Author Topic: News Coverage March 27 - April 2 (Read 27751 times)

tpe · « **Reply #30 on:** Mar 30, 2006, 04:32 PM »

You're welcome Pierre. I must admit that the article upsets me a bit. But what is the pointngetting upset over these people?

God will forgive them.

frances · « **Reply #31 on:** Mar 30, 2006, 06:11 PM »

This article?

I don't know whether to laugh or cry

sweet_man_1 · « **Reply #32 on:** Mar 30, 2006, 08:58 PM »

so even though i hate walmart and never shop there, i'm wondering if buying BBM there would be a good idea... seems like it to me... anyone?

LuvJackNasty · « **Reply #33 on:** Mar 30, 2006, 09:11 PM »

Quote from: ethan on Mar 30, 2006, 08:10 AM

I would say to American Family Association - Get Lost. Family-friendly? Should not be marketed to middle America? Gosh - these people scare me.

The movie is rated R and I think to be family-friendly, one should really spend the efforts for better parenting - not boycotting. Sorry I just need to vent.

tpe, thanks for posting this article.

They scare me too. There's a part of me that feels sorry for them.

ennisandjack · « **Reply #34 on:** Mar 30, 2006, 11:42 PM »

Bahamas 'Brokeback Mountain' Ban Draws Ire

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060331/ap_on_en_tv/bahamas_brokeback_banned_2

By PACO NUNEZ

NASSAU, Bahamas Mar 30, 2006 (AP)— A Bahamian government board's decision to ban the movie "Brokeback Mountain" has prompted charges of discrimination and censorship in the island chain.

Gay rights groups and others have called on the Plays and Films Control Board to reverse its decision prohibiting theaters from showing the award-winning movie about a troubled love affair between two cowboys.

"You have a group of people who are telling grown men and women what they can and cannot watch," said Philip Burrows, a theater director in the island chain. "I cannot understand denying people the right to make their own choices."

Theaters in Nassau, the capital, had already begun to advertise the movie Friday when the board announced its ban at the request of the Bahamas Christian Council.

"The board chose to ban it because it shows extreme homosexuality, nudity and profanity, and we feel that it has no value for the Bahamian public," Chavasse Turnquest-Liriano, liaison officer for the control board, said Wednesday.

The Rainbow Alliance, a gay rights group, called the ban a "farce," and said most Bahamians reject the idea that a "small group of appointed individuals … can provide the moral compass for the entire country."

Some have suggested the board could have simply issued a rating that would have barred anyone under 18 from seeing the film.

Critics also noted that even some countries where homosexuality is illegal have allowed the movie to be shown in theaters.

"This is not a movie to be banned. This is not a subject to be censored," said Bahamas resident Liz Roberts, who has worked in film production. "It is a subject to be aired, a subject to be confronted openly."

"Brokeback Mountain," which won critical acclaim and three Oscars, including best director for Ang Lee, has also been banned in mainland China. Turkey has restricted viewing to viewers over 18.

ennisandjack · « **Reply #35 on:** Mar 31, 2006, 12:22 AM »

McKELLEN BLASTS GYLLENHAAL

http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/mckellen%20blasts%20gyllenhaal_30_03_2006

SIR IAN MCKELLEN has criticised JAKE GYLLENHAAL for being apprehensive about kissing his BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN co-star HEATH LEDGER on screen. The openly gay THE LORD OF THE RINGS actor - who recently spoke out against Hollywood's old-fashioned views on sexuality - lambasted Gyllenhaal, 25, for failing to consider how his comments would be interpreted from a homosexual perspective. He says, "I got very upset when one of the actors said it was the most terrifying job he'd ever had because it involved him kissing another man. "Imagine how rude that is. Suppose I'd said the most appalling thing I ever to do was kiss HELEN MIRREN!"
30/03/2006 17:29

frances · « **Reply #36 on:** Mar 31, 2006, 02:29 AM »

