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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3480 on: Jun 06, 2008, 09:32 AM »
 :ghug: Matt. It was classy of her to keep quiet, and no less than he deserves. In the end, the rumors and petty questions will be left behind and the memory of who he was and how he touched people is what will remain.
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3481 on: Jun 06, 2008, 09:33 AM »
Quote from: FlwrChild on Jun 06, 2008, 09:32 AM
:ghug: Matt. It was classy of her to keep quiet, and no less than he deserves. In the end, the rumors and petty questions will be left behind and the memory of who he was and how he touched people is what will remain.
yes very true :)
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3482 on: Jun 06, 2008, 10:08 AM »
You're not the only one who feels bad today because of Heath,Matt...I'm a little upset and sad,because I've dreamed in him;although I'm not the only one nor the first time in my case...The difference is that this time has been so living,so real that I've awaken half happy and half sad,even worried.It's not usual,but I remember every gesture and word as if it had been a movie or a novel.Perhaps it has been a kind of obsession because yesterday Keren,Michelle,Barb,some other Brokies and me spoke about the feelings we have still for Heath,I don't know indeed...
I was in a kind of BBM when I found the two of them,but only Ennis/Heath seemed real,speaking and speaking;Jack/Jake was as a cardboard figure,immovable and silent.Both of them were wearing their clothes of cowboys in the movie.Suddenly,Heath saw me and remained silent also,looking at me,whereas everything that surrounded us dissapeared,including Jack...He was then wearing a black jacket and trousers with a brown and red striped sweater-yes,I remember everything,as I've said¡-and his hair was rather short but with these "so Ennis style" curls.
He told me "Hello¡" as if he knew me,and I asked him what had happenned this January 22nd,what had passed on his mind...He answered me:-"I didn't want to die,although I wasn't happy either;my days were fairly emptier than you can imagine and my nights were a torture.But I don't know still what happenned...".I told him that we miss him a lot,and he said then(and this is what worries me the most):-"Do you want to be with me?".-"Yes,I'd be with you and,moreover, I'd see my mother then-I said-;but I can' leave my family alone".He remained silent again for a while and answered:-"Of course,it's not your time still...".He kissed me in the cheek and told me goodbye,and in that moment I woke up feeling very anguished and almost crying.
I know this seems like a movie,but I repeat that NEVER had occurred such a thing to me with a so living and real dream,I find it very strange;yes,I suppose all of us can remember some dream,or parts of a dream,even when we dreamed it some years ago,the same than the most of times we can' t remember anything.But it doesn't happen very often that you remember every word as if you were reading a paper.And his asking me for being with him,what does this mean?.After that,I've seen by chance a tribute web and I've almost broken down for him.Sorry for being so boring... :)
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3483 on: Jun 06, 2008, 12:11 PM »
      Dear Ali, what a beautiful dream, in its own way.  I found it amazing that you asked him, directly, just what you wanted to know, and the answers seemed very calm and clear, from him.  Of course it must have been hurtful, how the dream ended, but you had the only answer you could give.  Of all the dreams people have reported, this one was, so far, the most powerful, in what was said.  Don't be sad.  Dreams serve a purpose, although no one knows the exact answer, there.  Thanks for telling us all, and I hope you feel stronger for having had this experience.  With love, Tony.
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3484 on: Jun 06, 2008, 12:30 PM »
Quote from: Tony on Jun 06, 2008, 12:11 PM
      Dear Ali, what a beautiful dream, in its own way.  I found it amazing that you asked him, directly, just what you wanted to know, and the answers seemed very calm and clear, from him.  Of course it must have been hurtful, how the dream ended, but you had the only answer you could give.  Of all the dreams people have reported, this one was, so far, the most powerful, in what was said.  Don't be sad.  Dreams serve a purpose, although no one knows the exact answer, there.  Thanks for telling us all, and I hope you feel stronger for having had this experience.  With love, Tony.

Yes,Tony,I feel stronger because it's as if he had wanted to give an answer somehow.I felt worried because I couldn' t,and I can' t,understand why he wanted me to be with him where he's now...As you say,dreams serve for something,even can show us a way,even if not always we're able to find it.Thank you so much for your words,dear. :^^)
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Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3485 on: Jun 06, 2008, 12:41 PM »
 :ghug: mpj, and thank you for sharing that with us.

