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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #90 on: May 01, 2006, 10:38 AM »
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Well no but if someone ask me i can say i'm searching for something, my dad is thinking in sending me to therapy i watch the movie every day in the morning like my daily break fast btw if i'm not mistaking he was holding Ennis' hand but hte screen cap would telll!!!!

yeah, I can just imagine your dad's face when he walks in and finds you looking closely at the FNIT scene with all the breating and the grunting and rewinding it over and over again... and he asks "Carlos what's that?" and you say "oh, I'm only searching for something"... ROTFLMAO!!!  Sorry, it just cracks me up...  ;D ;D ;D ;) ;) ;)

As for the photo - finally it's not so dark, I can see something!! but it's not exactly clear... is he holding Ennis/Heath's hand? it seems to me more like he's grabbing his sleeve.



Ok keren_B you just gave another excuse!!! i'll make sure to get this scene right!!!! so wait for me until i come back from work about the quality well that is as far as the movie itself goes all the other screencaps are fine but this scene is the one that i don't get why it is like that!  ::) ::)
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #91 on: May 01, 2006, 11:10 AM »
keren - I'm glad you said that. I'm not totally sure he's holding Ennis's hand either - seemed to me that he just grabs his arm. I've watched it several times over (in the interests of research, obviously!) and it's really pretty dark and hard to tell.
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #92 on: May 01, 2006, 04:43 PM »
As for the photo - finally it's not so dark, I can see something!! but it's not exactly clear... is he holding Ennis/Heath's hand? it seems to me more like he's grabbing his sleeve.

Yes, I agree with you Keren_b.  You can see Ennis' thumb and fingers (which are curled inward) and Jack's hand is on the outside of them near the sleeve of Ennis's coat.

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #93 on: May 01, 2006, 07:15 PM »
Uhm...watching that youtube clip just made me notice something abou FNIT... Ennis lies down and Jack gets comfy, he looks up very quickly then closes his eyes...like he isn't sure he really got Ennis next to him :)
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #94 on: May 01, 2006, 07:18 PM »
and yes they are holding hands
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #95 on: May 01, 2006, 08:04 PM »
Uhm...watching that youtube clip just made me notice something abou FNIT... Ennis lies down and Jack gets comfy, he looks up very quickly then closes his eyes...like he isn't sure he really got Ennis next to him :)

it watched that!!!!!!
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #96 on: May 03, 2006, 10:05 PM »
As for the photo - finally it's not so dark, I can see something!! but it's not exactly clear... is he holding Ennis/Heath's hand? it seems to me more like he's grabbing his sleeve.

Yes, I agree with you Keren_b.  You can see Ennis' thumb and fingers (which are curled inward) and Jack's hand is on the outside of them near the sleeve of Ennis's coat.



Looks to me like he is holding Ennis's hand.  Holding on for dear life !
This was a very realistic scene ! ;)

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #97 on: May 04, 2006, 05:31 AM »
I watched the movie again last night, and I couldn't hear what Ennis says right before they get it on hehe :) when they are facing each other..I had the volume turned up but and I know he said something but I missed it..I did hear alot of grunting and heaving and Jack hitting the floor of the tent with his hand..and lots of noice..:)

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #98 on: May 04, 2006, 06:03 AM »
I watched the movie again last night, and I couldn't hear what Ennis says right before they get it on hehe :) when they are facing each other..I had the volume turned up but and I know he said something but I missed it..I did hear alot of grunting and heaving and Jack hitting the floor of the tent with his hand..and lots of noice..:)

Sunflower79 - all Ennis says is "what are you doing?", but it's very slurred (I think the phrase Annie Proulx uses is that Ennis was "sleep clogged", or am I thinking of a different bit of the story?) and it comes out like "wharryoudoin?"
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #99 on: May 04, 2006, 09:41 AM »
I watched the movie again last night, and I couldn't hear what Ennis says right before they get it on hehe :) when they are facing each other..I had the volume turned up but and I know he said something but I missed it..I did hear alot of grunting and heaving and Jack hitting the floor of the tent with his hand..and lots of noice..:)

Sunflower79 - all Ennis says is "what are you doing?", but it's very slurred (I think the phrase Annie Proulx uses is that Ennis was "sleep clogged", or am I thinking of a different bit of the story?) and it comes out like "wharryoudoin?"


