Topic: After shooting the elk

[Stephen]

Now, back to the Elk scene! Who recalls the next image that follows the elk scene; is it the meat hanging on the racks?   I ask because after 5 viewings, there are still parts of the film that don't come back clearly; the real test of knowing the film is being able to know the editing, which scene follows another. The elk scene seems to jump out of nowhere, but there is a thread there and I can't recall what it is. Which scene preceeds the elk scene?

[Toadily]

Now, back to the Elk scene! Who recalls the next image that follows the elk scene; is it the meat hanging on the racks?   I ask because after 5 viewings, there are still parts of the film that don't come back clearly; the real test of knowing the film is being able to know the editing, which scene follows another. The elk scene seems to jump out of nowhere, but there is a thread there and I can't recall what it is. Which scene preceeds the elk scene?

It's after Ennis has come back from the bear incident, where he lost the food and Jack says he won't settle for beans.
We then see Ennis shoot the Elk, like Jack got him to not settle and try something to solve a problem.

[tpe]

After the Elk scene, I think the campfire is shown along with the meat hanging on the rack.

Before: Jack saying 'Well I won't' as far as sticking with beans.  (Beautiful profile shot BTW.)

Have not checked the screenplay or the movie, so the'after scene' is something I would like verified.

[tpe]

I forgot to add, in the same scene after the one with the Elk, they also show them eating the meal...

[Russianman]

Yes, they first show Ennis putting some meat on the bread and eating the sandwitch with gusto 

[Stephen]

Ah, wonderful; thanks for the info. Now I can picture that segment of the film!  You reminded me of Jack's comment that he would not accept any more beans, which in turn recalls his assertion that it's unfair of the two of them to have to be separated, one at camp, one with the sheep.....these two little details say a lot about Jack's uncompromising character and his later frustration at having only Brokeback, without a continuous relationship with Ennis.

[boots]

Ah, wonderful; thanks for the info. Now I can picture that segment of the film!  You reminded me of Jack's comment that he would not accept any more beans, which in turn recalls his assertion that it's unfair of the two of them to have to be separated, one at camp, one with the sheep.....these two little details say a lot about Jack's uncompromising character and his later frustration at having only Brokeback, without a continuous relationship with Ennis.

Well said, Stephen.  These two details form an arc over the span of twenty years, eh? 

I have to admit, finally, to y'all that I can barely come here anymore.  There's still so much to say and process, so much pulling or jabbing beneath the surface, but it doesn't seem to want to come forward.  Like a scared or sullen child, it lingers in the dark.  This movie has peeled back the guard rails and now so much lies exposed, vulnerable.  Yep.

I've seen the movie nine times and will probably see it again before it leaves Portland.  And will definitely purchase the DVD.  Something remains unresolved...I suppose this message is more suited for the PBS post.  Oh well, I'll let it stand.

[Stephen]

I think the "unresoved" is never really resolved: we just learn to live with it, as we do with the death of a loved one, or an unrequited love.....but I find that each time I immerse myself in the details of BBM, I come away with a bit more sorrow, and wisdom, and thankfulness that the film offers the soul so much.....

[boots]

I thiink the "unresoved" is never really resolved: we just learn to live with it, as we do with the death of a loved one, or an unrequited love.....but I find that each time I immerse myself in the details of BBM, I come away with a bit more sorrow, and wisdom, and thankfulness that the film offers the soul so much.....

Good point, Stephen, and nicely articulated.  Sorrow, and wisdom.  And wisdom opens onto a vast, mostly untrammeled field. 

That incredible scene glimpsed just outside Ennis' trailer window...

[Johnny Angel]

What does Ennis say to Jack after the elk shooting...after he says he was "gettin' tired of your dumbass missin'."   I've seen the movie eight times and can't figure it out.  They both laugh and Jack seems particularly happy.

Can anyone tell me?  Thanks.

Remember the scene where Jack tries to shoot the coyote and misses?  Apparently, he's not too handy with a rifle.  Then after they lose most of their provisions because of the bear, they're hungry and apparently had been trying to shoot some game for food.  The implication is that Jack had been shooting, and missing, so Ennis took over.

If you watch the scene where Ennis shoots the elk, you can see how Jack's face is tense with anticipation as Ennis aims and fires.  And when the elk falls down, that's when Jack yells, "Whoo-wee! Yeah," shoving Ennis.   Ennis replies, "I was getting tired of your dumb-ass missing..." and shoves Jack back in return. 

[Stephen]

Thanks, Johnny, for the detailed replay; the film is no longer playing in my area, so I have to wait for the DVD to study it again, even though I've  seen BBM  5 times in the theater!  Now, I can picture the elk scene again!  I've never wanted to memorize a film before! But now I want to be able to play it over in my imagination......