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Oscar Countdown - Daily Report
« on: Feb 23, 2006, 12:11 AM »
OK..cowgirls and cowboys..Oscar is only less than 2 weeks.

We are keeping everything possible crossed. Biting fingernails & toenails, trying to get TV and computer close to each other for March 5th.

Here is a report for the Oscar Countdown.

http://www.thefilmexperience.net/Awards/2005/oscar_countdown.html

Day 12 - BBM vs. Crash



I've avoided the Brokeback Mountain vs. Crash debate largely because I saw it coming and it bored me ahead of time. Like a few other notably smart oscarwatchers I said several times that once Crash won the SAG ensemble prize (a win that was never in doubt for me since October) people would freak and suggest that Crash would pull a Shakepeare on Brokeback's Privates. I saw it coming. But what I didn't see coming was the fervor with which some people would start selling and believing this story (against all laws of awards logic) as 'it's going to happen' rather than 'what an upset that would be!'

I think it all started when the anti-BBM brigade got what they saw as a huge boost in the surprise snub of the cowboys in the Editing race. And while it did sting (especially because Geraldine Peroni was a marvelous editor and that would've been a sweet way to bid her adieu) it wasn't the death blow that people made it out to be. While it's true that no film has won the Best Picture Oscar without an editing nomination in 25 years it's been just as long since a film with a nomination total of 6 or less (like Crash) has won. Those statistics both converge at Ordinary People, thereby cancelling each other out, don'cha think?

Nevertheless lots of folks want there to be a race. And a tight one at that. Normally I take no issue with such a desire. I like a good contest, too. But this year I'm very much partial to the frontrunner so I'm less enthused about a battle royale. Frankly, while I respect that Crash has beautiful moments it also has significant problems. It needs a high chair (placed on top of a fireman's ladder?) to even make eye contact with Ang Lee's wonder. Therefore my feeling is this: I wish the media would shut up about "Crash's momentum". It's great to root for the underdog when the underdog is deserving and the frontrunner is less so (which is admittedly the case as often as not). A win for Crash in another year would be fine if completely overstating its worth, but why shoot film history in the foot? Brokeback is going in the books with or without the gold statue...so why pray for Oscar to muck this one up?

I don't see any reason for this media created horse race. The only reason to predict/root for a loss for a film that has won the DGA, PGA, WGA, Globe, BFCA, BAFTA, the public imagination, big bog office, and the most Critics Awards is a reason known as wishful thinking. I know of no case of a film with this much of a haul losing the Best Picture crown to a film with barely any haul at all. So if you're predicting this upset/or rooting for it it means you either:

    a) like Crash better. Which is fine. But maybe you should watch both films again? I'm just sayin'....
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    b) or you are just rooting against Brokeback. Which is a more significant problem. This means either

        1) You're bored. Fine. There have been many "locked" contenders in Oscar history. You'll survive. Maybe next year will be more exciting... (believe me I know the feeling)
        2) You think Munich or Capote or Good Night are the best. Fine. But you know those films aren't going to win so why root against Brokeback?
        3) You're one of those people who think subject matter is all (never mind execution) and think terrorism or racism or McCarthyism are more important than the plight of two men in love in a world that condemns them. If you're one of these people I can't help you. And if you're one of those people who can't see that all four of those themes are basically conjoined under the larger "man's inhumanity to man" heading, I can't help you either. But that's beside the point. Subject matter never made anything the "best". It can help get people on your side but it isn't a qualitative measure.
        or
        4) you're struggling with some homophobia.

I realize saying #4 out loud will attract the haters. But I have to think that that's some of the resistance to this film's success. Hear me out before getting too riled up. I can't come up with any other way (and I've tried to work through scenarios) that this film could lose.

