Author Topic: PLEASE READ - DEFENDING JAKE, HEATH AND THE GAY COMMUNITY  (Read 14770 times)

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I'm so sorry if I have put this in the wrong place.  Could a mod or admin please help me get it in a place where it will do the most good?  Thank you so much!

TIME TO STAND UP FOR JAKE AND THE GAY COMMUNITY

Jake has been slurred along with the gay community by a social epithet on jossip.com and PX.com.  I just couldn't tolerate it.  The world simply cannot stand by and continue to allow this poisonous hatred to continue especially in a gossip column that has just printed an obvious lie once again attributed to an unnamed source.  This one goes over the line.  It's one thing to intelligently discuss Jake, Heath or the gay community at large in a positive or healing way, it is another to spread the poison of intolerance and use the term "queer" as if it were some disease.  I'm furious.  My site is now boycotting these sites and I have contacted both with the email I attach below.

Due to the fact that this is a long explanation as a whole, I am going to give you the link to the discussion that spawned all of this on my site.  PLEASE PLEASE read it and Please, help stop this hatred.  The whole world has access to this and you know how many people go to these sites and actually believe what they read there and it will form in their minds that being homosexual is some sort of horrible thing and the hatred and cruelty just continues. 

Please contact me if you have any questions or comments.  A concentrated and organized effort will stop this kind of thing.  I have every intention of going to GLAAD if I do not receive a positive response.  So far the only response has been, we just published it, PX did it first.  Well you know what?  They still chose to publish it and that makes them just as much at fault.

If there is any place in the world that will defend this cause with knowlege and first hand experience it is here in the BBM forums.  Jake has done so much for all of us.  It's not a matter of whether he ignores them or not, it is a matter of the slur on the gay community as well as the fact that the story is a blatant lie.  As a matter of fact that is more important than the story.

http://heathledgercentral.net/ipb/upload/index.php?showtopic=2733

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I am attaching a copy of the email from myself to jossip.com.  Please consider it to your site as well I would appreciate your explanation of this incident or I shall not hesitate for one moment to contact GLAAD.  It is unforgiveable that you have participated in spreading not only lies but poisonous hate and social epithets. 

I will expect your reply.

Theresa

Dear Sirs or Msdmes,

I am appalled at the fact that you published the article regarding a party at the home of Heath Ledger that you quoted as being from a source in the know.  This was a liabilous article that also used a social epithet against Mr. Gyllenhaal and the gay community as a whole.  I am not gay, however, I am not a biggot either.  I request a retraction of this story and an apology to the gay community or I shall not hesitate to take this matter to GLAAD.  It is impossible to heal our world with organizations such as yours with no social conscience stirring fires that should have long ago been doused. 

I work in the entertainment industry in Los Angeles and am also administrator of an entertainment website.  The members there and the members of fellow celebrity and entertainment sites are your bread and butter which is the reason you print this tripe, but you underestimate their intelligence and mostly their morals and values.  These members have agreed to band together and boycott your site and the original site that posted the article (pix), unless a retraction and apology to the gay community and Mr. Gyllenhaal and Mr. Ledger is forthcoming.  I do not represent either man in any way, I speak as an outraged citizen and internet user.  The people involved in this boycott are outraged as well.  You may not have been the original source of this article, however, you decided to print the article as well and to purpetuate the social slurs and the innuendo.  Why don't you provide a name of this individual.  That in itself speaks volumes.  And don't say you are protecting your source, you are not a legitimate press agency.

For your information, you might have wanted to at least check your information before printing it.  Mr. Gyllenhaal couldn't have attended the party where he was called a "queer" by your source as he was in Austin TX with Lance Armstrong and Mr. Ledger couldn't have been hosting said party since he was at the UGANDA project here in Los Angeles at Chateau Marmont with Ellen Degeneres and a slew of other entertainment industry members the entire evening in question.  Pictures, video and news footage of these events have been presented on television, the internet and in newspapers.  I was able to obtain this information with little or not effort and you could have done the same.

I await a reply as to why this unfortunate situation took place and your total lack of concern as to the liabilous and biggoted comments on your website. 

If need be, I shall turn to other sources for support in this matter.

I appreciate your time and consideration.

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« Last Edit: Jul 19, 2006, 04:21 PM by theresa »
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Re: PLEASE READ - DEFENDING JAKE, HEATH AND THE GAY COMMUNITY
« Reply #1 on: Jul 19, 2006, 04:11 PM »
Thank you, Theresa.

I will move this for now to the section entitled "Our Support For BBM".   I encourage everyone here to consider this seriously.


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Re: PLEASE READ - DEFENDING JAKE, HEATH AND THE GAY COMMUNITY
« Reply #2 on: Jul 19, 2006, 04:16 PM »
Thank you.