Quote from: ennisandjack on Mar 31, 2006, 12:22 AM

McKELLEN BLASTS GYLLENHAAL

http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/mckellen%20blasts%20gyllenhaal_30_03_2006

SIR IAN MCKELLEN has criticised JAKE GYLLENHAAL for being apprehensive about kissing his BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN co-star HEATH LEDGER on screen. The openly gay THE LORD OF THE RINGS actor - who recently spoke out against Hollywood's old-fashioned views on sexuality - lambasted Gyllenhaal, 25, for failing to consider how his comments would be interpreted from a homosexual perspective. He says, "I got very upset when one of the actors said it was the most terrifying job he'd ever had because it involved him kissing another man. "Imagine how rude that is. Suppose I'd said the most appalling thing I ever to do was kiss HELEN MIRREN!"
30/03/2006 17:29

Has Gyllenhaal ever said that?

From NewsandStar.Co.Uk

Even so, the actor admits he did have some trepidation when it came to getting intimate with Ledger.

“I wondered if he could do those scenes,” he says. “But we talked a lot, and when it came to doing them it felt like we were both, ’Are you ready? Yeah, let’s go’ and we went straight into the deep end. We knew we had to consummate this somehow because it’s not just a story about friendship. We knew we were going to have to commit,” he adds.

Trepidation and being appaled are different things in my opinion!

frances · « **Reply #37 on:** Mar 31, 2006, 02:31 AM »

One more article.
Don't know if it has been already posted
It's an old one, actually.

I can't believe my eyes! Hilarious!

From Comingsoon.net (novembre 2003)

Ensemble Cast Joins Paul Haggis' Crash Source: Production Weekly Monday, November 3, 2003

Heath Ledger, Brendan Fraser, Eva Mendes, Don Cheadle, Forest Whitaker and Thandie Newton will star in director Paul Haggis' crime drama Crash.

The film, written by Haggis and Bobby Moresco, follows a multi-ethnic cast through the streets of Los Angeles as they careen in and out of one another's lives. The film begins with the discovery of a man's brutally murdered body on the side of the road and tracks the previous 24 hours in the lives of the eight people connected with the killing.

Shooting is scheduled to begin on December 9.

tpe · « **Reply #38 on:** Mar 31, 2006, 07:49 AM »

Quote from: frances on Mar 31, 2006, 02:31 AM

One more article.
Don't know if it has been already posted
It's an old one, actually.

I can't believe my eyes! Hilarious!

From Comingsoon.net (novembre 2003)

Ensemble Cast Joins Paul Haggis' Crash Source: Production Weekly Monday, November 3, 2003

Heath Ledger, Brendan Fraser, Eva Mendes, Don Cheadle, Forest Whitaker and Thandie Newton will star in director Paul Haggis' crime drama Crash.

The film, written by Haggis and Bobby Moresco, follows a multi-ethnic cast through the streets of Los Angeles as they careen in and out of one another's lives. The film begins with the discovery of a man's brutally murdered body on the side of the road and tracks the previous 24 hours in the lives of the eight people connected with the killing.

Shooting is scheduled to begin on December 9.

Yes, this is indeed hilarious!

I think it was good for Heath that he got BBM instead.

tpe · « **Reply #39 on:** Mar 31, 2006, 08:50 AM »

Quote from: frances on Mar 31, 2006, 02:29 AM

Quote from: ennisandjack on Mar 31, 2006, 12:22 AM
McKELLEN BLASTS GYLLENHAAL

http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/mckellen%20blasts%20gyllenhaal_30_03_2006

SIR IAN MCKELLEN has criticised JAKE GYLLENHAAL for being apprehensive about kissing his BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN co-star HEATH LEDGER on screen. The openly gay THE LORD OF THE RINGS actor - who recently spoke out against Hollywood's old-fashioned views on sexuality - lambasted Gyllenhaal, 25, for failing to consider how his comments would be interpreted from a homosexual perspective. He says, "I got very upset when one of the actors said it was the most terrifying job he'd ever had because it involved him kissing another man. "Imagine how rude that is. Suppose I'd said the most appalling thing I ever to do was kiss HELEN MIRREN!"
30/03/2006 17:29

Has Gyllenhaal ever said that?

