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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #480 on: Jul 11, 2006, 03:42 PM »
The first time I hear it is when Jack lowers his head down to the tent floor . He makes a long fffffffff.... sound first, then he says it . COLD SHOWERS IN STORE.
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #481 on: Jul 11, 2006, 04:09 PM »
If, as it appears from the screenplay, these are Jake's additions, it says a great deal about his understanding of the feelings involved in the situation.
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #482 on: Jul 11, 2006, 04:19 PM »
Quote from: welshwitch on Jul 11, 2006, 04:09 PM
If, as it appears from the screenplay, these are Jake's additions, it says a great deal about his understanding of the feelings involved in the situation.

Ang Lee encourages his actors to IMPROVISE a lot
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #483 on: Jul 11, 2006, 06:43 PM »
May I say how truly impressed I am by the level of thoroughness and research included by this, the very best thread I have EVER read. **Gets choked up** After reading 17 PAGES, I must say Ang Lee, the consummate professional known and admired for his attention to the most minute detail -- would I'm certain be touched by how all of you embraced his work ethic, leaving no stone unturned in your pursuit of truth. **Wipes a tear** Even to the point of giving up organs, eardrums, etc....

This being my very first time reading this thread, and seeing some of the findings and evidence collected herein, I do make a solemn vow  to of course run out and buy a FS edition ( I have WS  :\'(), and supersonic earbuds post-haste in order to further advance the research started by my esteemed colleagues.

If I may add to this discussion....I thought Ennis had one of those sleep hard-ons (crude, sorry) that I hear men get and that might have "nudged" Jack awake. As for the reason why Jack takes his jacket off, I think he is deliberately giving Ennis time to either slug him or go for brokeback, as it were. Plus,the jacket toss  looks like a little Jack Nasty striptease which of course leads up to the one handed belt move which has us all shaking in the nether regions. In contrast, my own research shows Ennis' less deliberate and kind of fumbling with his zipper is just so hot -- although he gets over the nerves right quick when he does that masterful bronco flip and peels Jack's jeans down. Umm...err...must do more research this very minute...maybe add more later......
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #484 on: Jul 12, 2006, 02:34 AM »
Quote from: smilesalot on Jul 11, 2006, 06:43 PM
May I say how truly impressed I am by the level of thoroughness and research included by this, the very best thread I have EVER read. **Gets choked up** After reading 17 PAGES, I must say Ang Lee, the consummate professional known and admired for his attention to the most minute detail -- would I'm certain be touched by how all of you embraced his work ethic, leaving no stone unturned in your pursuit of truth. **Wipes a tear** Even to the point of giving up organs, eardrums, etc....

This being my very first time reading this thread, and seeing some of the findings and evidence collected herein, I do make a solemn vow  to of course run out and buy a FS edition ( I have WS  :\'(), and supersonic earbuds post-haste in order to further advance the research started by my esteemed colleagues.

If I may add to this discussion....I thought Ennis had one of those sleep hard-ons (crude, sorry) that I hear men get and that might have "nudged" Jack awake. As for the reason why Jack takes his jacket off, I think he is deliberately giving Ennis time to either slug him or go for brokeback, as it were. Plus,the jacket toss  looks like a little Jack Nasty striptease which of course leads up to the one handed belt move which has us all shaking in the nether regions. In contrast, my own research shows Ennis' less deliberate and kind of fumbling with his zipper is just so hot -- although he gets over the nerves right quick when he does that masterful bronco flip and peels Jack's jeans down. Umm...err...must do more research this very minute...maybe add more later......

 :8 :8 :8 Love it, smilesalot.

Watched the FNIT with my earbuds last night, and the volume cranked right up.....and I still can't hear Jack say "f*ck me". I hear a lot of grunting and groaning and quite a few "fffff" noises, but no real words :-\\
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #485 on: Jul 12, 2006, 03:47 AM »
Quote from: gimmejack on Jul 11, 2006, 04:36 AM
headphones...good tip! is this the naughty little brokies thread???!!!
Only with the headphones..you can hear it...volume on max...and enjoy...!!!   #)
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #486 on: Jul 12, 2006, 05:32 AM »


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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #487 on: Jul 12, 2006, 07:15 AM »
Okay, in the interest of collecting useful data, I grabbed some headphones and redlined it over to my BBM DVD.