I have contacted GLAAD and asked that they look into it and contact these sites. 

This is what BBM is all about and I can't say I am changed by that film and not stand up for what is right. 

It is my privilege completely.
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« Reply #3 on: Jul 19, 2006, 04:16 PM »
Theresa, just to note that this part of the forum is visible to members and non-members alike.   It should reach as many people as possible.


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« Reply #4 on: Jul 19, 2006, 04:22 PM »
Thank you so much.

I forgot to add the link on my site to the entire discussion that started this action on my part.  I want everyone to be able to be informed so I will post it here.

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« Reply #5 on: Jul 19, 2006, 04:25 PM »


I shall make sure that I take a look at the discussion.  Even not knowing the exact circumstances, I know that I am fully in agreement here (how can I not?)  I trust that all of us here feel the same way.


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« Reply #6 on: Jul 19, 2006, 04:29 PM »
Just posting so I'll find this again..need to read it properly :)
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Re: PLEASE READ - DEFENDING JAKE, HEATH AND THE GAY COMMUNITY
« Reply #7 on: Jul 19, 2006, 04:49 PM »
I can't understand why people have to be so s****d I Mean get a life! this is not fair! I'm straight and this kind of atitudes offend me so much!
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« Reply #8 on: Jul 19, 2006, 05:10 PM »
I can't understand why people have to be so s****d I Mean get a life! this is not fair! I'm straight and this kind of atitudes offend me so much!

Carlos_H82, this only shows that you are accepting.  Acceptance is not a universal virtue in this world, unfortunately.


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« Reply #9 on: Jul 19, 2006, 05:15 PM »
Bravo Carlos!  Exactly.  I also am a straight person.  I am 51 years old and the mother of two girls and two granddaughters.  They will inherit this world.  Strip us all bare naked to the bone and we are just people.  Not gay, straight, black, white.  We are brothers and sisters.  Everyone of us.  And by God I will stand by my loved ones here, by my brothers and sisters.  It simply will not continue.  Do you believe someone actually said to me, the less said the best it should just be swept under the rug.  Well you know what?  That's what's wrong with the world regarding tolerance and biggotry now.  We've swept it under the rug.  That's real easy to do for a lot of us like you and me who aren't being descriminated against.  It's real easy for straights to say no let's not stir this mess.  Bull crap!  Not this woman.  I will stir it.  I will stand with my brothers and sisters.  BBM taught me so much and I'll never ever back down again on something like this.  I'll never be even a molecule of the reason another Ennis Delmar exists trapped in a world he cannot function in.  Never.

Sorry, I'm just so passionate about this.  There are so few things in this world we can do to make a positive change and a better world.  But we can do this.  We can!

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Re: PLEASE READ - DEFENDING JAKE, HEATH AND THE GAY COMMUNITY
« Reply #10 on: Jul 19, 2006, 05:28 PM »
Theresa and Carlos and the other straight members. Here is one gay man who says a big thank you. It is people like you who are non judgemental that show me there is a better future for all.

Keep fighting the good and just fight.
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« Reply #11 on: Jul 19, 2006, 05:38 PM »
Bravo Carlos!  Exactly.  I also am a straight person.  I am 51 years old and the mother of two girls and two granddaughters.  They will inherit this world.  Strip us all bare naked to the bone and we are just people.  Not gay, straight, black, white.  We are brothers and sisters.  Everyone of us.  And by God I will stand by my loved ones here, by my brothers and sisters.  It simply will not continue.  Do you believe someone actually said to me, the less said the best it should just be swept under the rug.  Well you know what?  That's what's wrong with the world regarding tolerance and biggotry now.  We've swept it under the rug.  That's real easy to do for a lot of us like you and me who aren't being descriminated against.  It's real easy for straights to say no let's not stir this mess.  Bull crap!  Not this woman.  I will stir it.  I will stand with my brothers and sisters.  BBM taught me so much and I'll never ever back down again on something like this.  I'll never be even a molecule of the reason another Ennis Delmar exists trapped in a world he cannot function in.  Never.

Sorry, I'm just so passionate about this.  There are so few things in this world we can do to make a positive change and a better world.  But we can do this.  We can!

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It is like this website I found in which they were signing a petition for banning Brokeback Mountain, and one said that it was bad because they forced him to saw it and he had gay sex! I was like come on! This is s****d! how people could say those things! I Mean when they show Boys don’t cry with Hillary Shwank did they complained? Nooooo because they were to girls I can’t understand them Two girls and Two guys together are the same!!!! I mean none of us have the right to judge anyone! We are not G-d!!!! we can’t say nothing against them! People are people despite of their sexuality and doing this things to an actor that just did a movie of a gay relationship doesn’t seems no it doesn’t seem it is not fair!!! Those people need to know that only the ones that are not sure of themselves fear what they think can affect them! And if a gay movie caused you that I think that something on the back is saying that they are that too! I’m 100% sure of my orientation and it doesn’t matter how many gay theme movies I see I’ll still be straight! But if you are gonna tell me that a movie caused that to you! Houston you have a problem!!!