I was wondering, based on what he actually said, do you think he meant that he wanted you to be with him, or that he was asking you if you wanted that? I sort of read it as his asking if you would want that, so that you could see why that's not where you belong, and he could reaffirm that by saying it's not your time. You know, sort of a reminder that we all have our time to live out, we all have our lives to lead, and the things we're meant to do in that time, and each one's time comes when it is supposed to, even if it means that we have to miss our loved ones and wait a long time to be with them again.


I would focus on the fact that he answered your question, he helped you see what you need to do, and he gave you that sweet kiss, and take comfort from that. ^f^

I don't know if that helps at all. It's just the way that I interpreted what you told us.
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3486 on: Jun 06, 2008, 12:44 PM »
I also look at it as his attempt to give you a little closure, to answer some still nagging questions, and reassure you that he's in a good place. Again, it's just the feeling that I got reading it. It really is quite a beautiful dream. :)
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3487 on: Jun 06, 2008, 12:59 PM »
  Dear FlowerChild - thanks for a powerful and positive take on MPJ's dream, and you DO have that ability to see the good that was really  meant.  Myself, am going out on a limb and am going to look like a fool.  There was something unusual to that dream - the language used.  The words used by him in that dream were natural to him, and not to her and that made me sit up and take notice.  People have their own style of speaking, and I've read much said by Heath and have read many of Ali's posts.  His words weren't her style.  She doesn't talk like that.  Makes me wonder what is and isn't possible in these lives we are given.  But you were right in seeing some guidance and healing there.  We could all use more of that.
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3488 on: Jun 06, 2008, 02:33 PM »
Ya don't look like a fool to me. I hadn't even thought about the style of language, etc but who's to say how much of our dreams come from our own minds and how much comes from somewhere else? I heard a sermon recently about signposts and how we read them in our lives. I wouldn't rule anything out either. :)


And just to go out on my own limb (might as well join you out there :)), I was just saying to someone yesterday, with all these posts that were coming in on top of one another, isn't it something that we're all in the same place today, like he reached out to touch our hearts and we all felt it at the same time?

Who knows? But I'm awfully happy to be able to come here to share my thoughts and feelings and hear about yours. What a wonderful family. ^f^
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3489 on: Jun 06, 2008, 03:58 PM »
Quote from: FlwrChild on Jun 06, 2008, 12:41 PM
:ghug: mpj, and thank you for sharing that with us.

I was wondering, based on what he actually said, do you think he meant that he wanted you to be with him, or that he was asking you if you wanted that? I sort of read it as his asking if you would want that, so that you could see why that's not where you belong, and he could reaffirm that by saying it's not your time. You know, sort of a reminder that we all have our time to live out, we all have our lives to lead, and the things we're meant to do in that time, and each one's time comes when it is supposed to, even if it means that we have to miss our loved ones and wait a long time to be with them again.
I would focus on the fact that he answered your question, he helped you see what you need to do, and he gave you that sweet kiss, and take comfort from that. ^f^
I don't know if that helps at all. It's just the way that I interpreted what you told us.

