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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11102003/

COMMENTARY
By Erik Lundegaard
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Updated: 5:33 p.m. ET Jan. 30, 2006

I first saw a trailer for “Brokeback Mountain” during an opening night showing of “The Constant Gardener” at the Lagoon Theater in self-consciously liberal Minneapolis. There were titters from the crowd (possibly from the line “I wish I knew how to quit you!”), and afterward my friend Laurion leaned over and said, “Gay cowboys: I’ve never seen it before and it’s already a cliché.” I thought, “Well, so much for that. If it can’t win over this crowd it can’t win over anyone.”

That was in September.

A few months later my friend Jim in Seattle asked me about “Brokeback.” Jim’s a movie buff, always intrigued by the Oscar candidates, but he said he wasn’t interested in “Brokeback.” He couldn’t articulate why. My sister’s husband, Eric, in Detroit, another movie buff, was similarly uninterested. I had assumed both Jim and Eric within “Brokeback’s” demographic: liberal city-dwellers with gay friends. I thought, “Well, so much for that. If it can’t win over these guys it can’t win over anyone.”

That was in November.

As I write this it’s nearly February and while many people are still tittering — “I wish I knew how to quit you” gags, movie poster parodies, Pres. Bush’s press conference — the film is the furthest thing from a joke. “Brokeback” has been chosen the best picture of the year by The Golden Globes, The Producers Guild of America, Boston Film Critics, Broadcast Film Critics, L.A. Film Critics, N.Y. Film Critics and (big surprise) San Francisco Film Critics. It’s got nine BAFTA (British Academy Award) nominations, and the Directors Guild of America tapped “Brokeback’s” Ang Lee as best director. What should be its biggest awards rival, “Munich,” has largely been forgotten (zero BAFTA nominations, for example), leaving only smaller films like “Capote” and “Good Night and Good Luck” as competition. A win at the Academy Awards on March 5th already feels like a fait accompli.

More startling than its critical reception, it’s selling. Focus Features played the numbers game correctly. When “Brokeback” showed in only five theaters they talked up its huge per-screen-average of over $100,000. When it opened wider and its per-screen-average dipped to normal levels (less than $10,000), they talked up its weekly and overall take. It debuted December 9th at no. 15 and hasn’t dropped lower since. It was no. 8 the following week and then 14, 13, 8, 9, and 5. Early estimates for this weekend place it sixth, with an overall gross of $50 million. Where are the other best picture contenders? None are in the top 10, and none except “Walk the Line” and (just barely) “Crash” have grossed as much as “Brokeback.” No, not even Spielberg’s flick. Think about that for a minute.

All of this in a country that annually passes laws outlawing gay marriage or denying “special rights” (or what the rest of the civilized world calls “rights”) to gay people.

What the hell happened?

The short answer
Here’s the short answer. “Brokeback Mountain” is a spare, powerful film about star-crossed lovers.

That’s it.

We love our love stories. The only love stories we love more are the ones where the lovers are kept apart by forces beyond their control, such as family (“Romeo and Juliet”), class (“Titanic”), or war (“The English Patient”). Anticipation is better than consummation — particularly in drama. Keep the lovers apart! Tease us! Frustrate us! There’s nothing more boring than happy loving couples — in drama or in life.

But how to keep the lovers apart? That’s the question for dramatists everywhere. “Brokeback” offers a new take on an old subject. It’s the ultimate forbidden love — because part of the population is ready to kill you for acting on it.

Thus the question that everyone was asking before the movie’s release — Is “Brokeback” too much for middle America? — turned out to be the wrong question. The real question was: Is “Brokeback” too much for middle-American women? It’s women who drive these types of stories, after all. They had to twist their boyfriends’ arms just to see “Titanic” — and that one offered a topless Kate Winslet. “Brokeback” offers us topless women, too, but in sadder circumstances, and with that still-squeamish-for-straight-men front story. No amount of arm-twisting, it seems, can get many of these guys to head up Brokeback Mountain. But women are so broad-minded, or so in need of a love story, that they’ll go even when their gender isn’t part of the equation.

