Topic: Are Heath & Jake the ones you have in mind as Ennis & Jack? --possible spoiler--

[tpe]

I think they r very empathic as people and they can relate to a situation and a person very well..they submerged themselves into the character which is simply beautiful…That’s a skill many actors possess…I read the SS after watching the film and I was literally imagining the scene as I was watching the film...That much Heath and Jake as Ennis and Jack have impacted me…Its just them on my minds.,..The credit goes to Ang too as he was able to help them portray it to their best abilities. When I read the story, the mountains, the rivers and places flash in my mind…That shows the brilliance of Ang to present the film so very well…

I believe that aspects of Ennis and Jack are based off of Heath and Jake.  In Jake's case, I am almost sure it is true -- the pure emotiveness and subtlety.  In the case of Heath, I think he draws a great deal from some hidden suffering.  In either case, perhaps there is more to the characters than first meets the eye.

[vedrana]

I believe that aspects of Ennis and Jack are based off of Heath and Jake.  In Jake's case, I am almost sure it is true -- the pure emotiveness and subtlety.  In the case of Heath, I think he draws a great deal from some hidden suffering.  In either case, perhaps there is more to the characters than first meets the eye.

  So true!

As I already said:I love the way you think! 

[smartestsonia]

I believe that aspects of Ennis and Jack are based off of Heath and Jake.  In Jake's case, I am almost sure it is true -- the pure emotiveness and subtlety.  In the case of Heath, I think he draws a great deal from some hidden suffering.  In either case, perhaps there is more to the characters than first meets the eye.

Thankyou Thomas …I really believe that Jake is a very emotive person..As Hippiewannabe previously said that Jake is more outgoing and that can be seen in Jacks’ Character….When u spoke about Heaths hidden suffering I remembered his death and I remembered his own personal sufferings..I think that he was going through a hard time before he died....And as a person I think he is a little reserved...Thats my opinion...I may be wrong….he felt the pain of Ennis so very deeply that he literally lived being Ennis…I think as an actor that’s the greatest contribution one can give to a role..I think it was more than just a role for heath..He related to the miseries and struggles of Ennis like they were his own…

[vedrana]

Thankyou Thomas …I really believe that Jake is a very emotive person..As Hippiewannabe previously said that Jake is more outgoing and that can be seen in Jacks’ Character….When u spoke about Heaths hidden suffering I remembered his death and I remembered his own personal sufferings..I think that he was going through a hard time before he died....And as a person I think he is a little reserved...Thats my opinion...I may be wrong….he felt the pain of Ennis so very deeply that he literally lived being Ennis…I think as an actor that’s the greatest contribution one can give to a role..I think it was more than just a role for heath..He related to the miseries and struggles of Ennis like they were his own…

 

Well said Cleo! Heath's role looks so natural, as we can not distinct him form Ennis. He entered into the character as he was Ennis. Or at least had a many connections inside himself with Ennis!  Heath! RIP "my beautiful boy"!  :\'(

[tpe]

Thanks friends.  Yes, I agree that actors sometimes internalize their roles so much that it sometimes becomes more than personal.  It is both a strength and a flaw.  One always hope that in the ideal situation, an artist can take himself out of his Art at will, but we know for a fact that this is never completely the case.  An artist is thus both great and flawed at the same time because of it.  DO we believe the Greek dictum of not breaking the veil that separates Art from reality?  Again, that really is just an ideal, strictly speaking.

[smartestsonia]

Thankyou Loreen and Thomas..I always appreciate your feedback
I agree with what u both have said 

Thomas : Can you please explain what the "Greek dictum of not breaking the veil that separates Art from reality" means?
Thankyou 

[tpe]

Thankyou Loreen and Thomas..I always appreciate your feedback
I agree with what u both have said 

Thomas : Can you please explain what the "Greek dictum of not breaking the veil that separates Art from reality" means?
Thankyou 

OT: oh, there is a "rule" (given is Aristotle's Poetics?  -- I can' remember exactly right now) where good actors never cross over from the make-believe world of the stage and the real world of the audience.  For example, in the plays of the Roman comic writer Plautus, he deliberately breaks this rule (for comic effect) by making the actors pause and talk directly with the audience!