Ennis probably was still a little drunk too.  Surprised he sobered up enough to do what he did !!!
I think Jack was probably going to try to kiss him after he took his coat off.  Ennis knew what
was coming down though.  He really didn't fight it. 
There were many sounds in this scene that surprised me  after I started using headphones.  Seems like several
places in this film either the music was a little loud, or background noises muffled some of their dialog.
Especially the intimate scenes.  There is more than just noise going on in FNIT though !
 

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #100 on: May 04, 2006, 02:19 PM »




Looks to me like he is holding Ennis's hand.  Holding on for dear life !
This was a very realistic scene ! ;)

BOO ! It's danac...taking a deep breath of fresh air ;)
For what it's worth, it looks to me like he's holding his arm and then at the moment the "gun's goin off" grabs his hand!

Can we say "gun's goin off" here? ;D
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Re: First Night In Tent
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Looks to me like he is holding Ennis's hand.  Holding on for dear life !
This was a very realistic scene ! ;)

BOO ! It's danac...taking a deep breath of fresh air ;)
For what it's worth, it looks to me like he's holding his arm and then at the moment the "gun's goin off" grabs his hand!

Can we say "gun's goin off" here? ;D

I think that is why he grabbed his hand like that.  Gun going off. 
I had never heard that phrase before.  When I read it in the book, I of course I figured out what it meant, but
never heard it before.  In the book, Jack mumbles  "gun's goin off", 
Pounding and arm grabbing was their way of showing it.
 
 

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #102 on: May 04, 2006, 02:33 PM »
I think that is why he grabbed his hand like that.  Gun going off. 
I had never heard that phrase before.  When I read it in the book, I of course I figured out what it meant, but
never heard it before.  In the book, Jack mumbles  "gun's goin off", 
Pounding and arm grabbing was their way of showing it.

Well, I still haven't figured out what is going on and who is grabbing who.  But, it only took 27 seconds!  That is way too fast for me.  Where is the fun in that?

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #103 on: May 04, 2006, 02:40 PM »
I think that is why he grabbed his hand like that.  Gun going off. 
I had never heard that phrase before.  When I read it in the book, I of course I figured out what it meant, but
never heard it before.  In the book, Jack mumbles  "gun's goin off", 
Pounding and arm grabbing was their way of showing it.

Well, I still haven't figured out what is going on and who is grabbing who.  But, it only took 27 seconds!  That is way too fast for me.  Where is the fun in that?



It was fast, wasn't it.  I'm sure their next time lasted longer !
Uhhhh.....  I play it in slow motion a lot !!  Well.....  okay.... everytime !! ;D
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #104 on: May 04, 2006, 02:43 PM »
Well mayby thay did hold out longer, we see them, then the tent, then them asleep... we didn't see them finish..so to speak, and I am not sure the holding hands was anyone finishing, I think it was Jack holding on for dear life cause I have a feelling I shouldn't say what I was thinking here :)
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« Reply #105 on: May 04, 2006, 02:48 PM »
I think that is why he grabbed his hand like that.  Gun going off. 
I had never heard that phrase before.  When I read it in the book, I of course I figured out what it meant, but
never heard it before.  In the book, Jack mumbles  "gun's goin off", 
Pounding and arm grabbing was their way of showing it.

Well, I still haven't figured out what is going on and who is grabbing who.  But, it only took 27 seconds!  That is way too fast for me.  Where is the fun in that?



It was fast, wasn't it.  I'm sure their next time lasted longer !
Uhhhh.....  I play it in slow motion a lot !!  Well.....  okay.... everytime !! ;D
Does that make me one sick puppy? ;)


Nope, just makes you the same as most of us on here ;)

I didn't find it that surprising that their first time was so fast. They had to be incredibly excited and aroused by what was happening.
SNIT shows all the foreplay, tenderness and love that was missing in FNIT and I'm sure it lasted much longer.