All of the awards haven’t hurt either. “Brokeback’s” got so much buzz it’s vibrating, and women have never shied away from things that vibrate.

The personal answer
I have to admit that “Brokeback” didn’t look particularly appealing to me from that September trailer. A hopeless, doomed romance. Yay. I also admit to some straight-guy trepidation — but of the general rather than the Larry David “it might make me gay” variety. If the number of times I got screwed over by women in my youth didn’t lead me to consider an alternative, there’s nothing Heath Ledger can do now.

But when I finally saw “Brokeback” I found it nearly perfect. It’s more than a love story; it’s really about loneliness, which is a more universal emotion anyway. Some of us haven’t been in love; some of us don’t believe in love. Everyone’s been lonely.

It’s ambiguous enough to argue about endlessly. Heath Ledger’s Ennis del Mar feels like the man in the film — in the one sex scene, he gives rather than receives — and he’s taciturn and bottled-up in the way of men. He talks with his fists, and sometimes he talks too much, but he’s gentle with women and never has a harsh word for his daughters. One could argue he’s what we want the American man to be. As Manohla Dargis wrote in The New York Times, “I don't know a single straight woman who hasn't been involved with a man as emotionally thwarted as Ennis, the man who can't tell you how he feels because he may not honestly know.” Exactly. Tease us! Frustrate us!

But Jake Gyllenhaal’s Jack Twist actually outmans Ennis. Jack won’t be circumscribed by society. He stands up to his father-in-law, he stands up to his father, he stands up. He tries to live his dreams. Forget everyone else. Forget Ennis, too. If Ennis won’t have the ranch with Jack, Jack will just have it with someone else.

Ennis isn’t strong like that. He’s so scared of who he is he begins to disappear within himself. An early shot shows him leaning against the boss-man’s trailer, head down, cowboy hat covering his face. It’s cowboy cool a la James Dean. Throughout the film Ennis keeps that cowboy hat covering his face but with each frame it becomes more tragic — a man too scared to be seen. Don’t look at my face because you might see who I am. He gives himself a smaller and smaller spot on which to live his increasingly shrunken life. The movie begins with youth and wide-open vistas and ends in middle-age in a tiny trailer. The one scene that broke my heart is wholly ordinary: Ennis, alone in a cafeteria booth, head down, picking at a piece of pie. He’s alone, and will remain alone, no matter how many waitresses try to drag his ass onto the dance floor.

This is why the movie is striking a chord with the non-gay community. Ennis resonates because he reminds us of some part of us. Life has such possibilities, and from lack of courage or weariness or outright fear we allow it to shrink us into this small, sad space doing this small, sad thing. Don’t look at my face because you might see who I am. The film does what it’s supposed to do. It’s specific but it’s universal.

A coupla straight guys sitting around talking
As for my friends Laurion, Eric and Jim? They’ve all changed their minds. Everyone’s talking about “Brokeback” and they want to be part of that conversation. Laurion hasn’t seen it yet but will. Eric thought it good if slightly overrated. Jim thought it one of the best movies of the year.

So no matter what happens March 5th, “Brokeback” has already won.

Erik Lundegaard can be reached at: elundegaard@mn.rr.com
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« Reply #1 on: Jan 31, 2006, 12:09 AM »
wow wow wow wow

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« Reply #2 on: Jan 31, 2006, 02:16 AM »
I think that's the best article about Brokeback I've read yet. Thanks for posting it  :)

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« Reply #3 on: Jan 31, 2006, 05:40 AM »
Very good article! Thanks for posting it.

I am slightly mystified though, that some of you seem to think I started the weekly news coverage, though. Thanks for the laurels guys, but I don't really deserve them  ;D

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« Reply #4 on: Jan 31, 2006, 09:38 AM »
Should we have a topic of its own for this article?
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Re: Love makes ‘Brokeback’ Oscar favorite - MSNBC
« Reply #5 on: Jan 31, 2006, 10:53 PM »
Awesome and very enlighting article, Thank YOU  :) ;)
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« Reply #6 on: Jan 31, 2006, 11:05 PM »
Sob!  :'(

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Re: Love makes ‘Brokeback’ Oscar favorite - MSNBC
« Reply #7 on: Feb 01, 2006, 08:50 AM »
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11102003/

COMMENTARY
By Erik Lundegaard

A very good commentary - thanks Ethan !!!