From NewsandStar.Co.Uk

Even so, the actor admits he did have some trepidation when it came to getting intimate with Ledger.

“I wondered if he could do those scenes,” he says. “But we talked a lot, and when it came to doing them it felt like we were both, ’Are you ready? Yeah, let’s go’ and we went straight into the deep end. We knew we had to consummate this somehow because it’s not just a story about friendship. We knew we were going to have to commit,” he adds.

Trepidation and being appaled are different things in my opinion!

I just read the article. Thanks for posting it.

I am always reluctant to discuss Gyllenhaal's sexuality or aspects pertaining to it. But given that he is straight, I would understand some apprehension of doing multiple passionate kisses with someone he really doesn't have a romantic entanglement with in real life -- let alone someone of the same sex.

I admire his honesty, if he did express apprehension/terror. And I admire the fact that he did do the kissing scenes, and did them beautifully.

Being a Jake fan, perhaps I am biased.

tpe · « **Reply #40 on:** Mar 31, 2006, 09:12 AM »

Quote from: ennisandjack on Mar 31, 2006, 12:22 AM

McKELLEN BLASTS GYLLENHAAL

http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/mckellen%20blasts%20gyllenhaal_30_03_2006

SIR IAN MCKELLEN has criticised JAKE GYLLENHAAL for being apprehensive about kissing his BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN co-star HEATH LEDGER on screen. The openly gay THE LORD OF THE RINGS actor - who recently spoke out against Hollywood's old-fashioned views on sexuality - lambasted Gyllenhaal, 25, for failing to consider how his comments would be interpreted from a homosexual perspective. He says, "I got very upset when one of the actors said it was the most terrifying job he'd ever had because it involved him kissing another man. "Imagine how rude that is. Suppose I'd said the most appalling thing I ever to do was kiss HELEN MIRREN!"
30/03/2006 17:29

And for the record, the above is not the first instance when Gyllenhaal had expressed similar feelings for totally understandable reasons. It sheds some light as to why he could have felt some trepidation at the then upcoming BBM kissing scenes:

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From http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/jake%20gyllenhaal.s%20unpleasant%20same.sex%20kiss

JAKE GYLLENHAAL'S UNPLEASANT SAME-SEX KISS
24/05/2004 09:17

THE GOOD GIRL star JAKE GYLLENHAAL's first man-on-man kissing scene proved to be an unsanitary experience - because his lips were left covered in dead skin.

Gyllenhaal is currently shooting his role as HEATH LEDGER's gay cowboy lover in BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN, and he admits that while he and the Australian screen star have yet to lock lips, his previous experience with another actor made the upcoming scene even more off-putting.

He says, "I have kissed another actor in another scene. He had acne. He'd been taking ACUTANE, the acne medicine, so his skin was really dry.

"I remember us both really not wanting to do it and I remember when we had to kiss eventually, it was like I just had dead skin all over my lip. It was disgusting! As if it wasn't bad enough already!"

bram · « **Reply #41 on:** Mar 31, 2006, 09:15 AM »

I admire his honesty, too. We don't want him to lie, do we? If he felt apprehensive about it, then he can't help that. He still did it, didn't he?

tpe · « **Reply #42 on:** Mar 31, 2006, 09:22 AM »

Quote from: bram on Mar 31, 2006, 09:15 AM

I admire his honesty, too. We don't want him to lie, do we? If he felt apprehensive about it, then he can't help that. He still did it, didn't he?

Truth to tell, bram, I admire more than just his honesty. [blush].

Seriously, I certainly don't want him to lie. We're grown up and we can handle this.

