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cara1158

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Why did they not...
« on: Mar 09, 2006, 04:22 PM »
I saw it again last night and, after the reunion in 1967, I thought--why did they not stay together?  I mean, I *know* why, I know the story/Ennis' history, etc.  I understand all that.  But if I put myself in their places, I think:  Okay, after that first summer, it was painful to split up but, hey, we've all had "summer romances" and when summer ends it feels like you're gonna die; but then you go on with life and that summer becomes a fond memory.  But four years later, you hook up again and WHAM! it's soooo hot and so perfect and such a powerful connection.  Wouldn't you think "well, hell, there's way more here than I thought, I'm not letting it go again."  They should have found a ranch somewhere out in the middle of nowhere, claimed they were brothers or cousins or something, some big lie to cover their relationship... Lying="if you can't fix it you gotta stand it"... whatever, ANYthing, so they could remain together. 

I know, I know... if they'd done that we wouldn't have this amazing story and movie and all.  But since we all look at and think about these two guys as if it's "real life" I can't help but think these things. 

I know I'm a different person, living in a different time.  But if it were me, I'd dump it all -- spouse, house, kids, job -- make up whatever lie(s) or excuses I have to -- who cares -- to be with someone THAT special and THAT perfect. 

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Re: Why did they not...
« Reply #1 on: Mar 09, 2006, 06:40 PM »
How I wish, but it was never meant to be.

Ennis is Ennis, and Jack is Jack.  And fear and dark memory intrudes in between...

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Re: Why did they not...
« Reply #2 on: Mar 09, 2006, 06:51 PM »
As tpe said...Ennis is Ennis, Jack is Jack.  Though we have glimpses of their past, we do not really know what brought them to that point.  we know that they loved each other, if only we can all be that lucky.  But, no matter how much we wanted them together, it just wasn't meant to be.
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Re: Why did they not...
« Reply #3 on: Mar 10, 2006, 07:29 AM »
Fear and love are both powerful emotions, and neither is rational.

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Re: Why did they not...
« Reply #4 on: Mar 10, 2006, 08:47 PM »

Hi cara,
Why didn't they stay together in 1967?

The main reason they didn't do that was because Ennis COULDN'T do that. Jack could have. Jack would have.

1. Ennis had a wife and two young daughters
2. Ennis has major homophobic trauma from his youth, scarring, and that idea just was not something he was capable of.
3. Ennis IS a man of honor. He married Alma and fathered children and his character has a sense of honor and duty which requires him to stay with Alma and the children. Of course later on..he's life weary and so forth and so does get divorced, but still pays his child support.

You recall Jack asks him in the motel.....what are we gonna do now......Don't reckon there's anything we can do...I'm stuck here. And then at camp after that.......get a little cow and calf operation..sweetlife.  I told you that's not gonna happen, I got me a life.........etc.

So clearly, Jack wanted and would have. Ennis wouldn't and couldn't have.

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Re: Why did they not...
« Reply #5 on: Mar 23, 2006, 09:03 PM »
Ennis is a man of honor.  If Alma hadn't divorced him, I don't think he would have divorced her.   He wants to be there for his family.  His family was not there for him.

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Re: Why did they not...
« Reply #6 on: Mar 23, 2006, 09:08 PM »
Similar to others' posts,

In Ennis's mind - "two guys living together, no way"

This topic should be of interest to you.

http://www.ennisjack.com/index.php?topic=535.0
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