Yes, the instant popularity of BBM is its appeal as a tragic love story.  Annie Proulx just mixed the genders and set it in rural America.  It's a simple story that isn't complicated with multiple plots and subplots - it's very easy to follow.  It has themes but not politics.   

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« Reply #8 on: Feb 01, 2006, 09:43 AM »
Great read. Thanks for posting!
"I loved it. Shocking. Surprising. The guy who financed my movie did that too. He's a very mild mannered chap from Minnesota and we'd just screened the latest cut of my film and he asked if I wanted to see it. I was thinking, 'OK, this really square, straight guy,' and he showed me this movie. It's amazing.

"They're really good those boys and they did a great job. It's very brave of them."

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Re: Love makes ‘Brokeback’ Oscar favorite - MSNBC
« Reply #9 on: Feb 02, 2006, 02:55 AM »
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11102003/

COMMENTARY
By Erik Lundegaard

It debuted December 9th at no. 15 and hasn?t dropped lower since. It was no. 8 the following week and then 14, 13, 8, 9, and 5. Early estimates for this weekend place it sixth, with an overall gross of $50 million. Where are the other best picture contenders? None are in the top 10, and none except ?Walk the Line? and (just barely) ?Crash? have grossed as much as ?Brokeback.? No, not even Spielberg?s flick. Think about that for a minute.

So no matter what happens March 5th, "Brokeback" has already won.

God, what an article! It's hard to argue with his reasoning. Where, indeed, is the competition? And, even if, for political reasons, BBM doesn't take home all the Oscars that it deserves, it's still won at the box office, and in the influence it's had on our culture.

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Re: Love makes ‘Brokeback’ Oscar favorite - MSNBC
« Reply #10 on: Feb 02, 2006, 05:27 PM »
Thank you, Ethan.  Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful.  BTW, I too, found the diner scene of Ennis eating apple pie alone also heartbreaking.  There is so much in this film that hits me right in my gut.  Yet I keep going back for more.  Sometimes I fantasize that Ennis and Jack do indeed get together and live out their lives in the pursuit of happiness, because the reality is too much to bear.  Everyone I know who has seen this film falls under its spell.  The column nails the universal attraction to Brokeback.

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« Reply #11 on: Feb 02, 2006, 07:03 PM »
Thank you!!!

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« Reply #12 on: Feb 02, 2006, 07:51 PM »
Great article. One of the best I have read as well.  Thanks for sharing!!!
I agree that the movie has already won.... but then we all have.
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« Reply #13 on: Feb 02, 2006, 10:48 PM »
You are welcome. One of the best I have read too. It is rare to see a movie reaching this kind of magnitude.
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« Reply #14 on: Feb 02, 2006, 10:51 PM »
You are welcome. One of the best I have read too. It is rare to see a movie reaching this kind of magnitude.

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« Reply #15 on: Feb 03, 2006, 11:11 PM »
Oh damn, the Cowboy's tearin' up again.  :'(
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« Reply #16 on: Feb 04, 2006, 01:39 AM »
wow what a beautiful article. I just sent him a "well done" email.

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Re: Love makes ‘Brokeback’ Oscar favorite - MSNBC
« Reply #17 on: Feb 04, 2006, 02:41 AM »
Oh damn, the Cowboy's tearin' up again.  :'(

Oh, dang it, Cody!!!  Now I miss my Ennis....

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« Reply #18 on: Feb 06, 2006, 08:47 PM »
Quote
But when I finally saw “Brokeback” I found it nearly perfect. It’s more than a love story; it’s really about loneliness, which is a more universal emotion anyway. Some of us haven’t been in love; some of us don’t believe in love. Everyone’s been lonely.