Oscarwatch floated the idea earlier that Crash could win if people vote with their hearts. But Brokeback is hardly a cold exercize. It's a tearjerker itself. So that reason doesn't wash. This is not a cold Scorsese biopic vs. a four-hankie intimate drama like last year or the year of Raging Bull vs. Ordinary People. Roger Ebert claims its all about Crash's momentum. But momentum usually applies to the newer film that is currently all the rage (BBM)

What we have is a film (BBM) with DGA + PGA + WGA+ GLOBE + CRITICS + PUBLIC + BAFTA + BOX OFFICE up against a film (Crash) with only a couple of prizes of note (SAG, ACE, WGA) and an earlier release date. I can't see any way Brokeback loses unless it's through people actively voting against it rather than for something else. Thus suggesting homophobia.

In case you think this is personal prejudice speaking --Let me throw another example at you. I didn't think Schindler's List was the best film of 1993 (my vote would have been with The Piano) But had Schindler's List actually lost after reaping every prize in the known universe as well as the public's support, one would have had to suspect anti-semitism at play. Because how else could a juggernaut like that be toppled? Think on it. You see what I mean? No one is anti-semitic for preferring another 1993 film to Schindler's List just like nobody is homophobic for preferring Crash to Brokeback. (Again, subject matter not being qualitative) But if a majority group within a 6000 person voting pool suddenly turned against a juggernaut like Schindler's which no other similar or even more adventurous group had voted against? There's a problem there other than people liking some other film better. Liking something better will always be fine as reasons go...but if that's the reason it would have happened earlier in some visible form.

David Poland wrote earlier this week:

    "I'm not sure what prospect is scarier to me, Brokeback Mountain winning Best Picture and watching a wave of journalists foolishly pronounce the climate for Gay America via Hollywood to be greatly improved or to see it lose to Crash and to listen to the same people whine about homophobia in Hollywood..."

This comment alarmed me. I agree with the first part. Brokeback's success won't mean that Hollywood has embraced the gays. There are still plenty of films with homophobic elements made. Homophobia is a classic American tradition ;) It's not going away anytime soon. But the second half is way off base. Again, if you look at Oscar history this film is too. big. to. lose. So if by some miracle it does we're talking about an upset of unprecedented proportions. There would have to be a reason for that fluke. The reason would have to be homophobia, because at this point that's the only motivation strong enough to obliterate every rule of Oscar season. If it were simply a matter of people preferring another film, again, you would have seen it earlier. And other upsets of such epic proportions would have happened in the past.

They really haven't. Even Chariots of Fire toppling Reds or Shakespeare in Love toppling Saving Private Ryan had earlier indicators that such a triumph was possible (be it major wins at the Globes outside of Best Picture, Drama or what not.)

I hope you get me on this. I'm not attempting to be "controversial" but once you reach a certain level of awards mass it becomes difficult to explain a loss of such a magnitude --or rather a suggested loss of such magnitude. So I wonder why some people are so insistent on suggesting it. And should it miraculously come to pass, the reasons behind it would be very sad indeed.

But then... I've just written a million words about a moot point. Because Brokeback is not going to lose, now, is it?

-Nathaniel R
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Day 11
« Reply #1 on: Feb 23, 2006, 12:11 AM »
11 days to Osar. Wednesday February 22nd, 2006
"Memoirs of an Oscar-Baiter"



You know. Tonight is the Project Runway reunion episode. And it's also Sasha Cohen's long program at the Olympics. So do I have time for a bunch of phonetics happy geisha? Sure.

"I can write today's countdown entry
with a single spurt.

I am ready."

One of my favorite moments this past year here at the site? The day when Memoirs of a Geisha actually opened and I stopped getting hate mail for my review. Instantly! Funny no? Scathing e-mails about my critical ability and my obvious bias and suddenly vindication. And it turns out mine is one of the kinder reviews. But let's put that aside. Back patting is boring in large doses. Let's talk Oscar. After all, plentiful stinky reviews aside, Geisha came up nearly smelling like a cherry blossom on January 31st when the nominations were announced.

The reviews did kill its shot at the big eight categories. But even an appearance in those categories seemed slightly possible as Gong Li and especially Ziyi Zhang both were mentioned by precursors. But can reviews kill your chances at wins if you actually make it as far as nominations. Geisha's achievement is, as far as I can see fairly rare in the modern era. Six nominations while being that a favorite critical punching bag? Not common. It's especially stunning when you put it in context of other eye-candy period pieces. Consider this: Actually respected eye-candy films that fall short of BP nods often don't even do this well. The Age of Innocence and The Talented Mr Ripley for example.

