Author Topic: Some lines I couldn’t hear clearly (Read 50445 times)

Laundrymat · « **on:** Feb 07, 2006, 11:36 AM »

In the scene which Jack was presenting the farm machine (the big wheel) to the crowd and Lureen was working at the office. There were two gentlemen having conversation about Jack. I couldn’t hear what they said exactly. Was it like something...“he used to drag”

If so, it means the rumors has been moving around in Childress and lead to the murder at the end?

(English is not my first language. Please don’t mind if there any grammar mistakes on my post

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tpe · « **Reply #1 on:** Feb 07, 2006, 11:42 AM »

Quote from: Laundrymat on Feb 07, 2006, 11:36 AM

In the scene which Jack was presenting the farm machine (the big wheel) to the crowd and Lureen was working at the office. There were two gentlemen having conversation about Jack. I couldn’t hear what they said exactly. Was it like something...“he used to drag”

If so, it means the rumors has been moving around in Childress and lead to the murder at the end?

(English is not my first language. Please don’t mind if there any grammar mistakes on my post )

Laundrymat, the conversation hasd more to do with Jack's former stint at the Rodeo.

Farmer 1: Didn't that piss-ant used to ride bulls?

Farmer 2: He used to try...

Lurren look disappointed at her husband and says nothing...

Laundrymat · « **Reply #2 on:** Feb 07, 2006, 11:47 AM »

Quote from: tpe on Feb 07, 2006, 11:42 AM

Laundrymat, the conversation hasd more to do with Jack's former stint at the Rodeo.

Farmer 1: Didn't that piss-ant used to ride bulls?

Farmer 2: He used to try...

Lurren look disappointed at her husband and says nothing...

Ahh…got it. Thank you ever so.

He used to drag??

I’ll pay more attention when I go see the movie next time...

manila_rocks · « **Reply #3 on:** Feb 07, 2006, 12:44 PM »

I cannot see Jack having done drag. However, I think it is much more possible in his case than that of Ennis.

scruffy · « **Reply #4 on:** Feb 07, 2006, 12:51 PM »

I think Lureen looked up disappointed with her father during the farm equipment scene. He never showed respect for Jack. The mirror scene is where Jack turns off the TV and tells the old man to sit down. Lureen shows some delight in the fact that Jack makes a stand and that her father was put in his place.

kcristob · « **Reply #5 on:** Feb 07, 2006, 01:10 PM »

Quote from: scruffy on Feb 07, 2006, 12:51 PM

I think Lureen looked up disappointed with her father during the farm equipment scene. He never showed respect for Jack. The mirror scene is where Jack turns off the TV and tells the old man to sit down. Lureen shows some delight in the fact that Jack makes a stand and that her father was put in his place.

I think Lureen looked up disappointed with Jack. She could have said something in his defense (I mean how about "that's my husband" that's all it would have taken and the men would have been embarrassed and apologetic - it's a WOMAN they've offended). But, she doesn't do that. I'm disappointed in her.

camom · « **Reply #6 on:** Feb 07, 2006, 04:48 PM »

Quote from: kcristob on Feb 07, 2006, 01:10 PM

Quote from: scruffy on Feb 07, 2006, 12:51 PM
I think Lureen looked up disappointed with her father during the farm equipment scene. He never showed respect for Jack. The mirror scene is where Jack turns off the TV and tells the old man to sit down. Lureen shows some delight in the fact that Jack makes a stand and that her father was put in his place.

I think Lureen looked up disappointed with Jack. She could have said something in his defense (I mean how about "that's my husband" that's all it would have taken and the men would have been embarrassed and apologetic - it's a WOMAN they've offended). But, she doesn't do that. I'm disappointed in her.

Yep. Lureen's obviously not a shy woman, so why didn't she say something to defend Jack? I think that scene shows part of the reason she became so wrapped up in numbers and work. It wasn't just the Jack/Ennis triangle; she was disappointed in her choice of a husband, too. Her father's disapproval of Jack probably had a big influence on her as well.

camom

jimmypage · « **Reply #7 on:** Feb 11, 2006, 08:50 AM »

Quote from: camom on Feb 07, 2006, 04:48 PM

Quote from: kcristob on Feb 07, 2006, 01:10 PM
Quote from: scruffy on Feb 07, 2006, 12:51 PM
I think Lureen looked up disappointed with her father during the farm equipment scene. He never showed respect for Jack. The mirror scene is where Jack turns off the TV and tells the old man to sit down. Lureen shows some delight in the fact that Jack makes a stand and that her father was put in his place.

I think Lureen looked up disappointed with Jack. She could have said something in his defense (I mean how about "that's my husband" that's all it would have taken and the men would have been embarrassed and apologetic - it's a WOMAN they've offended). But, she doesn't do that. I'm disappointed in her.

