Topic: First Night In Tent

[welshwitch]

I'm a bit worried - you mean twenty-seven seconds is QUICK?

Actuall I'm more worried about some people who need to get a life - imagine watching FNIT more than once. The fact that the YouTube clips of this got worn out before the DVD came out in the UK has nothing to do with me...

And I've spent ages trying to get it lighter, all in the interests of fully appreciating the cinematography - finally found a thing callled ABIT which let me mess with the colour balance, contrast and brightness in synch...

[NoReins]

I'm a bit worried - you mean twenty-seven seconds is QUICK?

Actuall I'm more worried about some people who need to get a life - imagine watching FNIT more than once. The fact that the YouTube clips of this got worn out before the DVD came out in the UK has nothing to do with me...

And I've spent ages trying to get it lighter, all in the interests of fully appreciating the cinematography - finally found a thing callled ABIT which let me mess with the colour balance, contrast and brightness in synch...

The youtube clips are worn out? :o What am I supposed to do when I need a BBM fix at work now?

[karen1129]

I'm a bit worried - you mean twenty-seven seconds is QUICK?

Actuall I'm more worried about some people who need to get a life - imagine watching FNIT more than once. The fact that the YouTube clips of this got worn out before the DVD came out in the UK has nothing to do with me...

And I've spent ages trying to get it lighter, all in the interests of fully appreciating the cinematography - finally found a thing callled ABIT which let me mess with the colour balance, contrast and brightness in synch...

LOL.  I'm down to watching FNIT, SNIT and Reunion scene only once a night now.  Was about 6 times a night up until
a week ago ! :D  It's all been strictly for the purpose of research too.  In case anybody asked me about it !
That way I could talk intelligently about any questions they might have.      After I take a cold shower !

I'm going to have to check out ABIT.  I still have trouble with color on my laptop.

[karen1129]

I'm a bit worried - you mean twenty-seven seconds is QUICK?

Actuall I'm more worried about some people who need to get a life - imagine watching FNIT more than once. The fact that the YouTube clips of this got worn out before the DVD came out in the UK has nothing to do with me...

And I've spent ages trying to get it lighter, all in the interests of fully appreciating the cinematography - finally found a thing callled ABIT which let me mess with the colour balance, contrast and brightness in synch...

The youtube clips are worn out? :o What am I supposed to do when I need a BBM fix at work now?

Everytime I tried to watch it at work, one of the guys comes walking by and says.... what's that?
I say... whut !!!

[keren_b]

Everytime I tried to watch it at work, one of the guys comes walking by and says.... what's that?
I say... whut !!!

I don't dare watching clips at work, they already think I'm crazy after I downloaded a BBM background to the desktop and printed a big pic of Heath to put on my wall. I try to hide the fact that half of the time I'm here reading posts, if I start watching clips they's hospitalize me  :-\

[karen1129]

Well, I can't help it.  I love FNIT.  I admit..... I'm addicted.  Just wish it had been longer !

[Patriot1]

Well, I can't help it.  I love FNIT.  I admit..... I'm addicted.  Just wish it had been longer !

To me this is so funny.  Here, a gay guy doesn't get any kind of arousal at all and a girl can't stop watching it.  LOL!!!!

Karen, if it is hot action you are looking for, just go to your local adult bookstore and buy a video.  LOL!!!!
Although I wouldn't play it at work.  In those videos the lights are on BRIGHT and you can see everything.  LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rønnaug]

Karen, if it is hot action you are looking for, just go to your local adult bookstore and buy a video.  LOL!!!!

well patriot sweetie...NOT THE SAME THING.... the allure is the fact that you DON'T see everything

(those vids are as dumb as the straight versions I hear people got)

[karen1129]

Karen, if it is hot action you are looking for, just go to your local adult bookstore and buy a video.  LOL!!!!

well patriot sweetie...NOT THE SAME THING.... the allure is the fact that you DON'T see everything

(those vids are as dumb as the straight versions I hear people got)

You are right Esme.  It is not the same.
I think what makes this whole scene more alluring is indeed what you don't see, and mostly the
story itself.  I would have been just as moved by this movie about Jack and Ennis without FNIT.
I'm glad I didn't have do to without  it mind you !!!  I find their intimacy both hot and sweet at the
same time.  It is also still hard for me to watch the ending of the movie.  I find I want to re-live
their happy times.  And, yes......  I do drool over the tent scenes !!! I guess I'm a smut puppy !
It most certainly doesn't hurt that Jake and Heath are hot as hell !!

[Patriot1]

Karen1129, you are female so doesn't that make you a smut kitten?  I thought smut puppies were boys...no?

I have a question about 1st night i tent scene.  When the boys are on their knees and Jack decides to take his coat off, with his left hand he brings it to his chest and the away from his chest.  Then he brings his hand back to his chest again and unbuttons his coat, opens it and takes it off.  What was that first thing he did?  It looked like he was pulling a draw string or something before he unbuttons it. It happens very fast so you have to be watching for it.  Just before Ennis says "what are you doing."

[Rønnaug]

What was that first thing he did?  It looked like he was pulling a draw string or something before he unbuttons it. It happens very fast so you have to be watching for it.  Just before Ennis says "what are you doing."