So how many awards could Geisha actually take home. It seems to have an actual shot at all six of its races. I've listed them in order of likelihood to actually take the statues.

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      Costume Design. This one is probably locked up for Chicago Oscar winner Colleen Atwood. So, yes, Geisha will be able to say "Academy Award Winner" on its video box. Tragic, I know. But more than any other person in any other category this seemed like a done deal as far back as the moment she was hired for the project.
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      Score. I've already discussed this more than enough. I don't know why the sentiment is there to give Williams yet another statue but if the Globes are any indication... (Note of hope: Brokeback's haunting and hummable score could still win this if the Williams sentiment is split between Memoirs and Munich.)
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      Art Direction & Cinematography. Despite sizeable minority complaints including my Symposium guests MaryAnn who said "It looks like it was shot at the Japanese pavilion at Epcot Center." generally people love the way this movie looks. Can it win both? I personally doubt it. The competition is stiff. If AMPAS voters want to reward Good Night, and Good Luck. somewhere it's here. My feeling is that Brokeback will take cinematography and Memoirs or Good Night and Good Luck will go home with Art Direction. It'll be tight.
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      Sound & Sound Editing. I had no idea that Geisha would fare well in these categories. But Kris Tapley does a good job of explaining why Sound could theoreatically go to Geisha, though we both agree that neither award is likely with King Kong , Walk the Line, and War of the Worlds in the mix.

My feeling is that Memoirs gets two Oscars. Costume and either (sigh) Score or Art Direction. But three does seem very much within reach. That would make its statue total as high as other tech favorites like Dick Tracy, Bram Stokers Dracula, Who Framed Roger Rabbit?, and Jurassic Park. Would Oscar voters dare add such a panned film to that relatively esteemed list? I hope not. But it's the Oscars --'nobody knows anything' and stranger things have certainly happened.

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Re: Oscar Countdown - Daily Report
« Reply #2 on: Feb 23, 2006, 12:23 AM »
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(Note of hope: Brokeback's haunting and hummable score could still win this if the Williams sentiment is split between Memoirs and Munich.)

Everything on my body is crossed for Gustavo.

No comments Ethan, plize!

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« Reply #3 on: Feb 23, 2006, 12:32 AM »
Everything on my body is crossed for Gustavo.
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Re: Oscar Countdown - Daily Report
« Reply #4 on: Feb 23, 2006, 09:04 AM »
I don't see any reason for this media created horse race. The only reason to predict/root for a loss for a film that has won the DGA, PGA, WGA, Globe, BFCA, BAFTA, the public imagination, big bog office, and the most Critics Awards is a reason known as wishful thinking. I know of no case of a film with this much of a haul losing the Best Picture crown to a film with barely any haul at all.

I agree with him, it's hard to believe that BBM could be routed by Crash.  BAFTA was a good predictor so I think BBM will defintely get Oscars for Picture, Director and Adapted Screenplay and everything else is open.   


 
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Re: Oscar Countdown - Daily Report
« Reply #5 on: Feb 23, 2006, 09:12 AM »
I agree with him, it's hard to believe that BBM could be routed by Crash.  BAFTA was a good predictor so I think BBM will defintely get Oscars for Picture, Director and Adapted Screenplay and anything else is open.   

Thanks, hidesert. I think so too plus I am hoping at least one acting Oscar. I can't imagine for a film heavily based on acting wins Best Pitcure without any acting award.

BBM is not TLOR or Titanic.
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« Reply #6 on: Feb 23, 2006, 11:45 AM »
How many days now?
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Re: Oscar Countdown - Daily Report
« Reply #7 on: Feb 23, 2006, 02:23 PM »
How many days now?

10 days to the Oscar.
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« Reply #8 on: Feb 23, 2006, 09:26 PM »
I agree with him, it's hard to believe that BBM could be routed by Crash.  BAFTA was a good predictor so I think BBM will defintely get Oscars for Picture, Director and Adapted Screenplay and anything else is open.   