 :t) Barb;you can be sure that your interpretation has helped a lot.Yes,he didn't mean he wanted me to be near him,as a proof of my love for him;but if I wanted it,as a proof of my love for my family and friends and all the people I'd leave behind.You have said it very well; it's a sort of a reminder that we only are able to live our own lives knowing how brief it is,taking avantage of all the good moments it can offer to us.And I begin to guess why he told me this...
What disturbs me is the dream's realism,how I could see Heath as if he was a real person,and even I could feel his kiss on my cheek...I have been crying several times today remembering it and I'm afraid I'm falling in this breakdown almost everybody fall into rather time after a beloved person's loss,when one believes everything is already under control.Well,this will pass sooner or later;the important is that I must thank you,Barb and Tony,for your support. %)
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Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
("If I asked")
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3490 on: Jun 06, 2008, 06:23 PM »
Quote from: myprivatejack on Jun 06, 2008, 10:08 AM
You're not the only one who feels bad today because of Heath,Matt...I'm a little upset and sad,because I've dreamed in him;although I'm not the only one nor the first time in my case...The difference is that this time has been so living,so real that I've awaken half happy and half sad,even worried.It's not usual,but I remember every gesture and word as if it had been a movie or a novel.Perhaps it has been a kind of obsession because yesterday Keren,Michelle,Barb,some other Brokies and me spoke about the feelings we have still for Heath,I don't know indeed...
I was in a kind of BBM when I found the two of them,but only Ennis/Heath seemed real,speaking and speaking;Jack/Jake was as a cardboard figure,immovable and silent.Both of them were wearing their clothes of cowboys in the movie.Suddenly,Heath saw me and remained silent also,looking at me,whereas everything that surrounded us dissapeared,including Jack...He was then wearing a black jacket and trousers with a brown and red striped sweater-yes,I remember everything,as I've said¡-and his hair was rather short but with these "so Ennis style" curls.
He told me "Hello¡" as if he knew me,and I asked him what had happenned this January 22nd,what had passed on his mind...He answered me:-"I didn't want to die,although I wasn't happy either;my days were fairly emptier than you can imagine and my nights were a torture.But I don't know still what happenned...".I told him that we miss him a lot,and he said then(and this is what worries me the most):-"Do you want to be with me?".-"Yes,I'd be with you and,moreover, I'd see my mother then-I said-;but I can' leave my family alone".He remained silent again for a while and answered:-"Of course,it's not your time still...".He kissed me in the cheek and told me goodbye,and in that moment I woke up feeling very anguished and almost crying.
I know this seems like a movie,but I repeat that NEVER had occurred such a thing to me with a so living and real dream,I find it very strange;yes,I suppose all of us can remember some dream,or parts of a dream,even when we dreamed it some years ago,the same than the most of times we can' t remember anything.But it doesn't happen very often that you remember every word as if you were reading a paper.And his asking me for being with him,what does this mean?.After that,I've seen by chance a tribute web and I've almost broken down for him.Sorry for being so boring... :)


Thank you for sharing your experience .. :ghug:
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Miss you Heath, till next time xx

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3491 on: Jun 08, 2008, 02:03 PM »
MPJ  I think Barb is right in her interpretation. I have not had such vivid dreams like yours.  I have had impressions about those on the otherside.   Not so much Heath but I think he has visited me in dreams.  I just may not be able to remember them.

I think that Heath was going through a very rough time in his life. His split from Michelle, not seeing Matilda. Working so hard and also getting sick while filming Imaginarium all contributed to his state of mind (being down)  but he was also planning ahead.   He was passionate about chess and just like the way he played chess he planned several moves ahead in his personal life.   He was planning on directing as his next step up (Queen's Gambit)  he had people he had made plans with to see.   So while he had his down moments he was doing what alot of people do when they feel down  they make plans, keep active.   The whole thing was just an accident and I think what you see in your dream was him coming to terms with what happened and wanting you to know it wasn't your time yet.   

I bet he'll keep visiting you now and then.

I think he wants us to remember him but to go on with our lives.  And that we'll see him one day when it's our time

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3492 on: Jun 08, 2008, 02:08 PM »
Quote from: trekfan on Jun 08, 2008, 02:03 PM

I think he wants us to remember him but to go on with our lives.  And that we'll see him one day when it's our time

that was beautiful <^( :\'(
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3493 on: Jun 08, 2008, 03:00 PM »
Yes,Linda,you've said it very well with your beautiful words:we must carry on,but remembering him,and knowing that some day will arrive when we'll see him again with our eyes,not only our minds... :ghug:
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Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
("If I asked")
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3494 on: Jun 08, 2008, 03:04 PM »
Quote from: myprivatejack on Jun 06, 2008, 10:08 AM
You're not the only one who feels bad today because of Heath,Matt...I'm a little upset and sad,because I've dreamed in him;although I'm not the only one nor the first time in my case...The difference is that this time has been so living,so real that I've awaken half happy and half sad,even worried.It's not usual,but I remember every gesture and word as if it had been a movie or a novel.Perhaps it has been a kind of obsession because yesterday Keren,Michelle,Barb,some other Brokies and me spoke about the feelings we have still for Heath,I don't know indeed...
I was in a kind of BBM when I found the two of them,but only Ennis/Heath seemed real,speaking and speaking;Jack/Jake was as a cardboard figure,immovable and silent.Both of them were wearing their clothes of cowboys in the movie.Suddenly,Heath saw me and remained silent also,looking at me,whereas everything that surrounded us dissapeared,including Jack...He was then wearing a black jacket and trousers with a brown and red striped sweater-yes,I remember everything,as I've said¡-and his hair was rather short but with these "so Ennis style" curls.
He told me "Hello¡" as if he knew me,and I asked him what had happenned this January 22nd,what had passed on his mind...He answered me:-"I didn't want to die,although I wasn't happy either;my days were fairly emptier than you can imagine and my nights were a torture.But I don't know still what happenned...".I told him that we miss him a lot,and he said then(and this is what worries me the most):-"Do you want to be with me?".-"Yes,I'd be with you and,moreover, I'd see my mother then-I said-;but I can' leave my family alone".He remained silent again for a while and answered:-"Of course,it's not your time still...".He kissed me in the cheek and told me goodbye,and in that moment I woke up feeling very anguished and almost crying.
I know this seems like a movie,but I repeat that NEVER had occurred such a thing to me with a so living and real dream,I find it very strange;yes,I suppose all of us can remember some dream,or parts of a dream,even when we dreamed it some years ago,the same than the most of times we can' t remember anything.But it doesn't happen very often that you remember every word as if you were reading a paper.And his asking me for being with him,what does this mean?.After that,I've seen by chance a tribute web and I've almost broken down for him.Sorry for being so boring... :)