I think he was pulling on a string as you say... the coat had buttons and a "flap" that you tie with a string

[Patriot1]

What was that first thing he did?  It looked like he was pulling a draw string or something before he unbuttons it. It happens very fast so you have to be watching for it.  Just before Ennis says "what are you doing."

I think he was pulling on a string as you say... the coat had buttons and a "flap" that you tie with a string

Flap?  What flap is this?  I keep watching the first third of the movie over and over looking for hanging strings that he might have pulled on but I can't ever see anything. It looks like a normal coat with buttons to me.

[Rønnaug]

What was that first thing he did?  It looked like he was pulling a draw string or something before he unbuttons it. It happens very fast so you have to be watching for it.  Just before Ennis says "what are you doing."

I think he was pulling on a string as you say... the coat had buttons and a "flap" that you tie with a string

Flap?  What flap is this?  I keep watching the first third of the movie over and over looking for hanging strings that he might have pulled on but I can't ever see anything. It looks like a normal coat with buttons to me.

  No flap, looks like he misses the button the first time

[Patriot1]

What was that first thing he did?  It looked like he was pulling a draw string or something before he unbuttons it. It happens very fast so you have to be watching for it.  Just before Ennis says "what are you doing."

I think he was pulling on a string as you say... the coat had buttons and a "flap" that you tie with a string

Flap?  What flap is this?  I keep watching the first third of the movie over and over looking for hanging strings that he might have pulled on but I can't ever see anything. It looks like a normal coat with buttons to me.

  No flap, looks like he misses the button the first time

Ahhhhhhh!  Yes, that would explain it.  Thanks Esme.

[NoReins]

I've got a question about FNIT too.

When they first get up to their knees and Jack grabs Ennis's jacket, there's a brief pause before Jack goes to take his jacket off. He seems to be looking deep into Ennis's eyes and holding on to Ennis with his right hand, but what does he do with his left? It appears to me that he takes Ennis's right hand and, presumably, puts it on his crotch to leave Ennis in no doubt about what he wants. Does anyone else see this? Or does anyone have another explanation for what is happening during that pause?

[Patriot1]

I've got a question about FNIT too.

When they first get up to their knees and Jack grabs Ennis's jacket, there's a brief pause before Jack goes to take his jacket off. He seems to be looking deep into Ennis's eyes and holding on to Ennis with his right hand, but what does he do with his left? It appears to me that he takes Ennis's right hand and, presumably, puts it on his crotch to leave Ennis in no doubt about what he wants. Does anyone else see this? Or does anyone have another explanation for what is happening during that pause?

Well, I just watched it a dozen times and it looks to me that he puts his hand on his hip or upper thigh.  Just a guess though because his hand is so far below the frame.

[Rønnaug]

Well, I just watched it a dozen times and it looks to me that he puts his hand on his hip or upper thigh.  Just a guess though because his hand is so far below the frame.

I agree that it looks like this, cause it looks to far behind to be on his crotch, question is tho, where is Ennis left hand at? cause it is pretty far over on Jack...

[Patriot1]

Well, I just watched it a dozen times and it looks to me that he puts his hand on his hip or upper thigh.  Just a guess though because his hand is so far below the frame.

I agree that it looks like this, cause it looks to far behind to be on his crotch, question is tho, where is Ennis left hand at? cause it is pretty far over on Jack...

Once again, his hand is so far below the frame that it is impossible to tell.  But, when you look at his shoulder, his upper arm, and how far they are back, I would guess his hand is by his side or more likely on his own right thigh.

Halt!  I just realized you said LEFT hand.  Got to go and look again.

Okay.  From the angle of the left upper arm, it looks like Ennis' left hand could be on Jack's left thigh or in Jack's lap but not on his crotch. I doubt Ennis would jump up because his hand is on Jack's crotch and then sit there with his hand on Jack's crotch. But I just can not tell.  Way too far below the frame.

[karen1129]

Well, I just watched it a dozen times and it looks to me that he puts his hand on his hip or upper thigh.  Just a guess though because his hand is so far below the frame.

I agree that it looks like this, cause it looks to far behind to be on his crotch, question is tho, where is Ennis left hand at? cause it is pretty far over on Jack...

I felt Jack was putting Ennis's hand on his crotch at this point too, but it does look a little too far away from his crotch.
Jack had already put Ennis' hand on his crotch before they sat up anyway, so I'm thinking he already knew
Jack was aroused, and what his intentions were !   The rodeo was on !

[shieldmaid]

My goodness, this is an intriguing possibility.  Research must be done immediately.    I hadn't ever noticed their hand position before--too busy checking out their approaching kiss.

Another question:  Does Jack start to flip Ennis over here, before Ennis takes the lead (so to speak) and flips Jack over instead?  Is he moving toward that possibility but then quickly acquiesces to Ennis's wishes?

[Rønnaug]

Another question:  Does Jack start to flip Ennis over here, before Ennis takes the lead (so to speak) and flips Jack over instead? 

