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Did you hear Ennis say "I love you" during the closet scene?

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Re: Ennis says "I love you" in closet scene - Spoiler - New POLL
« Reply #30 on: Apr 08, 2006, 12:20 AM »
Someone posted and verified on another board that Ennis actually says "I love you" while exhaling after he smells the shirts in Jack's bedroom!  Did anyone hear it?  I'll have to go check it out tonight when I get home  ;D  WOW  (might have to turn on the subtitles just to be sure)

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Just when I think I cant possibly cry anymore here I go again. )

I am crying hysterically and can't stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
   
This is just something Heath Ledger would do to.  Add to the script and say it just loud enough to hear very faintly and not loud enough to make the movie mushy.



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« Reply #31 on: Apr 08, 2006, 12:38 AM »
LOL, love the icons, Patriot1  ;)

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« Reply #32 on: Apr 08, 2006, 02:21 AM »
Another vote for love: I heard it, too. That has to be the most sottissimo voce line I've ever heard, but it's there. Ennis has his mouth half-covered with the shirts, but if you look very closely, you can see him say, "I love you." The words are more whispered than spoken, and they're not in the subtitles. It almost makes me wonder if Ang Lee did this deliberately - hid little "treasures" like this in the movie to drive us all insane trying to find them.

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Re: Ennis says "I love you" in closet scene - Spoiler - New POLL
« Reply #33 on: Apr 08, 2006, 02:57 AM »
Another vote for love: I heard it, too. That has to be the most sottissimo voce line I've ever heard, but it's there. Ennis has his mouth half-covered with the shirts, but if you look very closely, you can see him say, "I love you." The words are more whispered than spoken, and they're not in the subtitles. It almost makes me wonder if Ang Lee did this deliberately - hid little "treasures" like this in the movie to drive us all insane trying to find them.

Actually, I believe it was Heath Ledger's idea.  He seems to have put a lot of thought into his character and the whole movie.

I am going to be honest here and say that when I first saw Heath he was a bundle of nerves that drove me up the wall.  And when he stood on stage with his hand on his hip at the SAG Awards was it and giggled over the intro to BBM I really was not impressed with him EXCEPT for his acting ability.  That was magnificent.  But I am beginning to believe Heath is a very sensitive young man who is going to be a force to be recconed with as an actor.  I think we all have the privilege of seeing a shooting star in the making.  With BBM, I can't help but wonder if his real Ennis back home didn't give him some of that sensitivity.
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Re: Ennis says "I love you" in closet scene - Spoiler - New POLL
« Reply #34 on: Apr 08, 2006, 05:18 AM »
Another vote for love: I heard it, too. That has to be the most sottissimo voce line I've ever heard, but it's there. Ennis has his mouth half-covered with the shirts, but if you look very closely, you can see him say, "I love you." The words are more whispered than spoken, and they're not in the subtitles. It almost makes me wonder if Ang Lee did this deliberately - hid little "treasures" like this in the movie to drive us all insane trying to find them.

When I saw this thread, I was skeptical at first, as we all know that this film tends to be whatever the viewer, or in this case listener, needs it to be.  I had to check it out for myself, so I did, listening very carefully and my initial response was, it's not there, it's just an exhalation of breath after breathing in deeply searching for a trace of Jack's scent. And he sort of puffs the air out. But I tried it again, with the sound turned up as high as the tube McIntosh will go, now I could hear something in that exhalation. It took 3 more passes before I was convinced, but now I am!! And the words aren't even really whispered they are just barely breathed, but they are matched by lip movements. What an amazing detail, a revelation!! And it is followed almost immediately by Roberta Maxwell's nod of the head when she sees Ennis bringing the shirts down the with him. Has there ever been another film that rested so heavily on such delicate nuances?? And I'm sure I don't have to tell you all what my reaction was.
« Last Edit: Apr 27, 2006, 12:56 PM by proulxfan »
Jack: " Nice to know you, Ennis Del Mar."

