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Offline lightnin flat

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1978 --1982
« on: Sep 15, 2007, 08:35 AM »

   When ennis met cassie i believe it was 1978 because the next scene was jack and laureen at the dance with randell and lashawn and the banner on the wall said 1978.             
         
      Last scene jack and ennis together i believe was in 1982 jack says to ennis all this time and you aint found no-one else to marry, ennis says i been putting the blocks to a good looking girl over in riverton.       
   So by what ennis is saying this is the first time he had told jack about cassie wich i find strange as it seems ennis went out with cassie for four years.   
           
     Also when ennis said it would be nov before i can come out here again.Jack said what the hell happened to august then ennis said i cant quit this one and i cant get the time off  it was hard enough getting this time.
     
      The trade off WAS august so ennis is talking as though august has passed so what august is jack talking about cant be august the following year, surely they would,nt have gone all that time without seeing each other.
                    Any ideas to clarify the dates and times . :t)
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Re: 1978 --1982
« Reply #1 on: Sep 15, 2007, 09:18 AM »
Hi Lightnin Flat.

Here is a link to a thread we have that goes over the timelines:

Timeline of last scenes
http://ennisjack.com/index.php?topic=968.msg9060#msg9060

I hope that helps.  :)
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Re: 1978 --1982
« Reply #2 on: Sep 15, 2007, 09:20 AM »
That's a good point about Cassie. I never really thought of their relationship in terms of years, although the movie seems to indicate they've been together for a while, from some of Cassie's remarks, etc. She's barely a footnote in the OS. But either way, I guess it wouldn't surprise me one way or another if Ennis discussed her much or not, Ennis being Ennis.

As to the comments about August, their final meeting is in the spring. They were supposed to get together again in August but Ennis bows out, because of work. So they won't be able to meet again until November. When he says "Was tough enough getting this time. The trade off was August", he means that although they were originally going to meet in spring and in August, he couldn't get time off for both those meets, so he had to choose between August and spring and he chose spring. Which makes sense to me, because he'd want to see Jack as soon as he could and put off the time they had to cancel.

Hope that helps. Just my thoughts. :)
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Re: 1978 --1982
« Reply #3 on: Sep 15, 2007, 09:41 AM »
Quote from: LuvJackNasty on Sep 15, 2007, 09:18 AM
Hi Lightnin Flat.

Here is a link to a thread we have that goes over the timelines:

Timeline of last scenes
http://ennisjack.com/index.php?topic=968.msg9060#msg9060

I hope that helps.  :)

       
               Thanks LJN i have just looked at it i am more confused than ever.thanks anyway.
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Re: 1978 --1982
« Reply #4 on: Sep 15, 2007, 09:55 AM »
Quote from: FlwrChild on Sep 15, 2007, 09:20 AM
That's a good point about Cassie. I never really thought of their relationship in terms of years, although the movie seems to indicate they've been together for a while, from some of Cassie's remarks, etc. She's barely a footnote in the OS. But either way, I guess it wouldn't surprise me one way or another if Ennis discussed her much or not, Ennis being Ennis.

As to the comments about August, their final meeting is in the spring. They were supposed to get together again in August but Ennis bows out, because of work. So they won't be able to meet again until November. When he says "Was tough enough getting this time. ", he means that although they were originally going to meet in spring and in August, he couldn't get time off for both those meets, so he had to choose between August and spring and he chose spring. Which makes sense to me, because he'd want to see Jack as soon as he could and put off the time they had to cancel.

Hope that helps. Just my thoughts. :)
                                           
The trade off was August
         This part is baffling me what does he mean by trade off is he refering to work.
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Re: 1978 --1982
« Reply #5 on: Sep 15, 2007, 10:31 AM »
Quote from: lightnin flat on Sep 15, 2007, 09:55 AM
                                           
The trade off was August
         This part is baffling me what does he mean by trade off is he refering to work.

Yes. To get the time off work in the spring in order to be at the meet in which this conversation takes place, Ennis had to trade in the time he would have taken in August.
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Re: 1978 --1982
« Reply #6 on: Sep 15, 2007, 01:22 PM »
Quote from: FlwrChild on Sep 15, 2007, 10:31 AM
Yes. To get the time off work in the spring in order to be at the meet in which this conversation takes place, Ennis had to trade in the time he would have taken in August.

                        Thank you Thank you  ^f^
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Re: 1978 --1982
« Reply #7 on: Sep 15, 2007, 01:31 PM »
You're welcome. :)
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Re: 1978 --1982
« Reply #8 on: Sep 16, 2007, 01:29 PM »
Cassie meets Ennis in 1978. She has the conversation about his not being the marrying kind ( with Alma Jr) in 1979. The scene in the diner takes place in 1981, by which time she and Ennis are through and she's picked up with Carl. The problem is that the script gives the conversation about "putting the blocks to" her at some earlier time in 1981, when Ennis uses " have been" which suggests that if it's not over it's as good as.

But then I think the dates in the screenplay are potty anyway.
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Re: 1978 --1982
« Reply #9 on: Sep 16, 2007, 02:47 PM »
Quote from: welshwitch on Sep 16, 2007, 01:29 PM
Cassie meets Ennis in 1978. She has the conversation about his not being the marrying kind ( with Alma Jr) in 1979. The scene in the diner takes place in 1981, by which time she and Ennis are through and she's picked up with Carl. The problem is that the script gives the conversation about "putting the blocks to" her at some earlier time in 1981, when Ennis uses " have been" which suggests that if it's not over it's as good as.

But then I think the dates in the screenplay are potty anyway.
 
           Hi welshwitch.
                  I think what makes it confusing is that directly after the conversation between cassie and alma jr
                     ennis drops alma off then the next scene is jack and ennis at their last meeting together .     
                           Not realising it had jumped a couple of years. :s)
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Re: 1978 --1982
« Reply #10 on: Sep 17, 2007, 07:24 AM »
Quote from: lightnin flat on Sep 16, 2007, 02:47 PM
 
           Hi welshwitch.
                  I think what makes it confusing is that directly after the conversation between cassie and alma jr
                     ennis drops alma off then the next scene is jack and ennis at their last meeting together .     
                           Not realising it had jumped a couple of years. :s)

Yes, it did feel like the two scenes were contiguous, no?  Well, in a sense, this is understandable.

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