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Re: Spittle
« Reply #120 on: Jan 02, 2007, 08:58 PM »
In any event, I do suspect that the fist-pounding suggested the act of masturbation. 

Was it the hand that was lubricated with spittle?  It was Ennis's left hand, no?

No.  Ennis spit in his right hand. 

IMO - Jack grabbed Ennis' right hand/fist (the one he spit in) with his own right hand.  It's hard to see because it's at the very left bottom corner of the screen & it's dark.  I hadn't noticed it until someone mentioned it in another thread.  I lightened my TV & there it was.  Zero in on the color of the clothing - Jack appears to grab something in a tan color - Ennis' jacket. 

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Re: Spittle
« Reply #121 on: Jan 03, 2007, 05:04 AM »
After more careful research ,It's still inconclusive as to what actually transpired,  Ennis's right hand is missing at crucial points so more defined study  is needed. ( My computer screen's brightness is not enough  with the DVD, it's still too dark to tell) but I don't have access to my big screen TV at this time so I will continue  research later. I must say though that I've never had this much fun doing so much...ahem..  research! How bout you?
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Re: Spittle
« Reply #122 on: Jan 03, 2007, 09:10 AM »
After more careful research ,It's still inconclusive as to what actually transpired,  Ennis's right hand is missing at crucial points so more defined study  is needed. ( My computer screen's brightness is not enough  with the DVD, it's still too dark to tell) but I don't have access to my big screen TV at this time so I will continue  research later. I must say though that I've never had this much fun doing so much...ahem..  research! How bout you?
 We need a picture, Any one?

Once I put my daughter down for her nap I will take a look. I intended to do this yesterday, but I ended up working longer than I had originally planned. I'll get some pictures.

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Re: Spittle
« Reply #123 on: Jan 03, 2007, 09:18 AM »
Do you mean this scene?

The most difficult scene was the paragraph where, on the mountain, Ennis holds Jack and rocks back and forth, humming, the moment mixed with childhood loss and his refusal to admit he was holding a man.

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From the vibration of the floorboard on which they both stood, Ennis could feel how hard Jack was shaking.

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« Reply #124 on: Jan 03, 2007, 09:34 AM »
Wonderful.  Thanks, everyone.  And Twisted's screencap confirms that Ennis used his right hand.  :)


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Re: Spittle
« Reply #125 on: Jan 03, 2007, 05:18 PM »
Before I left for work today I played a couple of scenes from the dvd, particularly the SNIT scene.  After nearly 40 viewings I finally noticed the spittle trail from their first kiss.  It made me appreciate the tenderness and authenticity of this scene even more.
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« Reply #126 on: Jan 03, 2007, 05:27 PM »
Before I left for work today I played a couple of scenes from the dvd, particularly the SNIT scene.  After nearly 40 viewings I finally noticed the spittle trail from their first kiss.  It made me appreciate the tenderness and authenticity of this scene even more.

It never gets old, CSC.  IMO, this should have won the MTV Movie Awards Best Kiss, even though the Reunion Kiss can't be said to be any less wonderful.  Even though the SNIT kiss is less dramatic, the spittle adds to the tenderness and veracity. 

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« Reply #127 on: Jan 03, 2007, 05:35 PM »
It never gets old, CSC.  IMO, this should have won the MTV Movie Awards Best Kiss, even though the Reunion Kiss can't be said to be any less wonderful.  Even though the SNIT kiss is less dramatic, the spittle adds to the tenderness and veracity. 

I agree!  I replayed the scene a couple of times.  I think a third time would have brought a few tears to my eyes.  Who ever thought a trail of spit could enhance my appreciation for a film scene?
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« Reply #128 on: Jan 03, 2007, 05:38 PM »
I never thought so either. 

I have heard about some people finding this detail "disgusting".  Had they never kissed a lover?


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Re: Spittle
« Reply #129 on: Jan 03, 2007, 05:43 PM »
Ye who is without spit may cast the first complaint.  Their only real problem was that the kiss was between two men.  The spit trail just didn't help them. ;)
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« Reply #130 on: Jan 03, 2007, 05:51 PM »
Their only real problem was that the kiss was between two men.  The spit trail just didn't help them. ;)

I admire the actors for their dedication to veracity.  Naturally, I would not be particular if I took the place of either of them.

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« Reply #131 on: Jan 03, 2007, 05:53 PM »
Same here! O0
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« Reply #132 on: Jan 03, 2007, 07:59 PM »
Ye who is without spit may cast the first complaint.  Their only real problem was that the kiss was between two men.  The spit trail just didn't help them. ;)
I am so pleased to have this this spit trail now, it looks so tender, it just adds to the beauty of the scene. I wish people could just see two people and get over what sex they are.
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Re: Spittle
« Reply #133 on: Jan 03, 2007, 08:43 PM »
I agree!  I replayed the scene a couple of times.  I think a third time would have brought a few tears to my eyes.  Who ever thought a trail of spit could enhance my appreciation for a film scene?

