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Re: little darlin' - possible spoiler!
« Reply #30 on: Feb 03, 2006, 04:44 PM »
Little Darlin' - what a lovely way for Ennis to have spoken to Jack. I wish he would've said it but I suspect the directors would've thought it too much for mainstream audiences to relate to.  Jack was a little darlin' tho - very sweet, flirtatious and loveable - I am sure that is how Ennis thought of him too, throughout their time together.  Ennis was head over heals for Jack, all the way.  Even from the time they chatted together over the fire, when Ennis relates his time growing up w/o parents, and Jack starts to smile and says 'that's the most words you said these last two weeks!'  The two of them were madly in love and the tent scene on the second night only confirms this - Ennis kisses and hugs Jack as though he has met the love of his life. 

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Re: little darlin' - possible spoiler!
« Reply #31 on: Feb 15, 2006, 06:34 PM »
remember the moment Ennis said to Jack what while sipping coffee?  and Jack then told him this is the most words he'd spoken in two weeks, that tells you how fond Ennis is about Jack, another memorable moment
another one is where Ennis said , ma dad said you ranchers are all f***-ups! that was cute
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Re: little darlin' - possible spoiler!
« Reply #32 on: Feb 15, 2006, 07:06 PM »
I love the 'lil darlin' in the book.. so sweet.  if they had more time to to show more scenes of Jack and Ennis together, i think a 'lil darlin' might have work.  oh, well... we know it's there.. tee hee
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Re: little darlin' - possible spoiler!
« Reply #33 on: Feb 16, 2006, 08:14 AM »
When the scene from the book where Ennis calls Jack "Little Darlin" is not included in the film, I am not quite sure why it could be described as a possible spoiler?!  ???  However, my nick will give away my favourite scene (of the book)...    Btw: BBM is part of the collection of short stories - Close Range - reading all of it will not only make you understand but also appreciate much more Ennis' & Jack's personality as Wyoming ranchers much more after reading the whole book!

Although I was not able to see the film yet, I took the liberty of glancing the scene on the internet. The scene in the film is quite different from what it is in the book (book: Jack comes up the stairs onto the landing, film: Ennis comes down the stairs towards Jack/book: their lips come together easily, film: Ennis looks around and lures Jack into the dark corner before they kiss). Like anyone would be, I was first disappointed of this. But in the film, Ennis' second daughter has a different name as in the book where she is called Francine. So I know that the film did not intend to visulise the book and therefore cannot expect to see all of it. I have also glimpsed the scene of Ennis & Jack after Ennis' divorce and the sadness of Jack - in the book you will not be made aware of Jack's feeling or reaction at all.

Back to "Little Darlin" as I know it from the book. The attraction started by percieving that Annie Proulx managed to write "everything" in just one sentence. The attraction to the scene itself is its easiness (as Annie Proulx wrote) or inevitability (as I would say) - Ennis & Jack being like opposingly poled magnets drawn to each other, escape impossible, and Ennis, in his minimalistic way, showing, probably without even realising, his love for Jack by making him - with his daughters and horses - the most valuable item he treasures (only the Pope would see this as a symbol of the Holy Trinity). Reading it, one does not ask why Ennis & Jack are attracted to each other (gay, straight, bi - who cares) and there is nothing wrong with it.

Given all the feelings we find out about them in the book - it is hard to imagine how Ang Lee could have transformed this into a motion picture given the fact that both characters do not speak very much! In about three weeks time I'll be able to appreciate the film as well.

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Re: little darlin' - possible spoiler!
« Reply #34 on: Feb 16, 2006, 01:04 PM »
Given all the feelings we find out about them in the book - it is hard to imagine how Ang Lee could have transformed this into a motion picture given the fact that both characters do not speak very much! In about three weeks time I'll be able to appreciate the film as well.

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True Litle Darlin' could not be used in the movie for that matter...too bad...It is one of my favourite passage's of the short story too.

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Re: little darlin' - possible spoiler!
« Reply #35 on: Mar 11, 2006, 05:45 AM »
Also, it's things like that, that keep the story fresh, no matter how many times you read it.  There are things in the story that aren't in the movie, and things in the movie that aren't in the story.  So in a way, we got twice as much Brokeback;)

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Re: little darlin' - possible spoiler!
« Reply #36 on: Mar 11, 2006, 09:27 AM »

Although I was not able to see the film yet, I took the liberty of glancing the scene on the internet. The scene in the film is quite different from what it is in the book (book: Jack comes up the stairs onto the landing, film: Ennis comes down the stairs towards Jack/book: their lips come together easily, film: Ennis looks around and lures Jack into the dark corner before they kiss). Like anyone would be, I was first disappointed of this.

Since you brought up this scene (thanks), I wanted to remind everyone that this scene was edited abruptly and for its content at the Academy Awards during the Best Score nomination montage (when the violinist plays). They haphazardly cut from the move clips to the violinist then suddenly back again. It is an obvious edit for content and also very disappointing...but not surprising, huh?
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