OMG. THANK YOU THANK YOU for suggesting the headphones. It's like I'm in the tent!!!  :P :t) Plus the headphones kind of cut down on the ambient noise of my own heavy breathing.  >:D

I agree, I unselfishly watched the FNIT...uh...maybe 20 times? .... and I heard a lot of "FFFF..." and some "F**ck" but no "F**ck me". Not really disappointed though, the whole scene is hot enough. I did see Jack reach his right hand back, and I'm thinking he grabs Ennis' ass to urge him on. (as if he needed any more encouragement!!) Obviously Ennis' left hand was clutching at Jack's shirt, and I think his right hand must have been on the floor/blanket, to help stabilize him and increase...uhh....momentum. IMO that's why Jack clutches at it at the end....since he didn't have a bedpost to hold on to and grabbing a tent pole would have been disaster....his hand blindly reaching out for something to hang on to for dear life as the gun went off and -- heck -- Ennis' hand/arm seemed a fairly obvious choice.

Oh and I heard the forehead thud!! I only watched BBM 3 weeks ago -- and only joined here less than a week -- so you have all opened up a whole new world for me! Thank you, thank you oh Brokie Mountain Masters. I have much to learn.....must do more research........ ::)
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #488 on: Jul 12, 2006, 07:23 AM »
Quote from: smilesalot on Jul 12, 2006, 07:15 AM
I only watched BBM 3 weeks ago -- and only joined here less than a week -- so you have all opened up a whole new world for me! Thank you, thank you oh Brokie Mountain Masters. I have much to learn.....must do more research........ ::)

Totally OT, but have you tried slo-mo-ing the reunion kiss yet? I think you'll enjoy that :P
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #489 on: Jul 12, 2006, 07:36 AM »
Well, I conducted some more research of my own last night, and I definitely heard the first one Twisted mentioned, after the "come on...come on...".I'd never noticed it before,but no headphones needed ;) ;D Actually, I can hear all of it without headphones, I suppose it's just a case of knowing when to expect it. Does anyone else hear Jack say "f*** me" when he's unbuckling his belt, cause I'm beginning to think it's just my dirty mind imagining it! :-[ Admittedly, he says it in a low voice, more of a whisper,but I could swear he says it! ???
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #490 on: Jul 12, 2006, 07:36 AM »
Oh yes...the slow mo thing I discovered a few days ago, ESPECIALLY for the reunion scene. Sorry to continue the OT but the Reunion Scene has such and IMPACT, like stars colliding.
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #491 on: Jul 12, 2006, 07:41 AM »
Quote from: smilesalot on Jul 11, 2006, 06:43 PM
May I say how truly impressed I am by the level of thoroughness and research included by this, the very best thread I have EVER read. **Gets choked up** After reading 17 PAGES, I must say Ang Lee, the consummate professional known and admired for his attention to the most minute detail -- would I'm certain be touched by how all of you embraced his work ethic, leaving no stone unturned in your pursuit of truth. **Wipes a tear** Even to the point of giving up organs, eardrums, etc....

This being my very first time reading this thread, and seeing some of the findings and evidence collected herein, I do make a solemn vow  to of course run out and buy a FS edition ( I have WS  :\'(), and supersonic earbuds post-haste in order to further advance the research started by my esteemed colleagues.

If I may add to this discussion....I thought Ennis had one of those sleep hard-ons (crude, sorry) that I hear men get and that might have "nudged" Jack awake. As for the reason why Jack takes his jacket off, I think he is deliberately giving Ennis time to either slug him or go for brokeback, as it were. Plus,the jacket toss  looks like a little Jack Nasty striptease which of course leads up to the one handed belt move which has us all shaking in the nether regions. In contrast, my own research shows Ennis' less deliberate and kind of fumbling with his zipper is just so hot -- although he gets over the nerves right quick when he does that masterful bronco flip and peels Jack's jeans down. Umm...err...must do more research this very minute...maybe add more later......

LMAO, smilesalot!  Welcome . . . you'll fit right in here.  I love your description of the "bronco flip."  Well, Ennis did tell of his bronco riding days.  What was it, three seconds?  Hell, I thought we'd determined it was 27 seconds.   ;D  Anyway, Ennis sure did hang onto Jack's shirt for dear life, like once he got a hold, he wasn't letting go.  I love the way Jack clutches Ennis' hand at the end and pulls it to him as he collapses.  It's as if Jack needed Ennis to know how much he enjoyed it, too.  Good Lord, I need to take another cold shower and then sit in front of the fan full blast . . .  :d)
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #492 on: Jul 12, 2006, 07:55 AM »
Well, you know, Ennis did say his Dad was a good roper. Maybe he did learn a few tricks from watching dear old dad roping them calves. Wonder what Ennis woulda done if he had a rope lying around....hmmm....gimme a sec...gotta dive in the pool...
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #493 on: Jul 12, 2006, 09:39 AM »
I'm smiling Alot. Obviously it is Ennis,s first time,and when he first stsarts the throw down ....... the look on his face is priceless ...it's like  DAMN! Thisi is GOOD!Then holds on for ride .
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #494 on: Jul 12, 2006, 09:44 AM »
Well heck...look who he was throwing down. Geez, can't get those jeans off fast enough.
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #495 on: Jul 12, 2006, 09:58 AM »
 Jack is hardcore aint he?  Make a snowman melt!  SMILES.
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #496 on: Jul 12, 2006, 10:40 AM »
Quote from: smilesalot on Jul 12, 2006, 09:44 AM
Well heck...look who he was throwing down. Geez, can't get those jeans off fast enough.

