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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3900 on: Jul 24, 2008, 08:01 AM »
I wasn't going to try and put thoughts into words today - it seemed too difficult to find words among the loss I have felt.  But when I saw the tribute Chameau posted, the candles surrounding Heath on his horse, riding away, I admit I cried.   I am 71 years old and this is the first time in  my life I have been so touched by the loss of someone I never met in person.  But I did meet him on the silver screen, the symbol of his craft.  What he left us in Brokeback Mountain was a picture of a tormented, lonely person who wanted to love and be loved, and both didn't know how and was afraid to.  In the role of Ennis del Mar Heath left us a legacy, that of a young actor committed to his craft as no one else I have seen in years.  He was singularly able to reach out and touch the hearts of so many people so deeply that he will never by forgotten. The admiration, devotion and respect felt by so many is indeed a tribute to his memory, both as an artist and as a person.  As time passes our tears may lessen, but there will always be a sadness in our hearts for his having been taken before his time, and our thoughts of what might have been.  Rest in  peace, Heath. ^f^

rlh, you are 71 years olf and a great sensibility, I am 63 and I agree with you : It is also the first time I am so touched by the loss of someone I never met in person  :ghug:
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3901 on: Jul 24, 2008, 08:41 AM »
The posts here move me so much. I think Heath would've been proud if he'd seen the sensitivity of his fans, and all the love and the respect that they express here.
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« Reply #3902 on: Jul 24, 2008, 08:46 AM »
I think so too Keren. :ghug:
For a moment in our lives. Forever in our hearts.

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3903 on: Jul 24, 2008, 01:10 PM »
That's right, Keren.  :ghug:  :ghug:

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3904 on: Jul 24, 2008, 02:09 PM »
The posts here move me so much. I think Heath would've been proud if he'd seen the sensitivity of his fans, and all the love and the respect that they express here.

I agree with you,Keren.But there's a difference IMO; Heath wouldn't have been proud.He's proud wherever he's now. :\'(
Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3905 on: Jul 24, 2008, 02:39 PM »


"...You've captured my love
Stolen my heart
Changed my life
Every time you make a move
You destroy my mind
And the way you touch
I lose control and shiver deep inside
You take my breath away...

...So please don't go
Don't leave me here all by myself
I get ever so lonely from time to time
I will find you
Anywhere you go, I'll be right behind you
Right until the ends of the earth
I'll get no sleep till I find you to tell you
That you just take my breath away"


(You Take My Breath Away - Queen)

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3906 on: Jul 24, 2008, 02:51 PM »
Oh, Keren that is absolutely heart wrecking....and beautiful in the same time.    :ghug:   :\'(
"What Jack remembered and craved in a way he could neither help nor understand was the time that distant summer on Brokeback when Ennis had come up behind him and pulled him close,the silent embrace satisfying some shared and sexless hunger."
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« Reply #3907 on: Jul 24, 2008, 02:52 PM »
Beautiful Keren. The picture and the song.  :ghug:
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3908 on: Jul 24, 2008, 05:10 PM »
Beautiful Keren. The picture and the song.  :ghug:

I QUOTE THIS¡  :ghug:  :^^) 
Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3909 on: Jul 24, 2008, 09:53 PM »
Thank you for your comment.  One of the things proved to me now is that Heath's appeal is universal to the range of ages, this appeal being one of his gifts.  His intellectual mastery beneath the portrayal of Ennis, from one of such a young age, has helped make him a man for all ages.  Even tho he is physically gone from us, he achieved film immortality along the way and is going to be present in our hearts and remembered and talked about for a very, very long time. Great art makes you feel something  -  and Heath, that you did! :\'( O0

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3910 on: Jul 25, 2008, 08:19 AM »
Thank you for your comment.  One of the things proved to me now is that Heath's appeal is universal to the range of ages, this appeal being one of his gifts.  His intellectual mastery beneath the portrayal of Ennis, from one of such a young age, has helped make him a man for all ages.  Even tho he is physically gone from us, he achieved film immortality along the way and is going to be present in our hearts and remembered and talked about for a very, very long time. Great art makes you feel something  -  and Heath, that you did! :\'( O0

I am not surprised that Heath has touched so many hearts within such a wide range of ages, considering the man he was. Heath's family described him as an "old soul in a young body", as a man wise beyond his years. And that "old man river" tottoo that Michelle wrote on his arm was there for a reason. He was way more than just a young Hollywood heartthrob, he had such amazing depth and perception. Not any young actor would've had such an effect on so many people, but Heath has touched so many hearts.
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3911 on: Jul 25, 2008, 09:09 AM »
I am not surprised that Heath has touched so many hearts within such a wide range of ages, considering the man he was. Heath's family described him as an "old soul in a young body", as a man wise beyond his years. And that "old man river" tottoo that Michelle wrote on his arm was there for a reason. He was way more than just a young Hollywood heartthrob, he had such amazing depth and perception. Not any young actor would've had such an effect on so many people, but Heath has touched so many hearts.

