Topic: Why the tent scene at that very moment?

[merry]

I would like to speak about this particular scene. I knew that there was sex in Brokeback mountain but I didn't expect it to be so sudden. Moreover I didn't expect it to occur at that very moment, about only 30 minutes after the beginning of the movie. I love this choice  and I like the fact that there is violencein it, but it's not that obvious. How do u explain that??

Merry

[AnitaSmith]

I would like to speak about this particular scene. I knew that there was sex in Brokeback mountain but I didn't expect it to be so sudden. Moreover I didn't expect it to occur at that very moment, about only 30 minutes after the beginning of the movie. I love this choice  and I like the fact that there is violencein it, but it's not that obvious. How do u explain that??Merry

My guess is that Jack and Ennis didn't expect it to be so sudden either. 

[tweric]

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My guess is that Jack and Ennis didn't expect it to be so sudden either. 

That is a very good answer!

[tpe]

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My guess is that Jack and Ennis didn't expect it to be so sudden either. 

That is a very good answer!

I second.  It could not happened any other way.  To have slowed down would have been to cast doubts and hesitations in their minds.

[chameau]

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My guess is that Jack and Ennis didn't expect it to be so sudden either. 

That is a very good answer!

I second.  It could not happened any other way.  To have slowed down would have been to cast doubts and hesitations in their minds.

Agree, they were also drunk, very drunk.  This lower inhibitions.

[*Froggy*]

I would like to speak about this particular scene. I knew that there was sex in Brokeback mountain but I didn't expect it to be so sudden. Moreover I didn't expect it to occur at that very moment, about only 30 minutes after the beginning of the movie. I love this choice  and I like the fact that there is violencein it, but it's not that obvious. How do u explain that??

Merry

That's the way Annie Proulx wanted it.

I guess the quicker it happened , the less they could deny it!

[merry]

I would like to speak about this particular scene. I knew that there was sex in Brokeback mountain but I didn't expect it to be so sudden. Moreover I didn't expect it to occur at that very moment, about only 30 minutes after the beginning of the movie. I love this choice  and I like the fact that there is violencein it, but it's not that obvious. How do u explain that??

Merry

That's the way Annie Proulx wanted it.

I guess the quicker it happened , the less they could deny it!

I really thank you for your answer, you may be right. Ennis and Jack let their instinct control them at that moment, there is no place for reflection. They're almost out of control... But Ennis hesitates a bit before acting, doesn't he?

Merry

[Pierre]

I would like to speak about this particular scene. I knew that there was sex in Brokeback mountain but I didn't expect it to be so sudden. Moreover I didn't expect it to occur at that very moment, about only 30 minutes after the beginning of the movie. I love this choice  and I like the fact that there is violencein it, but it's not that obvious. How do u explain that??

Merry

That's the way Annie Proulx wanted it.

I guess the quicker it happened , the less they could deny it!

I really thank you for your answer, you may be right. Ennis and Jack let their instinct control them at that moment, there is no place for reflection. They're almost out of control... But Ennis hesitates a bit before acting, doesn't he?

Merry

Yes hesitates saying "what are you doing" if I remember well. Also there is a very special second, when they get up they could turn out to fight (the only physical relations with others men they had before). Choice between two opposits instincts, the love one winning when they hold each other's head.

[meandennis]

Though the tent scene appeared about 30 minutes into the film, you need to remember that Jack and Ennis had already been working together several weeks which was enough time to develop thier attraction to each other.
Paul

[merry]

Though the tent scene appeared about 30 minutes into the film, you need to remember that Jack and Ennis which was enough time to develop thier attraction to each other.
Paul

I know but what I mean is that we hardly realize that they [had already been working together several weeks] because there is no real progression in their behaviour before the tent scene. Ang Lee doesn't really point out this attraction before sex occurs.

Merry

[gjz24]

First I saw the movie I had the some feeling, Ang should have use more time to build up their relationship. After second time viewing the movie. I changed my mind. I believe Ang doesnot want the viewer be confused about their relationship. the Chemistry between them was instinct love not friendship.