I think so too plus I am hoping at least one acting Oscar. I can't imagine for a film heavily based on acting wins Best Pitcure without any acting award.

BBM is not TLOR or Titanic. 

I agree Ethan, it should get at least one acting award.  What helped Jake win the BAFTA was that George Clooney was nominated twice in that category and Matt Dillon and Don Cheadle were both nominated for "Crash".   The vote was split in Clooney's case and Dillion and Cheadle competed against each other.

LOTR deserved all it's Oscars as Peter Jackson's trilogy was a major achievement.  And I'm a big Tolkien fan too.  I wasn't a big "Titanic" fan.

Next Tuesday (28/2/2006) the Oscar polls close and on Sunday March 5th we'll have all the answers.

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Day 10
« Reply #9 on: Feb 23, 2006, 09:48 PM »
10 Days to Oscar Thursday February 23rd, 2006
"Top Ten People Who Most Benefited From Awards Season 2005/2006" Part 1


Though I don't know any many movie actors personally, I feel it's safe to assume that the "Oscar Curse", that old Hollywood myth that you can be doomed to obscurity or career freefall directly after a win (think Louise Fletcher, Marisa Tomei, Cuba Gooding Jr, Mira Sorvino, etc --yes like scoliosis it can hit men but generally screws with the ladies) is a handy piece of aloe vera when actors get burned on Oscar night.

'At least I won't be cursed!' we imagine them saying too themselves even if they're too proud to utter it aloud.

But we're still 240 hours away from dividing day, when the Oscar has to go to somebody. For now they're all winners. But which ten people are going to get the biggest career boost from this particular awards season? (This is not truly measurable but it's fun to theorize. I had to leave out a few obvious people but bear with me.)

    10. The Snubbed (tie) Christopher Doyle (cinematographer), Joan Allen, Maria Bello, Eric Bana (actors), David Cronenberg (director).
    Don't even give me that look. Snubs matter. Just ask Paul Giamatti. He'd never be tied for frontrunner position for Cinderella Man if it weren't for the one-two snubbing of his critically lauded lead roles in American Splendor and Sideways. So these five people have some ammo now with which to work should they be in the hunt again.

    Momentum isn't discussed enough among Oscar watchers. I personally think career momentum is the most effective way to win an Oscar. Better than de-glam for women or mental problems for men. Those who make haphazard plays for the gold only win if they're very very lucky. Those who do much great work back to back are either repeatedly snubbed until Oscar feels guilty and caves or they are nominated frequently and then win once people start feeling 'it's now or never'. What? You think Renée Zellwegger would've won for her roadshow cartoon in Cold Mountain if she didn't have a three year momentum (Nurse Betty snub, Bridget Jones nom, Chicago nom) to make that opportunity into an avalanche? Think again. Now it's up to these five talents to keep the heat on: Pick the right projects, keep being great, and force the Academy hand.

    09. Kevin O'Connell the sound guy on Memoirs of a Geisha.
    Kris already went over this on his blog. But eventually O'Connell's huge nomination tally (18 and counting) will result in a win. It's that momentum thing again. What he needs is some good PR to make this a Susan Lucci style root-for-him story. Sentiment rarely helps the behind the scenes people win because people tend to vote on the movie itself without that prism of personality that comes with fame. But sentiment can help. I mean if Oscar sites are talking about him it stands to reason that eventually Oscar voters will be, too. Not a cause and effect mind you... but the way things tend to work. Obsessives/fringe dwellers talk first. Eventually the public catches on. (In this case the public is the very exclusive AMPAS)

    08. (tie) Arianne Phillips & Jacqueline Durran costume designers. Arianne finally got a more traditional Oscar bait picture and did it proud. Phoenix & Witherspoon were radiant in her work. Now Hollywood might notice how good she's always been. She's done trend-setting and punk tinged work on The Crow, Tank Girl, and Hedwig & The Angry Inch. But her two biopics The People Vs. Larry Flynt and now the Oscar nominated Walk the Line show the range that creative personnel need for long careers and gold statues. This really ought to get her more high profile projects.

