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Priceless - possible spoilers
« on: Jan 09, 2006, 11:44 AM »
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Some priceless moments in the film.

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In approximate chronological order.

1.  When Ennis/Ledger is washing himself and Jack/Gyllenhaal gulps, tightens his jaw, and tries SO hard not to look.

2.  In the second love scene inside the tent.  Jack and Ennis kiss for the first time.  They pause in the middle of all this, trying to make it last a bit longer.

3. When Ennis collapses in the alley after parting with Jack, as if his guts are being  drawn out by the yard.

4. When Ennis' lips tremble uncontrollably when he reads Jack's first postcard after 4 years of silence.

5.  When Ennis first catches a glimpse of Jack getting out of his truck from the window of his home.  The face is suffused with a happiness that is close to tears.

6.  When the lovers embrace for the first time in 4 years.  Ennis pushes Jack against a wall and kisses him.  Jack reciprocates by pushing Ennis against a post and kisses him.  In both cases, you can tell that they are almost in tears.

7.  When Alma sees Ennis and Jack kissing.

8.  When Alma cries after Ennis leaves her for a weekend with Jack.

9.  The short idyll that begins with Jack saying 'Anything interesting up there in heaven?'  You see Ennis lying down looking up to the stars, his face full of contentment and quiet happiness.

10.  Jack's face breaking into a radiant smile after seeing Ennis arrive at the camp site.  It is a look of pure pleasure -- an intense happiness of being with Ennis.

11.  When Jack weeps in his car after being 'rejected' by Ennis after the divorce with Alma.

12.  In their last meeting: the tenor of Jack's voice when he says 'Tell you what.  The fact is... Sometimes I miss you so much that I can barely stand it.' The still small voice crackles with emotion.

13.  Jack: 'All we have...is Brokeback Mountain'.  Gyllenhaal's neck veins bulge with grief and passion in this scene.

14.  In their last meeting, Ennis turns to Jack after Jack says 'I wish I knew how to quit you.'  It clouded with tears and an indescribable pain...indeed, like clouds from a thermal spring.  'Then why don't you?  Why don't you let me be.  It's because of you Jack that I'm like this.  I'm nobody. I'm nowhere.'  You see Ennis pressing his thumbs between his eyes in his futile attempt to keep back the tears.  When he collapses in Jack's arms, you see his face contorted with pain and sadness.  This is the undisputable summit of Ledger's performance in the film.

15.  The entire 'Embrace from behind' flashback.  Jack resting his head on Ennis' arm.  Ennis' hand tracing tender arcs on Jack's collar, as he hums a half-forgotten song.  Jack looks at Ennis riding off.  There is so much tenderness and love in that look, veiled ever so slightly with a knowing sadness.  This scene is Gyllenhaal's most magical performance in the film.

16.  Gyllenhaal's last shot in the film.  So full of sadness, resignation, but also love.

17.  Jack's mother meeting Ennis outside Jack's home.  She is 'defeated and resigned.'

18.  Jack's mother, placing her arm tenderly on Ennis when she invites him to go to Jack's room.

19.  Ennis hugging the shirts in Jack's room, and inhaling on them.

20.  Ennis looking out the window with indescribable regret, after Alma Jr. affirms Kurt's love -- a regret for what he cannot have, for what he will never have...

21.  Ennis' face burning with tears as he says 'Jack, I swear...'


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Re: Priceless
« Reply #1 on: Jan 09, 2006, 01:43 PM »
Yes, I think despite Jack & Ennis' adversities, we all hope (if we haven't already found it) that we would find that special connection with a "soulmate."  For that brief period they were together (even though it spanned 20 years) they seemed to be happiest when they were together, despite their heartbreaking confrontations.  You so much want them to be happy and together, and to stop hurting the people around them that were affected from the consequence of their societal-pressured bad decisions,    :'(

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« Reply #2 on: Jan 09, 2006, 04:13 PM »
Brokeback Mountain contains numerous scenes that are touched with cinematic enchantment. Almost every scene is like a treasure. The first kiss in the tent is arguably the most passionate scene. (Love the way Ang shot it so the fire in the background danced between their lips) Ennis finding his shirt in Jack’s room is arguably the saddest moment. (It tore me apart)

But the gem... the OMEGA of Brokeback moments is the "Embrace from behind' flashback. Where it's placed in the film, in combination with the haunting music, allows it to evoke an emotional blend of melancholic saddens as well as utter bliss. The scene even feels imbued with all the emotional acuity of beautify realized tone poem. It’s the crucial, most blatant moment to render how much Ennis and Jack love each other and how their indelible bond will forever go unparalleled. A brief moment in their lives where both are fully at peace- their bodies close, gently swaying together in the mountain air. It's an achingly beautiful sequence.

