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« Reply #120 on: Aug 28, 2007, 07:37 AM »
thank you for the information didnt know they auctioned the stuff from the film.

Auction they did. BIG TIME. "The shirts" went for in the neighborhood of $101,000.00, which I believe is a record for film memorbilia. Jack's black GMC truck went for about $60,000. all for charity and good causes. If you're really intersted send me a message and I will send you some info on the literally hundreds of other BBM film icons that were auctioned on ebay.

RE: Jack's green coat. To my knowledge I've never seen it turn up at auction or otherwise. Ennis's coat (or coats as there were several) did get auctioned, but you can actually still buy the identical coat today from the manufacturer.
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« Reply #121 on: Aug 28, 2007, 07:54 AM »
Auction they did. BIG TIME. "The shirts" went for in the neighborhood of $101,000.00, which I believe is a record for film memorbilia. Jack's black GMC truck went for about $60,000. all for charity and good causes. If you're really intersted send me a message and I will send you some info on the literally hundreds of other BBM film icons that were auctioned on ebay.

RE: Jack's green coat. To my knowledge I've never seen it turn up at auction or otherwise. Ennis's coat (or coats as there were several) did get auctioned, but you can actually still buy the identical coat today from the manufacturer.
yes i would love some info thanks.i would love a coat like that but as i live in the uk it would probaly be difficult to obtain one.
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« Reply #122 on: Aug 28, 2007, 08:33 AM »
yes i would love some info thanks.i would love a coat like that but as i live in the uk it would probaly be difficult to obtain one.

Actually I don't think being in UK should be a problem. There is the same model coat - Carhartt Chore Coat C01 on auction right now on ebay, but it's a size 44 (US), pretty big. Heath's was a 42 I think.

See: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=180152590807&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=008

You can also go to the Carhartt website and see the coat:

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If you're really serious be sure and look for the coat with the tan collar, the similar "prewashed" coats have a black collar. The original style C01 coat is really stiff when new, but its easy enough to do your own "prewash" and aging, I did it to mine and now it looks just like Ennis's (you also have to carefully trim off the pocket label).
Unfortunately, Heath Ledger hasn't stopped by to model it for me yet, but if he does I'm ready!  :)  :)  :)

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« Reply #123 on: Aug 28, 2007, 12:30 PM »
Actually I don't think being in UK should be a problem. There is the same model coat - Carhartt Chore Coat C01 on auction right now on ebay, but it's a size 44 (US), pretty big. Heath's was a 42 I think.

See: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=180152590807&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=008

You can also go to the Carhartt website and see the coat:

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If you're really serious be sure and look for the coat with the tan collar, the similar "prewashed" coats have a black collar. The original style C01 coat is really stiff when new, but its easy enough to do your own "prewash" and aging, I did it to mine and now it looks just like Ennis's (you also have to carefully trim off the pocket label).
Unfortunately, Heath Ledger hasn't stopped by to model it for me yet, but if he does I'm ready!  :)  :)  :)


sorry i thought you meant you could get a coat like jacks green one from the manufactor thats what i am after.
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Re: jacks mountain coat
« Reply #124 on: Aug 28, 2007, 01:20 PM »
Sorry lightnin flat, as I said, never seen it come up, and never read anything about it. Odd seeing how it played such an important role and was so distinctive.

It seems everything else of Jack's appeared on the block: black hat(s), harmonica, lighter, shaving cup, all kinds of shirts including that snappy purple one and the red one, watches, jeans, even the other coats including the shearling one worn at the stream during the reunion "It'd be a sweet life". Also the "fat suit" they made for Jake that he wore to make him look older and heavier. But no green coat, maybe Jake kept it, he did look good in it!  O0
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Re: jacks mountain coat
« Reply #125 on: Aug 28, 2007, 01:43 PM »
Thanks jackster and lightnin flat.

lightnin flat, have you visited the forum thread that covered the big BBM charity auction last year?  You may find it interesting.  A number of us did participate here.

Also, Ken Wills, the property manager for the film, sold a number of his BBM holdings on eBay.  I had not checked recently, but I didmanage to get something from him also.