I don't think so..I think he waits to see if he will get a kick or a ...something else in return, he started it, now gonna see if it worked

[shieldmaid]

Thanks, Esme; I agree with you.  Someone mentioned the possibility that Jack intended to be "on top" elsewhere, but I haven't been able to see it when watching the film myself.  Linked to the short story, I guess: "Ennis ran full-throttle on all roads whether fence mending or money spending." 

[Patriot1]

My goodness, this is an intriguing possibility.  Research must be done immediately.    I hadn't ever noticed their hand position before--too busy checking out their approaching kiss.

Another question:  Does Jack start to flip Ennis over here, before Ennis takes the lead (so to speak) and flips Jack over instead?  Is he moving toward that possibility but then quickly acquiesces to Ennis's wishes?

Now that is an intreguing question.  Jack, using his right hand, puts his right hand under Ennis' right upper arm.  I am sitting here trying to think of what Jack could do in that position.  He couldn't flip Ennis on his stomach, Jack would be in the way as Ennis fell to the floor of the tent.  He could flip Ennis around and onto his back.  Then, there are two possibilites available once he got Ennis' pants down.

But no, I don't think that what he was doing.  I think if he pulled Ennis by his right arm Ennis would have come over on top of Jack and they would have ended up in the same position they were in with Ennis on the top.

[Rønnaug]

Thinking about this I am getting to the point where I think Jack wanted Ennis to take the lead... Jack initiated it and was grascious enough to stop and wait... he holds Ennis face and looks like he wants to kiss him, but Ennis does hold Jacks head to. And wanting to kiss the guy IMO is pretty different from putting his hand on your c*ck...

I think he wanted Ennis to be slightly more comfortable ...wrong word... feel less picked up and like a woman ...really stupid way of putting it but can't figure out what is the best way to say what I mean..... but I think he deliberatly waited to see what Ennis would do, and when Ennis didn't punch his lights out he made another step forward...unbuckling his belt (btw THE most sexy thing) and then letting Ennis take over. Not so sure Ennis would have agreed to be...recieving the first time, that might have truly been a one shot thing then.

[karen1129]

Another question:  Does Jack start to flip Ennis over here, before Ennis takes the lead (so to speak) and flips Jack over instead? 

I don't think so..I think he waits to see if he will get a kick or a ...something else in return, he started it, now gonna see if it worked

I think after Jack took his coat off, and then they held each others head, thinking about kissing, Jack knew at
that point Ennis would probably be willing to do something !   He figured he would unbuckle and unzip his
pants and see how much further it would go.  LIttle did he know, he would be flipped and banged to within
an inch of his life !
I don't think either one complained afterwards. 

[Rønnaug]

He figured he would unbuckle and unzip his
pants and see how much further it would go.  LIttle did he know, he would be flipped and banged to within
an inch of his life !
I don't think either one complained afterwards. 

within an inch of his life hehe... I don't think he woulda settled for anything less after Ennis NOT hitting him

And I don't think Ennis complained either, but what does Ennis do the next day?? ?? ?? To me that would have been as bad as a complaint... but thats another thread

[karen1129]

Has any scene  ( about 30 seconds at that) in  the history of film been analyzed as much as FNIT? :o

[Rønnaug]

Has any scene  ( about 30 seconds at that) in  the history of film been analyzed as much as FNIT? :o

I am sure it has, but Brokeback is still young

[karen1129]

Has any scene  ( about 30 seconds at that) in  the history of film been analyzed as much as FNIT? :o

I am sure it has, but Brokeback is still young

Thank goodmess for headphones and slow motion !  Ya gotta listen to that scene with headphones !

[CrimsonSky]

I've got a question about FNIT too.

When they first get up to their knees and Jack grabs Ennis's jacket, there's a brief pause before Jack goes to take his jacket off. He seems to be looking deep into Ennis's eyes and holding on to Ennis with his right hand, but what does he do with his left? It appears to me that he takes Ennis's right hand and, presumably, puts it on his crotch to leave Ennis in no doubt about what he wants. Does anyone else see this? Or does anyone have another explanation for what is happening during that pause?

i've always thought that Jack puts Ennis's hand on his crotch, but I did notice that, as others have said, that his hand didn't seem to be in quite the right place, but I put that down to Jake, when they were filming it, thinking that it was near enough to give the impression Ennis's hand was on Jack's crotch (and, in fairness to him, he can't have imagined that people would be analysing it in such minute detail! :-[ :-[ :-[)

But, I've just watched it again, and seen it completely different this time: Jack doesn't take Ennis's hand, Ennis's hand is already on Jack's lower arm as a result of their struggle. All Jack does is pull his arm back, with Ennis's hand on it, then (I'm guessing here, cause you can't actually see), places his arm so that it's directly between his groin and Ennis's hand,and starts to pull his arm away. The pause you mention, NoReins, and the way Jack is looking at Ennis,is (imo) Jack daring Ennis to move his hand away. When he doesn't (well, who would?! ), Jack sees it as the 'green light' to go ahead  At that point, Jack pulls his arm away and atarts taking off his jacket, and you see Ennis's arm sort of drop(and his hand presumably landing in Jack's lap! ), as a result of Jack pulling his arm away.