Ach, I'm blushing now....
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #106 on: May 04, 2006, 02:48 PM »
Well mayby thay did hold out longer, we see them, then the tent, then them asleep... we didn't see them finish..so to speak, and I am not sure the holding hands was anyone finishing, I think it was Jack holding on for dear life cause I have a feelling I shouldn't say what I was thinking here :)

I thought the grunting from Ennis and the collapse from Jack meant they were finished! My god, I've long forgotten what it was like to be 19 ;)
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #107 on: May 04, 2006, 02:50 PM »
Well mayby thay did hold out longer, we see them, then the tent, then them asleep... we didn't see them finish..so to speak, and I am not sure the holding hands was anyone finishing, I think it was Jack holding on for dear life cause I have a feelling I shouldn't say what I was thinking here :)

I thought the grunting from Ennis and the collapse from Jack meant they were finished! My god, I've long forgotten what it was like to be 19 ;)

I did too ???
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #108 on: May 04, 2006, 03:21 PM »
Well mayby thay did hold out longer, we see them, then the tent, then them asleep... we didn't see them finish..so to speak, and I am not sure the holding hands was anyone finishing, I think it was Jack holding on for dear life cause I have a feelling I shouldn't say what I was thinking here :)

I thought the grunting from Ennis and the collapse from Jack meant they were finished! My god, I've long forgotten what it was like to be 19 ;)

LOL !!  Me too.  Oh to be 19 again. 
Maybe they were just finished for that round !?

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« Reply #109 on: May 04, 2006, 03:28 PM »
I thought the grunting from Ennis and the collapse from Jack meant they were finished! My god, I've long forgotten what it was like to be 19 ;)

LOL !!  Me too.  Oh to be 19 again. 
Maybe they were just finished for that round !?
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« Reply #110 on: May 04, 2006, 06:56 PM »
thanks.:) I know I heard something hehe..and I knew it wasn't just the noices they made when they were doing it :) next time I watch the movie I will put the subtitles on and see if catch anything else I may have missed

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #111 on: May 05, 2006, 03:45 AM »
Well mayby thay did hold out longer, we see them, then the tent, then them asleep... we didn't see them finish..so to speak, and I am not sure the holding hands was anyone finishing, I think it was Jack holding on for dear life cause I have a feelling I shouldn't say what I was thinking here :)

I thought the grunting from Ennis and the collapse from Jack meant they were finished! My god, I've long forgotten what it was like to be 19 ;)

LOL !!  Me too.  Oh to be 19 again. 
Maybe they were just finished for that round !?

I also thought that the grunting and Jack's collapse meant that they were finished, and it was way too fast - if not for them, then for me! But I don't think there were any more rounds, according to the story after the first one it was "out, down and asleep". I wonder why Larry and Diana didn't include "gun's going off" in the screenplay... Just imagine Jack/Jake saying that in the movie, WOW, that could be really really sexy... I think if he said that I would've finished... (did I just say that??!  :o no, I didn't say that... ignore that one, please!!)
OT, about the holding hands thing - for any of you who'd seen "Priest", there was a part there when they held hands while they were having sex and the camera focused on their hands, you could realy see how it was done out of passion, I thought it was very beautiful.
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #112 on: May 05, 2006, 05:14 AM »
I also thought that the grunting and Jack's collapse meant that they were finished, and it was way too fast - if not for them, then for me! But I don't think there were any more rounds, according to the story after the first one it was "out, down and asleep". I wonder why Larry and Diana didn't include "gun's going off" in the screenplay... Just imagine Jack/Jake saying that in the movie, WOW, that could be really really sexy... I think if he said that I would've finished... (did I just say that??!  :o no, I didn't say that... ignore that one, please!!)

:o :o

How can we ignore that when it's down in black and white Keren? ;D
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« Reply #113 on: May 05, 2006, 05:29 AM »
I also thought that the grunting and Jack's collapse meant that they were finished, and it was way too fast - if not for them, then for me! But I don't think there were any more rounds, according to the story after the first one it was "out, down and asleep". I wonder why Larry and Diana didn't include "gun's going off" in the screenplay... Just imagine Jack/Jake saying that in the movie, WOW, that could be really really sexy... I think if he said that I would've finished... (did I just say that??!  :o no, I didn't say that... ignore that one, please!!)

