear......"
and the book adds this-though Jack had never asked him to swear to anything, and was not the swearing kind himself.

I think it means:
....I'm sorry
...for the fight, for the words said that can't be taken back
...For not trying harder to get time in August
....Regretting there won't be a NOvember
....I'm sorry I have to live without you, and I'll never forget and there will never be anyone in my heart like you were.

I just love this movie - it is up to anyone's conclusion. It could mean

I swear that I love you
I swear that I miss you
I swear that you are and will be the only one
I swear that I will bring you with me back to Brokeback Mountain
Title: Re: What is Ennis' last line in the film? (Spoiler?)
Post by: Krispera on Dec 27, 2005, 10:40 AM
Well I saw the movie in french (I'm french  :D) I will try to translate.. I think he said '' If I could say.. '' say.. I LOVE YOU! Ennis never had a chance to say '' I love you '' to Jack.. it's make my cry  :-[
Title: Re: What is Ennis' last line in the film? (Spoiler?)
Post by: brokebackmountain on Dec 27, 2005, 10:50 AM
Well I saw the movie in french (I'm french  :D) I will try to translate.. I think he said '' If I could say.. '' say.. I LOVE YOU! Ennis never had a chance to say '' I love you '' to Jack.. it's make my cry  :-[

Great to have a French perspective. Was it a subtitle or voiceover? It is sad that Ennis never had a chance to say that to Jack. Reading your post just makes my eyes teary. (The soundtrack helps too)  :'( :'( :'( :'(

Welcome Krispera!!
Title: Re: What is Ennis' last line in the film? (Spoiler?)
Post by: *Froggy* on Dec 27, 2005, 12:29 PM
Well I saw the movie in french (I'm french  :D) I will try to translate.. I think he said '' If I could say.. '' say.. I LOVE YOU! Ennis never had a chance to say '' I love you '' to Jack.. it's make my cry  :-[

Where and when did you see the movie lucky you!! 
Was the movie doub3ed or with subtitles...cos my friend told me that it ended like in the book..."Jack, I swear"
Title: Re: What is Ennis' last line in the film? (Spoiler?)
Post by: Krispera on Dec 27, 2005, 12:35 PM
With voices (french voices) In french : Jack.. si je pouvais te le dire .. then he started crying. I went Star Cité, at Montreal hehe.. I think I will go watch the movie again to make sure of what I heard but it's something like that! (IT'S something like that but it's not perfect, was not really looking.. something was deconcentrating me heh)
Title: Re: What is Ennis' last line in the film? (Spoiler?)
Post by: *Froggy* on Dec 27, 2005, 12:38 PM
OOOOOOOOOOhhhhhhh lucky you! :o

I have yet to see BBM and like i said before it's driving me nuts!

So unfair  :-\
Title: Jack I swear...(possible spoiler)
Post by: *Froggy* on Dec 28, 2005, 02:23 PM
Well hi everyone...Plagiarism...did i hear someone say plagiarism?

What did Ennis mean? I love the line because it has so many possible meanings, but regardless of Ennis' intent the line conveys his depth of feeling and his "forever" attachment to Jack. Here are some possibilities to finish the line:

"Jack, I swear I'll never forget you."

"Jack, I swear, I talk to you in my head as though you are still here."

"Jack, I swear there is no one else like you."

That was a great thread found on the net...so what do you think?

Here was my favourite reply...actually it was  jeffmallory's!

After reading these posts, there is one aspect I flushed out about the "I swear" comment. Yes, true, it is Ennis saying, I swear Jack, if I could do it over again, we'd be together.

What people may be missing is what leads up to this tear-filled moment of Ennis' -- his daughter's visit. Alma Jr. easily reports her decision to wed--to which we get a thoughtful pause from Ennis and the question, "does this Kurt love you?"

What is possibly going on for Ennis is not only the surprise of hearing about his daughter’s pending marriage (an accepted public display of ones love), but more than that, he notes the simplicity of her being able to openly and publicly announce her open love for the person she deems very important in her life. Ennis is floored by this and is deeply pained at how simple for some making that lovely commitment to your love can be. He feels sadness that he was never able to have this with his only true love. It is the only time he uses the word love. It's almost as if he is saying that he loves Jack in that same moment when he asks Alma the question.

Thus, after this heartbreaking and momentous revelation for Ennis, he says to the only reminder of his only true love, "I swear Jack, I love you and I wish it could have been as simple to say that as it was for my daughter just now. I swear, I'd do it all differently now. I swear jack, I miss you."

What do you think?

Also, Proulx writes at this point when Ennis looks at the shirts & postcard:

"...
He stepped back and looked at the ensemble through a few stinging tears.
'Jack, I swear--' he said, though Jack had never asked him to swear anything and was himself not the swearing kind."

WOW - How beautiful is that? Neither of them were "the kind" to be able to say, nor knew how to say, I love you. Furthermore, Jack never actually ever asked Ennis to tell him he loved him (...had never asked him [Ennis] to swear anything...). What a terrible predicament to be in. They didn't have the vocabulary for their situation. It was so foreign to them--just as it was for Alma Sr. when she saw them kiss--it just wasn't in their paradigm of reality!
Title: Re: Jack I swear...(possible spoiler)
Post by: brokebackmountain on Dec 28, 2005, 03:12 PM
WOW - How beautiful is that? Neither of them were "the kind" to be able to say, nor knew how to say, I love you. Furthermore, Jack never actually ever asked Ennis to tell him he loved him (...had never asked him [Ennis] to swear anything...). What a terrible predicament to be in. They didn't have the vocabulary for their situation. It was so foreign to them--just as it was for Alma Sr. when she saw them kiss--it just wasn't in their paradigm of reality![/color] [/b]

Froggy, that was a very good explanation you provided. It was so tragic but at the same so real. Until these days, they are still many struggling to express their emotions and love.

"I swear" is a very strong phrase from Ennis. He needs to be applauded.

