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Offline shakestheground

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Gay Rural Depictions
« on: Jan 31, 2006, 03:45 PM »
I have see a lot of gay films, both American and Non-American, and the only one I can think of that depicts gay people in a non-urban setting has been Deliverance (a what a blessing it was-not) until now. Oprah pointed out in her interview that there was not one swish, not one lisp in the whole movie, and she is right. I think one of the positive points of the film is its depiction of average people caught in an extraordinary situation.

Never did they say they loved each other, not that they had to.
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Offline tpe

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Re: Gay Rural Depictions
« Reply #1 on: Feb 01, 2006, 09:40 AM »
Thanks shakestheground.  Indeed, they never had to say this to each other.  The word 'love is spoken only twice -- in the final scene between Ennis and Alma Jr:

Ennis: This Kurt fella, does he love you?

Alma Jr.: Yes daddy, he loves me.

I will move this thread to 'Your Review & Thought'.

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Re: Gay Rural Depictions
« Reply #2 on: Feb 01, 2006, 11:45 AM »
tpe.  I think it's fascinating that you have counted the number of times the word "love" was spoken.

The movie is so subtle yet profound.  What a masterpiece.

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Re: Gay Rural Depictions
« Reply #3 on: Feb 01, 2006, 11:48 AM »
tpe.  I think it's fascinating that you have counted the number of times the word "love" was spoken.

The movie is so subtle yet profound.  What a masterpiece.

Thanks manila_rocks.  Twice is not too hard to keep track of. ;)

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Re: Gay Rural Depictions
« Reply #4 on: Feb 01, 2006, 11:51 AM »
BBM is truely a masterpiece, simple and elegant and like you said, manila_rocks, subtle yet profound.

tpe's posts are always insightful. Thank you. I think he's got the movie in his head.  :)
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Re: Gay Rural Depictions
« Reply #5 on: Feb 04, 2006, 10:51 AM »
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Thanks shakestheground.  Indeed, they never had to say this to each other.  The word 'love is spoken only twice -- in the final scene between Ennis and Alma Jr:

Ennis: This Kurt fella, does he love you?

Alma Jr.: Yes daddy, he loves me.

I will move this thread to 'Your Review & Thought'.

I love this interaction between Alma Jr. and Ennis. To me, it represents how Ennis is finally letting go some of his.......insecurities maybe, hesitations because he's allowing Alma Jr.'s love to flow into his life. I know this message isn't exchanged directly in their dialogue, but Ennis seems to be getting better, allowing love to be something in his life because he finally realized what it meant when he lost Jack- and he was realizing how important love is with two people, that sometimes nothing else matters, and that's why he's going to Alma's wedding and ok with Alma marrying Kurt.  :'( I love this new Ennis, but its remarkably sad because he only became that way after Jack was gone. *Regret* it stabs me in the heart with this movie.
Like vast clouds of steam from thermal springs in winter the years of things unsaid and now unsayable -- admissions, declarations, shames, guilts, fears -- rose around them. Ennis stood as if heart-shot, face grey and deep-lined, grimacing, eyes screwed shut, fists clenched, legs caving, hit the ground on his knees.