I completely agree with you,Keren. O0 And,letting aside all this,we mustn't forget that Heath was essentially a good and skilled man;with enough tenderness,talent and love to everything what surrounded as to be loved also for any sensitive person,no matter their age.
Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3912 on: Jul 25, 2008, 09:23 AM »
Keren - just 7 words - 'an old soul in a young body' speak volumes for the Heath we saw and remember, and how he could display his craft as he did.  Another insight into why he was able to touch us so deeply.  Thank. :t)

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3913 on: Jul 25, 2008, 10:23 AM »
Thank you for your comment.  One of the things proved to me now is that Heath's appeal is universal to the range of ages, this appeal being one of his gifts.  His intellectual mastery beneath the portrayal of Ennis, from one of such a young age, has helped make him a man for all ages.  Even tho he is physically gone from us, he achieved film immortality along the way and is going to be present in our hearts and remembered and talked about for a very, very long time. Great art makes you feel something  -  and Heath, that you did! :\'( O0

Hello! rlh03, I have received your e-mail on "outlook express" ; thank you.  I agree with you about your post  ^f^
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3914 on: Jul 25, 2008, 10:28 AM »


"...You've captured my love
Stolen my heart
Changed my life
Every time you make a move
You destroy my mind
And the way you touch
I lose control and shiver deep inside
You take my breath away...

...So please don't go
Don't leave me here all by myself
I get ever so lonely from time to time
I will find you
Anywhere you go, I'll be right behind you
Right until the ends of the earth
I'll get no sleep till I find you to tell you
That you just take my breath away"


(You Take My Breath Away - Queen)



 O0 Beautiful pic and wonderful song  ^f^
It could be like this, always like this....
Sometimes I miss you so much, I can't understand it.

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3915 on: Jul 25, 2008, 12:03 PM »
The posts here move me so much. I think Heath would've been proud if he'd seen the sensitivity of his fans, and all the love and the respect that they express here.

I agree Keren, but secretly, because Heath, being his modest self, was always uncomfortable when people complemented him or praised his work.

But I'm with myprivatejack. I like to think that he's dealt with that now & is proud and touched by it all now, where ever he is  <^(
When you read about somebody special
who has met an untimely end
although you didn't even know them personally
feels like you've lost a friend

Miss you Heath, till next time xx

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3916 on: Jul 26, 2008, 12:18 AM »
Thank you for your comment.  One of the things proved to me now is that Heath's appeal is universal to the range of ages, this appeal being one of his gifts.  His intellectual mastery beneath the portrayal of Ennis, from one of such a young age, has helped make him a man for all ages.  Even tho he is physically gone from us, he achieved film immortality along the way and is going to be present in our hearts and remembered and talked about for a very, very long time. Great art makes you feel something  -  and Heath, that you did! :\'( O0

Rlh03, your words here are more precious than any Academy Awards. Great art makes you feel something ...  :\'( :ghug: :^^) <^(
Heath, you are loved, like this, always.

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3917 on: Jul 27, 2008, 12:00 PM »
I don't know what happened today, darling, maybe it's the joker and the promotion everywhere but I was watching your photos and videos and then I started uncontrollably crying. I can't believe you are gone, love. You were so beautiful and sweet. Everytime I see your gentle brown beautiful eyes I am captured in pain. You touch my inner being anytime I see your photos or hear your voice. I cannot watch your movies since then. I haven't. I don't know if I am ever gonna be able. Brokeback would definitely kill me. Such a pain that movie brings and the thing you are dead it would be too much to handle.

I wanna tell you that I love you. I love you very much with all my heart. I can't stop crying beloved, it is so unfair you are gone and . . . what comes to my mind? Why you and not someone else? I shouldn't be thinking like that but I can't help myself.

I know you must be somewhere, in other dimension, I believe you didn't leave. I hope this place is something nice and pri´vate where you are not inruded by the Hollywood frenzy. I love you. I am so happy I had discovered you for myself before you passed away.


I love you, truly from my heart. N.

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« Reply #3918 on: Jul 27, 2008, 12:40 PM »
OMG...  :\'( :\'( :\'( :\'( :\'( :\'(


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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3919 on: Jul 27, 2008, 01:51 PM »
 :ghug: Tammy  :ghug: Nikita  :ghug:

 :ghug: everyone  :ghug:
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« Reply #3920 on: Jul 27, 2008, 03:53 PM »
I am so happy I had discovered you for myself before you passed away.

I love you, truly from my heart. N.