I thought Jack gave a little leap onto the floor as Ennis flipped him.  Jack couldn't get on those knees fast enough.  Had that belt unbuckled and was ready for anything.  I think Jack unbuckling that belt turned on Ennis' horny switch full blast.  Well, it sure flipped my horny switch on!   :i  :d)
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #497 on: Jul 12, 2006, 04:45 PM »
Hmm, as part of my commitment to the Brokeback Research Institute I will have to pursue further investigation in order to come up with some conclusive evidence for the Ennis bronco flip vs. Jack rodeo twist. IMO there was probably a lot of momentum from both sides. Cuz Jack looked like he flopped down as a easy as a World Cup Soccer player (in an effort to be politically correct I will not mention any specific teams...) and Ennis wasn't too far behind. Uh...well...obviously...actually pretty close behind...I mean...uhhh....bucket of ice, anyone?
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #498 on: Jul 12, 2006, 09:27 PM »
Quote from: smilesalot on Jul 12, 2006, 04:45 PM
Hmm, as part of my commitment to the Brokeback Research Institute I will have to pursue further investigation in order to come up with some conclusive evidence for the Ennis bronco flip vs. Jack rodeo twist. IMO there was probably a lot of momentum from both sides. Cuz Jack looked like he flopped down as a easy as a World Cup Soccer player (in an effort to be politically correct I will not mention any specific teams...) and Ennis wasn't too far behind. Uh...well...obviously...actually pretty close behind...I mean...uhhh....bucket of ice, anyone?

LMAO!  Yes, pass that bucket of ice so I can dump it over my head.  Please continue this groundbreaking and earth shattering research on the bronco flip vs. the rodeo twist.  I bet if we slo-mo'ed it and zoomed in, we could go pages on this topic alone!  There was enough momentum in that tent that I'm surprised it didn't walk off the mountain under its own volition.  Oh, wait, so that's why Ennis held onto Jack's back, for fear his velocity would launch Jack straight out of that tent . . . ;D
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #499 on: Jul 12, 2006, 09:50 PM »
Quote from: stacp on Jul 12, 2006, 09:27 PM
Quote from: smilesalot on Jul 12, 2006, 04:45 PM
Hmm, as part of my commitment to the Brokeback Research Institute I will have to pursue further investigation in order to come up with some conclusive evidence for the Ennis bronco flip vs. Jack rodeo twist. IMO there was probably a lot of momentum from both sides. Cuz Jack looked like he flopped down as a easy as a World Cup Soccer player (in an effort to be politically correct I will not mention any specific teams...) and Ennis wasn't too far behind. Uh...well...obviously...actually pretty close behind...I mean...uhhh....bucket of ice, anyone?

LMAO!  Yes, pass that bucket of ice so I can dump it over my head.  Please continue this groundbreaking and earth shattering research on the bronco flip vs. the rodeo twist.  I bet if we slo-mo'ed it and zoomed in, we could go pages on this topic alone!  There was enough momentum in that tent that I'm surprised it didn't walk off the mountain under its own volition.  Oh, wait, so that's why Ennis held onto Jack's back, for fear his velocity would launch Jack straight out of that tent . . . ;D

 :8 :8 :8 :8

Oh, good lord, stacp, what a visual you just gave me, lol.   Jack was in control of this night.  He knew what he wanted and went for it.  No wonder he kept going back for all those years.  Makes me wonder how long he had gotten some good loving before Ennis plowed his 40 acres. 
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #500 on: Jul 12, 2006, 10:02 PM »
I don't think I've posted here before, but I will have to read the previous pages!  I just dying to turn on the DVD after reading the posts just from today!! :d)
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #501 on: Jul 12, 2006, 11:01 PM »
I think the key to this whole discussion is the much lauded (especially by Ang Lee, who thought it was very "brave") fist pounding on the floor by our man Jack. I believe this does provide conclusive evidence that a rodeo twist was DEFINITELY at play here, although this does not diminish the intensity of the very masterful bronco flip performed by the young and untried Ennis.

