Topic: Italiano - Italian

[malawix]

Vi siete raccontati anche questo qui, prima del mio arrivo? Tipo che lavoro fa ciascuno di voi? Io per esempio sono un commesso/schiavo in un negozio di oggettistica & arredamento che la mia bossarchitetta/schiavista chiama di "design".. per me sono solo cazzarole & futilità...

Tipo questo?

Esattamente! Tipo questo! Ciao frances fabio coguaro rilla...

[Ginevra]

Il mio sogno ingenuo sarebbe fare lo scrittore ma con la mia dislessia e semi-analfabetismo letterario sarebbe un po' imarazzante!! Potrei scrivere qualche manuale magari 

niente affatto! Proabilmente scriveresti best-sellers uno dietro l'altro..... Buona l'idea del manuale. Già, un manuale di sopravvivenza a qualcosa......Ma cosa? :o

[Ginevra]

Ma quale dislessia, Doc?

noi aspiranti scrittori ci sentiamo sempre inadeguati, Frances.....

[Ginevra]

Il fatto di essere internazionale, Ginevra credo sia una delle ricchezze più grandi di questo forum.

sono anni che frequento forum, anche internazionali, ma l'unica lingua ammessa è sempre stato l'inglese.....trovo questo caos lingustico assolutamente irresistibile...

[Rilla]

Yo también quiero ser escritora!!!

Ciao a tutti li bambini!!!! 

Ginebra...Maurice me la baje del internet, la imagen no está del todo bien y la cortan antes de tiempo, quiere decir que los úlitmios minutos de peli no los he visto. 
Tienes razón, Clive, pobrecillo....pero como te digo la última parte de la peli me parece excesivamente superficial (Clive quiero decir) con ese peinado y ese bigote tan distinto al joven que fue... ... no parecía que Maurice le importara mucho....pero coincido contigo en que le amaba, tenía que ser asi, no obstante me cuesta imaginarme que uno pueda amar y ser tan indiferente, porque Ennis "a su manera" le demostraba a Jack que le amaba y cuánto!!!  Jack lo sabía, sabía que Ennis le amaba (lo contrario al amor no es el odio sino la indiferencia)......... Clive se volvió indiferente....es terriblemente triste ver lo mal que deja a Maurice la ruptura con Clive....pero menos mal que sale adelante...

[Androclo]

Il mio sogno ingenuo sarebbe fare lo scrittore ma con la mia dislessia e semi-analfabetismo letterario sarebbe un po' imarazzante!! Potrei scrivere qualche manuale magari 
 

..ma no Cog, se ti senti di scrivere lo devi fare, non importa il tuo bagaglio, magari riesci a trasmettere qualche cosa di innovativo. Anch'io avevo paura, eppure mi sono messo a scrivere, ne avevo bisogno da tempo e il film, con la tempesta emotiva che mi ha scatenato, mi ha dato il la per partire ...ora sono fermo perchè sono molto impegnato, ma appena posso, lo riprendo....

[Androclo]

..oggi si conversa in tranquillità....

[coguaro]

Il mio sogno ingenuo sarebbe fare lo scrittore ma con la mia dislessia e semi-analfabetismo letterario sarebbe un po' imarazzante!! Potrei scrivere qualche manuale magari 

mi sono auto-quotato proprio per evidenziare la dislessia! 

quando al manuale Ginevra...vediamo mmm tipo "Come affrontare la post-Brokeback mountain syndrome" 

[Ginevra]

Ginebra...Maurice me la baje del internet, la imagen no está del todo bien y la cortan antes de tiempo, quiere decir que los úlitmios minutos de peli no los he visto. 

 :o :o :o What a pity, Rilla!!!! You should go and rent/buy the DVD!!! Please, please, do it!!! It's worthwhile!!!

Tienes razón, Clive, pobrecillo....pero como te digo la última parte de la peli me parece excesivamente superficial (Clive quiero decir) con ese peinado y ese bigote tan distinto al joven que fue... ... no parecía que Maurice le importara mucho....pero coincido contigo en que le amaba, tenía que ser asi, no obstante me cuesta imaginarme que uno pueda amar y ser tan indiferente, porque Ennis "a su manera" le demostraba a Jack que le amaba y cuánto!!!  Jack lo sabía, sabía que Ennis le amaba (lo contrario al amor no es el odio sino la indiferencia)......... Clive se volvió indiferente....es terriblemente triste ver lo mal que deja a Maurice la ruptura con Clive....pero menos mal que sale adelante...

