Topic: Walk to the bar.

[welshwitch]

I also wonder whether Ennis had ever been into a bar before. Methodists were't - maybe still aren't - keen on the demon drink. (My mother was a Methodist; she and her sisters  signed the pledge before they weer in their teens, and none of the three was ever very keen on alcohol ever after, though in later life all three would have a drink on special occaions.) If Jack had been rodeoing, he'd have been in bars with other rodeo cowboys, presumably; anyway, Jack always seems more experienced in the ways of the world than Ennis.And he appears to have more money - could have been an issue for Ennis?

[tpe]

I also wonder whether Ennis had ever been into a bar before. Methodists were't - maybe still aren't - keen on the demon drink. (My mother was a Methodist; she and her sisters  signed the pledge before they weer in their teens, and none of the three was ever very keen on alcohol ever after, though in later life all three would have a drink on special occaions.) If Jack had been rodeoing, he'd have been in bars with other rodeo cowboys, presumably; anyway, Jack always seems more experienced in the ways of the world than Ennis.And he appears to have more money - could have been an issue for Ennis?

Interesting point.  It looked that it was not his first time to have beer, no?  It is difficult for me to imagine tht Ennis had never entered a bar, but then again, I am not a Methodist...

Ennis certainly appreared not to have had any money.  I get the feeling that Jack treated him to a drink.  Perhaps this also accounts for his trailing Jack when they were walking to the bar? 

[welshwitch]

I'm sure ennis had drunk beer before; the most likely time would be when he was working with his brother, I'd have thought, but this needn't have been in a bar.In the ss Jack drank beer cooled in a wet sack ( ingenious!) as he ate the meal Ennis had cooked.

I'm a lapsed Methodist, if such a thing exists - very lapsed - and I can still remember the stress put on avoiding pubs and drink generally.

[tpe]

I'm sure ennis had drunk beer before; the most likely time would be when he was working with his brother, I'd have thought, but this needn't have been in a bar.In the ss Jack drank beer cooled in a wet sack ( ingenious!) as he ate the meal Ennis had cooked.

I'm a lapsed Methodist, if such a thing exists - very lapsed - and I can still remember the stress put on avoiding pubs and drink generally.

Ennis trailing behind Jack could also indicate that he was unfamiliar with Signal.  Jack had been there before, and knew the right places. 

If Ennis never went to bars, then he would certainly not have known the way, even if it was not his first time being in Signal.

Ennis was probably not yet a lapsed Methodist at this point, no?  I am not really sure.  But if he was still practicing, then he must not have been particularly observant.  The same with Jack -- he didn't strike me as an observant Pentecostal.  And I don't know what Pentecostals think about drinking. 

 

[Patriot1]

Ennis was probably not yet a lapsed Methodist at this point, no?  I am not really sure.  But if he was still practicing, then he must not have been particularly observant.  The same with Jack -- he didn't strike me as an observant Pentecostal.  And I don't know what Pentecostals think about drinking. 

The way Ennis and Jack went after the beer in the bar and the whiskey on the mountain I am sure those were not their first drinks.

[welshwitch]

Well, they don't seem to have much problem with them do they? So I guess their mothers' influence, if any, has been long forgotten. Ennis isnlt the sort to make the running in any situation involving Jack - this scene just prefigures what comes later.

I guess you might see Jack as leading Ennis into temptation?

[Patriot1]

Well, they don't seem to have much problem with them do they? So I guess their mothers' influence, if any, has been long forgotten. Ennis isnlt the sort to make the running in any situation involving Jack - this scene just prefigures what comes later.

I guess you might see Jack as leading Ennis into temptation?

I don't think either of the boys were particularly religious. Jack says his mom is a pentacostal and not that they are/were and Ennis says my folks was Methodist and not we were Methodists or I was raised Methodist.  Don't sound like either one included themselves in any religion.

I am just glad Jack treated Ennis like an 1840's [censored] and lead him to the back door.   

[welshwitch]

I am saying absolutely nothing.

[Patriot1]

I am saying absolutely nothing.

    Gosh. And I thought I was being so subtle with my double entendre.   

[greenfrog]

I am just glad Jack treated Ennis like an 1840's [censored] and lead him to the back door.   

Yes  . . . Very subtle     

[Patriot1]

I am just glad Jack treated Ennis like an 1840's [censored] and lead him to the back door.   

Yes  . . . Very subtle