Yep. Lureen's obviously not a shy woman, so why didn't she say something to defend Jack? I think that scene shows part of the reason she became so wrapped up in numbers and work. It wasn't just the Jack/Ennis triangle; she was disappointed in her choice of a husband, too. Her father's disapproval of Jack probably had a big influence on her as well.

camom

I defend Lureen in the thanksgiving scene
she's clearly proud of Jack in that case....and I think she loves him much more than his father.
(after all she married him even if her father didn't like him)
At that time, in that place (and not only then or there..) women had just to keep quiet when men were arguing with each other,
her mother too remains silent all the time.

bram · « **Reply #8 on:** Feb 11, 2006, 09:30 AM »

Even if the two guys had been talking about how he used to drag, they probably would have been referring to drag racing. I'm from a small town in Texas, and that's what I would assume if heard someone say that. Most people here don't call wearing drag, doing drag. Well, except for this drag queen friend of mine...

jpwagoneer1964 · « **Reply #9 on:** Sep 28, 2006, 11:13 PM »

In the middle camping scen when Ennis gets out of the truck, goes over to Jack You do hear them say"

Ennis: Look what I brought.

Jack: Beans.

Ennis: Gonna fix'm just like I used to.

I never heard this all the way through until I sw it at a friends house with a screening room wth surround sound, erc.

greenfrog · « **Reply #10 on:** Sep 28, 2006, 11:26 PM »

Awww

I love it when Jack and Ennis talk beans.

Patriot1 · « **Reply #11 on:** Sep 28, 2006, 11:45 PM »

Quote from: greenfrog on Sep 28, 2006, 11:26 PM

Awww

I love it when Jack and Ennis talk beans.

Yes. However, I am happy their bodies didn't talk beans!

greenfrog · « **Reply #12 on:** Sep 28, 2006, 11:49 PM »

Quote from: Patriot1 on Sep 28, 2006, 11:45 PM

Quote from: greenfrog on Sep 28, 2006, 11:26 PM
Awww

I love it when Jack and Ennis talk beans.

Yes. However, I am happy their bodies didn't talk beans!

Handell · « **Reply #13 on:** Nov 21, 2006, 11:52 AM »

Can anybody tell me what jack replies to Ennis in the scene when Ennis shot the elk:

Ennis: "gettin tired of your dumb ass missin"

Jack: "?"

Help...Thanks Handell

dirtbiker · « **Reply #14 on:** Nov 21, 2006, 03:16 PM »

Something to the effect of "Let's get a move on... Don't want no Game & Fish to catch us with no elk..."

tizi17 · « **Reply #15 on:** Nov 21, 2006, 03:26 PM »

just a short one..
in the novel the kiss at the reunion and ennis says little darlin' - thought i had heard it in the film, too...?? not in the scene book!

tizi

tpe · « **Reply #16 on:** Nov 21, 2006, 06:48 PM »

Quote from: tizi17 on Nov 21, 2006, 03:26 PM

just a short one..
in the novel the kiss at the reunion and ennis says little darlin' - thought i had heard it in the film, too...?? not in the scene book!

tizi

I am not sure about this. I do know he seemed to be mumbling something to Jack right before he shoves Jack against the wall and kisses him -- I had assumed it was "Come here..."

Handell · « **Reply #17 on:** Nov 22, 2006, 12:19 AM »

Thanks dirtbiker. I can't tell you how many times I have watched and rewatched this scene trying to understand what Jacks words. By the way (off topic a moment), I read your story, it really moved me deeply.

dirtbiker · « **Reply #18 on:** Nov 22, 2006, 12:23 AM »

Quote from: Handell on Nov 22, 2006, 12:19 AM

Thanks dirtbiker. I can't tell you how many times I have watched and rewatched this scene trying to understand what Jacks words. By the way (off topic a moment), I read your story, it really moved me deeply.

No problem, Handell. You could turn on the subtitles on the DVD and confirm the hard to hear dialog

LuvJackNasty · « **Reply #19 on:** Nov 23, 2006, 11:23 PM »

Tizi I always thought he said "Later" after he did the nuzzle.
Tpe I also hear him say "Come here" before he kisses Jack

City Slickin' Cowboy · « **Reply #20 on:** Nov 23, 2006, 11:33 PM »

Quote from: LuvJackNasty on Nov 23, 2006, 11:23 PM

Tizi I always thought he said "Later" after he did the nuzzle.
Tpe I also hear him say "Come here" before he kisses Jack

I guess I'm going to pull out the DVD and turn on the captions. If I see confirmation of both I'm going to just melt.