 ::)  that's a very strange dream my dear, very "significant", indeed, it's not yet time for you to join him in heaven  %(
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3495 on: Jun 08, 2008, 03:07 PM »
Quote from: Emzan on Jun 08, 2008, 02:08 PM
that was beautiful <^( :\'(

 #)  well said trekfan  ^f^
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3496 on: Jun 10, 2008, 05:16 AM »
Quote from: myprivatejack on Jun 08, 2008, 03:00 PM
Yes,Linda,you've said it very well with your beautiful words:we must carry on,but remembering him,and knowing that some day will arrive when we'll see him again with our eyes,not only our minds... :ghug:

Beautiful words from yourself and trekfan  <^( :ghug:
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3497 on: Jun 10, 2008, 05:22 AM »
Quote from: Hayley on Jun 10, 2008, 05:16 AM
Beautiful words from yourself and trekfan  <^( :ghug:

Thank you so much,Hayley. :ghug: At least,they're words aid with the heart,and these are always beautiful...
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Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3498 on: Jun 10, 2008, 06:23 AM »
I find this thread and some of the views expressed increasingly worrying. It may be legitimate to mourn the loss of perceived potential but beyond that I think one should not go.
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3499 on: Jun 10, 2008, 08:18 AM »
Quote from: welshwitch on Jun 10, 2008, 06:23 AM
I find this thread and some of the views expressed increasingly worrying. It may be legitimate to mourn the loss of perceived potential but beyond that I think one should not go.

I find it legitimate to mourn, period.
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3500 on: Jun 10, 2008, 08:27 AM »
Quote from: keren_b on Jun 10, 2008, 08:18 AM
I find it legitimate to mourn, period.
i fully agree.!
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3501 on: Jun 10, 2008, 08:38 AM »
Quote from: welshwitch on Jun 10, 2008, 06:23 AM
I find this thread and some of the views expressed increasingly worrying. It may be legitimate to mourn the loss of perceived potential but beyond that I think one should not go.

Well,in my particular case-I suppose I'm one of the formerly alluded,because my posts expressed...anything worrying?-,I can say that I keep on living my life,with my other problems and griefs,and also my happiness.But,for me,this is not an obstacle to mourn the loss of somebody who meant something for me;even if I've dreamed about him,-maybe don't we dream about anything or anybody who has marked us for good or for bad?-this isn't an obsession,but a normal reaction.I don't think I'm crazy precisely for this reason;but,if so,I prefer to be crazy for having good feelings,than crazy for being a wicked person,who never cries,never mourns,never feels...I'm sorry for being so sick,however...
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Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
("If I asked")
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3502 on: Jun 10, 2008, 08:42 AM »
Quote from: myprivatejack on Jun 10, 2008, 08:38 AM
Well,in my particular case-I suppose I'm one of the formerly alluded,because my posts expressed...anything worrying?-,I can say that I keep on living my life,with my other problems and griefs,and also my happiness.But,for me,this is not an obstacle to mourn the loss of somebody who meant something for me;even if I've dreamed about him,-maybe don't we dream about anything or anybody who has marked us for good or for bad?-this isn't an obsession,but a normal reaction.I don't think I'm crazy precisely for this reason;but,if so,I prefer to be crazy for having good feelings,than crazy for being a wicked person,who never cries,never mourns,never feels...I'm sorry for being so sick,however...

