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Forum Newsletters / Re: Forum closure - January 31, 2022
« Last post by tizi17 on Jan 04, 2022, 05:09 PM »
dearest ethan, dear all of you!

it has been the most incredible journey of my life, and i have to thank you, each and everyone who made this place a home for me, and so many others who had felt lost after the impact of our movie. coming here opened a door to a wonderful world for me, in a metaphorical sense.
but not only.
i had the joy to feel the wonder of meeting like minded people like friends i never knew i had.
and still have the joy to know and call my friends.

ethan, thank you for this journey. i know it is a difficult step for you. but we understand, and are by your side. and will always be grateful for your dedication.

BBM forever.
Forum Newsletters / Re: Forum closure - January 31, 2022
« Last post by hpv on Jan 04, 2022, 04:48 PM »
I can't believe that our amazing forum is closing . In the beginning, I've been spending many hours almost every day here !
I know that I wasn't been around much lately
but I loved to come from time to time just read and see if there is something interesting posted in here.
Thank you Ethan for all the effort you put in our forum   (:*  love  and peace  :ghug:  <^(  :s:

Forum Newsletters / Re: Forum closure - January 31, 2022
« Last post by FlwrChild on Jan 04, 2022, 10:20 AM »
Wow, I can't believe this part of our journey is coming to an end! I haven't been around much the last few years but somehow knowing that when I come back, it's always here has been an enormous comfort. Like Ennis and Jack finding their way out into the middle of nowhere every now and then. I'll have to beef up my supply of postcards.

Thank you to Ethan for creating this place that has meant so much to so many. Thank you to the moderating team for maintaining the space with such care and thoughtfulness. And thank you to everyone who has ever commented, posted pictures, or just stopped in to visit and leave your print in the sand. It's been a haven, an inspiration, and a reminder that kindness, respect, creativity and love are present in the world all around us if we open our eyes, our minds and our hearts to see it. It has been an honor and a privilege to walk this path on the mountain with my forum family. I love you and wish you all the very best that life has to offer. A piece of each of you will always be in my heart.
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Forum Newsletters / Forum closure - January 31, 2022
« Last post by ethan on Jan 04, 2022, 08:04 AM »
Happy New Year! We hope this newsletter finds you safe, happy and healthy.

This newsletter is to notify you that the EnnisJack forum will close on January 31, 2022 after more than 16 years of campfire up on Brokeback.

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Over the years, we have made more than 1 million posts with members from all over the world. It has been amazing to see the movie Brokeback Mountain touching so many lives in so many ways. We thank you for your love and support and for sharing part of your life with us.

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AP Short Story & Screenplay / Re: Comparison between short story and movie
« Last post by jjeff on Aug 12, 2021, 05:54 AM »
One of Annie Proulx's stories is about a guy who accidently discovers a door to another dimension (she never tries to explain what it is exactly). He found that he could maneuver his enemies into it and they would disappear. He was pretty petty. He used it to get out of debts and stuff. I think that was the whole "moral" of the story, the guy's pettiness. It's hard to take Proulx's writing serious because she doesn't. None of it is very interesting except for Brokeback Mountain. It's true that the movie takes the story in a different direction. The original story doesn't really take it anywhere. Although it seems they travelled around the entire state of Wyoming, they never went back to Brokeback. Maybe it was an unspoken realization that they could never have that again, so why spoil the memory. One thing is very plain, Ennis and Jack never had any control over their lives. Things just happened. This is an underlying theme in all of Proulx's writing. There was even a sense of inevitability when Jack died. It was like it had to happen. Proulx writes with a sense of detachment, just reporting things without any value judgement. I don't know if that is good or bad.
It's funny how these threads go on for years. But it really doesn't matter, since the subject doesn't change.

This was obviously one of the movie's most important scenes. There are a couple of things. I think there was a lack of communication (since Ennis didn't talk much). Sometimes people project what they want onto a blank page. Maybe Jack thought Ennis had given him some encouragement when he actually hadn't.

Ennis used distance and solitude to control his feelings. Suddenly he didn't have either one. To keep control, he needed distance and solitude again.

I think their times together was a source of pain for Ennis. He would often be overcome by physical feelings of nausea and fall on the ground when they had to leave each other. He never let Jack or anyone else see it except for that last time. It was a weakness in himself that he detested. Maybe being with his girls opened him up and exposed his feelings and he had to clamp down on them fast. It's hard when you have to act one way with some people and another way with someone else and suddenly they are there together and you don't know what to do.

Maybe Ennis was just a dumb cowboy without emotional depth. But in any case, I don't think Ennis felt any regret. He probably just plain didn't understand it. I really relate to both guys. I grew up in rural Utah, which isn't a lot different than rural Wyoming and the scenes of solitude and poverty are the same things I saw every day. It can be a lonely life and I still carry the scars.
Characters, Quotes & Scenes / Re: Jack and Ennis description in the story
« Last post by pierralex on Jun 07, 2021, 07:17 PM »
You're right! Hollywood picks good looking characters because they are more appealing and easier to watch on a screen for the duration of the film. It just attracts more viewers, something which is important for any studio I guess.
I am not a fan of the writing style of Mrs Proulx as well. But in the short story the lives of the characters match the harsh style of storytelling I think. If I recall correctly she wanted to write a short story about homophobia in rural USA. The movie additions are very nice but focus the whole story more about the love story and lives of Ennis and Jack, I find. It isn't a bad thing, I too prefer the movie.
Characters, Quotes & Scenes / Re: Did Lureen Have Jack Killed?
« Last post by AddieTatum16 on May 30, 2021, 12:20 AM »
I honestly don't believe that Lureen killed Jack. I mean sure she may have become embittered over the years (I mean, any of us would if our spouses became unfaithful), but I don't think she was the culprit. If you look carefully during the scene where she is on the phone with Ennis, you can see she has tears in her eyes. Therefore, it's implied that she found out that her husband loved Ennis, more than he ever loved her, and was heartbroken about it.
I agree with you that the film is a lot better. Though I wish they could have at least kept Ennis' term of endearment for Jack ("Little Darlin' ") in the screenplay!
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