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Re: Ennis says "I love you" in closet scene - Spoiler - New POLL
« Reply #35 on: Apr 08, 2006, 05:37 AM »
Oh, I was so overcome I forgot my manners and forgot to add: Thank you, Dirtbiker for bringing us this detail. It literally takes the story to another level. And I might add I never would have gotten this from watching it on the big screen. I am so thankful for the DVD version.
« Last Edit: Apr 08, 2006, 05:39 AM by proulxfan »
Jack: " Nice to know you, Ennis Del Mar."

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Re: Ennis says "I love you" in closet scene - Spoiler - New POLL
« Reply #36 on: Apr 08, 2006, 06:33 AM »
DON'T DO THIS TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't have my own copy so I can't even check for myself, and it drives me crazy just thinking about it!!! you guys seriously wanna kill me??
BTW I had my eyes operated this last Wednsday, and up until today I wasn't even able to sit in front of the computer. no ennisjack.com, no posts, no youtube videos... I still can't see very clearly, everything is a bit blurry, otherwise I'd rush to the theater again tonight!!!
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Re: Ennis says "I love you" in closet scene - Spoiler - New POLL
« Reply #37 on: Apr 08, 2006, 07:22 AM »
OH MY GAWD!! HE DOES!!!!!! Ennis does say "I LOVE YOU"  I can't believe it!!  I heard it 3 out of the 4 times I listened to it!!!!  The first time I thought I just heard breath coming out, but no!! "I LOVE YOU!!!  I can't stop crying!   

Ennis is holding the shirts.  When he picks up the sleeve he then takes in a deep breath. As he is exhailing he says, I LOVE YOU!!!!

   

I want to see it so badly!!!!
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« Reply #38 on: Apr 08, 2006, 10:26 AM »
OH MY GOD.  HOW DID WE MISS THAT.

Yes, I can hear Ennis say "I Love You."  You can see his lips move...


WOW.   

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Re: Ennis says "I love you" in closet scene - Spoiler - New POLL
« Reply #39 on: Apr 08, 2006, 10:39 AM »
Oh, I was so overcome I forgot my manners and forgot to add: Thank you, Dirtbiker for bringing us this detail. It literally takes the story to another level. And I might add I never would have gotten this from watching it on the big screen. I am so thankful for the DVD version.

Yes, thank you Dirtbiker!  As proulxfan says, a lot of us never would have caught this without someone pointing it out.  It is quite the revelation!
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Re: Ennis says "I love you" in closet scene - Spoiler - New POLL
« Reply #40 on: Apr 08, 2006, 10:47 AM »
OH MY GAWD!! HE DOES!!!!!! Ennis does say "I LOVE YOU"  I can't believe it!!  I heard it 3 out of the 4 times I listened to it!!!!  The first time I thought I just heard breath coming out, but no!! "I LOVE YOU!!!  I can't stop crying!   

Ennis is holding the shirts.  When he picks up the sleeve he then takes in a deep breath. As he is exhaling he says, I LOVE YOU!!!!

   

I want to see it so badly!!!!

When you do, forget the tissues honey...bring a towel.  Say!  I don't think anyone who watches a dubbed version will hear it.  I think it is going to have to be the English version.  That is so sad. Everyone should hear it.  I am still crying over it and the last time I listened to it was yesterday about 4 o'clock.

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Re: Ennis says "I love you" in closet scene - Spoiler - New POLL
« Reply #41 on: Apr 08, 2006, 11:12 AM »
When you do, forget the tissues honey...bring a towel.  Say!  I don't think anyone who watches a dubbed version will hear it.  I think it is going to have to be the English version.  That is so sad. Everyone should hear it.  I am still crying over it and the last time I listened to it was yesterday about 4 o'clock.