Your whole post was beautiful Nikita, especially this. And isn't that the way it happens? Some days it just hits harder than others. :ghug:  :ghug:
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3921 on: Jul 28, 2008, 05:59 AM »

Your whole post was beautiful Nikita, especially this. And isn't that the way it happens? Some days it just hits harder than others. :ghug:  :ghug:

Yes it does.

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3922 on: Jul 28, 2008, 09:34 AM »
Nikita, :^^) :ghug:
You can be easy,because I'm absolutely sure Heath is now in another dimension or another world;it's not important its name,but it's much more beautiful than here for him...A friend of mine told me this when my mother passed away to relieve me;when I asked her if she really believed so,she answered me:-Yes,I believe it; it must be true.If not,nothing worth anything for human being".So,it must be true; if not,Heath's life and death hadn't worth anything.And it has,and very much. ^f^
Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3923 on: Jul 28, 2008, 11:58 AM »
  As time goes on, am having fewer bad Heath days.  They are now fairly rare, but I have one today and am not sure if this belongs in this thread or the other one.
  Am kind of angry, as it sinks in that, in his last few years, Heath was accumulating....enemies. It's been lightly mentioned in this forum, the obvious ones, particularly the weird religious cult churches that made the early formal memorial services, and even the funeral arrangements in Perth, a nightmare as far as security. 
  But there's been more that's come out, over the months.  Heath had been speaking up against Australian involvement in the war in Iraq.  He also was wild for the Sea Shepherd's group and was planning to do a documentary film on them.  That hardly sat well with the U.S. government, since the FBI had asked congress to define them as an eco-terrorist outlaw organization.
 And then there was his emerging opposition to the huge construction  project in Brooklyn, which has been described as the biggest development project in any city, ever.  Big money.
  He was, then, becoming more of an activist, towards the end, and you can't do that without rattling the cages of powerful people.  So, am a little angry.  And I wonder... was that a smirk I saw on the police commissioner of N.Y.'s face as he held news conferences?
  I don't know what we owe to Heath, these months later.  Loyalty means different things to different people.  I feel uneasy bringing these matters up.
And am not pursuing them.  But, to me, loyalty means not forgetting what was important to him and also remembering there were those who did not like where he was headed.  If that puts me in the doggie-house, well, it won't be the first time.  Saying he was a good guy is so easy to do.  Saying why he was a good guy, that he had a conscience, may not be to the liking of some.

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3924 on: Jul 28, 2008, 12:01 PM »
  weird religious cult churches that made the early formal memorial services, and even the funeral arrangements in Perth,
the westbourough baptist church...i was devistated when i found out what they had done... i hate them

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3925 on: Jul 28, 2008, 01:31 PM »
  As time goes on, am having fewer bad Heath days.  They are now fairly rare, but I have one today and am not sure if this belongs in this thread or the other one.
  Am kind of angry, as it sinks in that, in his last few years, Heath was accumulating....enemies. It's been lightly mentioned in this forum, the obvious ones, particularly the weird religious cult churches that made the early formal memorial services, and even the funeral arrangements in Perth, a nightmare as far as security. 
  But there's been more that's come out, over the months.  Heath had been speaking up against Australian involvement in the war in Iraq.  He also was wild for the Sea Shepherd's group and was planning to do a documentary film on them.  That hardly sat well with the U.S. government, since the FBI had asked congress to define them as an eco-terrorist outlaw organization.
 And then there was his emerging opposition to the huge construction  project in Brooklyn, which has been described as the biggest development project in any city, ever.  Big money.
  He was, then, becoming more of an activist, towards the end, and you can't do that without rattling the cages of powerful people.  So, am a little angry.  And I wonder... was that a smirk I saw on the police commissioner of N.Y.'s face as he held news conferences?
  I don't know what we owe to Heath, these months later.  Loyalty means different things to different people.  I feel uneasy bringing these matters up.
And am not pursuing them.  But, to me, loyalty means not forgetting what was important to him and also remembering there were those who did not like where he was headed.  If that puts me in the doggie-house, well, it won't be the first time.  Saying he was a good guy is so easy to do.  Saying why he was a good guy, that he had a conscience, may not be to the liking of some.

Tony, let me start by saying that I'm glad to hear you have fewer bad Heath days. I think we all want that, don't we? To remember him with a smile, not with sadness... which is not always that easy, but we all want to get there eventually, and I believe Heath would've wanted that too.

I have a lot of appreciation for people who voice their opinions and fight for what they believe, even if other people might not approve of that. Naturally, I mainly appreciate that when they fight for the same things that I believe in... ;D There is a song by Mama Cass, called "Make Your Own Kind Of Music", that I love very much. The chorus goes like this:

"You've gotta make your own kind of music
Sing your own special song
Make your own kind of music
Even if nobody else sings along".