OH...and I LOVE you guys - all the BBM fans.

Froggy - one more note - I merged the topic from the one you started. They seem to go together. I hope you don't mind.  :)
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: Krispera on Dec 28, 2005, 03:22 PM
Wow, nice work! I think you said all the things we need to know.. this movie is so sad  :'(! Do you know wha? The jacket (of jack) and the shirt (of ennis) made me cry at the end when it was inversed  :'(
Title: Re: Jack I swear...(possible spoiler)
Post by: *Froggy* on Dec 28, 2005, 03:22 PM
Froggy - one more note - I merged the topic from the one you started. They seem to go together. I hope you don't mind.  :)

not at all, i knew there was a similar thread, but the system kept bugging...so i posted it...hoping you would do what you did...cheers x
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: *Froggy* on Dec 28, 2005, 03:25 PM
(! Do you know wha? The jacket (of jack) and the shirt (of ennis) made me cry at the end when it was inversed  :'(

I cry...(not so much now), reading the story..or watching the trailer....when i heard about the shirts, i knew i had to buy extra tissues!!!
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: brokebackmountain on Dec 28, 2005, 03:35 PM
(! Do you know wha? The jacket (of jack) and the shirt (of ennis) made me cry at the end when it was inversed  :'(

I cry...(not so much now), reading the story..or watching the trailer....when i heard about the shirts, i knew i had to buy extra tissues!!!

I don't know why....every single time I read posts like these, it makes me goose bumps.  :'(
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: *Froggy* on Dec 28, 2005, 04:00 PM
Nor can i explain why i am so moved by BBM...the story touches me in ways no other books or movies have! I cannot tell my friends why i am so in love with this story, i keep saying that they have to read it or come with me to the movies!
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: raughtic on Dec 28, 2005, 07:08 PM
The main reason why the line "Jack I swear" is so effective in my mind is because
a - it's not some overused phrase that is often heard, it's totally unique to this movie/character/story in this context (it would have been silly if he would have said "I love you" all of a sudden at the end of the film)
b - it is open to some interpretation - people can decide what it means to them
c - it's totally something Ennis would say
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: *Froggy* on Dec 28, 2005, 07:11 PM
b - it is open to some interpretation - people can decide what it means to them

I agree, that's why it is so interesting to discuss, we get to see how other people interpreted it!
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: ranchgal on Dec 29, 2005, 07:54 PM
QUOTE:After reading these posts, there is one aspect I flushed out about the "I swear" comment. Yes, true, it is Ennis saying, I swear Jack, if I could do it over again, we'd be together.QUOTE


It will never mean that to me.  Ennis couldn't live with Jack, he had lots of chances through the years esp. after he was divorced from Alma, and turned them down flat.
He was so ingrained with what was in his head, I believe it would be a complete impossibility for him to ever live with Jack, and since he will never have any other man, that leaves him alone.

I know lots of people will envision that they might be together.  But Ennis has NOT changed within himself--and if you asked him, he would still say he is straight, and even though he loved Jack more than anyone else in his whole life---he would never take the step to put him and and Jack together in a living situation.    People who are saying that, to me, are applying new age standards and ideas to an old age person--the two don't mix, and Ennis is one dog that is NOT going to learn new tricks.  I just could never see it happening.   those are just my own interpretations though, and as everyone knows---this movie is full of deciding for yourself what you see/read.
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: borger1582 on Dec 30, 2005, 02:01 AM
I am really struggling with your post, ranchgal.  I wrote on the IMDB board that I believed Ennis did change, but in character - thus I agree with you that he still would not go back and "ranch up" with Jack, but he might have worked harder to give him more time.  Maybe it's just regret when he says "Jack, I swear . . ." and inside him he knows it could only have been the way it actually was.  ON THE OTHER HAND, especially after being confronted with the actual knowledge of Jack's infidelity, but "torquing it almost back to where it was," maybe Ennis would have changed.

On the IMDB board, several of us saw Ennis' last interaction with his daughter as evidence of this change, his "character arc" if you will.  Others pointed out that there were no social restraints on treating his daughter with greater love (e.g., missing work to attend her wedding) and those social restraints were still shackling Ennis.
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: Wooski on Dec 30, 2005, 04:40 PM

I have always taken that line to mean that if he could do it all again - knowing what he knew at the end - he would have done some things differently.  I'm not saying he would have setup ranch with Jack - but maybe he would have moved nearer or made their relationship easier.  Whatever - its a terrible situation and to fully realise that the other person loved you as much as you loved them - but perhaps never allowed yourself to believe - just heartbreaking.  The regret.
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: ranchgal on Dec 30, 2005, 06:10 PM
While I will certainly agree that" I swear.." may well mean he would have made more time, or used the time differently.   
I also agree that he would probably have made a much bigger effort to see Jack again in August, if he had it to do over.
But I still really am left with feeling his great overwhelming sense of LOSS more than anything else.   And in that context it could be just an expression that actually means NOTHING at all--he is just expressing such a total sense of loss--there isn't anything to add to it in his mind, and that just comes out of his mouth---it is a definate possibility.

I am not so sure that Ennis actually changed all that much!
Yes he did communicate better with his daughter, and seems to be concerned that her man really love her and be good to her---But I believe that tends to be experience, and natural maturing due to more years, rather than Ennis actually changing his views of himself---or his views of him and Jack together.  He doesn't really want her to end up like Alma did with him.  It has  nothing to do with the way He feels or was with Jack.      Because he lost his love, he is now concerned that they don't hurt the way he did, and the way he did when Alma and he divorced---though the former hurt much more than the latter.
That is more fatherly protectionism coming out (in my eyes) than any real ideas about love or anything to do with the way he related to Jack.

