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Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
« Reply #60 on: Jan 30, 2006, 03:03 PM »
TPE is full of wisdom and insight.  I saw the film again today for the third time in 7 days (only cried three times this go round!) and paid special attention to the details we have been questioning.  "I swear..."  rang crystal clear as "I love you" to me this afternoon, not just for the reasons TPE has suggested above (the converstion about her upcoming marriage and "does he love you?").  When Alma enthusiastically affirms that he does (what else would a bride think?), Ennis can't look her in the face, he has to turn and look out the window.  This is a man who can hide his true feelings fairly well (check the scene at Jack's parents house when angry Dad spills the beans about the rancer Jack was planning to bring up to the old homeplace and build a cabin with). 

Ennis knows that any man should love the woman he asks to marry.  It is perfectly natural.  But Jack has come to mind and he can't hide the feelings rising up at that very moment as he evalutes his own relationship with Jack in light of this oh so traditional and accepted form that Alma has announced for herself.  His face, even in profile, is wrought with emotion.  This is a man who can barely contain the revelation that he has always loved Jack.  The "I swear..." spoken to the makeshift shrine (the only physical link that remains of Jack) and capped off by the lover buttoning the beloved's shirt.  (Oh f**k, where's the kleenex?)  This scene is what gives me hope for Ennis.  Thanks, TPE.

That's really lovely.  You are making me cry, yes he realizes it wasn't "this thing"
after he loses Jack. 
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The Last word that Ennis said...
« Reply #61 on: Feb 01, 2006, 02:17 AM »
Sorry guys, i know this is a dumb question. But since I didn't get the last word that Ennis said in his trailer with tears...
What did he say when he was looking at Jack's jacket and the Brokeback mountain postcard?  :-[
It kinda bugged me all this time since my english is not so good and to deal with those cowboys accent...
(Although i didn't get some of the parts but the movie still brought me lots and lots of tears... :'( )

btw, love the movie, the forum is GREAT, love to read all the comments and posts
hope the movie will win many oscars so more ppl would go see the movie and get addicted to it like i do.

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Re: The Last word that Ennis said...
« Reply #62 on: Feb 01, 2006, 05:57 PM »
Ennis said in the film what he said in the book:  "Jack, I swear... --" 

It's a topic worthy of discussion as to what was in his head with those three little dots, and how he would finish that thought, but I'm sure there's a thread here for that somewhere.

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Re: The Last word that Ennis said...
« Reply #63 on: Feb 01, 2006, 06:27 PM »
Hello Ai.Chj13 and backtobrokeback.

There is a lengthy old thread that deals with this.  I will merge this discussion with the old thread.  Feel free to continue this discussion. :)

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Re: The Last word that Ennis said...
« Reply #64 on: Feb 01, 2006, 06:40 PM »
Merge accomplished!  :)

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Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
« Reply #65 on: Feb 02, 2006, 10:30 AM »
Wow, thanks, tpe!  I wondered how a two post thread got up to three pages over night :-D

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He pressed his face into the fabric and breathed in slowly through his mouth and nose, hoping for the faintest smoke and mountain sage and salty sweet stink of Jack but there was no real scent, only the memory of it, the imagined power of Brokeback Mountain of which nothing was left but what he held in his hands. Make the pledge! Go Back to Brokeback whenever, however you can. Join the BTB Project.

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Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
« Reply #66 on: Feb 02, 2006, 11:08 AM »
Wow, thanks, tpe!  I wondered how a two post thread got up to three pages over night :-D

btb

You're welcome, backtobrokeback.  Again, feel free to post additional thoughts.  I think everyone agrees that this last scene and the last phrase says it all.  We've barely scratched the surface, I suspect...

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Re: The Last word that Ennis said...
« Reply #67 on: Feb 02, 2006, 12:23 PM »
Jack, I swear....

I realised that Ennis has a lot of things to say to Jack and that longing desire to bring him back but I guess its all too late now.
I'm saying a prayer of thanks... that you didn't bring your harmonica!