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Re: Priceless - OMEGA moments
« Reply #3 on: Jan 09, 2006, 04:25 PM »
But the gem... the OMEGA of Brokeback moments is the "Embrace from behind' flashback. Where it's placed in the film, in combination with the haunting music, allows it to evoke an emotional blend of melancholic saddens as well as utter bliss. The scene even feels imbued with all the emotional acuity of beautify realized tone poem. It’s the crucial, most blatant moment to render how much Ennis and Jack love each other and how their indelible bond will forever go unparalleled. A brief moment in their lives where both are fully at peace- their bodies close, gently swaying together in the mountain air. It's an achingly beautiful sequence.

What do you think?


I so agree...though the short story and the movie show/describe this scene differently, in both cases they are very powerful!!!! Watery eyes every time for little froggy me!
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Re: Priceless - possible spoilers
« Reply #4 on: Jan 09, 2006, 10:46 PM »
TPE:  You pretty much isolated all of the ones I could remember.  But the most wonderful attraction that stays with me is this notion that you had two simple, cowboy souls who didn't have much going for them, meet up on a summer job.  No expectations, no hidden agendas, no preconceived notions of the other.  Just two fellas wanting to make ends meet and hopefully get a jump start on a new life.  But then the spectacular Wyoming mountain setting, fresh air, the splendor of what they enjoyed best in the outdoors, private conversations and working together drew them closer and established an amazing bond between the two.  Unspoken, unexpected, and yet deeply liberating for them.  Their lives were changed forever.  Stop the camera there and it's this inspiring, devoted love that neither one thought they'd ever experience.  Both deserving of each other, both needing each other.  BBM unlocks and transforms what neither thought was possible.

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Re: Priceless - possible spoilers
« Reply #5 on: Jan 09, 2006, 10:55 PM »
TPE:  You pretty much isolated all of the ones I could remember.  But the most wonderful attraction that stays with me is this notion that you had two simple, cowboy souls who didn't have much going for them, meet up on a summer job.  No expectations, no hidden agendas, no preconceived notions of the other.  Just two fellas wanting to make ends meet and hopefully get a jump start on a new life.  But then the spectacular Wyoming mountain setting, fresh air, the splendor of what they enjoyed best in the outdoors, private conversations and working together drew them closer and established an amazing bond between the two.  Unspoken, unexpected, and yet deeply liberating for them.  Their lives were changed forever.  Stop the camera there and it's this inspiring, devoted love that neither one thought they'd ever experience.  Both deserving of each other, both needing each other.  BBM unlocks and transforms what neither thought was possible.

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Re: Priceless - possible spoilers
« Reply #6 on: Jan 10, 2006, 12:35 AM »
Before I go to bed, another priceless one.  Ennis watery eyes at the divorce scene (court house).

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Re: Priceless - possible spoilers
« Reply #7 on: Jan 10, 2006, 08:28 AM »
Before I go to bed, another priceless one.  Ennis watery eyes at the divorce scene (court house).

Good night buddies!

Love from Montreal   :-*

I agree! 

It seems to me that in a way, it is hard to accuse Ennis of being unfeeling, as his portrayal by Ledger shows a sensitive, caring side in very quiet and unassuming ways. 

This is one such portrayal.  In his mind, it certainly was not Alma's fault, and he did love his daughters very much.  But he knew that Jack was the great love of his life.  In a sense, the tears are tears of resignation.  He could not fathom how things could end differently -- and there lies the tragedy of Ennis.

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Re: Priceless - possible spoilers
« Reply #8 on: Jan 10, 2006, 09:53 AM »
I totally agree with all the scenes you mentioned, I had to force myself not to think about them too much cause I'm in the middle of science class and I don't want to get watery eyes.
Some others...
when Jack is driving to Ennis' house right after he heard about the divorce. He's singing along in his truck with the careless cheeriness that only someone who is truly happy can have... it only makes it more heartbreaking when he's rejected and the truck drive him for Jack is one with a completely different atmosphere.
When Ennis and Jack first arrive at Aguirre's trailer at the beginning of the movie. Jack decides to take that particular time to shave his sideburns in the car mirror, giving him a perfect view of Ennis (of course, this is only a coincidence  ;))
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And high as the flame will rise
Cinder and smoke
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The juniper bends
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Re: Priceless - possible spoilers
« Reply #9 on: Jan 10, 2006, 09:56 AM »
I totally agree with all the scenes you mentioned, I had to force myself not to think about them too much cause I'm in the middle of science class and I don't want to get watery eyes.
Some others...
when Jack is driving to Ennis' house right after he heard about the divorce. He's singing along in his truck with the careless cheeriness that only someone who is truly happy can have... it only makes it more heartbreaking when he's rejected and the truck drive him for Jack is one with a completely different atmosphere.
When Ennis and Jack first arrive at Aguirre's trailer at the beginning of the movie. Jack decides to take that particular time to shave his sideburns in the car mirror, giving him a perfect view of Ennis (of course, this is only a coincidence  ;))

