Topic: The 101 Kisses of BBM

[JT]

Yes After all this time I cannot watch the "death scene" without covering my eyes or sqinting. It's so powerfully brutal and sad.
I just happenesd to watch the reunion scene last night and I must say this award winning kiss is the stuff dreams are made of. Ennis had waited all friggin day to do this. The look in his eyes when he laid eyes on Jack again after four years (sigh). Wild horses coud'nt have stopped him from running down those steps to feel Jack in his arms again. I don't know how much planning Ennis did or if it was a spur of the moment thing, but when he laid that SWEET kiss on Jack I thought about the contrasting passion element with those he gave Alma. FORGETABOUTIT!. This was pure raw desire at it's finest. I was so happy for Jack ,( the suprised look on his face ) was priceless. He totally did not expect this Ennis though he had high hopes. His statement "Oh God" before he himself gave as well as he got is very telling.Alma? Who's Alma?....Damn!

Yes, that kiss is the most amazing kiss in the movie.  And what makes it even better is the fact that Ennis acted first.  He doesn't need Jack to initiate, although Jack was the first to send the post card.

[tpe]

Yes After all this time I cannot watch the "death scene" without covering my eyes or sqinting. It's so powerfully brutal and sad.
I just happenesd to watch the reunion scene last night and I must say this award winning kiss is the stuff dreams are made of. Ennis had waited all friggin day to do this. The look in his eyes when he laid eyes on Jack again after four years (sigh). Wild horses coud'nt have stopped him from running down those steps to feel Jack in his arms again. I don't know how much planning Ennis did or if it was a spur of the moment thing, but when he laid that SWEET kiss on Jack I thought about the contrasting passion element with those he gave Alma. FORGETABOUTIT!. This was pure raw desire at it's finest. I was so happy for Jack ,( the suprised look on his face ) was priceless. He totally did not expect this Ennis though he had high hopes. His statement "Oh God" before he himself gave as well as he got is very telling.Alma? Who's Alma?....Damn!

There is one word that describes that kiss: elemental.  As I said in another post, how could have Jack doubted Ennis's love for him after that kiss?

[aintfoolin]

Jack sent that postcard, yes indeed. and was as if Jack had sent Ennis the rest of his life. I think when Alma announced that there was a postcard from Jack, Ennis knew then that a new chapter in his life was about to open. Jack was coming back into he's life and this time he was;nt about to let him slip away again. When he came home from work that day there was no kisses for lma or Alma Jr. either. His body language when he came home that day spoke volumes. He was bored or frustrated about something ,same old ,same old. When he knew Jack was coming he knew what was missing all along. The real spice of his life....Jack. Those kisses were genuine. At long last ...love.  IMO all three of these women including Cassie were hoping for something that could never be. My 2 cents.

[tpe]

It's amazing what an emotional rollercoaster that part of the movie is.  After seeing the mundane lives they led in the intervening 4 years, we were not totally prepared to take in the intensity of the reunion kiss.  I think the great contrasts and sudden emotional surge was deliberate.  That kiss leaps over the intervening 4 years to bring us back to the Mountain, or at least what it signified.

[JT]

There is one word that describes that kiss: elemental.  As I said in another post, how could have Jack doubted Ennis's love for him after that kiss?

The way I see it, Jack often thought that Ennis wanted him for sex only and not loving him enough to live with him.  This kiss was very passionate as opposed to the dozy embrace which is pure love and very sweet, the kind that I think Jack has been searching for all his life.

[jacks_key]

^^Well said, JT.  I completely agree.   

[tpe]

The way I see it, Jack often thought that Ennis wanted him for sex only and not loving him enough to live with him.  This kiss was very passionate as opposed to the dozy embrace which is pure love and very sweet, the kind that I think Jack has been searching for all his life.

Yes, he longed for this.  In a sense, the Dozy Embrace is greater than any kiss.

[welshwitch]

or me the dozy embrace is a parallele with SNIT - both are slow and full of tenderness, not passionate but revealing the underlying closeness that ought to be part of a lasting relationship. Passion and desire die away, but caring and affection don't.

[tpe]

I liken the Dozy Embrace to a chaste but meaningful kiss, while the embraces and kisses in SNIT and in the reunion scene are more about passion as much as about love. 

It is interesting that Jack remembered an embrace rather than a kiss.  It is hard to disassociate passion from a kiss shared by 2 lovers, no?  For me, it is telling that an embrace is used to signify sexless desire.  It reminds me of some of Burne-Jones paintings of sexless/quasi-religious embraces, as opposed to Rossetti's more voluptuous representations of kisses and embraces.

[chameau]

It is interesting that Jack remembered an embrace rather than a kiss.  It is hard to disassociate passion from a kiss shared by 2 lovers, no?  For me, it is telling that an embrace is used to signify sexless desire.  It reminds me of some of Burne-Jones paintings of sexless/quasi-religious embraces, as opposed to Rossetti's more voluptuous representations of kisses and embraces.

For me when the dozzy embrance occurs, it's later in the summer, there is less sexual frenzy and more assumed love I would say.

[tpe]

For me when the dozzy embrance occurs, it's later in the summer, there is less sexual frenzy and more assumed love I would say.

It was like the "autumn" of their love on Brokeback, I guess.  What started with a frenzy of passionate kisses ended with something very close to contentment.