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mimi1996

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Breaks my heart...
« on: Mar 01, 2010, 02:25 AM »
I just wanted to express my feelings on Jack Twist. I wanted to say how much it hurts me to see Jack's obvious pain throughout the entire movie, how he longs to be loved by someone, how, like a puppy who has been kicked so many times yet never loses his loyalty to his master, he pines for Ennis to stay with him and to never leave him. It cuts me right open every time I see that sad puppy-like look of loneliness and desperation in his eyes.
(Note the link between Jack's puppy-dog-like tragedy  and sorrow and Jack's love for "a little dog", as said in the short story)

I cry whenever I even think of the heartbreak both Ennis and Jack had to endure, but it hurts the most to see Jack's longing for acceptance and love with his romantic ways, despite being rejected over and over. Ylou can almost feel his pain as he knows that what he wants and needs more than anything is the one thing he can never have.

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Re: Breaks my heart...
« Reply #1 on: Mar 01, 2010, 05:48 AM »
I just wanted to express my feelings on Jack Twist. I wanted to say how much it hurts me to see Jack's obvious pain throughout the entire movie, how he longs to be loved by someone, how, like a puppy who has been kicked so many times yet never loses his loyalty to his master, he pines for Ennis to stay with him and to never leave him. It cuts me right open every time I see that sad puppy-like look of loneliness and desperation in his eyes.
(Note the link between Jack's puppy-dog-like tragedy  and sorrow and Jack's love for "a little dog", as said in the short story)

I cry whenever I even think of the heartbreak both Ennis and Jack had to endure, but it hurts the most to see Jack's longing for acceptance and love with his romantic ways, despite being rejected over and over. Ylou can almost feel his pain as he knows that what he wants and needs more than anything is the one thing he can never have.

 :ghug: mimi :ghug:

First, welcome to the forum!  ^f^

I know how you feel... Jack's pain was something that was haunting me too... both boys were hurting my heart so much, months of sorrow, tears and sobbing, but Jack somehow was always a little closer to my heart.

It is a heartbreaking story/movie in which so many things rip our hearts. It takes time to heal, but healing is never complete, never enough.

Again - good to see you here!  }s{

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Re: Breaks my heart...
« Reply #2 on: Mar 01, 2010, 02:47 PM »
Mimi, welcome

I want to tell you that you're not alone. I know how you feel, my experience is still fresh so my wounds didn't even start to heal.
This story IS heartbreaking, it's full of sorrow and longing for love.
Jack's pain's something I'm scared of, I never want to be rejected like him. I don't think I would be able to 'pretend' and live 'someone else's life'.

Glad you're with us :ghug:
Chocolate-covered cherries.

Usedta love them things. They way they'd kinda bust open when ya bit em, and that syrupy stuff inside, then the cherry. I'd bite off one side a the shell real careful-like, so none a the syrup spilled, then suck all the gooey out, then fish out the cherry with my tongue, then I'd just have the chocolate shell left and I'd nibble on it till it was gone.

I hadta make em last.

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That is the sexiest thing I've ever heard.

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Re: Breaks my heart...
« Reply #3 on: Mar 02, 2010, 09:50 PM »
I cry whenever I even think of the heartbreak both Ennis and Jack had to endure, but it hurts the most to see Jack's longing for acceptance and love with his romantic ways, despite being rejected over and over. Ylou can almost feel his pain as he knows that what he wants and needs more than anything is the one thing he can never have.

I guess this is why I am a sucker for Jack.  You expressed it so wonderfully here.  Thank you.

The sheer persistence is breathtaking.  And it make the final parting all the more searing.

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Re: Breaks my heart...
« Reply #4 on: Mar 02, 2010, 10:30 PM »
The sheer persistence is breathtaking.  And it make the final parting all the more searing.
  Absolutely, tpe. The snapping of a very strong rope.

  Mimi, thanks for giving us this thread, and your thoughts on the subject. And a big hello!

mimi1996

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Re: Breaks my heart...
« Reply #5 on: Mar 03, 2010, 01:58 AM »
hehe, thank YOU guys for reading and replying  O0

an a big hello right back at ya  ;D

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Re: Breaks my heart...
« Reply #6 on: Mar 03, 2010, 12:28 PM »
I just wanted to express my feelings on Jack Twist. I wanted to say how much it hurts me to see Jack's obvious pain throughout the entire movie, how he longs to be loved by someone, how, like a puppy who has been kicked so many times yet never loses his loyalty to his master, he pines for Ennis to stay with him and to never leave him. It cuts me right open every time I see that sad puppy-like look of loneliness and desperation in his eyes.
(Note the link between Jack's puppy-dog-like tragedy  and sorrow and Jack's love for "a little dog", as said in the short story)

I cry whenever I even think of the heartbreak both Ennis and Jack had to endure, but it hurts the most to see Jack's longing for acceptance and love with his romantic ways, despite being rejected over and over. Ylou can almost feel his pain as he knows that what he wants and needs more than anything is the one thing he can never have.