Thanks natalia for the additions!  A friend of mine also mentioned the shaving scene as distinctly memorable.  To paraphrase Gyllenhaal, it's all a kind of dance!

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Re: Priceless - possible spoilers
« Reply #10 on: Jan 18, 2006, 12:09 AM »
Talking about watery eyes. I love the scene when Ennis told Lureen where the Brokeback Mountain is. You can hear a little noice on her throat and all the sudden her eyes was filled with tears. That is an amazing acting.

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« Reply #11 on: Jan 18, 2006, 02:34 AM »
That's when she realized Ennis was more to him than just a "friend"

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« Reply #12 on: Jan 18, 2006, 09:59 PM »
That's when she realized Ennis was more to him than just a "friend"

And she is not #1, the love of his life.  :'(
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« Reply #13 on: Jan 18, 2006, 10:10 PM »
Another priceless moment, after Ennis runs after Alma on the street, she is going to do overtime, they have a big argument.

When Ennis comes back, very frustrated, his daughters are in the swing.

"you girls want a push?"

All together they say:

"No!"

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« Reply #14 on: Jan 18, 2006, 10:13 PM »
Another priceless moment, after Ennis runs after Alma on the street, she is going to do overtime, they have a big argument.

When Ennis comes back, very frustrated, his daughters are in the swing.

"you girls want a push?"

All together they say:

"No!"

 ;D

OMG, chameau, there is more than one occasion where we think alike. This just went through my mind as I was reading this. And here came your post.  :-*
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« Reply #15 on: Jan 18, 2006, 10:17 PM »
OMG?

My frog brain don't get it.

Neither my French/English dictionary.  ???

Thanks for the Spell Check by the way.  ;)
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« Reply #16 on: Jan 18, 2006, 10:19 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: Jan 18, 2006, 10:23 PM »
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OMG?


Oh My God

Duh!  :P

Indeed!

Thanks Ethan!

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« Reply #18 on: Jan 18, 2006, 10:37 PM »
Something about the last scene listed....it blows me away. I can barely handle it every time I see it, even just reading it or thinking about it too much.
Like vast clouds of steam from thermal springs in winter the years of things unsaid and now unsayable -- admissions, declarations, shames, guilts, fears -- rose around them. Ennis stood as if heart-shot, face grey and deep-lined, grimacing, eyes screwed shut, fists clenched, legs caving, hit the ground on his knees.

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« Reply #19 on: Jan 18, 2006, 10:42 PM »
Something about the last scene listed....it blows me away. I can barely handle it every time I see it, even just reading it or thinking about it too much.

I am very curious to know why? Mind sharing?  :)
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« Reply #20 on: Jan 19, 2006, 07:59 PM »
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I am very curious to know why? Mind sharing?
 

Because you can finally see into Ennis's character a little bit more, and see his passion. He truly loved Jack with everything inside him and in this scene it comes out and we begin to sense the overpowering regret felt by him because he didn't listen to his heart. If you read the last paragraph of the short story you can see this a little better. What blows me away is the overwhelming emotion felt by Ennis, and that he would probably give his life for just a few more seconds with Jack. Their love is amazing!!
Like vast clouds of steam from thermal springs in winter the years of things unsaid and now unsayable -- admissions, declarations, shames, guilts, fears -- rose around them. Ennis stood as if heart-shot, face grey and deep-lined, grimacing, eyes screwed shut, fists clenched, legs caving, hit the ground on his knees.

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« Reply #21 on: Jan 20, 2006, 08:09 AM »
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I am very curious to know why? Mind sharing?
 

Because you can finally see into Ennis's character a little bit more, and see his passion. He truly loved Jack with everything inside him and in this scene it comes out and we begin to sense the overpowering regret felt by him because he didn't listen to his heart. If you read the last paragraph of the short story you can see this a little better. What blows me away is the overwhelming emotion felt by Ennis, and that he would probably give his life for just a few more seconds with Jack. Their love is amazing!!

jackchrisopher27, you said it most beautifully.

