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Re: Jack Checks out Ennis's Package.. not once, but twice...
« Reply #30 on: Jul 30, 2006, 07:50 PM »
Those pics of Jack peeling the potato and Ennis in the back ground is not where Jack checks out Ennis's package... I don't even think Jack sneaks a peek there... (some people claim to see it, I don't)
But right after Ennis says : ... 'my daddy was a fine roper. Didn't rodeo much though. He thought rodeo cowboys was all f*** ups'  as Jack says:  "The hell they are'  FOLLOW HIS EYES.
Then again right before his does his YEEEHAWWW!!  See  those eyes dart down to Ennis's crotchal area..   :P :P :P
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Re: Jack Checks out Ennis's Package.. not once, but twice...
« Reply #31 on: Jul 30, 2006, 07:53 PM »
Those pics of Jack peeling the potato and Ennis in the back ground is not where Jack checks out Ennis's package... I don't even think Jack sneaks a peek here...
It's right after Ennis says : ... 'my daddy was a fine roper. Didn't rodeo much though. He thought rodeo cowboys was all f*** ups'  Them as Jack says:  "The hell they are'  FOLLOW HIS EYES.
Then again right before his does his YEEEHAWWW!!  See  those eyes dart down to Ennis's crotchal area..   :P :P :P

Yup, saw that one too. But I thought he did a quick sideways glance during the "potato peel" scene as well. Regardless, I couldn't have handled a knife responsibly with that going on behind me, LOL.
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Re: Jack Checks out Ennis's Package.. not once, but twice...
« Reply #32 on: Jul 31, 2006, 02:25 AM »
I think he takes a very quick look during the potato peeling scene too - he doesn't move his head, but it does look like he moves his eyes to the side for a second. I didn't spot it initially, but on more recent viewings I've watched his face really carefully (oh, the hardship ::) ;)) and I'm pretty sure now that he does.
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Re: Jack Checks out Ennis's Package.. not once, but twice...
« Reply #33 on: Jul 31, 2006, 03:49 AM »
First time I saw the movie...in all honesty, I was rooting for Jack to look!!!  But of course the brilliance of the direction shines through...the scene would have been all wrong!
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Re: Jack Checks out Ennis's Package.. not once, but twice...
« Reply #34 on: Jul 31, 2006, 07:49 AM »
Actually, making such a huge effort not to look is more effective than if he had looked - gives the sense that he knows what he wants to do but thinks he shouldn't.

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Re: Jack Checks out Ennis's Package.. not once, but twice...
« Reply #35 on: Jul 31, 2006, 01:23 PM »
Actually, making such a huge effort not to look is more effective than if he had looked - gives the sense that he knows what he wants to do but thinks he shouldn't.
I could not agree more ww. He knows that he wants to and the camera on his face makes sure that we know it too.
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Re: Jack Checks out Ennis's Package.. not once, but twice...
« Reply #36 on: Jul 31, 2006, 01:29 PM »
Thats one of my favorite parts in the movie, when he looks down at Ennis, just that look on his face reads "hunger" or "desire"
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Re: Jack Checks out Ennis's Package.. not once, but twice...
« Reply #37 on: Jul 31, 2006, 02:41 PM »
I think there's a hint of it in the bar scene at the beginning - to me it has at forst a lot to do with someone lonely wanting to reach out to someone like himslef. By the Ennis-in-the-nude scene it's become sexual but in a touching way - like a child who says "I wish I could have..." whatever.

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Re: Jack Checks out Ennis's Package.. not once, but twice...
« Reply #38 on: Aug 01, 2006, 01:55 PM »
I agree, Jack shows his love in a very sweet, touching kind of way. The look on his face when he tries to mop up Ennis' blood when he comes back to the camp after the bear incident. The SNIT. The look on his face and the way he says 'Ennis come here' on the last day together on the mountain when Ennis' nose is bleeding and Jack tries to hold him. If only Ennis had let him instead of hitting him. :(  The way he strokes Ennis' face after Ennis has just told him 'There ain't no reins on this one'. Ooh sooo sweet! <^(
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Re: Jack Checks out Ennis's Package.. not once, but twice...
« Reply #39 on: Aug 01, 2006, 08:02 PM »
 *o) *o)    %&)

Please, let's get back to Ennis's package....
Did you see Jack take the peek at Ennis's good stuff in the 'daddy was a fine roper......YEEEEHAAAAAAAWW !!!  scene or NOT!!