:o :o

How can we ignore that when it's down in black and white Keren? ;D

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #114 on: May 05, 2006, 01:04 PM »
I also thought that the grunting and Jack's collapse meant that they were finished, and it was way too fast - if not for them, then for me! But I don't think there were any more rounds, according to the story after the first one it was "out, down and asleep". I wonder why Larry and Diana didn't include "gun's going off" in the screenplay... Just imagine Jack/Jake saying that in the movie, WOW, that could be really really sexy... I think if he said that I would've finished... (did I just say that??!  :o no, I didn't say that... ignore that one, please!!)

:o :o

How can we ignore that when it's down in black and white Keren? ;D

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #115 on: May 05, 2006, 08:38 PM »
I thought the grunting from Ennis and the collapse from Jack meant they were finished! My god, I've long forgotten what it was like to be 19 ;)

LOL !!  Me too.  Oh to be 19 again. 
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Well, Jack was walking a little funny the next morning when he comes out of the tent.  I always thought the way Jack grabs Ennis hand and then Ennis makes that big "AHRGGGG" sound, the fireworks went off at the same time.  But that could just be my little demented mind working overtime!   ;D I'd say it was a "successful" evening for sure for both of them!  Ennis sure couldn't resist coming back for more the second night.   ;D

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« Reply #116 on: May 05, 2006, 08:46 PM »
I thought the grunting from Ennis and the collapse from Jack meant they were finished! My god, I've long forgotten what it was like to be 19 ;)

LOL !!  Me too.  Oh to be 19 again. 
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If I went more than one of those rounds, they'd have to pull me out of the tent by my hair the nest day! ;)

Well, Jack was walking a little funny the next morning when he comes out of the tent.  I always thought the way Jack grabs Ennis hand and then Ennis makes that big "AHRGGGG" sound, the fireworks went off at the same time.  But that could just be my little demented mind working overtime!   ;D I'd say it was a "successful" evening for sure for both of them!  Ennis sure couldn't resist coming back for more the second night.   ;D

I remember the first time I saw the movie at the theater.  The FNIT was very dark, so I really couldn't figure out what the hell
was going on until I heard Ennis go Ahrggggg !  Then it was .... AHA......
I stayed for the next viewing and went back the next day, and the next.  Just had to make sure, you see  ;D

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #117 on: May 05, 2006, 09:25 PM »
I remember the first time I saw the movie at the theater.  The FNIT was very dark, so I really couldn't figure out what the hell
was going on until I heard Ennis go Ahrggggg !  Then it was .... AHA......
I stayed for the next viewing and went back the next day, and the next.  Just had to make sure, you see  ;D

Oh, yes, well, me, too.  I only went back six (or more  ;D ) times to verify what happened in the tent for purely artistic reasons *coughs.*  You know, either I have better vision than I thought or the film quality was better for some reason, but I had no problems seeing the action the FNIT.  It was dark, but not too dark.  Or maybe it was just the fact that the ushers had to peel me off the screen at the end of the scene so others could enjoy the rest of the movie!

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #118 on: May 05, 2006, 09:40 PM »
I remember the first time I saw the movie at the theater.  The FNIT was very dark, so I really couldn't figure out what the hell
was going on until I heard Ennis go Ahrggggg !  Then it was .... AHA......
I stayed for the next viewing and went back the next day, and the next.  Just had to make sure, you see  ;D

Oh, yes, well, me, too.  I only went back six (or more  ;D ) times to verify what happened in the tent for purely artistic reasons *coughs.*  You know, either I have better vision than I thought or the film quality was better for some reason, but I had no problems seeing the action the FNIT.  It was dark, but not too dark.  Or maybe it was just the fact that the ushers had to peel me off the screen at the end of the scene so others could enjoy the rest of the movie!

Ahhhh...  Up close and intimate, huh?
I did sit on the 3 row in one of my 15 visits to the theater.  I felt like I was in the tent with them !  :D
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #119 on: May 06, 2006, 02:50 AM »
Or maybe it was just the fact that the ushers had to peel me off the screen at the end of the scene so others could enjoy the rest of the movie!

LMAO ;D
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