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jack picking up hints :) !
« on: Sep 04, 2010, 03:03 PM »
Did anybody notice that in the first summer in BB after the "elk kill" day, when jack was complaining of his work and ennis proposed switching while he was cooking a meal (ooo so subtle but so sweeeeeet ) how jack checked out ennis !!!a searing glance from top to bottom as if he could see through ennis ..... a fraction of a second but wow. I think Jack was picking up "hints" from ennis .. this scene did not strike me when i saw the film for the first or even second and third time but much later..

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Re: jack picking up hints :) !
« Reply #1 on: Sep 05, 2010, 01:53 PM »
Did anybody notice that in the first summer in BB after the "elk kill" day, when jack was complaining of his work and ennis proposed switching while he was cooking a meal (ooo so subtle but so sweeeeeet ) how jack checked out ennis !!!a searing glance from top to bottom as if he could see through ennis ..... a fraction of a second but wow. I think Jack was picking up "hints" from ennis .. this scene did not strike me when i saw the film for the first or even second and third time but much later..

what say ??

Welcome Mr haveacrush!  #$#

I say you're very right: Jack started his 'checking out' Ennis when he stepped out of his truck outside Aguirre's office (or even before...). Ennis was checking out Jack too but he wasn't that open about it. Jack could read Ennis like a book..and Ennis knew it. The way Ennis uses the salt shaker is so companionable..he wanted to please Jack so much..."Here you go".

Jack's line "I am pretty good with a can opener, though" says it all.


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Re: jack picking up hints :) !
« Reply #2 on: Sep 05, 2010, 02:33 PM »
hmmm.. so true whenu said jack cud read ennis like a book  <^( ... but why do you think he failed to read him in the most imporant moment - thants when they were parting from brokeback. whatever ennis was saying or not saying meant nothing .. the only thing he wanted was that he wanted eveything to go on as it was going on
jack misread him completely and left !  :_(
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Re: jack picking up hints :) !
« Reply #3 on: Sep 05, 2010, 06:53 PM »
I really don't think Jack misread Ennis in this scene. Ennis want Jack, but he made it very quite clear, no plans to leave with him. Not just through words, also gestures and his bluntness of farewell. Ennis would want, but he can't, not ready for that. Jack warns him perfectly, is desolate.

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« Reply #4 on: Oct 31, 2010, 10:08 AM »
hmmm.. so true whenu said jack cud read ennis like a book  <^( ... but why do you think he failed to read him in the most imporant moment - thants when they were parting from brokeback. whatever ennis was saying or not saying meant nothing .. the only thing he wanted was that he wanted eveything to go on as it was going on
jack misread him completely and left !  :_(

Wow, when I saw this  I just had to delurk myself and comment. it's such an interesting ,great topic, the communications factor surrounding the relationship with Jack and Ennis.  They were both open books from the very beginning , both very easy to read, but only on the surface at first.. but later there were hints, hints, and more hints, the scene you mention in particular...

First I must say that IMHO no one was misreading anyone here. IMO it is clear what was going on between them. From the moment that Jack informed Ennis that they had to "bring them down", Ennis interpreted that as meaning [The summer with Jack was to be cut short, time with Jack was ending as far as he was concerned].He becomes angry at everyone Aguirre, Jack, whoever and whatever was to blame for this robbery and maybe even himself but one thing is for sure Ennis did'nt wanna leave, not just yet. Signs of tension and dissatisfaction with the news was palpable in the air.

Jack offers to loan Ennis money... perhaps hinting at some future contact with his cowboy all the while searching for some words, maybe some sign  from Ennis, perhaps that Ennis did'nt want to loose him forever. He, Jack himself needed to draw out Ennis basd on Ennis's reactions to the news wether in words or actions, it did'nt really matter..  He did'nt have to wait long.

 He studied Ennis as he sat so alone and sad on the hill.Jack got it, Ennis was bothered greatly by the fact that their time together was ending and was prolonging the inevitable, and then... out comes that lasso.
 I still beleive there is at least a bit of symbolism in that gesture, lassoing Ennis in  claiming Ennis as his? Perhaps... Jack had quietly  long made his choice He wanted Ennis, but Ennis was still very contemplative. He had a diffcult choice much too soon to make . How could he ever explain a broken promise of marriage to Alma and his real desire to be with Jack, when he could'nt even explain it to himself? It just was not going to happen That this experience with Jack had changed him? Ennis had his fears and some one had to get hurt. According to his fears, it had to be Jack.

Back in Signal, No one can tell me Ennis did'nt notice the hope and the hurt in Jack's eyes. It was both heart-breaking and painful to watch , both dancing around the real questions and answers that so needed by both to be asked and answered.  Words gone unspoken but definitly hinted at . They both loved each other and I believe both got the hints and the vibes of that fact, if you will but to me personally it was not for lack of want , but a matter of fear. Thanks .





 
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