    Across the pond Jacqueline is just now starting to make her mark. She's only been the lead costumer on four films but the last two have caught Oscar's eye (Vera Drake and Pride & Prejudice). Expect to see her name on many more shortlists in the years to come.

    07. Rachel Weisz The Constant Gardener
    She's the frontrunner. And maybe this movie releases her from her prison of "the poor man's Kate Winslet" and maybe this performance releases her from the thankless 'girlfriend' parts she sometimes gets. But should she win, she should tread carefully. She seems a perfect target for that dread Oscar curse. We shall see but here is her big opportunity to take her career to a new level.
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« Reply #10 on: Feb 23, 2006, 11:12 PM »
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Just ask Paul Giamatti. He'd never be tied for frontrunner position for Cinderella Man if it weren't for the one-two snubbing of his critically lauded lead roles in American Splendor and Sideways.


That's very true, it's happened a number of times.  If Heath Ledger doesn't win this year and it's not looking good, there is next year.  It's easy to dismiss Academy members as an uncaring bunch but then they will turn around and show they have a memory by rewarding an actor for a previous years performance or a series of performances. 

I still think BBM was overlooked for an editing nomination. 

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« Reply #11 on: Feb 23, 2006, 11:14 PM »
I still think BBM was overlooked for an editing nomination. 

I completely agree.
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9 Days to the Oscar
« Reply #12 on: Feb 24, 2006, 11:55 PM »
9 Days to Oscar Friday February 24th, 2006
"Top Ten People Who Most Benefited From Awards Season 2005/2006" Part 2


Let's just jump right back to it...

    06. Dan Futterman Capote
    Losing the Oscar to Brokeback Mountain won't matter. The word is out about his multi-hyphenate talents. Future offers are sure to proliferate. Hopefully he'll write a part for himself and remind people that he's no slouch in front of the camera either (see Urbania)

    05. (tie) Heath Ledger & Jake Gyllenhaal Brokeback Mountin
    Cruel society already separated Ennis & Jack. I'm not about to repeat that. I'll make this short since everyone has already obsessed on these golden boys. It goes like this: Heath saved his career. All he has to do now is prove he deserved those Brando comparisons. If he plays his cards right he's got a Mystic River style Oscar 10-12 years from now when his youth and publicity awkwardness is not a deterrent to the voters. Jake's healthy career didn't need saving. But you can bet this performance considerably expanded his fanbase beyond the Gyllenhaalics. The sky is the limit for both of them now.


    04. Terrence Howard Hustle & Flow
    2005 made him a star. The Oscar nomination was merely icing on the cake. But the attention all awards season revealed a born-to-play-the-part celebrity ease in the blinding lights. That's something that might have taken longer to surface without the good fortune of the statue runs. So now, going into a jaw-dropping slate of future films he looks not only like a new star but like a perennial one. This is not a common effect of your first year on the red carpet.

    03. David Strathairn Good Night, and Good Luck.
    Of the various character actors nominated this year in both supporting and lead roles I think this awards run may pay off the best for David Strathairn. Giamatti was already getting the plum supporting bits with or without the Oscar love. Dillon already had a high level of fame. Etc... Strathairn is a familiar face to moviegoers but he's not really a famous one. I imagine that this awards season attention will lift his career to where it should have been all along; i.e. instead of being maybe the 3rd or 4th ranked supporting character in a movie, maybe now he'll be getting the showcase supporting roles that are almost leads which could lead him to an eventual Oscar win.

    02. Amy Adams Junebug
    It's been a wild year for this charmer. Sundance acting prizes are a nice PR tool for small indies but it's not like they usually result in 12 more months of attention. Amy was already peppering the 'one-to-watch' lists with a memorable bit in Catch Me If You Can, but Junebug is now her official audition piece. And by that I mean, she won't have to audition as much anymore. Now, comes the tricky part: How does she parlay this very memorable character work into a whole career without repeating Ashley but also without going so far in the other direction that people forget it's this actress they love who made the character soar?