If you didn't... take a loook!!    :d) :d)

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Re: Jack Checks out Ennis's Package.. not once, but twice...
« Reply #40 on: Aug 05, 2006, 11:18 PM »
Wow.  Those eyes are going down there to get a look at Ennis's package..  HOTTTT!!
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Re: Jack Checks out Ennis's Package.. not once, but twice...
« Reply #41 on: Dec 25, 2006, 01:42 AM »
Slighty  *o) but Ennis also checks Jack out.



During this scene when leans back Ennis to watch Jack leave (and you'll really have to be watching to see this) he leans back just that little bit more as though to check Jack out (probably without even realising it).

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Re: Jack Checks out Ennis's Package.. not once, but twice...
« Reply #42 on: Dec 25, 2006, 09:57 PM »
 Looks like Ennis is doin some lookin himself!


 

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Re: Jack Checks out Ennis's Package.. not once, but twice...
« Reply #43 on: Dec 30, 2006, 01:13 AM »
Yeah, Ennis did sneak a peak or two here, In the WaterWalkin Scene Jack is sitting on the stump explaining his mom's religion when Ennis reveals he's a virgin. The way he looks at Jack when Jack hands him the whiskey is so telling. Jack looks so handsome sittin there just shyly smiling away as Ennis contemplates his " opportunity". It's so subtle ,yet so boldly romantic. I love it.
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Re: Jack Checks out Ennis's Package.. not once, but twice...
« Reply #44 on: Jan 18, 2007, 03:51 PM »
Oh, Jack was so horny at that point.  He wanted Ennis something fierce. 

Holy moley - just reading that makes me have to fan myself.  Whew!!!
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Re: Jack Checks out Ennis's Package.. not once, but twice...
« Reply #45 on: Aug 30, 2007, 04:05 PM »
i know. The sencond time i saw the movie in the theater. my partner, are friend (who got stood up by his boyfriend) and I were cracking up whispering that "jack is so crusing ennis"
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Re: Jack Checks out Ennis's Package.. not once, but twice...
« Reply #46 on: Aug 31, 2007, 06:47 AM »
Yup, saw that one too. But I thought he did a quick sideways glance during the "potato peel" scene as well. Regardless, I couldn't have handled a knife responsibly with that going on behind me, LOL.

Yeah, but do you think that Ennis is completly innocent with these goings on?  I know their two guys but still... comon now. ;) :*( ;) :*(
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Re: Jack Checks out Ennis's Package.. not once, but twice...
« Reply #47 on: Aug 31, 2007, 07:02 AM »
Yeah, but do you think that Ennis is completly innocent with these goings on? 

This has always been my contention aint - with all the great outdoors in which to strip down and "warsh everything he can reach" Ennis decides to strip down and show it all about five feet away from Jack when he's tied down peeling potatoes? Just guys, yeah right. He was fishin' alright, just took him a few days to catch somethin'!!
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« Reply #48 on: Aug 31, 2007, 07:17 AM »
Maybe Mr. Ennisence was way ahead of Jack after all. He had his ways. ;) ;D Maybe Jack should  have put the potato down and answered the "call of the wild" sooner. <^( <^( :d)
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Re: Jack Checks out Ennis's Package.. not once, but twice...
« Reply #49 on: Sep 21, 2007, 06:59 PM »
     Don't wanna be a party-pooper, you all are having so much fun.....but it's NORMAL for people to check each other out.   Some time
back, on t.v., they showed how the people who make commercials were studying where viewers look, and so they hooked people up with
these helmets that focused a laser dot where their eyes moved, on the screen they were looking at.  Both men and women looked at the
face and then the crotch of males, and both looked at the face and then breasts of the females.  EVERYbody looks there, briefly, and longer,
if they can get away with it.
      So they now play to subliminal sex stuff.  Anybody seen that commercial for a fast food co., where that guy jostles a cow to produce
a milkshake, while he grins over his shoulder, and is suggestive with his rump?  Come on-you gotta have seen it!
     On the other hand, all cultures consider spreading your thighs, as in the picture of Ennis  shown above, as provocative and suggestive.
So Ennis might have been saying something there. Oh, well----go back to the horseplay around the water cooler.  They probably were
beginning to send signals, but a glance at the crotch area---Nah-and fanny-pats by football players don't mean anything either.  Still, these
posts were fun and will look for all this next time I do the DVD again.