[dirtbiker]

I think the first tent scene was to portray a more animalistic lust for each other, whereas the 2nd tent scene shows that the attraction may be more than just lust alone.

[*Froggy*]

I think the first tent scene was to portray a more animalistic lust for each other, whereas the 2nd tent scene shows that the attraction may be more than just lust alone.

might just be that!

[ethan]

The first and second tents contrast each other. If the first scene was based on their attraction and friendship, there would not have the 2nd tent scene. And probably the 2nd tent scene would not have turned to be very romantic.

It is a realistic portrayal.

[manila_rocks]

Purely a matter of unbridled lust.

[merry]

I think the first tent scene was to portray a more animalistic lust for each other, whereas the 2nd tent scene shows that the attraction may be more than just lust alone.

I totally agree with you!!! Great analysis...

Merry

[jimmypage]

Ang Lee:
"The first time that Ennis and Jack kind of get together in the tent -- for me I wanted it to be a fight, I wanted it to be a battle,
I pretty much wanted Ennis to be on the verge of just beating Jack up, pretty much the whole time I wanted his fist to be in the air,
because violence was pretty much the only form of expression Ennis had allowed himself, the only way he knew how to express himself.
And so the first time that Jack and Ennis confront each other in that sense I wanted it to be somewhat explosive,
when instincts and passions come into play. I wanted (those passions) to kind of blind him and (for) it to be kind of quick, over and done."

I like very very much that scene...I think it's perfect 
the rest of the interview

[brian2006]

Ang Lee:
"The first time that Ennis and Jack kind of get together in the tent -- for me I wanted it to be a fight, I wanted it to be a battle,
I pretty much wanted Ennis to be on the verge of just beating Jack up, pretty much the whole time I wanted his fist to be in the air,
because violence was pretty much the only form of expression Ennis had allowed himself, the only way he knew how to express himself.
And so the first time that Jack and Ennis confront each other in that sense I wanted it to be somewhat explosive,
when instincts and passions come into play. I wanted (those passions) to kind of blind him and (for) it to be kind of quick, over and done."

I like very very much that scene...I think it's perfect 
the rest of the interview

Ang's explaination is eough n perfectly for the relationship between Ennis and Jack...

They dun hav to speak sometimes but the love is growing between them...

[chameau]

Thanks for posting this Jimmypage and thanks for the link

[rane99]

Thanks for posting, I loved the scene.

[sweetlilg]

Ang Lee:
"The first time that Ennis and Jack kind of get together in the tent -- for me I wanted it to be a fight, I wanted it to be a battle,
I pretty much wanted Ennis to be on the verge of just beating Jack up, pretty much the whole time I wanted his fist to be in the air,
because violence was pretty much the only form of expression Ennis had allowed himself, the only way he knew how to express himself.
And so the first time that Jack and Ennis confront each other in that sense I wanted it to be somewhat explosive,
when instincts and passions come into play. I wanted (those passions) to kind of blind him and (for) it to be kind of quick, over and done."

I like very very much that scene...I think it's perfect 
the rest of the interview

Ang's explaination is eough n perfectly for the relationship between Ennis and Jack...

They dun hav to speak sometimes but the love is growing between them...

this is so true! .. i love Ang!

[merry]

Ang Lee:
"The first time that Ennis and Jack kind of get together in the tent -- for me I wanted it to be a fight, I wanted it to be a battle,
I pretty much wanted Ennis to be on the verge of just beating Jack up, pretty much the whole time I wanted his fist to be in the air,
because violence was pretty much the only form of expression Ennis had allowed himself, the only way he knew how to express himself.
And so the first time that Jack and Ennis confront each other in that sense I wanted it to be somewhat explosive,
when instincts and passions come into play. I wanted (those passions) to kind of blind him and (for) it to be kind of quick, over and done."

I like very very much that scene...I think it's perfect 
the rest of the interview

Really good to know, thanks!

Merry