Every little new sound or whatever enhances this movie even more for me.  :)

I don't see how anyone could find it disgusting- but that's just me. It is a beautiful, tender, romantic moment- nothing disgusting about it.
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« Reply #134 on: Jan 03, 2007, 08:44 PM »
Every little new sound or whatever enhances this movie even more for me.  :)

I don't see how anyone could find it disgusting- but that's just me. It is a beautiful, tender, romantic moment- nothing disgusting about it.

So, so true. It takes my breath away even now. Such intensity and passion.  <^(

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« Reply #135 on: Jan 04, 2007, 12:52 AM »
So, so true. It takes my breath away even now. Such intensity and passion.  <^(

Beautifully said <^(



The most difficult scene was the paragraph where, on the mountain, Ennis holds Jack and rocks back and forth, humming, the moment mixed with childhood loss and his refusal to admit he was holding a man.

- Annie Proulx -



From the vibration of the floorboard on which they both stood, Ennis could feel how hard Jack was shaking.

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« Reply #136 on: Jan 04, 2007, 05:50 AM »
That put a smile on my face. Such a tender scene.
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« Reply #137 on: Jan 04, 2007, 08:21 AM »
Thanks again, Twisted, for the wonderful pictures, which speak for themselves.

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« Reply #138 on: Jan 04, 2007, 08:25 AM »
I am so pleased to have this this spit trail now, it looks so tender, it just adds to the beauty of the scene. I wish people could just see two people and get over what sex they are.

A kiss is a kiss, no?  But unfortunately, many people do get revolted when seeing such an intimate kiss shared between 2 people of the same sex.  I am quite sure that for these people, the exchange of saliva is quite a disgusting detail, purely on account of this distinction.
 

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« Reply #139 on: Jan 04, 2007, 08:50 AM »
No matter who the kiss is between, I doubt that a kiss has ever been analysed this closely before, right down to viewing the trail of spittle. ;D
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« Reply #140 on: Jan 04, 2007, 08:59 AM »
We are all suckers for a good wet kiss.  :)


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« Reply #141 on: Jan 04, 2007, 11:24 AM »
We are all suckers for a good wet kiss.  :)



And the nice SMACK their lips make after they break apart. Amazing.

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« Reply #142 on: Jan 04, 2007, 11:31 AM »
This is probably OT, but I used to know someone who referred to sex as "exchanging bodily fluids", though not in any specific/ exclusive  sense - I guess he'd have included spit, since it's just as personal and intimate as the others.

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« Reply #143 on: Jan 04, 2007, 02:56 PM »
This is probably OT, but I used to know someone who referred to sex as "exchanging bodily fluids", though not in any specific/ exclusive  sense - I guess he'd have included spit, since it's just as personal and intimate as the others.

Most especially spit....

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« Reply #144 on: Jan 04, 2007, 06:24 PM »
And the nice SMACK their lips make after they break apart. Amazing.

We are a detail-oriented bunch here.  I noticed it too!
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« Reply #145 on: Jan 04, 2007, 10:24 PM »
And the nice SMACK their lips make after they break apart. Amazing.

Yes, I love the sound of that kiss - and the last one in the SNIT - the heavy breathing & passion - makes them even better to watch.

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« Reply #146 on: Jan 04, 2007, 10:28 PM »
Yes, I love the sound of that kiss - and the last one in the SNIT - the heavy breathing & passion - makes them even better to watch.

I will replay this scene again and again this weekend.
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« Reply #147 on: Jan 04, 2007, 10:33 PM »
I will replay this scene again and again this weekend.

Yeah, CSC, I think I need to go watch it again tonight.  I have watched this movie at least 3 times a week - sometimes twice a night.  My first viewing was in November on HBO, & I've lost count how many times I've seen it - at least 30.

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« Reply #148 on: Jan 06, 2007, 05:00 AM »
Think about it , where would we be without spit during lovemaking? Almost nowhere .High and dry. Not good. Sexual arousal brings about many bodily fluids. Spit, sweat, and well...you know This kiss sure wet my..ahem...whistle. ;) ;D <^(
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« Reply #149 on: Jan 07, 2007, 01:49 AM »

Jack pounding HIS fist on the ground?  Or Jack pounding Ennis' fist on the ground?  This was brought up in another thread & in the DVD - if you lighten it - it does appear that Jack grabs Ennis' right hand and pounds it on the ground.  Now that's hot!  :d) Where Ennis' hand had been before that - I'll need to do further research.  Thoughts?


I thought, but am not at all certain about this, that first Jack was pounding his right hand on the ground, and then grabbed Ennis's hand.  I'll have to research, too.  What a research team we are!

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