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Re: Jack Checks out Ennis's Package.. not once, but twice...
« Reply #50 on: Sep 21, 2007, 09:47 PM »
 There are many instances in the film whee Ennis's actions , behavior can be interpeted as subliminal messages to Jack that he was interested in being more than just friends.
 Most are subtle, but I think that him trading jobs with Jack, getting soup, shooting elk, bathing near Jack in the altogether, the leaning stare in the bucking horse scene, and even confessing  his supposed ??virginity to Jack, were put in the film by Ang Lee to show that Ennis's feelings for Jack were progressing towards what culminated into FNIT.
 Neither actually said anything verbally or blatent, but the story was told imo. Jack in the potato peeling scene , his casual touching of Ennis, prolonged stares,  his cooking skills? ....well you know he tried, ( at least Ennis was warned  :) ;))etc, leaves no doubt in the viewer's mind what he was feeling while Ennis bathed close behind him.
Wether Ennis did this conciously or unconciously we got  the message that Jack was definitly interested in being more than just friends for sure. Sure he looked at his crotch and btw sneeked a peek while Ennis bathed.
I agree it is normal and natural to check out someone to whom you  are attracted to.They both had their ways of showing it, different approaches,  yet same ultimate dream. One of these actions taken alone can be seen as yeah, it's just a friend looking out for another friend, but putting them altogether, tells a much different story. My thoughts.
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Re: Jack Checks out Ennis's Package.. not once, but twice...
« Reply #51 on: Sep 24, 2007, 10:14 AM »
     That was great.  Sometimes it can be fun to find out you are wrong, because you can find something you didn't have, before.
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« Reply #52 on: Sep 25, 2007, 04:21 AM »
So glad you are able to appreciate the film even more( if that's possible) , but next time you check out the DVD, see if you almost feel  ...what I can only describe as a* magnetic dance* between these two cowboys, drawn to each other, gravitating and slowly,but surely finding love that spans 20 years, a love of a lifetime. As some one said , you never see the actors,  HL & JG only the characters Jack Twist and Ennis Del Mar.  It's a  real human journey for them ,and we are just riding  the waves along with them. The acting to me is so  excellence personified!. Thanks.
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Re: Jack Checks out Ennis's Package.. not once, but twice...
« Reply #53 on: Sep 25, 2007, 05:22 AM »
   


           Oh yes jack was totaly checking ennis out especially on the second glance the way his eye,s darted
            up and down.no mistake there.
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Re: Jack Checks out Ennis's Package.. not once, but twice...
« Reply #54 on: Sep 25, 2007, 11:01 AM »
   


           Oh yes jack was totaly checking ennis out especially on the second glance the way his eye,s darted
            up and down.no mistake there.
Yeah,but,as someone said before,it´s logical and normal to check out someone´s "graces" when you feel attracted to him/her.And Ennis´were in the lot¡(And what a lot¡).
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Re: Jack Checks out Ennis's Package.. not once, but twice...
« Reply #55 on: Sep 25, 2007, 12:02 PM »
Yeah,but,as someone said before,it´s logical and normal to check out someone´s "graces" when you feel attracted to him/her.And Ennis´were in the lot¡(And what a lot¡).


        Yea people do check each other out but MPJ he was so blatant about it dont you think ,no sneaky looks just right on in there have a good look. (^)
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« Reply #56 on: Sep 25, 2007, 12:47 PM »


        Yea people do check each other out but MPJ he was so blatant about it dont you think ,no sneaky looks just right on in there have a good look. (^)
A good look is what matters in this case¡.One can see if the stuff is good enough...
Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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Re: Jack Checks out Ennis's Package.. not once, but twice...
« Reply #57 on: Sep 26, 2007, 05:27 AM »
Looks like Ennis is doin some lookin himself!


 

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« Reply #58 on: Sep 26, 2007, 05:34 AM »
*Waiting for the right opportunity* . . . .




Honestly, the first time I saw the movie the thought that came to my mind was "Surprised he didn't cut his thumb tryin' to peel that potato with that kinda view goin' on behind him!" Whew!

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Re: Jack Checks out Ennis's Package.. not once, but twice...
« Reply #59 on: Sep 26, 2007, 05:46 AM »
I´m not surprised that the poor boy is so astonished and he takes a look at "good opportunities" :d);Ennis is totally spread-legged in front of him as saying:-"All this is mine,if you want to serve yourself..." What is difficult to say categorically is if he does all this without realising or as proof of something that was growing in him-and please,don´t make jokes about...-.What is clear,however,is that both of them are sending signals to each other somehow;clearly in Jack´s case,doubtful and semi-unconciously in Ennis´.
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Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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