Lost_Girl · « **Reply #43 on:** Mar 31, 2006, 09:27 AM »

I totally agree. Thanks for posting it.

mélisande · « **Reply #44 on:** Mar 31, 2006, 09:39 AM »

yaiks :o

..like he said: "One word: Exfoliate." Being an actor is maybe tuffer job than we know

..or maybe they both were little embarrassed about soo intimate kissing scenes, and at the same time hearing hundreds of bad jokes about BBM.

(Not long ago there was an article on Le Figaro Hommes "Ils osent tout" about men being metrosexuals - using more cosmetics.. not any news, I know, but there was Jake Gyllenhaal's name mentioned.. like an example

)

(Maybe McKellen just want some publicity..thats why..)
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Quote:
From NewsandStar.Co.Uk

Even so, the actor admits he did have some trepidation when it came to getting intimate with Ledger.

“I wondered if he could do those scenes,” he says. “But we talked a lot, and when it came to doing them it felt like we were both, ’Are you ready? Yeah, let’s go’ and we went straight into the deep end. We knew we had to consummate this somehow because it’s not just a story about friendship. We knew we were going to have to commit,” he adds.
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How beatifully said. Thank you for posting it frances. :'(

tpe · « **Reply #45 on:** Mar 31, 2006, 09:41 AM »

Quote from: mélisande on Mar 31, 2006, 09:39 AM

(Maybe McKellen just want some publicity..thats why..)

mélisande, this is probably true.

dirtbiker · « **Reply #46 on:** Mar 31, 2006, 11:48 AM »

These articles sicken me. Well, this country was populated by the Purtian zealots ostracized from their home countries in the 1600's. It's been over 300 years and such attitudes still exist. Maybe we can put something in their water to make them STOP BREEDING!

(P/S I don't mean the articles about McKellen)

ennisandjack · « **Reply #47 on:** Mar 31, 2006, 02:26 PM »

Quote from: tpe on Mar 31, 2006, 09:12 AM

From http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/jake%20gyllenhaal.s%20unpleasant%20same.sex%20kiss

JAKE GYLLENHAAL'S UNPLEASANT SAME-SEX KISS
24/05/2004 09:17

THE GOOD GIRL star JAKE GYLLENHAAL's first man-on-man kissing scene proved to be an unsanitary experience - because his lips were left covered in dead skin.

Gyllenhaal is currently shooting his role as HEATH LEDGER's gay cowboy lover in BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN, and he admits that while he and the Australian screen star have yet to lock lips, his previous experience with another actor made the upcoming scene even more off-putting.

He says, "I have kissed another actor in another scene. He had acne. He'd been taking ACUTANE, the acne medicine, so his skin was really dry.

"I remember us both really not wanting to do it and I remember when we had to kiss eventually, it was like I just had dead skin all over my lip. It was disgusting! As if it wasn't bad enough already!"

Does anyone know what movie he's talking about? I don't know of another movie Jake's been in where he kisses another guy.

bram · « **Reply #48 on:** Mar 31, 2006, 02:29 PM »

I don't know what movie he's talking about either. I'm gonna go to imdb and try to figure it out.

tpe · « **Reply #49 on:** Mar 31, 2006, 02:40 PM »

I am suspecting that it is not a Gyllenhaal film. I am suspecting that he is referring to a scene from the London production of 'This Is Our Youth'. The time frame is about right. But I cannot recall the specifics of the play -- if it does indeed call for such as scene.

Can someone in Theatre verify this?

chameau · « **Reply #50 on:** Mar 31, 2006, 05:39 PM »

Quote from: tpe on Mar 31, 2006, 02:40 PM

I am suspecting that it is not a Gyllenhaal film. I am suspecting that he is referring to a scene from the London production of 'This Is Our Youth'. The time frame is about right. But I cannot recall the specifics of the play -- if it does indeed call for such as scene.

Can someone in Theatre verify this?

Gyllenhaal really played in The Good Girl

tpe · « **Reply #51 on:** Apr 01, 2006, 01:47 PM »

Quote from: chameau on Mar 31, 2006, 05:39 PM

Quote from: tpe on Mar 31, 2006, 02:40 PM
I am suspecting that it is not a Gyllenhaal film. I am suspecting that he is referring to a scene from the London production of 'This Is Our Youth'. The time frame is about right. But I cannot recall the specifics of the play -- if it does indeed call for such as scene.