    01. Paul Haggis writer/ director Crash
    He'll have a screenplay Oscar on his mantle in another 9 days. But consider this; the huge but not overwhelming success of Crash puts him in a perfect position to clean up again at another Oscar ceremony soon. He won't be winning director so 5 years from now they'll consider him "due." People want to work with him. And he seems to be a really nice guy, too. Think Ron Howard. Not a genius or anything but exactly the kind of craftsman that the Academy loves to honor; a competent hand for baity subject matter, accessible for the mall crowds. His A Beautiful Mind will surely come.
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« Reply #13 on: Feb 25, 2006, 12:26 AM »
BRAVO on number 5 Ethan, perfect comment regarding Heath ledger, give him still the golden boy
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« Reply #14 on: Feb 25, 2006, 12:30 AM »
BTW: doe's anyone else or just me , but since this morning i started to get butterflies in my stomach and feeling sweaty, nervous and sleep deprive knowing the Oscars are sliddering their way closer to the dreaded day!Please some assurance needed they wont lose
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« Reply #15 on: Feb 25, 2006, 12:35 AM »
frenchcda, we are all here and have made it this far.....BBM is a tough cowboy. It is nerve wrecking, I know. You are not the only one. How could BBM lose? It has been a winner for many of us.  :D
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« Reply #16 on: Feb 25, 2006, 07:10 AM »
05. (tie) Heath Ledger & Jake Gyllenhaal Brokeback Mountin
    Cruel society already separated Ennis & Jack. I'm not about to repeat that. I'll make this short since everyone has already obsessed on these golden boys. It goes like this: Heath saved his career. All he has to do now is prove he deserved those Brando comparisons. If he plays his cards right he's got a Mystic River style Oscar 10-12 years from now when his youth and publicity awkwardness is not a deterrent to the voters. Jake's healthy career didn't need saving. But you can bet this performance considerably expanded his fanbase beyond the Gyllenhaalics. The sky is the limit for both of them now.

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« Reply #17 on: Feb 25, 2006, 12:43 PM »

Last-minute Screenings Draw Unenthusiastic Audiences[/b]

LA Times  24/2/2006

With ballots due at PricewaterhouseCoopers by 5:00 p.m. next Tuesday [February 28th] and Oscar campaigns all but played out, this is the last weekend for academy members to see any remaining films and make up their minds.

At this point, though, the fight is over a small number of ballots; PwC partner Rick Rosas says that academy voters tend to cast their ballots early, meaning that the only categories still in play at this point are the very close races.

And when it comes to the big movies in contention, it's hard to imagine that many undecided voters are just now getting around to seeing "Brokeback Mountain" or "Crash" or "Munich."

That's why it's probably wrong to dwell too much on the report from one Academy member that at the last official academy screening of "Brokeback," "only about three people" applauded at the end of the movie. A voter who waited until the last minute to catch up with the film probably isn't likely to vote for it anyway, right?

The same, presumably, goes for "Munich," which also recently had its last academy screening at the Samuel Goldwyn Theater. A guest at that screening reports no applause at the end of the movie — along with, curiously, "a lot of conversation in languages that were not English" on the way to the parking lot.



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« Reply #18 on: Feb 25, 2006, 08:50 PM »
    06. Dan Futterman Capote
    Losing the Oscar to Brokeback Mountain won't matter. The word is out about his multi-hyphenate talents. Future offers are sure to proliferate. Hopefully he'll write a part for himself and remind people that he's no slouch in front of the camera either (see Urbania). 


I agree, it will be an added bonus for him when he looks for his next project.  The first time I recall seeing Futterman was in "The Birdcage" playing Robin Williams' son.  A forgetable performance in a forgetable movie.   He did some TV and then I saw him in "Urbania" and I noticed that he was a good actor.

Futterman, PSH and Bennett Miller (Capote director) are old school friends.  At I first surprised that Futterman did the screenplay, an adaptation from a bio of Capote - his first screenplay for a fine film.  He graduated from Columbia and apparently learned a few things about writing. 

 

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« Reply #19 on: Feb 26, 2006, 12:44 PM »
8 Days to Oscar Saturday February 25th, 2006
"Reader's Response"


Good news first. After my request for international help in my coverage of international cinema in 2006, I've gotten a very healthy response. I haven't gotten back to many of you yet but I will. I am still looking for helpers, so if you've been shy but secretly wanting to write, please do so.