I can't wait!!!
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Re: Ennis says "I love you" in closet scene - Spoiler - New POLL
« Reply #42 on: Apr 08, 2006, 12:07 PM »
I dont hear it  :(

EDIT: NOW I DO!!! OMG!!!
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Re: Ennis says "I love you" in closet scene - Spoiler - New POLL
« Reply #43 on: Apr 08, 2006, 12:27 PM »
Yes, it's very brief and uttered in a sigh, so you have to really pay attention and turn the volume up or listen with headphones.  It is soooooooo sweet.  Gives more certainty to the "Jack, I swear" line...  Also, did you all notice how subtle the background sounds are (using headphones) while he is in Jack's room?  You can hear all the creaks on the wooden floor and the wind blowing on the outside.

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« Reply #44 on: Apr 08, 2006, 12:30 PM »
Yes, it's very brief and uttered in a sigh, so you have to really pay attention and turn the volume up or listen with headphones.  It is soooooooo sweet.  Gives more certainty to the "Jack, I swear" line...  Also, did you all notice how subtle the background sounds are (using headphones) while he is in Jack's room?  You can hear all the creaks on the wooden floor and the wind blowing on the outside.

Yes, I noticed this.  I watched the DVD on my laptop with headphones, volume turned up 100% since it is a quiet scene.  All the sounds, coupled with the images on the screen, make for an incredible experience:  wind; creaking wood planks; sighs; outdoor sounds; the muffled and sighed, "I love you."  It's amazing.
« Last Edit: Apr 08, 2006, 12:32 PM by boots »
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« Reply #45 on: Apr 08, 2006, 01:56 PM »
I have listened again about tewnty times and I so want to hear the words.

I am not gonna say I did just to not seem stupid. 20+ times I have listened and yes I see his lips moving, but to me they are just gently brushing the shirt like butterfly kisses. They only sound I hear from Ennis' lips is a sigh...sorry no words at all, regardless if I have the volume up full or listen through headphones ( which I asked my sister to bring up specially).

I must be stupid then cos I can't hear those three little words at all.

I'll just leave it till I hear something or read something from Heath or Ang in an interview.

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« Reply #46 on: Apr 08, 2006, 02:02 PM »
You need a new amplifier and headphones tombul  ;)

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« Reply #48 on: Apr 08, 2006, 04:53 PM »
OMG!!! i'm so nervous!!
i still have to wait for two weeks til i get the dvd!

I DON'T WANT TO WAIT!!!!!

wanna hear this "i love you"! it's so exciting!!
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Re: Ennis says "I love you" in closet scene - Spoiler - New POLL
« Reply #49 on: Apr 08, 2006, 04:55 PM »
I have listened again about tewnty times and I so want to hear the words.

I am not gonna say I did just to not seem stupid. 20+ times I have listened and yes I see his lips moving, but to me they are just gently brushing the shirt like butterfly kisses. They only sound I hear from Ennis' lips is a sigh...sorry no words at all, regardless if I have the volume up full or listen through headphones ( which I asked my sister to bring up specially).

I must be stupid then cos I can't hear those three little words at all.

I'll just leave it till I hear something or read something from Heath or Ang in an interview.



Tom I didn't hear it either and I have an excellent set of Sony headphones but then I was one of the first to hear the I'm sorry I'm sorry in the second tent scene and I'll be da**ed if I can hear it now, but I know it is there, heard it clear as a bell several times. But then I have yet the brought some beans statement either. Guess I'll just have to keep watching the DVD over and over and over again til I hear all this stuff. Darn, I was so looking forward to watching the grass grow outside of my apartment.  ;D
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« Reply #50 on: Apr 08, 2006, 04:56 PM »
I have listened again about tewnty times and I so want to hear the words.

I am not gonna say I did just to not seem stupid. 20+ times I have listened and yes I see his lips moving, but to me they are just gently brushing the shirt like butterfly kisses. They only sound I hear from Ennis' lips is a sigh...sorry no words at all, regardless if I have the volume up full or listen through headphones ( which I asked my sister to bring up specially).