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« Reply #12 on: Jul 19, 2006, 05:42 PM »
It is such an honor to do so tombul.  Such an honor. 

I've just been facing so much apathy on another BBM forum, telling me to sweep it under the rug and what's the use and just spit on it and walk away.  And I'm like, what is the matter with you people.  Why are you even on this forum if you don't even understand what this movie and this forum is supposed to be about.  Are you just going to let everything that history making film stood for die?  I mean we aren't talking the price of eggs in China here we are talking about the basic, God given, human right to love, to be loved, to be accepted and valued and just be who you are.  It's real easy for people who don't suffer these issues to be apathetic.  But apathy and being laxadasical is exactly how the world got in this shape in the first place.

This isn't a movie, this isn't Jake or Heath - THIS IS LIFE!  Life for a very large faction of the world.  This is no game.  Just how apathetical would they be if they were the ones being descriminated against? 

We will make a better world.  It's just not an option to have it any other way.

Stand up to them.  Tell them NO!  No you will NOT do this.  No we will NOT accept this.  Just plain NO!

Here is the link to my initial response to the story to begin with and that of my website. http://heathledgercentral.net/ipb/upload/index.php?showtopic=2732&pid=15679&st=0&#entry15679

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Re: PLEASE READ - DEFENDING JAKE, HEATH AND THE GAY COMMUNITY
« Reply #13 on: Jul 19, 2006, 06:03 PM »
Theresa and Carlos and the other straight members. Here is one gay man who says a big thank you. It is people like you who are non judgemental that show me there is a better future for all.

Keep fighting the good and just fight.

Tom thanks, I'm really ashamed because once upon a time I used to think like them, however, I promised myself to never let that happened again! I don't want to be like them because they are wrong. And if one of my kids (when i have them) tells me he/she is gay i would give them the support they need because I don't want them to end like them.
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« Reply #14 on: Jul 19, 2006, 06:16 PM »
Carlos I just read your earlier post about that website you visited.  I am originally from the heart of the biblebelt, literally down the street from Jerry Falwell, before I moved to LA and I was raised around some pretty horrible prejudices by, thankfully, some wonderful parents who taught me differently.  I know what you mean.  The only thing I can say about someone who makes a statement like that about seeing a film and then it turning them gay, well, ignorance rears it's ugly head.  It's complete ignorance.  I also have issues with any organization that tries to insite the banning of films, books, records or the burning of same.  It smacks of another time and another place that is simply too frightening to even consider.

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« Reply #15 on: Jul 19, 2006, 06:23 PM »
Thank you so much for your work on this matter, Theresa!

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« Reply #16 on: Jul 19, 2006, 06:25 PM »
Theresa, thanks so much for your fervor and tenacity.  I read that blurb on that site and it was offensive, especially the part referring to "the other queer from BBM".  We certainly appreciate your support and persistence in this matter.  It is all too easy to brush it off, but that's why things don't change.  We need to get it to a point where making gay jokes or using derogatory terms are not socially acceptable, even though it will undoubtedly go on, just like racial slurs and the like...

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« Reply #17 on: Jul 19, 2006, 06:27 PM »
Theresa, thank you very much for your efforts. I am sure many members here will stand up with you. And yes we can make the change together.
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« Reply #18 on: Jul 19, 2006, 06:27 PM »
Carlos I just read your earlier post about that website you visited.  I am originally from the heart of the biblebelt, literally down the street from Jerry Falwell, before I moved to LA and I was raised around some pretty horrible prejudices by, thankfully, some wonderful parents who taught me differently.  I know what you mean.  The only thing I can say about someone who makes a statement like that about seeing a film and then it turning them gay, well, ignorance rears it's ugly head.  It's complete ignorance.  I also have issues with any organization that tries to insite the banning of films, books, records or the burning of same.  It smacks of another time and another place that is simply too frightening to even consider.




One thing for sure they'll remeber that message i left them  ::) i made them clear that they were wrong too bad i don't had the link i should ask Italian_Dude
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« Reply #19 on: Jul 19, 2006, 06:39 PM »
It's an honor to stand up for what is right and to stand by my friends and loved ones.  How many times I have thought that I should be thanking my gay friends for the way they have always loved and accepted and protected me for who I am.  Never a question.  Why should it be any different for me to do the same for them? Funny isn't it that it makes a difference for a straight person to stand up.  Society has made it that way.  What a shame though.  Because my loves you shouldn't have to thank anyone, this is your God given right.  Grab it and run with it and I'm right there with you as are so many more of the straight community than you realize.  You are each and every one so completely worth it. 
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« Reply #20 on: Jul 19, 2006, 06:48 PM »
Sorry for the double post but wanted to share something really great with you.