Bad news: Not everyone agrees with me on everything.



I kid. I kid. That's not really bad news. A difference of opinion can be healthy. As is so often the case with the cinema and I, the focal point for all contention between readers and my writing always seems to land in Spielberg land. In this case, I got quite a bit of angry mail about SS's favorite composer John Williams (pictured, left) ...or rather my comments about the composer on the music page. So both sides now: Here are a couple of passionate responses from readers.

From Joe Allen:

After reading your commentary on John Williams, I find your sarcastic remarks less than funny.  You are correct in that it is impossible to be the best all the time. John would even admit that himself, and remember yes he's been nominated a lot, more than most, but he's also lost allot, more than most.  However, if you look at some of his loses, they are much funnier than your commentary.  Superman loses to Midnight Express, Empire Strikes Back loses to Fame, and Raiders loses to Chariots of Fire. Please, those were asinine. 

    Even today, this foolishness still exists.  Angela's Ashes, which is a nice JW score, was nominated, but not the brilliant The Phantom Menace (the only brilliant aspect of that film).  Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, and Prisoner of Azkaban losing to Lord of the Rings, and Finding Neverland respectively is utterly foolish.  To his credit John Williams has 45 nominations, and before its all said and done he's likely to have more.  There is a remote possibility that he will pass the beloved Walt Disney in total nominations.  While John is a great film composer, I don't think you're quips about his being better than many of the great classical composers is even a fair comparison, they are two unique forms of music, similar, but dissimilar all the same.

And this from Marcus Paul:

    I recently read your musings on composer John Williams, Academy Award nominations, and the impossibilities of artistic "supremacy" in any field... While I found your comments quite witty, I'm afraid they are also (and forgive me for saying so) sadly uninformed.

    Now, I am a classically trained composer, with a lot of experience from the concert world as well as the world of stage and cinema, and it is clear to me that if we are to judge Williams' efforts from the point of view of craftsmanship, the issue would not be his "ridiculous" amount of nominations, but rather his amount of "losses", which, more than anything, seems political, and symptomatic of the consequences of having artisans of different fields voting on achievements they are not equipped to rank and rate.

    To say that John Williams is, by very far, the most musically literate of the composers currently working in Hollywood(or elsewhere),is a grand understatement. Some will argue that the craft of classical composition in modern film, is an anachronistic presence, thus essentially claiming that the film medium cannot be "classical" (in its true meaning). I personally find "timeless" so much richer than "trendy". John Williams is, inarguably, one of the greatest composers alive today, and certainly the greatest musical craftsman in the world of film. One might aesthetically prefer the contributions of others, but that does not diminish Williams' achievements.

    Is it impossible to always be the single best in your field? Perhaps, but it depends on the general conditions of any particular field. If your colleagues are Rosza,Herrmann and Goldsmith, well, then you're in wonderful company, and the level of competition should be very high.Given the current conditions, it is almost artistically insulting to even suggest a competition.Again, from the point of view of musical technique, knowledge and experience(and one might choose to add talent and wisdom).  It is refreshing to let new people in, but it is foolish to assume that new equals better. This is one of the great myths of modernity.


I have responded to Marcus and Joe personally and found them to be quite serious about this issue but respectful of my feedback and my larger point. Both seem to take most offense at the number of losses Williams has had rather than the issue of being nominated annually. While his win total was never really my point of contention, I do understand how that might be frustrating to people who feel that he is the greatest composer. For the record he would have a few wins from me as well (I'm not deaf) but the nomination count wouldn't begin to approach this jawdropping number. Even were I to love John Williams as much as others do, it would be hard for me to take a branch seriously that has continually ignored enduring talents like Angelo Badalamenti and routinely ignores new sensations like Michael Nyman, Mychael Danna, and especially Alexander Desplat.

Marcus has a great point when he reminds that new does not neccessarily equals better. But surely it equals one of the best more often than the Academy's musical branch is ever willing to admit (this year's newcomer heavy nominations are an exception rather than the norm).


Let's hope BBM will win the Best Music.
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