I must be stupid then cos I can't hear those three little words at all.

I'll just leave it till I hear something or read something from Heath or Ang in an interview.



Same here, with the headphones and sound full blast!  Never heard I LoveYou  :-[
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Re: Ennis says "I love you" in closet scene - Spoiler - New POLL
« Reply #51 on: Apr 08, 2006, 05:10 PM »
Same here, with the headphones and sound full blast!  Never heard I LoveYou  :-[

That is really so sad because it IS there and it makes that one scene (for me anyway) THE scene of the movie.  I was watching the NASCAR Busch race this morning/afternoon.  Nothing can be further from Brokeback Mountain what with its rednecks and yet several times while watching I just burst into tears.  How beautiful it is to hear those words when none were expected.

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« Reply #52 on: Apr 08, 2006, 05:11 PM »
I'll try again, you guys are driving me insane  ???
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« Reply #53 on: Apr 08, 2006, 05:16 PM »
I'll try again, you guys are driving me insane  ???

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« Reply #54 on: Apr 08, 2006, 05:22 PM »
So.  I'm in the middle of a big work project and promised myself that I wouldn't even open the DVD until I'd finished my project nex week.  However, this "I love you" discussion got under my skin, and I decided to go ahead and open the DVD and play that scene, all the while thinking that I'm never going to hear this (I have a hearing loss).  Never mind.  It came through clear as a bell.  It's breath taking and heart breaking, and... I wonder why no one heard it in the theater???  Maybe the DVD really does come with "extras" and they just weren't listed on the package!  Allan

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« Reply #55 on: Apr 08, 2006, 05:27 PM »
So.  I'm in the middle of a big work project and promised myself that I wouldn't even open the DVD until I'd finished my project nex week.  However, this "I love you" discussion got under my skin, and I decided to go ahead and open the DVD and play that scene, all the while thinking that I'm never going to hear this (I have a hearing loss).  Never mind.  It came through clear as a bell.  It's breath taking and heart breaking, and... I wonder why no one heard it in the theater???  Maybe the DVD really does come with "extras" and they just weren't listed on the package!  Allan

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« Reply #56 on: Apr 08, 2006, 05:28 PM »


There you go Chameau!  Even Allan who has a hearing loss can hear it!!

Don't forget you are suppose to put the headphones on the head with the ears!!!

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« Reply #57 on: Apr 08, 2006, 05:34 PM »
I need to hear this. I haven't been able to yet, but I haven't gotten a chance to try it with headphones.
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« Reply #58 on: Apr 08, 2006, 06:05 PM »
 I played the shirt scene several times before. Then I brought it down to the big screen and pulled one of the speakers from the home theater down to my ear- I thought I heard it and then I didn't hear it. I went out and bought headphones and played the scene again. As he's picking the shirts up his hand goes to the chest of the shirt and I swear I heard him say "Oh Jack" or just "Jack" {I played it 4 times } then after he is inhaling I heard the I love you!  ;D :'(  That just wrecked me even more. That scene was hard enough before that, now it just rips your heart out even more.  :'(
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« Reply #59 on: Apr 08, 2006, 06:52 PM »
As he's picking the shirts up his hand goes to the chest of the shirt and I swear I heard him say "Oh Jack" or just "Jack" {I played it 4 times } then after he is inhaling I heard the I love you!  ;D :'(  That just wrecked me even more. That scene was hard enough before that, now it just rips your heart out even more.  :'(

Try as I might I can't hear him say "Jack" or anything like it.  From the time he discovers HIS shirt inside Jack's I hear very clearly his trembling breath.  Just after he picks up the sleeve as he is holding the shirts to his chest, he says, "I Love You" and then I hear nothing because I am crying like I don't think I have ever cried before.

Sorry, no "Jack" here.

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