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« Reply #270 on: Mar 04, 2006, 04:45 PM »
Hi Russianman!

I like what you say about the scenes when the two are sitting by the fire. So much love is conveyed just through looks. It is also what makes the movie so strong: Most of it is in the way people in this movie look at each other. Not only Jack and Ennis, but Alma and Ennis, Randall and Jack, the Rodeo Clown and Jack, Aguirre and his binoculars, Jack and Ennis across the mountain, when they are in different camps. I could go on and on.

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« Reply #271 on: Mar 04, 2006, 04:50 PM »

Ennis feels so natural around Jack, the expression of his face can be so mild and funny. He cannot say it with words but with his eyes...! The way he looks at Jack when they sit at the fire! Jack is the only friend and only love that Ennis has.

You said it, Russianman ! I think my eyes are getting watery again....

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« Reply #272 on: Mar 04, 2006, 05:36 PM »
Hi Russianman!

I like what you say about the scenes when the two are sitting by the fire. So much love is conveyed just through looks. It is also what makes the movie so strong: Most of it is in the way people in this movie look at each other. Not only Jack and Ennis, but Alma and Ennis, Randall and Jack, the Rodeo Clown and Jack, Aguirre and his binoculars, Jack and Ennis across the mountain, when they are in different camps. I could go on and on.

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Yes, Moncita! ANd this is the greatness of the film! It is long time ago that I have seen SUCH acting. Actors just live the lives of their charachters. Heath and Jake should get OScars!!!!!

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« Reply #273 on: Mar 04, 2006, 06:22 PM »
Well said, Russianman!  This is one of the most beautiful aspects of the film:  Jack's ability to penetrate through the wall of fear that keeps Ennis locked away from the rest of the world.  It's wondrous, and Heath is superb in translating this to the screen.

We all should have a friend in our lives who inspires total acceptance.  To be seen in such light and to give such a gift is love itself.

Proulx says it well in her story when she writes:

"They were respectful of each other's opinions, each glad to have a companion where none had been expected.  Ennis, riding against the wind back to the sheep in the treacherous, drunken light, thought he'd never had such a good time, felt he could paw the white out of the moon."
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« Reply #274 on: Mar 04, 2006, 09:00 PM »
damn...how could i not nominate the opening line???

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lol I laugh everytime I hear this! Randy Quaid did a great job of Aguirre. :)
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« Reply #275 on: Mar 07, 2006, 03:19 PM »
I posted this as one of the little things I admired in the movie.  It is also a moving quote.

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The last words that we hear Heath Ledger say to Jake Gyllenhaal on-screen (during the flashback).

'Got to go...see you in the morning.'   

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« Reply #276 on: Mar 07, 2006, 04:10 PM »
damn...how could i not nominate the opening line???

AGUIREE:  IF YOU PAIR O' DEUCES ARE LOOKING FOR WORK,
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lol I laugh everytime I hear this! Randy Quaid did a great job of Aguirre. :)

He did...I can't help but think of the difference of him in national lampoons christmas holiday and here...man he can act
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« Reply #277 on: Mar 07, 2006, 04:36 PM »

The last words that we hear Heath Ledger say to Jake Gyllenhaal on-screen (during the flashback).

'Got to go...see you in the morning.'   

:'(

tpe, that is indeed a very beautiful and PBS quote. Ennis is saying to Jack that he'll be back... he'll always be back.  :-[

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« Reply #278 on: Mar 07, 2006, 07:49 PM »

The last words that we hear Heath Ledger say to Jake Gyllenhaal on-screen (during the flashback).

'Got to go...see you in the morning.'   

:'(

tpe, that is indeed a very beautiful and PBS quote. Ennis is saying to Jack that he'll be back... he'll always be back.  :-[

We are thinking the same thing, stephan.  Thanks.

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« Reply #279 on: Mar 08, 2006, 08:41 AM »
Oh, you make me cry. Because nobody can ever know if he will see his or her beloved again. Anything might happen. Actually, that is one reason why some people break off relationships: They would rather be alone than live through the pain of losing someone. And Ennis has to live through this horror, plus the horror of not knowing what really happened. God, here I go again  :'(

I must say, all those "wordless" quotes are my favourites: The scenes by the fire, the look between Ennis and Jack's mother, when he leaves with the shirts, lonely Ennis at the fourth of July picknick, but most of all:  the look in Jack's eyes, when Ennis is driving away for the very last time. So beautiful and mournful, the juxtaposition of the flashback scene and this goodbye. Sniff.

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« Reply #280 on: Mar 08, 2006, 08:48 AM »
but most of all:  the look in Jack's eyes, when Ennis is driving away for the very last time. So beautiful and mournful, the juxtaposition of the flashback scene and this goodbye. Sniff.

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« Reply #281 on: Mar 08, 2006, 08:57 AM »
tpe, monicita, your thoughts are giving me such pleasure... the kind that a good cry might help, of course !  :-*

I'm thinking of that first day, just before they go up to the mountain with the sheep, Ennis looks at Jack who's trying to stay on the horse. They have scarcely spoken to each other, but that look could mean so many things. For example, admiration.