I believe that Heath was the kind of person who made his own kind of music, whether other people liked it or not, and a part of it was becoming more of an activist and voicing his opinions out loud. When you do that you risk making enemies... or maybe enemies is a strong word in this case, I would say opponents. I'm sure not everyone liked what he had to say (yes, I remember that interview when he made his opinion about the war in Iraq very known and clear) but isn't that the way of the world? We can't all have the same opinions and when you voice out your beliefs, not everyone's going to like them. Don't let that get to you. But you're right, Heath was a man with a conscience, and I appreciate that about him.
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3926 on: Jul 28, 2008, 02:54 PM »

I have a lot of appreciation for people who voice their opinions and fight for what they believe, even if other people might not approve of that. Naturally, I mainly appreciate that when they fight for the same things that I believe in...

I believe that Heath was the kind of person who made his own kind of music, whether other people liked it or not, and a part of it was becoming more of an activist and voicing his opinions out loud. When you do that you risk making enemies... or maybe enemies is a strong word in this case, I would say opponents.
    Thanks, Keren, for a very level-headed response.  Am not sure I would be in complete agreement with Heath's views.  The war in Iraq is something I don't always feel qualified to have a full and final opinion on.  The Sea Shepherds - well, am crazy about dolphins but am not so sure of that groups tactics.  And as for the 1/2 trillion dollar building project, I'd bet modifications could save the flavor and history of Brooklyn.  What impressed me was that he gave a damn enough to speak up, that he was as impassioned about hurts to other people as he was to his acting craft.  You are right, he had, therefore, opponents.  But I still think there were some who went past that to become enemies.  Certainly on the sexual tolerance issue. Probably on others.
  Yeah, he did make his own music, didn't he?  Thanks for reminding me of a better way to see it all.  And, damn, didn't we love the song?  Thanks, again.

---oops - I left out a smiley face in the first part of the quote, which alters the meaning.  It's in the original.  Am too lazy to re-do the post.
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« Reply #3927 on: Jul 28, 2008, 03:47 PM »
Kudos, Tony and keren!!!
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3928 on: Jul 28, 2008, 11:44 PM »
  As time goes on, am having fewer bad Heath days.  They are now fairly rare, but I have one today and am not sure if this belongs in this thread or the other one.
  Am kind of angry, as it sinks in that, in his last few years, Heath was accumulating....enemies. It's been lightly mentioned in this forum, the obvious ones, particularly the weird religious cult churches that made the early formal memorial services, and even the funeral arrangements in Perth, a nightmare as far as security. 
  But there's been more that's come out, over the months.  Heath had been speaking up against Australian involvement in the war in Iraq.  He also was wild for the Sea Shepherd's group and was planning to do a documentary film on them.  That hardly sat well with the U.S. government, since the FBI had asked congress to define them as an eco-terrorist outlaw organization.
 And then there was his emerging opposition to the huge construction  project in Brooklyn, which has been described as the biggest development project in any city, ever.  Big money.
  He was, then, becoming more of an activist, towards the end, and you can't do that without rattling the cages of powerful people.  So, am a little angry.  And I wonder... was that a smirk I saw on the police commissioner of N.Y.'s face as he held news conferences?
  I don't know what we owe to Heath, these months later.  Loyalty means different things to different people.  I feel uneasy bringing these matters up.
And am not pursuing them.  But, to me, loyalty means not forgetting what was important to him and also remembering there were those who did not like where he was headed.  If that puts me in the doggie-house, well, it won't be the first time.  Saying he was a good guy is so easy to do.  Saying why he was a good guy, that he had a conscience, may not be to the liking of some.

I love knowing he was a good person, yes, and with an inclination to be on the rabble-rousing side.  Good for him!  He would have continued to be an influential person in many ways to many people.  Including those on the "enemies" side -- but then, that's not hard to do these days!

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3929 on: Jul 29, 2008, 12:02 AM »
as an american who watched closely as the president of the country and I use that term very loosely  ::) botched the war by using a bogus lie to invade in the first place I found it refreshing Heath's views on things other than his career quite, it proved he had thoughts beyond himself, not like alot of young high profile people, a few countries that followed bush later determined that was not such a wise idea, and the us government themselves have had to face the facts of the bush administrations lies considering most of this country believes it was foolish to even start this war, personally I would have loved to see the documentary on it and as you say Tony Heath and Michelle were actively against this building of the new basketball stadium, matter of fact the folks in the brooklyn neighborhood said Heath and Michelle lent out their home for various meetings and the like, which means Heath's legacy to his child, family and friends goes beyond his work on screen but the fact he was a caring young fellow who wanted the world he lived in to be a fair and just one
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