First of all,and altough it's a little late,welcome to this forum,mimi ¡  :) Congratulations for the way you express what all of us feel for our Jack ¡.I think all of us can feel closer to him because at any time of our lives we maybe have lived a non corresponded love,or had been rejected,or maybe has lived an impossible love...Who knows?But the feeling of suffering for love's matters is something anybody can understand and have as something of one's own.However,I feel much more understanding of Ennis sorrow than when I began to write here,when I though he was a kind of asshole and nothing else... ;D .I have said some times that it's not easy to say "no" with your mouth and a little with your brain,when your heart would say "yes".To be the active part-who says "no"- is not easier than to be the passive part-who hears this "no"-.And that's what he obliged himself to do all his life,renouncing one time and other to what he wished the most.It's such a difficult,pitiful and frustrating way of being,maybe more for who rejects than for who is rejected.Poor boys ¡  :_(
Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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Re: Breaks my heart...
« Reply #7 on: Mar 03, 2010, 10:01 PM »
  Absolutely, tpe. The snapping of a very strong rope.

  Mimi, thanks for giving us this thread, and your thoughts on the subject. And a big hello!

Beautiful image, Tony -- like a rope about to snap.  The tension is palpable.  And when it finally does break, it sweeps us all in it's wake. 



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Re: Breaks my heart...
« Reply #8 on: Mar 03, 2010, 10:05 PM »


They were both trapped by circumstance.  Nonetheless, the pain of rejection is proportional to the love one willingly offers the other.  Jack's recklessness in loving Ennis is something that makes him so memorable -- and loveable to the core.

First of all,and altough it's a little late,welcome to this forum,mimi ¡  :) Congratulations for the way you express what all of us feel for our Jack ¡.I think all of us can feel closer to him because at any time of our lives we maybe have lived a non corresponded love,or had been rejected,or maybe has lived an impossible love...Who knows?But the feeling of suffering for love's matters is something anybody can understand and have as something of one's own.However,I feel much more understanding of Ennis sorrow than when I began to write here,when I though he was a kind of asshole and nothing else... ;D .I have said some times that it's not easy to say "no" with your mouth and a little with your brain,when your heart would say "yes".To be the active part-who says "no"- is not easier than to be the passive part-who hears this "no"-.And that's what he obliged himself to do all his life,renouncing one time and other to what he wished the most.It's such a difficult,pitiful and frustrating way of being,maybe more for who rejects than for who is rejected.Poor boys ¡  :_(

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Re: Breaks my heart...
« Reply #9 on: Mar 07, 2010, 06:20 PM »
I just wanted to express my feelings on Jack Twist. I wanted to say how much it hurts me to see Jack's obvious pain throughout the entire movie, how he longs to be loved by someone, how, like a puppy who has been kicked so many times yet never loses his loyalty to his master, he pines for Ennis to stay with him and to never leave him. It cuts me right open every time I see that sad puppy-like look of loneliness and desperation in his eyes.
(Note the link between Jack's puppy-dog-like tragedy  and sorrow and Jack's love for "a little dog", as said in the short story)

I cry whenever I even think of the heartbreak both Ennis and Jack had to endure, but it hurts the most to see Jack's longing for acceptance and love with his romantic ways, despite being rejected over and over. Ylou can almost feel his pain as he knows that what he wants and needs more than anything is the one thing he can never have.

Yes, mimi, yust so, Jack is like a puppy,that's what hurts me every time when I watch this movie. So hurts me Jack's longing and despair; every time I ask myself: Is Ennis in such horrible fear that constantly refuses Jack's great and unselfish love? Where he gets the power to reject Jack, again and again? After all, why Jack was with him 20 years? To wait in vain? I often put in their role, what would I do that I did Jack or Ennis? If I Ennis, I let Jack to be happy with someone else, I would do it for love of him. If I Jack, I would have left Ennis and sought happiness with someone else, somewhere else, it would be best for both. Believe me, a lot of pain when you can't be with someone you love, I understand Jack's pain.When I watch BBM, I suffer because Ennis fear and Jack's pain, a lot of pain when I think on our unhappy guys.

Dear Mimi, this movie has done us extremely vulnerable ... but as Jake said - you're not alone. ^f^

Go to sleep, may your sweet dreams come true,
Just lay back in my arms for one more night.