I have an interview that Heath did someplace, and Heath  states he doesn't believe Ennis changed or evolved his own ideas about himself either.   Hence that is why he is alone and will most likely remain so.    Everything in this is pretty much open to the viewers interpretations and own impressions.   And this is just mine.
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: natalia on Dec 30, 2005, 06:23 PM
I do somewhat agree with Ranchgal...
I don't think that Ennis' views had changed so significantly that if he were to do it over, he would have gone and lived on a ranch with Jack, happily ever after. I think that in his mind that sort of thing was impossible, something that couldn't be done and was so completely foreign from anything he'd ever experienced that he couldn't wrap his minf around it and Ennis is a character with a strong enough set of views that his mind wouldn't suddenly change (even if Jack had died)
But I think that Ennis regretted that he never really had the chance to tell Jack that he loved him... the even though he would never move onto a ranch with him, as Jack had wanted he had always loved him unconditionally and that would never change. Maybe Ennis just couldn't put it into words in Jacks lifetime, and now that Jack was gone he was not only swearing to Jack that he would always love him, but also being honest and upfront with himself.
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: ranchgal on Dec 30, 2005, 06:40 PM
You said that very nice---and it works for me!! :)
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: stationbbm on Jan 02, 2006, 04:52 PM
Wonderful, wonderful perspectives on this important question...The final scene for Ennis does keep us asking what he must have meant, "Jack, I swear..."  You will also recall that when the camera pans back at Ennis, his eyes are heavily watered up...this is something more than a memory of Jack.  It immediately carried me back to that moment when he jumped back into the alley to release his hidden emotions when Jack drove away.  The clothes, the postcard of Brokeback and the raw emotions still helped me to internalize the depth of his love and sadness and despair and loneliness.  Ennis was a simple-minded cowboy who came into an accidental relationship that changed his life forever.  He had never been loved before and probably won't ever again.  While a cowboy doesn't necessarily say the words, there was no question of their spirited love for one another.  Regrets that he didn't specifically say those words to Jack?  Don't we all have those kinds of regrets? And yet I cannot help but think that when Ennis held Jack humming a song his mother used to sing to him in their final scene together...well, let there be no question.  It was said in a very "unspoken" cowboy way.  Please be mindful:  The cowboy genre in this film is a critical centerpiece.

Was Ennis changed?  Absolutely Ennis was changed...profoundly transformed...he found a way to love and be loved.  Would he be a better communicator? No cowboy would.  Would he run off with Jack and set up his own ranch?  Too risk averse to challenge the societal norms on that.  Would he likely find someone else to fill the void left by Jack?  I bet not.  Too used to being a loner and not willing to step out and take the chance again.  I really viewed the shirts and postcard hung up in his trailer as a type of personal sanctuary for him.  A private and comforting place that would take him back to Brokeback every single day of his life.

stationbbm
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: Toadily on Jan 02, 2006, 04:56 PM
Well put, it's like his "place" he can be with Jack.

One thing that kills me seeing it again was when they first leave Brokeback you know the heart
break ahead and I felt like Ennis and wanted to throw up.  Jack is the optimist who thought he
would see him again and thus wasn't as upset.  I think that the line "this letter is long overdue"
in his first postcard is telling, he thought they would see each other the following summer.
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: tpe on Jan 03, 2006, 11:36 AM
*****SPOILER ALERT*******

First of all, I consider it very powerful that both the short story and the film leave a lot of the most significant things unsaid -- in a way, sort of open-ended. 

The 'Jack, I swear' scene is perhaps one of the most beautiful examples of this economy ( the other being the 'sexless' embrace shown as a flashback at the end of their final meeting).

I think it is precisely this economy that keeps a lot of us going back again and again to the many wonderful scenes in this movie.

As for the phrase in question, I do believe it implies two things:  undying love and eternal regret.

Let me elaborate a bit by sharing a few thoughts.

The original story from Proulx's collection 'Close Range' is a bit harsher than the movie when it comes to the 'Jack, I swear' scene.  In the original story, Ennis says 'Jack, I swear', and the narrator comments that Jack was never the swearing kind, nor did he ever insist that Ennis to do the same (my loose paraphrase).

The film seems to be a bit more explicit and more forgiving in that the scene the preceeds the swearing shows Alma Jr. announcing her intention to marry.  In this wonderful sequence of events, Ennis says to his daughter: 'This Kurt fella, does he love you?' -- the only time the word LOVE is ever said in the entire 2 1/4 hours of the film!  If should also be pointed out that this entire 'marriage announcement' scene is absent from the original story.

According to the original screenplay, Alma Jr. is surprised and touched by her father's concern, and affirms Kurt's love for her.  Immediately after her affirmation, Ennis initially excuses himself from attending the wedding, but changes his mind ('Tell you what...They can find themselves another cowboy [to do his work in the Tetons next summer]').  After toasting Alma Jr. and Kurt, the screenplay says that Ennis looks at his 'luminous' daughter, but cannot completely hide the regret in his face for WHAT HE CAN'T HAVE, FOR WHAT HE WILL NEVER HAVE.

The fact that the 'Jack, I swear' scene comes right after the wedding announcement and the affirmation of love speaks volumes  -- more than all the special effects in a King Kong or a Star Wars epic.

My interpretation is this: it is Ennis' own affirmation of love -- and regret.  Ennis has finally understood a deeper facet of love.  This understanding shines thru when he surprisingly accepts his daughter's wedding invitation (he has at least come to a realization of life's true priorities).  It shines thru when he sees all too clearly his daughter's blossoming love for her husband to be. 

And it is this realization of love both raises Ennis up and crushes him. 

It is because with the realization of his own Love, Ennis also realizes that it is a bit too late for him and Jack.  And the final shot outside the window in a way affirms all of this, for the last words of the screenplay calls to our attention a deep sense of BEAUTY and a profound LONELINESS (the 'vast bleakness of the northern plains') that comes with having loved and having affirmed that love all too late.
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: stationbbm on Jan 03, 2006, 11:52 AM
TPE:  This response is spot on!  No doubt about it.  The timing and sequence of the conversation with Alma, Jr. and the reflection on his relationship with Jack is NO accident.  Those scenes do exactly what you state by bringing the audience into an understanding of Ennis's realization about love and its affirmation all too late.  This is precisely why Ledger will garner the Academy Award in my mind...he so amazingly transforms the Ennis character from beginning to end.  A brilliant study and performance.