Stephan  :-\

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« Reply #282 on: Mar 08, 2006, 09:05 AM »
God reading all these are making me cry  :'( and I had just posted a post saying I thought I was getting back to normal, how wrong could I be?! There's just so many amazing scenes and quotes, and they're all so beautiful. The bit that really got me in the cinema (was sobbing, it was embarrassing! I was the only one audibly crying!  :-[ ) was when Ennis finds the shirts. And of course, the flashback scene and also the bit where Jack and Ennis are in the tent about to kiss and sort of holding each others' heads. That gets to me to for some reason. Lauren x

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« Reply #283 on: Mar 08, 2006, 09:22 AM »
tpe, monicita, your thoughts are giving me such pleasure... the kind that a good cry might help, of course !  :-*

I'm thinking of that first day, just before they go up to the mountain with the sheep, Ennis looks at Jack who's trying to stay on the horse. They have scarcely spoken to each other, but that look could mean so many things. For example, admiration.

Stephan  :-

Stephan,     As a horserider myself,  I think Jack was doing some of his rodeo moves in this scene - riding a bucking bronco?   Not an expert on this kind of riding, but that was my interpretation.  Maybe trying to impress Ennis.  I think Ennis was laughing inside reconfirming his dad's opinion, "Rodeo guys are all f--ups."  (Not an exact quote)  Many people  seem to think that Ennis looks at Jack with sexual interest and to interpret much of what he says as "flirting" much earlier in the movie than I do.  I think that he just enjoys Jack's company and feels comfortable enough around Jack to let his guard down to reveal the charming individual within.  I really don't think he ever thinks of Jack in that light until Jack makes his move.  I think it is so ooutside of Ennis' reality, that the thought would never enter his mind at least not consciously.  I don't think he was ever sexually aattracted to Jack before the first tent scene.  He fell in love with Jack, the person, not in lust with Jack, the sex object.  Maybe, I am just being naive?
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« Reply #284 on: Mar 08, 2006, 09:29 AM »
I really don't think he ever thinks of Jack in that light until Jack makes his move.  I think it is so ooutside of Ennis' reality, that the thought would never enter his mind at least not consciously.  I don't think he was ever sexually aattracted to Jack before the first tent scene.  He fell in love with Jack, the person, not in lust with Jack, the sex object.  Maybe, I am just being naive?
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Bonjour, Nancy ! Your point is also my point of view, actually. "Sex with Jack" was not an option the first day (not in the film, anyway, I still haven't read the story which I bought more than a month ago). Friendship, however, can be born and start to grow in a matter of minutes. I thought Ennis's look might be interpreted as admiration in the sense : it might not be so bad having to spend the summer working with this person." Stephan

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« Reply #285 on: Mar 08, 2006, 09:44 AM »

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Bonjour, Nancy ! Your point is also my point of view, actually. "Sex with Jack" was not an option the first day (not in the film, anyway, I still haven't read the story which I bought more than a month ago). Friendship, however, can be born and start to grow in a matter of minutes. I thought Ennis's look might be interpreted as admiration in the sense : it might not be so bad having to spend the summer working with this person." Stephan
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Hi Stephan,  The story doesn't indicate any sexual interest on Ennis' part prior to their first coupling to the best of my recollection.  But then again I don't know that Anne mentions any longing on Jack's part either, and I see this in the film.  I thought it was great that Ange Lee credits not only all the principals involved in the story and film, but Ennis and Jack as well.  That really got me.  They are so real to me.  I have  a hard time remembering they are just fictional characters.             :)                                     - Nancy

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« Reply #286 on: Mar 08, 2006, 10:36 AM »

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Bonjour, Nancy ! Your point is also my point of view, actually. "Sex with Jack" was not an option the first day (not in the film, anyway, I still haven't read the story which I bought more than a month ago). Friendship, however, can be born and start to grow in a matter of minutes. I thought Ennis's look might be interpreted as admiration in the sense : it might not be so bad having to spend the summer working with this person." Stephan
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Hi Stephan,  The story doesn't indicate any sexual interest on Ennis' part prior to their first coupling to the best of my recollection.  But then again I don't know that Anne mentions any longing on Jack's part either, and I see this in the film.  I thought it was great that Ange Lee credits not only all the principals involved in the story and film, but Ennis and Jack as well.  That really got me.  They are so real to me.  I have  a hard time remembering they are just fictional characters.             :)                                     - Nancy

I also think that the at start the boys are getting to know each other and like each other as friends. Ennis would never even let sx with Jack enter his mind. It's only when Jack takes his hand that the sexual chemistry erupts, and with what passion.

I love this, people always say to me that (when I was younger ) I always went out with people who I was friends with first. I think you can love a person without the sexual attraction being there at first.

This is why the movie hit home with me, the realism of the situation and with which Heath and Jake played it, rang more true with me than any other formulaic love story before it on film.