It’s ambiguous enough to argue about endlessly. Heath Ledger’s Ennis del Mar feels like the man in the film — in the one sex scene, he gives rather than receives — and he’s taciturn and bottled-up in the way of men. He talks with his fists, and sometimes he talks too much, but he’s gentle with women and never has a harsh word for his daughters. One could argue he’s what we want the American man to be. As Manohla Dargis wrote in The New York Times, “I don't know a single straight woman who hasn't been involved with a man as emotionally thwarted as Ennis, the man who can't tell you how he feels because he may not honestly know.” Exactly. Tease us! Frustrate us!

But Jake Gyllenhaal’s Jack Twist actually outmans Ennis. Jack won’t be circumscribed by society. He stands up to his father-in-law, he stands up to his father, he stands up. He tries to live his dreams. Forget everyone else. Forget Ennis, too. If Ennis won’t have the ranch with Jack, Jack will just have it with someone else.

Ennis isn’t strong like that. He’s so scared of who he is he begins to disappear within himself. An early shot shows him leaning against the boss-man’s trailer, head down, cowboy hat covering his face. It’s cowboy cool a la James Dean. Throughout the film Ennis keeps that cowboy hat covering his face but with each frame it becomes more tragic — a man too scared to be seen. Don’t look at my face because you might see who I am. He gives himself a smaller and smaller spot on which to live his increasingly shrunken life. The movie begins with youth and wide-open vistas and ends in middle-age in a tiny trailer. The one scene that broke my heart is wholly ordinary: Ennis, alone in a cafeteria booth, head down, picking at a piece of pie. He’s alone, and will remain alone, no matter how many waitresses try to drag his ass onto the dance floor.

This is why the movie is striking a chord with the non-gay community. Ennis resonates because he reminds us of some part of us. Life has such possibilities, and from lack of courage or weariness or outright fear we allow it to shrink us into this small, sad space doing this small, sad thing. Don’t look at my face because you might see who I am. The film does what it’s supposed to do. It’s specific but it’s universal.

The entire commentary was amazing, but this particular part about the characters seriously struck a chord in me...made me get teary, even! This guy is SO right about the characters! I can't believe it! He said everything I've been thinking since I saw the movie but have been unable to articulate.  :)

And the lines I bolded are those that I think ring especially true. Ennis really does seem to be saying that, "Don't look at my face because you might see who I am." And Jack really is a dreamer, forgetting everyone in order to pursue his dreams. I know I'm repeating myself and the commentator, but I'm just so stunned at how beautiful, poignant, and utterly spot-on his commentary is. I'm struck speechless.

And it IS about loneliness...oh, the loneliness!  :'(

This commentary has made me want to see the movie again even MORE!!!  ;D  Which may be good or bad, because dangit, I'll be going crazy until I see it again...but I love thinking about BBM. Even if it does drive me crazy.  ;)
BBM rocks my socks!   :3

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Re: Love makes ‘Brokeback’ Oscar favorite - MSNBC
« Reply #19 on: Feb 07, 2006, 02:22 AM »
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11102003/

COMMENTARY
By Erik Lundegaard
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Updated: 5:33 p.m. ET Jan. 30, 2006

I first saw a trailer for “Brokeback Mountain” during an opening night showing of “The Constant Gardener” at the Lagoon Theater in self-consciously liberal Minneapolis. There were titters from the crowd (possibly from the line “I wish I knew how to quit you!”), and afterward my friend Laurion leaned over and said, “Gay cowboys: I’ve never seen it before and it’s already a cliché.” I thought, “Well, so much for that. If it can’t win over this crowd it can’t win over anyone.”

That was in September.

A few months later my friend Jim in Seattle asked me about “Brokeback.” Jim’s a movie buff, always intrigued by the Oscar candidates, but he said he wasn’t interested in “Brokeback.” He couldn’t articulate why. My sister’s husband, Eric, in Detroit, another movie buff, was similarly uninterested. I had assumed both Jim and Eric within “Brokeback’s” demographic: liberal city-dwellers with gay friends. I thought, “Well, so much for that. If it can’t win over these guys it can’t win over anyone.”

That was in November.