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« Reply #22 on: Jan 21, 2006, 03:08 AM »
Talking about watery eyes. I love the scene when Ennis told Lureen where the Brokeback Mountain is. You can hear a little noice on her throat and all the sudden her eyes was filled with tears. That is an amazing acting.
Hathaway does amazing things with such a small part.  The whimpers, or croaks, or whatever it was, when she was talking to Ennis seemed to say that although she was trying to be cold toward the man she knew to be "the other woman," her heart was broken, nonetheless.

And in the Thanksgiving scene where Jack tells his father-in-law to sit down, her smile which she quickly hides, and the glance at Jack which was somewhere between approval and admiration, made me laugh out loud.

Taken together these two scenes demonstrate something missing from the book -- that Lureen truly did love Jack.

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« Reply #23 on: Jan 24, 2006, 03:45 PM »
I'm going to see it again this afternoon (#4) and want to watch carefully another moment that almost isn't:

When Jack and Lureen are dancing.  It's the "mating call" scene and they've been having fun.  But there is a moment when jack looks forward - and I felt like he was not with lureen at that moment.  There's a wistfull expression in his face as if to say "I wish this were someone else."

did anyone else sense that?

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« Reply #24 on: Jan 24, 2006, 03:54 PM »
I'm going to see it again this afternoon (#4) and want to watch carefully another moment that almost isn't:

When Jack and Lureen are dancing.  It's the "mating call" scene and they've been having fun.  But there is a moment when jack looks forward - and I felt like he was not with lureen at that moment.  There's a wistfull expression in his face as if to say "I wish this were someone else."

did anyone else sense that?


Yes, I did. :)

Personally, I though he was thinking of Ennis.

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« Reply #25 on: Jan 24, 2006, 04:02 PM »
For sure, he is ambivalent.  I think the prior rodeo clown scene makes him realize he has to repress or be outcast.
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« Reply #26 on: Jan 24, 2006, 06:02 PM »
I posted this earlier on another post, but I thought it worthwhile to add it to this one too as another priceless moment in the film.

This priceless moment takes place between #3 and #4 when Jack dances with Lureen while the song "I Don't Want to Say Goodbye" plays.  In one shot, you see him smiling at Lureen, they do a spin, and in the next shot, you see Jack with his face right beside Lureen looking sadly into the distance, thinking about how much he misses Ennis and wished that he could be holding him instead.  Even then, it showed him how much he loved him.  That's one of the most potent scenes in the movie.  ; ;

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« Reply #27 on: Jan 24, 2006, 10:17 PM »
********* SPOILER ALERT *********
Some priceless moments in the film.
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19.  Ennis hugging the shirts in Jack's room, and inhaling on them.

This scene made me cry in the theater.  Also, when Ennis carries the shirts back down to the kitchen, Jack Twist's mother communicated to Ennis with a nod and her facial expression that he could take the shirts.  There was a connection between Ennis and Jack's mother.  They knew they could not verbalize their thougts -- with the very onery and angry Mr. Twist in the room.  This moment was extremely emotional for me.

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Quote from: tpe on Jan 09, 2006, 11:44 AM
********* SPOILER ALERT *********
Some priceless moments in the film.
Feel free to add to the list and comment on them.
19.  Ennis hugging the shirts in Jack's room, and inhaling on them.

This scene made me cry in the theater.  Also, when Ennis carries the shirts back down to the kitchen, Jack Twist's mother communicated to Ennis with a nod and her facial expression that he could take the shirts.  There was a connection between Ennis and Jack's mother.  They knew they could not verbalize their thougts -- with the very onery and angry Mr. Twist in the room.  This moment was extremely emotional for me.

Sob!  :'(

You are not the only one.  Roberta Maxwell (Jack's mother) does there an astounding piece of acting.

She deserves an Award nomination.  Like the whole cast in BBM, wow, the unspoken language!  She is just overwhelming.

Sob!  :'(

Now I cry again posting this.  :'( :'( :'(


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« Reply #29 on: Jan 24, 2006, 10:27 PM »
Every scene mentioned is priceless and stands out for its own merits.  It's why I'm so impressed with this film.  The actors convey so much emotion without complicated dialog. As a result the viewer is able understand and FEEL the passion and pain depicted throughout the story. BBM is going to be hard act follow for any film maker who hopes to one day touch the heart of the public.

Personally speaking...it's going to be a long time before I can fully absorb this film's emotional impact and function normally again.

(OMG!! I've got to survive the release of the DVD too!  :o)

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