LuvJackNasty · « **Reply #21 on:** Nov 24, 2006, 12:02 AM »

I have headphones and can hear a lot more than I did before I got them. He definitely says Come here before he shoves him into the wall.

I love when they embrace and Jack says Ennis and it goes right into Sonofabitch almost like it's one word.

NoReins · « **Reply #22 on:** Nov 24, 2006, 03:21 AM »

Quote from: LuvJackNasty on Nov 24, 2006, 12:02 AM

I have headphones and can hear a lot more than I did before I got them. He definitely says Come here before he shoves him into the wall. I love when they embrace and Jack says Ennis and it goes right into Sonofabitch almost like it's one word.

I don't have headphones but I heard the "come here" too....and the mumbled "later" as he does the nuzzle.

Oh, and that "Ennisonofabitch" thing....adorable

tizi17 · « **Reply #23 on:** Nov 24, 2006, 04:05 AM »

wonderful.....
sigh!! :\'( :\'(

you know, i maybe just wanted him to say "little darlin" as he did in the story....

tizi

tpe · « **Reply #24 on:** Nov 24, 2006, 08:13 AM »

Quote from: LuvJackNasty on Nov 23, 2006, 11:23 PM

Tizi I always thought he said "Later" after he did the nuzzle.
Tpe I also hear him say "Come here" before he kisses Jack

Yes, MIchelle. He does say "Later" in the end. Ennis mumbles quite a lot, doesn't he?

tpe · « **Reply #25 on:** Nov 24, 2006, 08:18 AM »

Quote from: tizi17 on Nov 24, 2006, 04:05 AM

wonderful.....
sigh!! :\'( :\'(

you know, i maybe just wanted him to say "little darlin" as he did in the story....

tizi

That's alright, tizi17. I guess a lot of us wanted to hear it as well...

CrimsonSky · « **Reply #26 on:** Nov 24, 2006, 08:36 AM »

I'm more of a Jack/Jake girl, but Ennis's "come here" just makes me melt inside, the way he says it, sort of whispering and growling at the same time...

I watched the reunion scene with the subtitles on a few months ago, just to check what was said, and as I remember it, the nuzzle Ennis says "hey..." first, then something like "let's go" or "come on" $:-\\$ I remember it cause I was surprised, I always thought he said "later" $:-\\$ It sounds like "later" and I want him to say "later", so as far as I'm concerned, the subtitles are wrong and he says "later".So there!

The subtitles aren't always right anyway, cause before FNIT it has Jack saying it's too late to go the sheep, but it's Ennis saying it (unless I'm mistaken, but it sounds like Ennis to me). And in SNIT,where Ennis is supposed to be saying "I'm sorry", even though I've tried to convince myself it's that, cause I really want it to be, but it just sounds like Jack saying "it's alright" to me

tpe · « **Reply #27 on:** Nov 24, 2006, 08:41 AM »

Very curious, CrimsonSky. I must say that I had not turned on the subtitles. The discrepancy between what we think we hear and the subtitles is quite strange, although I had noticed this before in some other dvds. And yes, I do think Ennis said "Hey" quite distinctly...

jackster · « **Reply #28 on:** Nov 26, 2006, 07:33 PM »

Quote from: dirtbiker on Nov 22, 2006, 12:23 AM

Quote from: Handell on Nov 22, 2006, 12:19 AM
Thanks dirtbiker. I can't tell you how many times I have watched and rewatched this scene trying to understand what Jacks words. By the way (off topic a moment), I read your story, it really moved me deeply.

No problem, Handell. You could turn on the subtitles on the DVD and confirm the hard to hear dialog

A word of caution on putting too much faith in the subtitles. In several cases they DO NOT match the dialog. Example -The campfire scene where Ennis tells about his Sis and how he and his brother worked in Worland, Jack replies "Friend, that's more words than . . . . " The subtitles show him saying "Man, that's more words than. . . " !!! Quite a difference. There's other's too, it's fun to watch and see how many you can spot.
The guys that do subtitles in Hollywood are not the hgihest paid crew around.

Another cuiosity is to listen to the French dialog version with English subtitles. One incredible ommission in this version of the soundtrack is in the FNIT when Ennis spits on his hand, the whole spitting sound effect for this action is left out of the French dialog version! Maybe there is some cultural reason for this, spitting may be extremely vulgar or something, but it seems like a very significant ommission.

Jackster

aintfoolin · « **Reply #29 on:** Nov 26, 2006, 08:38 PM »

Sometimes Ennis whispers so low that the captions don't even register, but did hear the "hey" and the "later" and I coul d've sworn I heard "little darlin" just as he grabs Jack by the lapels to push him back to the wall.