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Re: The Last Line from Ennis (possible spoiler)
« Reply #68 on: Mar 04, 2006, 11:43 PM »
i already post this on another thread but it is worth for me to post it here again

I have read the story and I have seing the movie twice, as matter of fact I went to see for the 2nd time today, and I might need to say that I truly have the belief the Ennis change through all the movie from that person that was kinda cold to that warm person, and i say warm because in a certain way I think that Jack woke up in his heart that part that not much of us have feelings, because we can say that we have feelings when we don't truly have them. because having feelings are not just showing sadness, fear, happiness, etc, in fact it is something more deeply. because you realize what is truly have feelings when you meet that person that make you loose your mind, that person that you don't stop thinking and for which you'll do everything and would like to show him /her that.

To me Ennis liked Alma but he really Loved Ennis and all of us agreed that but it was more deep Jack was the person that share that link those feelings that none other was. throught the movie you see Ennis being showing a lot of joy and feelings when he was with Jack more that the ones he showed with Alma, and i say Alma. Ennis was the kind of person that put a protective shell to hide from the world and Jack broke it, he entered in his heart and stayed there forever. Some people said that it was all sex, but i need to tell you something Waiting four years to hear of some sign of live, indeed is not just for sex it was Love. The way that he hug jack in that aggressive way was not in that way he was so full of joy, rage and love. When he kissed him it was saying in corporal language "I love you and I'll forever will". Ennis was himself with jack it was the only person that saw him smiling more than other they shared toguetter his feelings. Jack teached Ennis to be himself, but Ennis was not prepared to be able to be with jack because eventhough that he loved him he was scared of everything. it is like those little puppies that when they are separated from their mother and you bring them to your home they try to hide themselves because they are scare and they don't know what to expect. that is what ennis was he was scared of being killed or discoverded and i think that it was not for him it was more for Jack he was worried of loosing it. you see that in all the movie he start worrying for jack and jack was indeed was in his hear.

Jack broke his shell  and in wrote with blood in his heart his name, he was part of him he was his other half when you see the scene in which they talk about mexico you discover for the first time that Ennis was capable of being Jealous and that in fact he was afraid of loosing jack and not being able to have a part of jack. he was in that scene scared of jack experiences he was scare that jack may not feel the same for him. he was hurted, it is hard to discover that the person you love is not a 100% with you. to him was hard to believe that jack was with other men, he could stand women (which is weird to me) but not men, because that was just between them.

Ennis last word to Jack was It is because of you that i'm like that, not what he really wanted to say but it could be part of his sadness that his last words hurted his last one. he knew that jack loved him but he was scared and hurt. And when he realizes that he was dead his mind start to blame him it was because of him it was his fault. maybe if he hadn't cancel august maybe he still alive, or maybe that when he went to his house he should have accept him inn, but there were a lot of things that may have make him feel. the person he loved for all his live was dead.

whe you read the short story you see that at the end he growed up as a person because he lost his job and was up the point of being in a bad situation but just because Jack Twist was in his dreams he was happy. he truly grew up as a person and in the short story you understand that he was able at the end for showing his feelings with his loved ones.

the same in the movie, to me Alma Jr always knew that he loved jack because whe you see her talking with the bar lady you realized she knew something because she said maybe he's not the marrying kind and she grew up seeing ennis and jack and may have heard her mother saying something and i think that was the one more closest to him. and when she visit him it was in a way really emotive she always managed to talk with his father and share her feelings with him. her face when he said that he was not going was valuable without any word she said dad i'll be sad if you are not there dad please, and ennis realized that he let that happen before that he lost jack because he canceled him his meeting. he realize that when you love someone you never let that person alone you are with that person in the good one and the bad ones.

and when he open the closet and saw his shirt and jack's shirt as one skin, he knew that like in Jack's house he have Ennis under his as a way of saying that Ennis was in his heart he was with Jack under his because it was Jack that was on his heart.

and when he said "Jack I swear" he may have said Jack" I swear that I'm sorry for not leting you be with me but you must never think that i never loved you because I do and will always love you Little darlin"