I will concur with my esteemed colleague stacp that Ennis had to grab fistfuls on Jack's back in order to anchor himself so as not propel them out of the tent into the cold night air...which, as we know, was the reason why Ennis was in this predicKament (oops did I misspell that?)  in the FIRST PLACE! Actually, upon reflection, Ennis was probably anchoring himself with something else...ahem..another...ummm...appendage shall we say and maybe he just had to hold on to Jack's shirt because he knew the tent wasn't too stable and it just "didn't look quite right" before he entered into his evening of drunken revelry.

Having laid (sorry, couldn't resist) that issue to rest, can someone PLEASE  ;D  give me a reason to continue my research? I mean, where WAS Jack's harmonica during this whole scene??!! Inquiring minds want to know! Because, you know, I don't MIND watching FNIT a few more times frame by painstaking frame  to see if I can seen an OUTLINE of it sticking out of someone's shirt or coat or ...ahem...jeans or something. No really, I don't mind. (as Smiles surreptiously gets her earphones out ......)
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #502 on: Jul 12, 2006, 11:53 PM »
Quote from: smilesalot on Jul 12, 2006, 11:01 PM
Having laid (sorry, couldn't resist) that issue to rest, can someone PLEASE  ;D  give me a reason to continue my research? I mean, where WAS Jack's harmonica during this whole scene??!! Inquiring minds want to know! Because, you know, I don't MIND watching FNIT a few more times frame by painstaking frame  to see if I can seen an OUTLINE of it sticking out of someone's shirt or coat or ...ahem...jeans or something. No really, I don't mind. (as Smiles surreptiously gets her earphones out ......)

Sure enough..I think, smilesalot, you must  study this a little bit farther..  :8
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #503 on: Jul 13, 2006, 04:08 AM »
Lookin for a reason? Jack and aennis save us money on our gas bills by forcing us to  take COLD showers. Is it hot in here or what?
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #504 on: Jul 13, 2006, 04:12 AM »
Quote from: aintfoolin on Jul 13, 2006, 04:08 AM
Lookin for a reason? Jack and aennis save us money on our gas bills by forcing us to  take COLD showers. Is it hot in here or what?

Hot? Huh, we're only getting to lukewarm here - check out the Horniest Jake Scene thread if you want hot ;D
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #505 on: Jul 13, 2006, 05:15 AM »
Am I the only one round here who feels sorry for the cameraman in this sequence and SNIT?
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #506 on: Jul 13, 2006, 05:27 AM »
Quote from: welshwitch on Jul 13, 2006, 05:15 AM
Am I the only one round here who feels sorry for the cameraman in this sequence and SNIT?

Sorry? No. Jealous? Yep ;) :P
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #507 on: Jul 13, 2006, 07:13 AM »
Sorry he had to keep his hands steady. Sorry he had to duct tape his mouth together to keep the drool off the camera. I mean, how can ANYONE, witness the many excellent maneuvres in this scene -- the sneaky Jack hand grab, the Ennis fight or f**ck pop-up, the slinky Jack coat throw, Jack's patented one-hand belt flick, Ennis bronco flip/Jack rodeo twist, Ennis' no-reins-so-you're-shirts-gonna-have-to-do left-handed clutch, Jack's vein poppin' ggo fist on floor pound.....Uh...what was my point again? Oh yah, cameraman. Who cares about him? IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME! ME!!!!!!! (goes into ugly cry, sobbing pitifully)....
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #508 on: Jul 13, 2006, 07:49 AM »
Are you talking about my husband?Aw shucks Jake , and I thought I was the only one. Just wait till you get home buddy.
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #509 on: Jul 13, 2006, 11:02 AM »
Quote from: smilesalot on Jul 13, 2006, 07:13 AM
Sorry he had to keep his hands steady. Sorry he had to duct tape his mouth together to keep the drool off the camera. I mean, how can ANYONE, witness the many excellent maneuvres in this scene -- the sneaky Jack hand grab, the Ennis fight or f**ck pop-up, the slinky Jack coat throw, Jack's patented one-hand belt flick, Ennis bronco flip/Jack rodeo twist, Ennis' no-reins-so-you're-shirts-gonna-have-to-do left-handed clutch, Jack's vein poppin' ggo fist on floor pound.....Uh...what was my point again? Oh yah, cameraman. Who cares about him? IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME! ME!!!!!!! (goes into ugly cry, sobbing pitifully)....

LMAO  :8 :8 :8 good one!
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