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Re: jacks mountain coat
« Reply #126 on: Aug 28, 2007, 01:58 PM »
I read somewhere that the wardrobe departments on some of these films shop at thrift stores and find these one-of-a-kind items. Maybe he did keep it as he did indeed wear it well. The carhart coat that Ennis wears is still very popular today even . several guys on my job own them or similar ones.
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« Reply #127 on: Aug 28, 2007, 02:03 PM »
I read somewhere that the wardrobe departments on some of these films shop at thrift stores and find these one-of-a-kind items. Maybe he did keep it as he did indeed wear it well. The carhart coat that Ennis wears is still very popular today even . several guys on my job own them or similar ones.

Gyllenhaal was quoted somewhere (hope my emory is not faulty here) that he did keep some of the clothing, for memory's sake.  Or the old article posted here about the BBM wardrobe must have mentioned that the cast kept a few itmes for themselves (I remember belts as being mentioned, for some reason). Jennis and I had suspected for some time that the green coat was one of the items.  But we can't be so sure.

I know that a lot of items from the BBM wardrobe were displayed somewhere in LA and London for a time, and Jennis was unable to go, I recall.  Still, I have not heard of any direct testimonial that this coat had ever been exhibited.


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« Reply #128 on: Aug 28, 2007, 03:54 PM »
My guess is that this green coat was either a std. production item (i.e. actually in some companies product line) or specially made for the movie. Usually for an item like this that appears in many different scenes it is necessary to have several backups for it (also ones to fit the doubles). It's just too risky, if something happens to the one piece you'd have suspend shooting the film ($$$$!!) until a new one was made or reshoot (again $$$$). Obviously for the jeans, shirts and hats this is not much of a problem, and the Carhartt coat was easily duplicated all being ready wear items. Even Jack's black truck had a back-up for certain scenes. This would make a really interesting research project to try and find out the story here with this coat, if anyone knows anyone connected with the wardrobe dept on BBM it would be a place to start.

I have recently been trying to do some research on Ennis's first hat. It was labeled as a Stetson in one of the auctions, but I cannot find a truely identical hat in their line. There is a very similar one, but it has a much shorter 4" crown. Ennis's hat is very tall when compared to other standard cowboy hats, looks like a 6" crown. I'm wondering again if this wasn't custom made, designed especially look good on Heath's head? It sure does IMHO. If anyone knows any details about this hat I'd appreciate hearing about it.
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Re: jacks mountain coat
« Reply #129 on: Aug 28, 2007, 04:43 PM »
My guess is that this green coat was either a std. production item (i.e. actually in some companies product line) or specially made for the movie. Usually for an item like this that appears in many different scenes it is necessary to have several backups for it (also ones to fit the doubles). It's just too risky, if something happens to the one piece you'd have suspend shooting the film ($$$$!!) until a new one was made or reshoot (again $$$$). Obviously for the jeans, shirts and hats this is not much of a problem, and the Carhartt coat was easily duplicated all being ready wear items. Even Jack's black truck had a back-up for certain scenes. This would make a really interesting research project to try and find out the story here with this coat, if anyone knows anyone connected with the wardrobe dept on BBM it would be a place to start.

I have recently been trying to do some research on Ennis's first hat. It was labeled as a Stetson in one of the auctions, but I cannot find a truely identical hat in their line. There is a very similar one, but it has a much shorter 4" crown. Ennis's hat is very tall when compared to other standard cowboy hats, looks like a 6" crown. I'm wondering again if this wasn't custom made, designed especially look good on Heath's head? It sure does IMHO. If anyone knows any details about this hat I'd appreciate hearing about it.

Good point, jackster.  Ther hats were probably custom-made.  I know that Jake's BBM shirts were custom-made for him.  I should go back to the hats of Ennis and Jack auctioned off last year.  I also remember that some of them showed noticable wear...

AS for this green coat, it remains a mystery to me -- where it is right now...

 

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« Reply #130 on: Aug 28, 2007, 09:46 PM »
It's so funny to see this thread here. I was watching scenes earlier tonight- of them up on the mountain and I was thinking on the green coat and saying how badly I'd love to have it. Perhaps he did keep it for himself. Should I get lucky enough to gain access to him his stuff I'll fill you all in if I find it  ;)
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Re: jacks mountain coat
« Reply #131 on: Aug 28, 2007, 09:58 PM »
Now I'm dying to buy some coat :-X
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« Reply #132 on: Aug 29, 2007, 04:20 AM »
Thanks jackster and lightnin flat.

lightnin flat, have you visited the forum thread that covered the big BBM charity auction last year?  You may find it interesting.  A number of us did participate here.