Thank you for your thoughtful and generous insight, particularly in comparative to the screenplay and original short story.

stationbbm
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: tpe on Jan 03, 2006, 11:58 AM
Thanks stationbbm  :)

The story and the film have so much in them.  I usually can't see my friends these days without some kind of discussion about a scene from the movie or a line from the screenplay.

I am not sure if it will win any Oscars.  But for me, it is THE BEST film of 2005 and perhaps one of the few I will never tire seeing again and again.
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: Toadily on Jan 03, 2006, 11:48 PM


After seeing it the 4th time, I think I get it more now.  the last line is more of an acceptance than an assertion.
He *knows* now what Jack meant to him, he's been through the famous 5 stages and is in acceptance.  that to me
is all that "Jack I swear" means.
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: brokebackmountain on Jan 04, 2006, 04:38 AM
My interpretation is this: it is Ennis' own affirmation of love -- and regret.  Ennis has finally understood a deeper facet of love.  This understanding shines thru when he surprisingly accepts his daughter's wedding invitation (he has at least come to a realization of life's true priorities).  It shines thru when he sees all too clearly his daughter's blossoming love for her husband to be. 

And it is this realization of love both raises Ennis up and crushes him. 

It is because with the realization of his own Love, Ennis also realizes that it is a bit too late for him and Jack.  And the final shot outside the window in a way affirms all of this, for the last words of the screenplay calls to our attention a deep sense of BEAUTY and a profound LONELINESS (the 'vast bleakness of the northern plains') that comes with having loved and having affirmed that love all too late.


tpe, you summed up very well. Thank you very much! The explanation from the screenplay does make sense and offer a lot of insights. Love and regret - a combination of this tragic relationship. Had Jack not died and disappeared from Ennis's life, Ennis probably would not have recongized the significance of his love to Jack. It is a story that happens all the time.
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: tpe on Jan 04, 2006, 08:15 AM

tpe, you summed up very well. Thank you very much! The explanation from the screenplay does make sense and offer a lot of insights. Love and regret - a combination of this tragic relationship. Had Jack not died and disappeared from Ennis's life, Ennis probably would not have recongized the significance of his love to Jack. It is a story that happens all the time.

Thanks, brokebackmountain.  I appreciate your comments.  Perhaps a story such as this happens too often, which is why a lot of people connect with it.

I have had both gay and straight friends who, after watching the movie, can't completely make out the details or don't fully understand the meaning of certain scenes.  But every one of them share a sense of deep sadness and a feeling of being completely moved by the film.  I suspect what saddens and moves them is what you have just stated.  The sense of loss and missed opportunities is universal.  Everyone who has lived life to some degree has experienced this.  I think this is why Proulx (in one of her interviews) implies that some young people (like the 19 year-old Ennis and Jack) may have a problem fully appreciating this movie.  But I would not be as fearful about this as she is.  Anyone who has loved at some point of his or her life will get something out of Brokeback.  It's hard not to relate to it, sometimes in ways we don't even fully understand.  I, for one, don't exactly get what haunts me in this no-frills story.  It is not one particular scene or one specific character; it is the sum of all parts, I guess.  But how all of it comes together makes some of the scenes absolutely haunting (like the embrace flashback and the discovery of the shirts).
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: jimnick on Jan 04, 2006, 10:30 AM
I agree with Raughtic:  "I swear, Jack" is totally something that Ennis would say.  Man of few (very) words.  But they do mean so much.  I think that he is deeply hurt to find out that Jack MAY have found someone else, but he and we can not be sure of that.  Ennis did make clear that he had better never find out that Jack had had anyone else, but his last line was professing his love and regret and maybe even saying that whoever this other person may have been is not important to him.  Ennis knows emphatically that he is the only one that Jack loved and He is swearing his love back to Jack.  I can't think about it anymore.  If I do I'll weep and I have to go to work now.  Never enough time...

Jimnick
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: howardvl on Jan 05, 2006, 06:50 PM

First of all, I consider it very powerful that both the short story and the film leave a lot of the most significant things unsaid -- in a way, sort of open-ended. 

The 'Jack, I swear' scene is perhaps one of the most beautiful examples of this economy ( the other being the 'sexless' embrace shown as a flashback at the end of their final meeting).

I think it is precisely this economy that keeps a lot of us going back again and again to the many wonderful scenes in this movie.


I'd like to 2nd the praise for your analysis!  It is exactly spot-on in my mind also!  The use of the term "economy" is genius!  I cannot agree more that leaving out the verbal accompaniment in these scenes makes them all the more powerful!  And even more reason for me to shut up now! ha ha

Victor
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: tpe on Jan 05, 2006, 06:57 PM
I'd like to 2nd the praise for your analysis!  It is exactly spot-on in my mind also!  The use of the term "economy" is genius!  I cannot agree more that leaving out the verbal accompaniment in these scenes makes them all the more powerful!  And even more reason for me to shut up now! ha ha

Victor

Many thanks Victor for the praise.  But don't decide to 'shut up' just now.  After all, this forum is kept going by all of us who just can't shut up. ;)
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: skallywalla on Jan 05, 2006, 11:26 PM
TPE - I'm going to sound all American and say your analysis was "right-on!" instead of "spot-on" cause I don't want to try to impersonate someone from the UK. ;)  Thank you for that thoughtful breakdown: I think you've hit the nail on the head.  Yes, it definitely had to be examined why the scene with Alma, Jr. was *added* to the screenplay - scenes like that have to serve some greater purpose, otherwise it would just feel tacked on (and sweet as a scene with his daughter is, no one would be quite as moved if it were completely random).  With a movie that says so little in the most eloquent of ways, stage directions are incredibly important to the overall flow and sense of the story!
Argh, now I have to go see the movie *again* cause I want to watch for the "WHAT HE CAN'T HAVE" expression!  I totally missed it the first and second times, cause I was waiting for Alma, Jr. to forget her sweater and for him to go over to the cabinet with the shirts and his reaction...(and mine!)  :'(

Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: tpe on Jan 06, 2006, 09:56 AM
TPE - I'm going to sound all American and say your analysis was "right-on!" instead of "spot-on" cause I don't want to try to impersonate someone from the UK. ;)  Thank you for that thoughtful breakdown: I think you've hit the nail on the head.  Yes, it definitely had to be examined why the scene with Alma, Jr. was *added* to the screenplay - scenes like that have to serve some greater purpose, otherwise it would just feel tacked on (and sweet as a scene with his daughter is, no one would be quite as moved if it were completely random).  With a movie that says so little in the most eloquent of ways, stage directions are incredibly important to the overall flow and sense of the story!
Argh, now I have to go see the movie *again* cause I want to watch for the "WHAT HE CAN'T HAVE" expression!  I totally missed it the first and second times, cause I was waiting for Alma, Jr. to forget her sweater and for him to go over to the cabinet with the shirts and his reaction...(and mine!)  :'(



Thanks skallywalla.  The last scenes from the movie are so intense because one can't seem to make up one's mind whether to be comforted or to to lose all hope of happiness for Ennis.  This certrifugal tug between love and regret is so hard to manage.  I suspect a lot of people are just quiet when the film ends because they probably don't exactly know how they feel at that moment.   It was only when I got out of the theatre during my first viewing that I began to try sorting out what I was exactly feeling.  Frankly, I don't think I can describe it well -- even now, after having viewed the movie 4 times to date.
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: matt78 on Jan 12, 2006, 08:46 AM
I totally agree. 

if you had to translate "Jack, I swear" - I think it would be "Jack, I  love you"

But in general I think it's such a beautiful verbal expression of FRUSTRATION and of being OVERWHELMED.
All his thoughts and feelings were too much for him to verbalize.  The word love wouldn't even cut it...

I puddle up whenever I think of it.  Saw the movie in my hometown in NJ on New Year's and can't wait for it to come out here in France next week!  :'(
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: tpe on Jan 12, 2006, 09:02 AM
I totally agree. 

if you had to translate "Jack, I swear" - I think it would be "Jack, I  love you"

But in general I think it's such a beautiful verbal expression of FRUSTRATION and of being OVERWHELMED.
All his thoughts and feelings were too much for him to verbalize.  The word love wouldn't even cut it...

I puddle up whenever I think of it.  Saw the movie in my hometown in NJ on New Year's and can't wait for it to come out here in France next week!  :'(

Welcome garc1978!  And thanks for your comments.

The sense of frustration and being overwhelmed is indeed strong in the last scene, but like you, I would like to think that it is Ennis' love for Jack that shines thru on top of all this.

Isn't it funny that love is that one emotion that can coexist and shine thru midst all opposing ones -- all at the same time?  The 'I swear...' scene is a great example of this, in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: *Froggy* on Jan 12, 2006, 11:51 AM
I puddle up whenever I think of it.  Saw the movie in my hometown in NJ on New Year's and can't wait for it to come out here in France next week!  :'(

Welcome to this forum garc1978  ;)

Can you please let us know how they've translated "Jack, I swear" in France?
I assume you will be seeing the dubbed version? If yes, then tell us what you think of the voices too...in the trailer, Ennis speaks really clearly, which would be spoiling it for me ;)

(you can start a new thread in ANYTHING GOES http://www.ennisjack.com/index.php?board=17.0

Thankx Froggy

Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: sharve on Jan 12, 2006, 06:14 PM
The scene (in Quebec at least) was translated "Jack, si tu savais...". If I would translate that back, it would most likely be "Jack, if you knew..."

not quite the same is it
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: Sitaram on Jan 16, 2006, 06:03 AM
Wow, this message board is like a K-mart of peoples souls, where one may browse so many feelings, reactions, insights, and see into the lives of others.

I read once that "literature is philosophy in motion."  Well, stories and movies such as this give us a glimpse into someones life as well as a glimpse into our own souls.

Sorry, I just had to test out what this bbcode does. [- move] [ -/move] A Marquis perhaps?

More important than a vision and insight into they psychodynamics of human sexuality is an understanding of our great need to be loved and cherished as a person, regardless of our sexual orientation.

Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: matt78 on Jan 17, 2006, 09:24 AM
Funny I just posted the same question in another section of the site.

I will let you know how they translate it.  I'll be seeing the French subtitiled version, not the dubbed version, but I will let you know what the subtitle says.

Hopefully it won't say "Jack, si tu savais.."
I'll cringe if they use that as the translation and will have to explain to all my friends that it should read "Jack, je te jure..."

Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: sharve on Jan 17, 2006, 04:19 PM
Funny I just posted the same question in another section of the site.

I will let you know how they translate it.  I'll be seeing the French subtitiled version, not the dubbed version, but I will let you know what the subtitle says.

Hopefully it won't say "Jack, si tu savais.."
I'll cringe if they use that as the translation and will have to explain to all my friends that it should read "Jack, je te jure..."



more appropriatelt, "Jack, je te jure..."
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: matt78 on Jan 17, 2006, 04:50 PM
Tout à fait. 
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: rabjr1 on Jan 17, 2006, 07:57 PM
"Jack, I swear" 

Here is an added thought from me, from my own personal experience: Ennis, since the Thanksgiving dinner scene  he runs out on his ex-wife, her husband and his kids when Alma finally confronts him with what she figured out a long time ago.  He still loved his kids but couldn't face seeing them when there was the spector of Alma's KNOWLEDGE.  He still feels the fear that was branded into him by his father years ago at that gully viewing the corpse of a dead "queer".  I distanced myself emotionally from my famiy because of well.....