As many of you know along with owning Heath Ledger Central, I also own a forum in support of the movie Candy (a real underdog project to which we are completely dedicated).  We have a theme song and it really pertains here.  It has run through my head the whole time we've addressed this matter today.  Please take a moment, click here, read the lyrics and see if you don't agree that it just makes you energized to do what you know is right. 

http://www.heathledgercentral.com/Stand_Theme_Of_Addicted_To_The_Movie_Candy_Support_Group.html

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« Reply #21 on: Jul 19, 2006, 06:49 PM »
It's an honor to stand up for what is right and to stand by my friends and loved ones.  How many times I have thought that I should be thanking my gay friends for the way they have always loved and accepted and protected me for who I am.  Never a question.  Why should it be any different for me to do the same for them? Funny isn't it that it makes a difference for a straight person to stand up.  Society has made it that way.  What a shame though.  Because my loves you shouldn't have to thank anyone, this is your God given right.  Grab it and run with it and I'm right there with you as are so many more of the straight community than you realize.  You are each and every one so completely worth it. 

theresa you rock!!! if we can change the minds of those who can uderstand we could certainly change the mind of those that don't understand.
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« Reply #22 on: Jul 23, 2006, 08:32 AM »
I love your letter Theresa-thank you!
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« Reply #23 on: Jul 24, 2006, 01:41 AM »
Thank you LuvJackNasty.  Brokeback taught me a lot about the world and the people who have been touched by it have taught me that I can help change it.  I'm passionate about a better world.

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« Reply #24 on: Jul 24, 2006, 03:27 AM »
Thank you LuvJackNasty.  Brokeback taught me a lot about the world and the people who have been touched by it have taught me that I can help change it.  I'm passionate about a better world.

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« Reply #25 on: Jul 24, 2006, 02:24 PM »
I don't visit those sites anyway,but yes i am on your side.Nobody should be subjected to slander but although it pains me to say it,i don't think there is much to stop this sort of slur.Sometimes stirring up attention can go the other way and people are then even more curious to see what it's all about and will then go and visit the site.

Is it the type of website that gets paid everytime it has a hit?Or is it a blog?

Thanks Theresa for sending the letter etc.Hope it gets the public apology you are seeking and i'm sure you have support here ;)

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« Reply #26 on: Jul 25, 2006, 03:45 AM »
It gets paid with every click.  So at least we can hit them in the wallet!  But I figure every huge victory starts with one tiny step.  Heck we gotta start somewhere. 

You guys have been wonderful.  See the novelty will wear off for the few that will insist on hitting it, but the boycott won't.  Our reason for not going is much more important than their reason for going and we are a lot stronger.  We have more reason to be in this case.

You guys are just the best!

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« Reply #27 on: Nov 20, 2006, 02:06 AM »
It's an honor to stand up for what is right and to stand by my friends and loved ones.  How many times I have thought that I should be thanking my gay friends for the way they have always loved and accepted and protected me for who I am.  Never a question.  Why should it be any different for me to do the same for them? ...  Because my loves you shouldn't have to thank anyone, this is your God given right. 

Hey, hey Theresa!  Whew!  This is powerful.  I thank you.

Truth is, as a (closeted) gay, that I feel so compromised by society I can't stand out front and fight.  Don't feel noble admitting this (yes the old biggotry still has these nasty effects, and I am weak, but you know these things -- tho' many parts of these amazing United States are way improved since Ennis and Jack). Like most, I act within some protective walls.

So I thank you deeply for your COUNTERBLAST.*  Amazing a movie could do so much, affecting so many in so many good ways.

Good night, and thankyou again.

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« Reply #28 on: Nov 22, 2006, 01:19 AM »
I was a little girl in the 60s and I saw an entire country change through peaceful protest.  Granted there were demonstrations and such but the violence there never came from the demonstrators.  We all have those things close to our hearts that we hide in order to protect ourselves.  Someone very precious to me is gay and must stay closeted.  I cannot say whom not because I am in any way ashamed but because this person has already suffered beatings and lives in a very unsafe area which they cannot get out of.  For this very reason, literally their life, I hold my peace and I fight this way.  We still have the boycott going and my members are just amazing.  There are many many sites that, since the time I wrote this original post, are now on our boycott and the same boycott has carried over to our Addicted To The Movie Candy website. 

You are most welcome.  It is truly my privilege.

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