As I write this it’s nearly February and while many people are still tittering — “I wish I knew how to quit you” gags, movie poster parodies, Pres. Bush’s press conference — the film is the furthest thing from a joke. “Brokeback” has been chosen the best picture of the year by The Golden Globes, The Producers Guild of America, Boston Film Critics, Broadcast Film Critics, L.A. Film Critics, N.Y. Film Critics and (big surprise) San Francisco Film Critics. It’s got nine BAFTA (British Academy Award) nominations, and the Directors Guild of America tapped “Brokeback’s” Ang Lee as best director. What should be its biggest awards rival, “Munich,” has largely been forgotten (zero BAFTA nominations, for example), leaving only smaller films like “Capote” and “Good Night and Good Luck” as competition. A win at the Academy Awards on March 5th already feels like a fait accompli.

More startling than its critical reception, it’s selling. Focus Features played the numbers game correctly. When “Brokeback” showed in only five theaters they talked up its huge per-screen-average of over $100,000. When it opened wider and its per-screen-average dipped to normal levels (less than $10,000), they talked up its weekly and overall take. It debuted December 9th at no. 15 and hasn’t dropped lower since. It was no. 8 the following week and then 14, 13, 8, 9, and 5. Early estimates for this weekend place it sixth, with an overall gross of $50 million. Where are the other best picture contenders? None are in the top 10, and none except “Walk the Line” and (just barely) “Crash” have grossed as much as “Brokeback.” No, not even Spielberg’s flick. Think about that for a minute.

All of this in a country that annually passes laws outlawing gay marriage or denying “special rights” (or what the rest of the civilized world calls “rights”) to gay people.

What the hell happened?

The short answer
Here’s the short answer. “Brokeback Mountain” is a spare, powerful film about star-crossed lovers.

That’s it.

We love our love stories. The only love stories we love more are the ones where the lovers are kept apart by forces beyond their control, such as family (“Romeo and Juliet”), class (“Titanic”), or war (“The English Patient”). Anticipation is better than consummation — particularly in drama. Keep the lovers apart! Tease us! Frustrate us! There’s nothing more boring than happy loving couples — in drama or in life.

But how to keep the lovers apart? That’s the question for dramatists everywhere. “Brokeback” offers a new take on an old subject. It’s the ultimate forbidden love — because part of the population is ready to kill you for acting on it.

Thus the question that everyone was asking before the movie’s release — Is “Brokeback” too much for middle America? — turned out to be the wrong question. The real question was: Is “Brokeback” too much for middle-American women? It’s women who drive these types of stories, after all. They had to twist their boyfriends’ arms just to see “Titanic” — and that one offered a topless Kate Winslet. “Brokeback” offers us topless women, too, but in sadder circumstances, and with that still-squeamish-for-straight-men front story. No amount of arm-twisting, it seems, can get many of these guys to head up Brokeback Mountain. But women are so broad-minded, or so in need of a love story, that they’ll go even when their gender isn’t part of the equation.

All of the awards haven’t hurt either. “Brokeback’s” got so much buzz it’s vibrating, and women have never shied away from things that vibrate.

The personal answer
I have to admit that “Brokeback” didn’t look particularly appealing to me from that September trailer. A hopeless, doomed romance. Yay. I also admit to some straight-guy trepidation — but of the general rather than the Larry David “it might make me gay” variety. If the number of times I got screwed over by women in my youth didn’t lead me to consider an alternative, there’s nothing Heath Ledger can do now.

But when I finally saw “Brokeback” I found it nearly perfect. It’s more than a love story; it’s really about loneliness, which is a more universal emotion anyway. Some of us haven’t been in love; some of us don’t believe in love. Everyone’s been lonely.

It’s ambiguous enough to argue about endlessly. Heath Ledger’s Ennis del Mar feels like the man in the film — in the one sex scene, he gives rather than receives — and he’s taciturn and bottled-up in the way of men. He talks with his fists, and sometimes he talks too much, but he’s gentle with women and never has a harsh word for his daughters. One could argue he’s what we want the American man to be. As Manohla Dargis wrote in The New York Times, “I don't know a single straight woman who hasn't been involved with a man as emotionally thwarted as Ennis, the man who can't tell you how he feels because he may not honestly know.” Exactly. Tease us! Frustrate us!