He hesitates about going to his daughter's wedding, his daughter is reaching out to her father getting him back into her life, then changes his mind which lights Alma Jr up.  He has been distant from his daughter, the only family left, the only future, Jack is dead.  I can't go on the utter lonliness Ennis faces in his life is too much for me to think about.
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: Rickfreitas on Jan 24, 2006, 06:36 AM
I surely think it's one of the saddest end scenes I ever saw on film. Like that song by The Smiths, Ennis knows that "life is very long when you're lonely". All that remains for him are memories and the mourning for a life that he could have lived but he didn't...
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: monicita on Jan 24, 2006, 08:32 AM
Spoiler alert!!!!

Yes, for me too: One of the very few films.

Reading the thread, I came upon one thing that kind of bothered me. Somebody says that "Ennis was never really loved by anyone else (than Jack)". What about Alma? Did she love Ennis? I would say, yes. She tried to make their life together work. But it couldn't work because she wasn't able to face the truth of his being gay and loving somebody else. When she sees them kiss, she turns away because in her world (and Ennis's too) there just isn't any possibility of talking, even thinking about something like that. But this ultimately means she has let down her love for him and her own self esteem. Even so, I would say she loved him deeply.

And what about his daughter? Ennis's daughter loves him, tries to connect with him (i.e. in the scene when he drops her off after the ecounter with Carrie). And in the end she succeeds.

So: Ennis is loved, the question is, can he love them back?
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: coguaro on Jan 24, 2006, 02:04 PM
The last line from Ennis is "I swear" have been translate "ti giuro..." in Italian.
I don't have to many interpretation about it.
I think this is not only the final line from Ennis, but the final message of the film.

I think it mean... "I swear.. that I will never make a mistake again!! I will never been won by my fears I will always give place to love in my future!!". Ennis regret to have not given enough place to Jack in his live. Than he swears to never mistake again.
In fact Ennis decide to renounce  working (maybe for the first time) to go to Alma Jr marriage... finally he choice to give love someone.

coguaro
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: jimnick on Jan 24, 2006, 05:03 PM
The last line from Ennis is "I swear" have been translate "ti giuro..." in Italian.
I don't have to many interpretation about it.
I think this is not only the final line from Ennis, but the final message of the film.

I think it mean... "I swear.. that I will never make a mistake again!! I will never been won by my fears I will always give place to love in my future!!". Ennis regret to have not given enough place to Jack in his live. Than he swears to never mistake again.
In fact Ennis decide to renounce  working (maybe for the first time) to go to Alma Jr marriage... finally he choice to give love someone.

coguaro

Yes, Coguaro, you are very perceptive.  By promising to go to Alma Jr.s wedding, he is showing his love for someone else.

His swear to Jack maybe a promise to share the love he hides in his heart with the ones he feels it for.

Jim
Title: Re: What is Ennis' last line in the film? (Spoiler?)
Post by: AnitaSmith on Jan 27, 2006, 09:44 PM
Ennis's last line in the film is "Jack, I swear". I am not sure what it means exactly. It is worth discussing.  :)

When Ennis speaks these words, his eyes are filling with tears.  I think it is just an expression of grief and love for Jack so great that they are no words for it.
Title: Re: What is Ennis' last line in the film? (Spoiler?)
Post by: Sitaram on Jan 27, 2006, 09:53 PM
Ennis's last line in the film is "Jack, I swear". I am not sure what it means exactly. It is worth discussing.  :)

When Ennis speaks these words, his eyes are filling with tears.  I think it is just an expression of grief and love for Jack so great that they are no words for it.

Good point!  The character of Ennis is taciturn, a man of few words.  He explicitly states at one point that he has not said much for an entire year.

A scholar might have a Shakespearean soliloquy of meaning lurking behind "I swear", but not Ennis.  He might have said "Damn" and it would have had the same force.

Perhaps I am mistaken.

Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: francis.shim on Jan 29, 2006, 05:32 AM
Howdy, folks...

I thought I would add my take on the last line, but my posting was in another board, plus it was definitely a collaborative take since thanks to "scruffy", I found another take on the last line... please read, enjoy and let me know what you think!

I wanted to add something else to scruffy's great observation of Ennis' last line:

    "Jack, I swear..."

You know in the movie and the short story it was left hanging, because we know what the feeling Ennis must have, but it won't be released... so we won't be released either.

... BUT.... take a look at what *scruffy* did, and I thought, whoa... that's brilliant!!

    "Jack, I swear."

There is no hanging ellipsis... Scruffy suggests that it is a pledge of sort to another person... and I thought that was so cool, because it adds another depth to his love for Jack *sob*
We can put back the ellipsis, but now it put things in a whole new light... so I thought I would post my thinking about the immediate scene right at that last line (thanks scruffy!!):

    --------------------------------------------------------------
As Ennis opened the little closet in his trailer, he gently, but firmly,
straightened the shirts on the makeshift hook: a single finishing nail
driven in just enough to hold.  He had thought he had had a shirt
missing for the darndest time.  Then just after Jack's death, he found
it while visiting Jack's parents.  The shirts were up in Jack's room in
that hide-away little corner of the closet.  There neatly pressed and
hanging on a single hanger was Jack's blue shirt, still bloodied from
the Brokeback days and Ennis' missing black and white plaid shirt, like
a second skin, tucked inside.  Nothing could prepare Ennis for that
flood of memories as he held those shirts, smelled it and then silently
collapsed to his knees.

With the shirts in his trailer, Ennis has since then placed his white
and black plaid shirt over Jack's, like the wings of a protecting angel
around a precious soul.

This arrangement did right by Ennis as his eyes ran across the shirts to
the hanger to the finishing nail... and then to the picture of Brokeback
Mountain.  He took it all in, his eyes filling to the brim.

    "Jack, I swear..."