Can someone in Theatre verify this?

Gyllenhaal really played in The Good Girl

Hi Pierre,

I guessed I missed this one yesterday.

Are you familiar with 'This is Our Youth'? Jake staarred in the London production in 2003 (?) and I think when he discussed kissing an actor in the above article, he was referring to a scene in this play, although I am not sure...

bram · « **Reply #52 on:** Apr 01, 2006, 02:21 PM »

Quote from: chameau on Mar 31, 2006, 05:39 PM

Gyllenhaal really played in The Good Girl

I just watched that movie last night. It was a lot better than I thought it would be, though I couldn't sleep afterward. It was too depressing and gave me insomnia.

tpe · « **Reply #53 on:** Apr 01, 2006, 05:23 PM »

Quote from: bram on Apr 01, 2006, 02:21 PM

Quote from: chameau on Mar 31, 2006, 05:39 PM
Gyllenhaal really played in The Good Girl

I just watched that movie last night. It was a lot better than I thought it would be, though I couldn't sleep afterward. It was too depressing and gave me insomnia.

God, bram, the first time I watched this movie, I couldn't sleep for days. His character here is haunting. It haunts me even to this day. When I first saw BBM, I had to exorcise the image of Holden Worther from Jack Twist.

It's hard to do this.

frenchcda · « **Reply #54 on:** Apr 01, 2006, 05:51 PM »

Collection of Articles or Critics Objecting to Brokeback Snub (from IMDB)

Kenneth Turin, LA Times, "Breaking no ground" (March 6, 2006):
http://theenvelope.latimes.com/awards/oscars/env-turan5mar05,0,5359042.story

Awards Tracking Database, "A Smudge on Oscar History" (March 6, 2006):
http://www.awardstracking.com/

Erik Lundegaard, MSNBC, "Oscar misfire: ‘Crash’ and burn" (March 6, 2006):
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11700333/

The Brokeback Snub, Afterelton.com (March 7, 2006)
http://www.afterelton.com/movies/2006/3/snub.html

The Gold Derby, "And the Winner is . . . homophobia?" (March 6, 2006)
http://goldderby.latimes.com/

Stephen King, Analyzing Oscar, Entertainment Weekly (March 9, 2006)
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/commentary/0,6115,1170378_1_0_,00.html

Gene Stone: Hollywood Hardly Hearts Homosexuals (March 7, 2006)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20060307/cm_huffpost/016886;_ylt=A86.I2ABuA1EszAAsAP9wxIF;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN1YmNhdA--

Jeffrey Wells, Hollywood Elsewhere, Different Enough?
http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/archives/2006/03/for_shame_i_wan.php

Hollywood isn't being straight with gay community, Boston Globe (March 7, 2006)
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2006/03/07/hollywood_isnt_being_straight_with_gay_community/

San Francisco Chronicle, OSCAR ANALYSIS: Theories abound on why 'Crash' won best picture (March 7, 2006)
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/03/07/OSCARS.TMP

Industry insiders comment on the result, NY Times, March 7, 2006
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/07/movies/redcarpet/07osca.html?hp&ex=114170760\%3Cbr%3E0&en=f9bcd4f56177090d&ei=5094&partner=homepage

More casual commentary, USA today "Intersection of events helped Crash" (March 6, 2006)
http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/movieawards/oscars/2006-03-06-crash-postmortem_x.htm

General Associated Press Coverage, Was There a 'Brokeback' Backlash? (March 6, 2006)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060306/ap_en_mo/oscar_upset_3;_ylt=An9NcwRDxysmU1aCSR0Hyzt8FxkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA2ZGZwam4yBHNlYwNmYw--

London Times, "Uneasy Hollywood chooses race relations over gay cowboy drama" (March 7, 2006)
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,19133-2072699,00.html