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« Reply #287 on: Mar 08, 2006, 01:03 PM »

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Bonjour, Nancy ! Your point is also my point of view, actually. "Sex with Jack" was not an option the first day (not in the film, anyway, I still haven't read the story which I bought more than a month ago). Friendship, however, can be born and start to grow in a matter of minutes. I thought Ennis's look might be interpreted as admiration in the sense : it might not be so bad having to spend the summer working with this person." Stephan


I also think that the at start the boys are getting to know each other and like each other as friends. Ennis would never even let sx with Jack enter his mind. It's only when Jack takes his hand that the sexual chemistry erupts, and with what passion.

I love this, people always say to me that (when I was younger ) I always went out with people who I was friends with first. I think you can love a person without the sexual attraction being there at first.

This is why the movie hit home with me, the realism of the situation and with which Heath and Jake played it, rang more true with me than any other formulaic love story before it on film.

Tom
Tom,  I think you are so right.   Perhaps the frindship first theory is more prevalent in gay relationship?  (I am not gay)  Does that sound stupid?  We are all different and enter relationships differently despite our orientations.

This is what makes Enn's love SO special to me, even more so than Jack's.  It defies his whole being.  He goes against everything he's ever known to express his love for Jack.  Truly enchanting!   Thanks for sharing                      - Nancy

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« Reply #288 on: Mar 08, 2006, 02:52 PM »
I think that there was interest, even from Ennis' part, but he didn't know what it was. the first night was just a f***, but the second night was the beginning of love.

Mayby OT here but just wanted to put in my two bits here :)
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« Reply #289 on: Mar 08, 2006, 08:16 PM »
Esme,  That second night was just beautiful.  I think you are right.                     - Nancy

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« Reply #290 on: Mar 09, 2006, 12:05 AM »
one of my favorites quotes is "i got a baby, 8 months, smiles a lot" i just remembered the faces of Ennis when he heard that he was so surprised to hear that

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« Reply #291 on: Mar 10, 2006, 05:52 PM »
Here's another wordless "quote" that I rediscovered with immense pleasure at my last viewing : the smile on Jack's face while Ennis is talking and talking by the campfire - the smile that Ennis notices, and Jack has to explain : "that's more words than you've spoken in 2 weeks."
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« Reply #292 on: Mar 10, 2006, 06:00 PM »
damn...how could i not nominate the opening line???

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That's a great quote.

Although the very first word uttered in the movie is Jack saying "shit" when he kcks his truck.
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« Reply #293 on: Mar 10, 2006, 06:13 PM »
Here's another wordless "quote" that I rediscovered with immense pleasure at my last viewing : the smile on Jack's face while Ennis is talking and talking by the campfire - the smile that Ennis notices, and Jack has to explain : "that's more words than you've spoken in 2 weeks."
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YES! That little curl of the lip - so endearing.

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« Reply #294 on: Mar 10, 2006, 06:28 PM »
Here's another wordless "quote" that I rediscovered with immense pleasure at my last viewing : the smile on Jack's face while Ennis is talking and talking by the campfire - the smile that Ennis notices, and Jack has to explain : "that's more words than you've spoken in 2 weeks."
Stephan
YES! That little curl of the lip - so endearing.

it is damn sexy, I think Ennis sees that too...and it is typical of Jake, the best bits are the unspoken ones
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« Reply #295 on: Mar 10, 2006, 09:18 PM »
Hi everyone!  Saw the movie again today and am still perplexed in the second tent scene - a beautiful scene.  Someone says, "I'm sorry.  I"m sorry."  And someone responds, "It's alright."  Who says what?                      - Nancy
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« Reply #296 on: Mar 10, 2006, 09:23 PM »
The quote is directly out of the story and IMHO is the turning point where they go from being two guys working together for the summer to being friends enjoying each other's company. The rest is like dominoes falling against each other finding an end.
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« Reply #297 on: Mar 10, 2006, 10:37 PM »
Hi evaeryone!  Saw the movie again today and am still perplexed in the second tent scene - a beautiful scene.  Someone says, "I'm sorry.  I"m sorry."  And someone responds, "It's alright."  Who says what?                      - Nancy

Nancy, after they kiss Ennis says, "I'm sorry....I'm so sorry" and Jack replies with a nod, "It's ok."

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« Reply #298 on: Mar 10, 2006, 10:44 PM »
Hi evaeryone!  Saw the movie again today and am still perplexed in the second tent scene - a beautiful scene.  Someone says, "I'm sorry.  I"m sorry."  And someone responds, "It's alright."  Who says what?                      - Nancy

Nancy, after they kiss Ennis says, "I'm sorry....I'm so sorry" and Jack replies with a nod, "It's ok."



Patriot 1,  Thank you for clarifying that.  What do you think he is apologizing for?  The night before?  Wanting him again?   Thanks.   -  Nancy

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« Reply #299 on: Mar 10, 2006, 10:46 PM »
Not what I heard...there were 3 "It's OK" and no "I'm sorry"....I really wanted to agree with all of ya' ...but will believe the subtitles when I see them...and stay on my 'ears' side for the time being.
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