Also, Ken Wills, the property manager for the film, sold a number of his BBM holdings on eBay.  I had not checked recently, but I didmanage to get something from him also.



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« Reply #133 on: Aug 29, 2007, 04:33 AM »
It's so funny to see this thread here. I was watching scenes earlier tonight- of them up on the mountain and I was thinking on the green coat and saying how badly I'd love to have it. Perhaps he did keep it for himself. Should I get lucky enough to gain access to him his stuff I'll fill you all in if I find it  ;)

 if you should by some miracle come across that coat and out of the goodness of your heart you decide i need it more than you because winter is on its way in the uk .just one more thing can you make sure jack is still in it when you post it to me. :t)
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« Reply #134 on: Aug 29, 2007, 04:45 AM »
Sorry lightnin flat, as I said, never seen it come up, and never read anything about it. Odd seeing how it played such an important role and was so distinctive.

It seems everything else of Jack's appeared on the block: black hat(s), harmonica, lighter, shaving cup, all kinds of shirts including that snappy purple one and the red one, watches, jeans, even the other coats including the shearling one worn at the stream during the reunion "It'd be a sweet life". Also the "fat suit" they made for Jake that he wore to make him look older and heavier. But no green coat, maybe Jake kept it, he did look good in it!  O0
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« Reply #135 on: Aug 29, 2007, 06:57 AM »
It's so funny to see this thread here. I was watching scenes earlier tonight- of them up on the mountain and I was thinking on the green coat and saying how badly I'd love to have it. Perhaps he did keep it for himself. Should I get lucky enough to gain access to him his stuff I'll fill you all in if I find it  ;)

It would probably surface sometime in the future.  If Jake does indeed own it, then I suspect that at a future auction, it will not come cheap...


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« Reply #136 on: Aug 29, 2007, 07:00 AM »
Now I'm dying to buy some coat :-X

Cham, I do think a number of the BBM wardrobe will probably be on the market again -- sometime in the near future.  And one can always find out where to get coats of the same brand or make...


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« Reply #138 on: Aug 29, 2007, 07:34 AM »
Cham, I do think a number of the BBM wardrobe will probably be on the market again -- sometime in the near future.  And one can always find out where to get coats of the same brand or make...


Hmmm . . . . Tell you what, maybe we should think about marketing a new line of outerwear, the "Brokeback" line, 'course we couldn't use "Brokeback" but we could come up with a special name - like, the "No reins Line" or "E & J Ranchwear". Offer the whole line - jeans, shirts, boots, coats, hats, belts, even camping gear and maybe even get our own house label whiskey "Old Rose". Whatya' think?
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« Reply #139 on: Aug 29, 2007, 07:43 AM »
Hmmm . . . . Tell you what, maybe we should think about marketing a new line of outerwear, the "Brokeback" line, 'course we couldn't use "Brokeback" but we could come up with a special name - like, the "No reins Line" or "E & J Ranchwear". Offer the whole line - jeans, shirts, boots, coats, hats, belts, even camping gear and maybe even get our own house label whiskey "Old Rose". Whatya' think?

 ;D  I like "No reins Line".  ;)

Perhaps we should figure out where something like the green coat can be bought or made.  Else, we should try to reproduce it is such a line.  :)




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« Reply #140 on: Aug 29, 2007, 08:14 AM »
  Else, we should try to reproduce it is such a line.  :)


You bet. That's what I was thinking, we'd do all the outfits. Could sell 'em by the year . . . '63 line, '67 line, '70 line, etc, etc. Unfortunately it doesn't lend itself to a ladies line. Alma wasn't too inspired, but maybe the Cassie and Jr. lines would be sellers, of course there always Lureen and Lashawn, so I guess those would be pretty snappy - I really liked that red blouse that Lureen wore in her office, the one with those "lucky" horseshoes stratigically placed on the front! Takes a "special" kind of gal to wear that! :clap: (Gettin' OT here).
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« Reply #142 on: Aug 30, 2007, 08:09 AM »
You bet. That's what I was thinking, we'd do all the outfits. Could sell 'em by the year . . . '63 line, '67 line, '70 line, etc, etc. Unfortunately it doesn't lend itself to a ladies line. Alma wasn't too inspired, but maybe the Cassie and Jr. lines would be sellers, of course there always Lureen and Lashawn, so I guess those would be pretty snappy - I really liked that red blouse that Lureen wore in her office, the one with those "lucky" horseshoes stratigically placed on the front! Takes a "special" kind of gal to wear that! :clap: (Gettin' OT here).