Ennis had a whole MOUNTAIN of things to say, but what he said was
enough, because it was his turn to take care of Jack... that
sweet-stinkin' guy Jack... the only thing he had now is this private bible,
a testament to his loving truth of Jack.
    -----------------------------

What do y'all think?

Peace,
Frank
Title: "Jack.. I Swear" possible spoilers?
Post by: Italian_Dude on Jan 29, 2006, 11:31 AM
The last scene at the end when ennis says "Jack.. I swear" and the movie ends.
What do you think he meant by that? I'm not quite sure what I think and I know it's open for interpretation.
I think maybe he swears that he loved him, or if he could do it again it would be different.. or both. I don't know..

what do you guys think??
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: *Froggy* on Jan 29, 2006, 11:49 AM
Hope you don't mind merging those two threads together  ;)
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: ranchgal on Jan 29, 2006, 04:56 PM
I totally agree. 

if you had to translate "Jack, I swear" - I think it would be "Jack, I  love you"

But in general I think it's such a beautiful verbal expression of FRUSTRATION and of being OVERWHELMED.
All his thoughts and feelings were too much for him to verbalize.  The word love wouldn't even cut it...

I puddle up whenever I think of it.  Saw the movie in my hometown in NJ on New Year's and can't wait for it to come out here in France next week!  :'(

Definately possible, but I think maybe in my mind---when I think of that I hear him saying
Jack, I swear .........That I miss you.    I hear that in his voice and face even more than "love you."which I don't think Ennis could ever actually bring himself to say----BUT He would/could say "miss You."    and from him those words would mean the same thing. :)
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: karind1 on Jan 29, 2006, 05:07 PM
be sure to watch the charlie rose show interview with ang (and heath) but ang will answer some of your questions.  it is posted i believe in the news forum from ethan the link to the show  (he talks about ennis realizeing the love while looking at the shirt in the I swear scene)
or actually here is link   Heath Ledger And Ang Lee Brokeback Mountain interview with Charlie Rose Video - 12/7/05

http://www.heathledgercentral.com/bbcharlieroseinterview.html
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: jimnick on Jan 29, 2006, 05:08 PM
I totally agree. 

if you had to translate "Jack, I swear" - I think it would be "Jack, I  love you"

But in general I think it's such a beautiful verbal expression of FRUSTRATION and of being OVERWHELMED.
All his thoughts and feelings were too much for him to verbalize.  The word love wouldn't even cut it...

I puddle up whenever I think of it.  Saw the movie in my hometown in NJ on New Year's and can't wait for it to come out here in France next week!  :'(

Definately possible, but I think maybe in my mind---when I think of that I hear him saying
Jack, I swear .........That I miss you.    I hear that in his voice and face even more than "love you."which I don't think Ennis could ever actually bring himself to say----BUT He would/could say "miss You."    and from him those words would mean the same thing. :)

I think he would mean the same thing too, but there's nothing in this world like hearing the one you love saying "I LOVE YOU"

Uh Oh, I just struck a tender chord in myself...

Blubbering mess now!

Jim
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: Titus on Jan 30, 2006, 03:00 PM
TPE is full of wisdom and insight.  I saw the film again today for the third time in 7 days (only cried three times this go round!) and paid special attention to the details we have been questioning.  "I swear..."  rang crystal clear as "I love you" to me this afternoon, not just for the reasons TPE has suggested above (the converstion about her upcoming marriage and "does he love you?").  When Alma enthusiastically affirms that he does (what else would a bride think?), Ennis can't look her in the face, he has to turn and look out the window.  This is a man who can hide his true feelings fairly well (check the scene at Jack's parents house when angry Dad spills the beans about the rancer Jack was planning to bring up to the old homeplace and build a cabin with). 

Ennis knows that any man should love the woman he asks to marry.  It is perfectly natural.  But Jack has come to mind and he can't hide the feelings rising up at that very moment as he evalutes his own relationship with Jack in light of this oh so traditional and accepted form that Alma has announced for herself.  His face, even in profile, is wrought with emotion.  This is a man who can barely contain the revelation that he has always loved Jack.  The "I swear..." spoken to the makeshift shrine (the only physical link that remains of Jack) and capped off by the lover buttoning the beloved's shirt.  (Oh f**k, where's the kleenex?)  This scene is what gives me hope for Ennis.  Thanks, TPE.
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: Toadily on Jan 30, 2006, 03:03 PM
TPE is full of wisdom and insight.  I saw the film again today for the third time in 7 days (only cried three times this go round!) and paid special attention to the details we have been questioning.  "I swear..."  rang crystal clear as "I love you" to me this afternoon, not just for the reasons TPE has suggested above (the converstion about her upcoming marriage and "does he love you?").  When Alma enthusiastically affirms that he does (what else would a bride think?), Ennis can't look her in the face, he has to turn and look out the window.  This is a man who can hide his true feelings fairly well (check the scene at Jack's parents house when angry Dad spills the beans about the rancer Jack was planning to bring up to the old homeplace and build a cabin with). 

Ennis knows that any man should love the woman he asks to marry.  It is perfectly natural.  But Jack has come to mind and he can't hide the feelings rising up at that very moment as he evalutes his own relationship with Jack in light of this oh so traditional and accepted form that Alma has announced for herself.  His face, even in profile, is wrought with emotion.  This is a man who can barely contain the revelation that he has always loved Jack.  The "I swear..." spoken to the makeshift shrine (the only physical link that remains of Jack) and capped off by the lover buttoning the beloved's shirt.  (Oh f**k, where's the kleenex?)  This scene is what gives me hope for Ennis.  Thanks, TPE.