David Poland Blog on the subject, Hot Button (March 6, 2006)
http://www.thehotbutton.com/today/hot.button/2006_thb/060306_mon.html

A blog on the subject (March 5, 2006):
http://clydestuff.blogspot.com/2006/03/my-final-thoughts-about-academy-awards.html#links

Ebert's defenses of "Best Picture" Crash:

Roger Ebert lashes out at critics of Crash and names names! (March 6, 2006)
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060306/OSCARS/603070301

Strangely, Ebert seems to have taken Crash on as a cause. Earlier this year he again defended the movie against critics (January 18, 2006):
http://www.laweekly.com/index.php?option=com_lawcontent&task=view&id=12416&Itemid=47

Historial Perspective on Oscar mistakes:

This is far from the first "Academy" blooper. London Telegraph (March 4, 2006):
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2006/03/04/bfoscars04.xml

And from earlier, bias and bigotry among "Academy" members:

Nikki Finke, LA Weekly, How Gay Will Oscar Go?" (February 1, 2006):
http://www.laweekly.com/deadline-hollywood/12564/how-gay-will-oscar-go/

Gore Vidal, in an Interview pre-Oscar, on Brokeback and other subjects (March 3, 2006):
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20060303_gore_vidal_sex_oscars/

For reference, here are the two original New York Times reviews of the films:

Original New York Times Reviews of the two films:

Original NY Times review of Crash (May 6, 2005)
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/06/movies/x06cras.html?ex=1146888000&en=ab9c464bf3c29946&ei=5083&partner=Rotten%20Tomatoes

Original NY Times review of Brokeback Mountain (December 9, 2005)
http://movies2.nytimes.com/2005/12/09/movies/09brok.html?ex=1141880400&en=7757846e4a2865f9&ei=5070

tpe · « **Reply #55 on:** Apr 01, 2006, 06:31 PM »

Thank you, frenchcda. This will come in handy on the Last Judgement -- we need to be able to divide the sheep from the goats!

And BTW, Ebert and Roeper are pieces of SH*T.

frances · « **Reply #56 on:** Apr 01, 2006, 07:01 PM »

Quote from: frenchcda on Apr 01, 2006, 05:51 PM

Strangely, Ebert seems to have taken Crash on as a cause. Earlier this year he again defended the movie against critics (January 18, 2006):
http://www.laweekly.com/index.php?option=com_lawcontent&task=view&id=12416&Itemid=47

Scott Foundas's article is absolutely right on the mark :

"The characters in Crash don’t feel like three-dimensional, flesh-and-blood human beings so much as calculated “types” plugged by Haggis into a schematic thesis about how we are all, in the course of any given day, the perpetrators and the victims of some racial prejudice"

chameau · « **Reply #57 on:** Apr 01, 2006, 07:02 PM »

Quote

And BTW, Ebert and Roeper are pieces of SH*T.

OMG!

tpe · « **Reply #58 on:** Apr 01, 2006, 07:06 PM »

Quote from: frances on Apr 01, 2006, 07:01 PM

Quote from: frenchcda on Apr 01, 2006, 05:51 PM

Strangely, Ebert seems to have taken Crash on as a cause. Earlier this year he again defended the movie against critics (January 18, 2006):
http://www.laweekly.com/index.php?option=com_lawcontent&task=view&id=12416&Itemid=47

Scott Foundas's article is absolutely right on the mark :

"The characters in Crash don’t feel like three-dimensional, flesh-and-blood human beings so much as calculated “types” plugged by Haggis into a schematic thesis about how we are all, in the course of any given day, the perpetrators and the victims of some racial prejudice"

Can anything this contrived be worth the calculation?

I love this article.

frances · « **Reply #59 on:** Apr 01, 2006, 07:18 PM »

Quote from: chameau on Apr 01, 2006, 07:02 PM

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And BTW, Ebert and Roeper are pieces of SH*T.

OMG!

Yes indeed! Gentleman Tpe, you surprised me!