Most certainly: Alma was NOT very inspired!

But taste is a myterious thing.  ;)

I'd but the green coat in an instant!


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« Reply #143 on: Aug 30, 2007, 12:54 PM »
Just don't anyone suggest seeling Alma's droopy knits and tacky nightie - she really has no taste. (Actually I could probably do her look from what I own, but I'm not going to admit it.)

Funny how in general male work-clothes are often attractive and constantly come in and out of fashion while female ones are always dreary and depressing. Sorry,  *o)

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« Reply #144 on: Aug 30, 2007, 04:35 PM »
Funny how in general male work-clothes are often attractive and constantly come in and out of fashion while female ones are always dreary and depressing.

Sorry, Even More  *o) *o) *o)

WW: I think it may not be so much the style clothes as the "hangers" they are put on. If you saw some of the male work clothes displayed at my factory your opinion of "often attractive" may need to be revised.

Jeans and white Ts look fantastic on Jake and Heath  :d), but with beer belly "muffin tops", stretched out neck or arm holes, and love handles on a scale that could be used by forklifts, the attractive side of these clothes is somewhat hard to decern. You don't hear the term "plumber's butt" applied to women and for good reason. Michelle's a real looker, but I think they went out of their way to find drabwear so she'd be less appealing in contrast to Jack. That one shot of her coming home with the mail (postcard #2) and groceries in arm has her wearing jeans and she looks pretty sharp and sassy to me. Do you think Ennis's PJs are really any better than Alma's nightie? If my partner had tried to get me to wear those 5 years ago I'd rather of dropped dead, but after seeing Heaths butt (and cleavage) in them I'm ready to go buy a pair for myself (and him!).
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Re: jacks mountain coat
« Reply #145 on: Sep 03, 2007, 09:04 AM »
Here is the thread:

http://ennisjack.com/index.php?topic=6752.msg260561#msg260561


i had a look at the stuff being auctioned found it very interesting as i said didnt realise it was auctioned off. sounds as though a lot of people want to get their hands on jacks green coat, :t)
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« Reply #146 on: Sep 04, 2007, 11:03 AM »
i had a look at the stuff being auctioned found it very interesting as i said didnt realise it was auctioned off. sounds as though a lot of people want to get their hands on jacks green coat, :t)

To be sure, it is like the Holy Grail.  ;)

I would certainly love to know its whereabouts, at the very least!


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« Reply #147 on: Sep 05, 2007, 03:31 PM »
The greencoat coat was excellent, but the one he wore during the divorce scene strikes my fancy. The fringe, ooh lala! and then there's the blue parka, and the one he wore in the confrontation scene, ( very eddie bauer). He could model either one of these for me any time he gets ready!. Were any of these auctioned off? especially the fringed one.  :P :P (t) (t)
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« Reply #148 on: Sep 05, 2007, 03:46 PM »
Were any of these auctioned off?

I believe they all were. I've saved files on many of these auctions but not all, I was more interested in the Ennis stuff. Jack's beige parka & grey shirt from the "I wish I knew how to quit you" scene went for $2,650. as a set. The blue parka & purple shirt (looks so hot with those blue eyes!) went for $3,477, again as a set. Sorry I don't have info on your fav fringe jacket
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« Reply #149 on: Sep 06, 2007, 07:16 AM »
The greencoat coat was excellent, but the one he wore during the divorce scene strikes my fancy. The fringe, ooh lala! and then there's the blue parka, and the one he wore in the confrontation scene, ( very eddie bauer). He could model either one of these for me any time he gets ready!. Were any of these auctioned off? especially the fringed one.  :P :P (t) (t)

aintfoolin, I would gladly make you wear Jack's coat during the confrontation scene if we meet in some future BBM gathering.

As weas mentioned in the thread, one of the blue parkas had "treasures" in the pockets when the buyer finally got it.

As for the green coat, why it has not been offered for auction seems to suggest that perhaps Gyllenhaal is keeping it as a memento of BBM.  If this is true, that would make the coat priceless in my estimation...