well said Ali, i think just plain morning the loss of "potential" is like feelign bad about a low grade on an exam... heath was a person not an object...
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3503 on: Jun 10, 2008, 08:43 AM »
Quote from: myprivatejack on Jun 10, 2008, 08:38 AM
Well,in my particular case-I suppose I'm one of the formerly alluded,because my posts expressed...anything worrying?-,I can say that I keep on living my life,with my other problems and griefs,and also my happiness.But,for me,this is not an obstacle to mourn the loss of somebody who meant something for me;even if I've dreamed about him,-maybe don't we dream about anything or anybody who has marked us for good or for bad?-this isn't an obsession,but a normal reaction.I don't think I'm crazy precisely for this reason;but,if so,I prefer to be crazy for having good feelings,than crazy for being a wicked person,who never cries,never mourns,never feels...I'm sorry for being so sick,however...

well said. I agree with you 100%

even if we didnt know him, we were just fans, we still feel bad because he's gone and we have to mourn, I dont think its healthy to keep it all inside...
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3504 on: Jun 10, 2008, 08:48 AM »
Quote from: keren_b on Jun 10, 2008, 08:18 AM
I find it legitimate to mourn, period.

I agree Keren.
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3505 on: Jun 10, 2008, 09:07 AM »
Quote from: christie wood on Jun 10, 2008, 08:48 AM
I agree Keren.

I agree with this and every post about this subject. 

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3506 on: Jun 10, 2008, 09:28 AM »
Since this is the "In Loving Memory" thread, we should keep the memories "Loving"
We are all different people who mourn in their own way.
We can't say how people should cope with their feelings, so it's nobodies business but theirs.
The best thing we can do is support each other in our feelings and be there for each other.
And I for one, am very happy to have such supporting people with me.
Whether they dream, write down their thoughts or just want to remember him, we should respect their feelings.

So Heath baby, this one is for you, because I want to remember you with a smile!!



your smile can light my life
your smile can make it happy
so smile.
your smile
your smile can turn me up side down
your smile can get me back
so smile.
your smile gives me the strength
your smile makes me forget my weakness
so smile.
your smile is the fountain of felicity
your smile is full of so much cheer
i would love to be under that the fountain
for ever
so smile.




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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3507 on: Jun 10, 2008, 09:29 AM »
great post marj  :ghug: :ghug:
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3508 on: Jun 10, 2008, 09:31 AM »
Marj, that's really beautiful.   ^f^

Beautiful words and a beautiful picture.... :^^)
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3509 on: Jun 10, 2008, 09:38 AM »
Quote from: welshwitch on Jun 10, 2008, 06:23 AM
I find this thread and some of the views expressed increasingly worrying. It may be legitimate to mourn the loss of perceived potential but beyond that I think one should not go.
   Hmmm.....this is probably the most difficult post I have ever made on this forum, as the subject matter is primed for misunderstanding each other.  First, though, I would say welshwitch would not single out anyone nor mock anyone, so, Ali, I am reasonably certain nothing she said was aimed at you.
   If she ever wanted to be critical, she could well be of me, as in a PM to her (the only time I ever wrote her), I said, off-forum, I feared over-romanticizing Heath when I felt I would do better to remember and grieve him as a normal human being.  And then I went into 3 months of the opposite.
  The key words in her post are "increasingly worrying" and I have no right to define what she meant, but I read it as worrying that we might be tilting somewhat to not healing, and if that is correct, there was no criticism but a genuine concern drawn from her own good will and hopes for less hurt.
  I happen to disagree with her, though. When other forums shut down their memorial threads, I saw an immediate upsurge in the number of guests logging in here.  It varies from person to person, but a very great many need to bleed, need to mourn, and need to do that openly, and with the support of others.  I would much prefer to seem too slow in mending our hearts, then for one person to feel totally isolated because they could not keep up with the progress of others in the aftermath of the utter insanity of losing Heath Ledger.
  But she spoke her mind and I would ask, at the very least, that nothing be read into her post that really isn't there.  I have grieved the loss of loved ones for decades and had people say they worried for me.  I never took that as meaning they condemned me.  They meant well.  And I never took it the wrong way.  They proved to be the truest friends.
  Sorry if I've failed to express myself as I would want.  This is an area prone to misunderstanding.
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