That's really lovely.  You are making me cry, yes he realizes it wasn't "this thing"
after he loses Jack. 
Title: The Last word that Ennis said...
Post by: Ai.Chj13 on Feb 01, 2006, 02:17 AM
Sorry guys, i know this is a dumb question. But since I didn't get the last word that Ennis said in his trailer with tears...
What did he say when he was looking at Jack's jacket and the Brokeback mountain postcard?  :-[
It kinda bugged me all this time since my english is not so good and to deal with those cowboys accent...
(Although i didn't get some of the parts but the movie still brought me lots and lots of tears... :'( )

btw, love the movie, the forum is GREAT, love to read all the comments and posts
hope the movie will win many oscars so more ppl would go see the movie and get addicted to it like i do.

*peace*
Title: Re: The Last word that Ennis said...
Post by: backtobrokeback on Feb 01, 2006, 05:57 PM
Ennis said in the film what he said in the book:  "Jack, I swear... --" 

It's a topic worthy of discussion as to what was in his head with those three little dots, and how he would finish that thought, but I'm sure there's a thread here for that somewhere.

btb
Title: Re: The Last word that Ennis said...
Post by: tpe on Feb 01, 2006, 06:27 PM
Hello Ai.Chj13 and backtobrokeback.

There is a lengthy old thread that deals with this.  I will merge this discussion with the old thread.  Feel free to continue this discussion. :)
Title: Re: The Last word that Ennis said...
Post by: tpe on Feb 01, 2006, 06:40 PM
Merge accomplished!  :)
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: backtobrokeback on Feb 02, 2006, 10:30 AM
Wow, thanks, tpe!  I wondered how a two post thread got up to three pages over night :-D

btb
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: tpe on Feb 02, 2006, 11:08 AM
Wow, thanks, tpe!  I wondered how a two post thread got up to three pages over night :-D

btb

You're welcome, backtobrokeback.  Again, feel free to post additional thoughts.  I think everyone agrees that this last scene and the last phrase says it all.  We've barely scratched the surface, I suspect...
Title: Re: The Last word that Ennis said...
Post by: cybernaut on Feb 02, 2006, 12:23 PM
Jack, I swear....

I realised that Ennis has a lot of things to say to Jack and that longing desire to bring him back but I guess its all too late now.
Title: Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
Post by: matsuki33 on Mar 04, 2006, 11:43 PM
i already post this on another thread but it is worth for me to post it here again

I have read the story and I have seing the movie twice, as matter of fact I went to see for the 2nd time today, and I might need to say that I truly have the belief the Ennis change through all the movie from that person that was kinda cold to that warm person, and i say warm because in a certain way I think that Jack woke up in his heart that part that not much of us have feelings, because we can say that we have feelings when we don't truly have them. because having feelings are not just showing sadness, fear, happiness, etc, in fact it is something more deeply. because you realize what is truly have feelings when you meet that person that make you loose your mind, that person that you don't stop thinking and for which you'll do everything and would like to show him /her that.

To me Ennis liked Alma but he really Loved Ennis and all of us agreed that but it was more deep Jack was the person that share that link those feelings that none other was. throught the movie you see Ennis being showing a lot of joy and feelings when he was with Jack more that the ones he showed with Alma, and i say Alma. Ennis was the kind of person that put a protective shell to hide from the world and Jack broke it, he entered in his heart and stayed there forever. Some people said that it was all sex, but i need to tell you something Waiting four years to hear of some sign of live, indeed is not just for sex it was Love. The way that he hug jack in that aggressive way was not in that way he was so full of joy, rage and love. When he kissed him it was saying in corporal language "I love you and I'll forever will". Ennis was himself with jack it was the only person that saw him smiling more than other they shared toguetter his feelings. Jack teached Ennis to be himself, but Ennis was not prepared to be able to be with jack because eventhough that he loved him he was scared of everything. it is like those little puppies that when they are separated from their mother and you bring them to your home they try to hide themselves because they are scare and they don't know what to expect. that is what ennis was he was scared of being killed or discoverded and i think that it was not for him it was more for Jack he was worried of loosing it. you see that in all the movie he start worrying for jack and jack was indeed was in his hear.

Jack broke his shell  and in wrote with blood in his heart his name, he was part of him he was his other half when you see the scene in which they talk about mexico you discover for the first time that Ennis was capable of being Jealous and that in fact he was afraid of loosing jack and not being able to have a part of jack. he was in that scene scared of jack experiences he was scare that jack may not feel the same for him. he was hurted, it is hard to discover that the person you love is not a 100% with you. to him was hard to believe that jack was with other men, he could stand women (which is weird to me) but not men, because that was just between them.

Ennis last word to Jack was It is because of you that i'm like that, not what he really wanted to say but it could be part of his sadness that his last words hurted his last one. he knew that jack loved him but he was scared and hurt. And when he realizes that he was dead his mind start to blame him it was because of him it was his fault. maybe if he hadn't cancel august maybe he still alive, or maybe that when he went to his house he should have accept him inn, but there were a lot of things that may have make him feel. the person he loved for all his live was dead.

whe you read the short story you see that at the end he growed up as a person because he lost his job and was up the point of being in a bad situation but just because Jack Twist was in his dreams he was happy. he truly grew up as a person and in the short story you understand that he was able at the end for showing his feelings with his loved ones.

the same in the movie, to me Alma Jr always knew that he loved jack because whe you see her talking with the bar lady you realized she knew something because she said maybe he's not the marrying kind and she grew up seeing ennis and jack and may have heard her mother saying something and i think that was the one more closest to him. and when she visit him it was in a way really emotive she always managed to talk with his father and share her feelings with him. her face when he said that he was not going was valuable without any word she said dad i'll be sad if you are not there dad please, and ennis realized that he let that happen before that he lost jack because he canceled him his meeting. he realize that when you love someone you never let that person alone you are with that person in the good one and the bad ones.

and when he open the closet and saw his shirt and jack's shirt as one skin, he knew that like in Jack's house he have Ennis under his as a way of saying that Ennis was in his heart he was with Jack under his because it was Jack that was on his heart.

and when he said "Jack I swear" he may have said Jack" I swear that I'm sorry for not leting you be with me but you must never think that i never loved you because I do and will always love you Little darlin"