But Jake Gyllenhaal’s Jack Twist actually outmans Ennis. Jack won’t be circumscribed by society. He stands up to his father-in-law, he stands up to his father, he stands up. He tries to live his dreams. Forget everyone else. Forget Ennis, too. If Ennis won’t have the ranch with Jack, Jack will just have it with someone else.

Ennis isn’t strong like that. He’s so scared of who he is he begins to disappear within himself. An early shot shows him leaning against the boss-man’s trailer, head down, cowboy hat covering his face. It’s cowboy cool a la James Dean. Throughout the film Ennis keeps that cowboy hat covering his face but with each frame it becomes more tragic — a man too scared to be seen. Don’t look at my face because you might see who I am. He gives himself a smaller and smaller spot on which to live his increasingly shrunken life. The movie begins with youth and wide-open vistas and ends in middle-age in a tiny trailer. The one scene that broke my heart is wholly ordinary: Ennis, alone in a cafeteria booth, head down, picking at a piece of pie. He’s alone, and will remain alone, no matter how many waitresses try to drag his ass onto the dance floor.

This is why the movie is striking a chord with the non-gay community. Ennis resonates because he reminds us of some part of us. Life has such possibilities, and from lack of courage or weariness or outright fear we allow it to shrink us into this small, sad space doing this small, sad thing. Don’t look at my face because you might see who I am. The film does what it’s supposed to do. It’s specific but it’s universal.

A coupla straight guys sitting around talking
As for my friends Laurion, Eric and Jim? They’ve all changed their minds. Everyone’s talking about “Brokeback” and they want to be part of that conversation. Laurion hasn’t seen it yet but will. Eric thought it good if slightly overrated. Jim thought it one of the best movies of the year.

So no matter what happens March 5th, “Brokeback” has already won.

Erik Lundegaard can be reached at: elundegaard@mn.rr.com


WOW.... What a thought, the lines:
But Jake Gyllenhaal’s Jack Twist actually outmans Ennis. Jack won’t be circumscribed by society. He stands up to his father-in-law, he stands up to his father, he stands up. He tries to live his dreams. Forget everyone else. Forget Ennis, too. If Ennis won’t have the ranch with Jack, Jack will just have it with someone else.

the first time i saw this movie i only saw Ennis, (he was more like me)...i thought that Jack, he's pretty...but after seeing the movie 5 times I think Jack is who I am drawn to, because unlike Ennis, at some time in my life, I had to look at what society thought of me and say ##(k u!!!  It takes a MAN to be gay, to set himself up to problems, to set himself free, and to deny his real personhood was the act of a coward.  I praise those men who, knowing the crap they have to contend with, say like Jake, bring it on.  I am MAN enought take whatever they want to shell out.......I will be me and I could give a s*&t what society says.

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Re: Love makes ‘Brokeback’ Oscar favorite - MSNBC
« Reply #20 on: Feb 08, 2006, 04:45 PM »
beautiful. simply a beautiful article.. couldn't agree more!
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I don't worry 'cause
Everything's gonna be all right
People keep talking
They can say what they like
But all I know is everything's gonna be all right..

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Re: Love makes ‘Brokeback’ Oscar favorite - MSNBC
« Reply #21 on: Feb 18, 2006, 06:54 AM »
news article  Heatl Ledger surpass all expectation CNN report:;
http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movies/02/16/film.berlinfestival.ap/index.html
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Re: Love makes ‘Brokeback’ Oscar favorite - MSNBC
« Reply #22 on: Feb 18, 2006, 12:35 PM »
news article  Heatl Ledger surpass all expectation CNN report:;
http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movies/02/16/film.berlinfestival.ap/index.html


Thankx for posting...

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"The movie's already exceeded any expectations I had," Ledger told reporters Wednesday at the Berlin International Film Festival. "I think pleasing Annie Proulx, the writer, and getting her nod of approval was the biggest success for me, for us."

Good job Heath..may you win that Oscar!!!!
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