I have to disagree. Clive didn't turn indifferent. He had to behave that way. It wasn't bigotry, it was jealousy in my opinion. Clive was sort of shot dead when Maurice told him he was going to leave with Alec. And I'm sure Maurice knew Clive loved him. You shouldn't compare the way Ennis and Clive showed their own feelings. The context is waaaay too different....Just my two cents, anyway... But you're right...this is a very sad story....I'd have liked to see Clive chasing Maurice and stopping him. But that would have been unrealistically sappy. 

[Ginevra]

quando al manuale Ginevra...vediamo mmm tipo "Come affrontare la post-Brokeback mountain syndrome" 

idea carina. Di nicchia, ma molto, molto carina.

[malawix]

"They taught all of us so much, not just about the gay men and women whose love is denied by society but, just as importantly, about the greatness of love itself." (Ang Lee su Ennis & Jack)

Così, per rinfrescarci un po' la memoria... 

[Rilla]

Ginebra...Maurice me la baje del internet, la imagen no está del todo bien y la cortan antes de tiempo, quiere decir que los úlitmios minutos de peli no los he visto. 

 :o :o :o What a pity, Rilla!!!! You should go and rent/buy the DVD!!! Please, please, do it!!! It's worthwhile!!!

Tienes razón, Clive, pobrecillo....pero como te digo la última parte de la peli me parece excesivamente superficial (Clive quiero decir) con ese peinado y ese bigote tan distinto al joven que fue... ... no parecía que Maurice le importara mucho....pero coincido contigo en que le amaba, tenía que ser asi, no obstante me cuesta imaginarme que uno pueda amar y ser tan indiferente, porque Ennis "a su manera" le demostraba a Jack que le amaba y cuánto!!!  Jack lo sabía, sabía que Ennis le amaba (lo contrario al amor no es el odio sino la indiferencia)......... Clive se volvió indiferente....es terriblemente triste ver lo mal que deja a Maurice la ruptura con Clive....pero menos mal que sale adelante...

I have to disagree. Clive didn't turn indifferent. He had to behave that way. It wasn't bigotry, it was jealousy in my opinion. Clive was sort of shot dead when Maurice told him he was going to leave with Alec. And I'm sure Maurice knew Clive loved him. You shouldn't compare the way Ennis and Clive showed their own feelings. The context is waaaay too different....Just my two cents, anyway... But you're right...this is a very sad story....I'd have liked to see Clive chasing Maurice and stopping him. But that would have been unrealistically sappy. 

I will do it... i think we have understanding problems... bigote means in spanish...uhmmm is something that have men under the nose (hair)
Tienes razón en lo que se refiere a la comparación con Ennis y Jack, pero no pude evitarlo 
Pues a mí me parece que Clive hace demasiado bien su papel, y puede que este sufriendo, pero no se le nota nada, y el final no lo he visto...pero ya te contaré cuando lo vea....
Maurice "olvida" a Clive....se enamora de Alec....Clive tuvo su oportunidad y no la supo aprovechar, le importaba más el buen nombre y la posición...sobre todo eso su posición en la sociedad....
No en vano le dice Maurice algo asi como : Alec ha dejado lo poco que tenía por mí....y se lo dice feliz, orgulloso....bueno, pero tengo que verla otra vez.

[Ginevra]

I will do it... i think we have understanding problems... bigote means in spanish...uhmmm is something that have men under the nose (hair)

 :D :D moustache? I knew I was asking my Spanish too much!!!!!!

Maurice "olvida" a Clive....se enamora de Alec....Clive tuvo su oportunidad y no la supo aprovechar, le importaba más el buen nombre y la posición...sobre todo eso su posición en la sociedad....

it was 1914. Two guys living together? No way. You know what? I think the only flaw in the book and in the movie is just Maurice's decision to leave with Alec. It looks so unrealistic. Argentina in 1914 was not San Francisco in 80's. Anyway, I understand  it was just a literary solution to stress the different destiny of the two boys. One of them chooses to live in harmony with his true self running all risks involved in this, the other one chooses the easier (?) way: to live according the social rules, having in return richness and respect. Who will be happy, in the end? None, I guess. They loved each other. They belonged to each other. Alec was nothing but a second best, nothing but sex. Clive was the love of Maurice's life, Maurice was Clive's. But life is hard. And if you can't fix it you gotta stand it.

[Androclo]

....siesta....

[Ginevra]

ma c'è uno dei cani di fianco a Jack?? :o :o :o Mica lo avevo mai notato!!!!!!!!!!!

DOLCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

[Androclo]

..ma Ginevra!! cosa guardavi??

[Rilla]

I will do it... i think we have understanding problems... bigote means in spanish...uhmmm is something that have men under the nose (hair)

 :D :D moustache? I knew I was asking my Spanish too much!!!!!!
 

Maurice "olvida" a Clive....se enamora de Alec....Clive tuvo su oportunidad y no la supo aprovechar, le importaba más el buen nombre y la posición...sobre todo eso su posición en la sociedad....

it was 1914. Two guys living together? No way. You know what? I think the only flaw in the book and in the movie is just Maurice's decision to leave with Alec. It looks so unrealistic. Argentina in 1914 was not San Francisco in 80's. Anyway, I understand  it was just a literary solution to stress the different destiny of the two boys. One of them chooses to live in harmony with his true self running all risks involved in this, the other one chooses the easier (?) way: to live according the social rules, having in return richness and respect. Who will be happy, in the end? None, I guess. They loved each other. They belonged to each other. Alec was nothing but a second best, nothing but sex. Clive was the love of Maurice's life, Maurice was Clive's. But life is hard. And if you can't fix it you gotta stand it.

Hombre una vida disimulada se podía vivir no?? con mucho cuidado hubiera sido posible.... y además queda claro que se van a Argentina?? ohh no me había dado cuenta...yo contaba con que se iban a Italia o Francia como le aconsejó a Maurice el psiquiatra...de verdad crees que Maurice segíuía amando a Clive....oohh tengo que leer el libro y ver la peli otra vez...a mí es que no me han quedado muy claras las ideas cara Ginevra...a mi me parece que Maurice si que se enamoró de Alec....claro la relación con Clive era preciosa.....con Alec era....un amor distinto menos idealista...menos abstracto y más concreto, pero al fín y al cabo también amor....una especie de amor.....por que dime cuántas personas tienen la suerte de poseer "el amor"

[Ginevra]

..ma Ginevra!! cosa guardavi??

le pecore!!!

[Rilla]

Androclo...come duermi!!!  :D :D :D

[frances]

I will do it... i think we have understanding problems... bigote means in spanish...uhmmm is something that have men under the nose (hair)

 :D :D moustache? I knew I was asking my Spanish too much!!!!!!

Maurice "olvida" a Clive....se enamora de Alec....Clive tuvo su oportunidad y no la supo aprovechar, le importaba más el buen nombre y la posición...sobre todo eso su posición en la sociedad....

it was 1914. Two guys living together? No way. You know what? I think the only flaw in the book and in the movie is just Maurice's decision to leave with Alec. It looks so unrealistic. Argentina in 1914 was not San Francisco in 80's. Anyway, I understand  it was just a literary solution to stress the different destiny of the two boys. One of them chooses to live in harmony with his true self running all risks involved in this, the other one chooses the easier (?) way: to live according the social rules, having in return richness and respect. Who will be happy, in the end? None, I guess. They loved each other. They belonged to each other. Alec was nothing but a second best, nothing but sex. Clive was the love of Maurice's life, Maurice was Clive's. But life is hard. And if you can't fix it you gotta stand it.

I strongly ( ) disagree. Alec isn't Randall Malone!

[frances]

Il mio sogno ingenuo sarebbe fare lo scrittore ma con la mia dislessia e semi-analfabetismo letterario sarebbe un po' imarazzante!! Potrei scrivere qualche manuale magari 

mi sono auto-quotato proprio per evidenziare la dislessia! 

quando al manuale Ginevra...vediamo mmm tipo "Come affrontare la post-Brokeback mountain syndrome" 

Questa non è dislessia, ma fretta nel digitare!

[Androclo]

Androclo...come duermi!!!  :D :D :D

..ciao Rilla, escusa non has comprendido.....

[frances]

"They taught all of us so much, not just about the gay men and women whose love is denied by society but, just as importantly, about the greatness of love itself." (Ang Lee su Ennis & Jack)

Così, per rinfrescarci un po' la memoria... 

Mr Leger in questa foto è DAVVERO qualcosa.

Visto che siamo in temo di ripasso.
In alto a destra del manifesto una delle mie critiche preferite....

[frances]

..ma Ginevra!! cosa guardavi??

le pecore!!!

aaaaaahhhhhh queste impiegate di concetto.....a proposito..perdonate l'ignoranza..cos'è un'impiegata di concetto?

[Androclo]

questa foto è molto bella, perchè ferma uno dei rari momenti dove entrambi esprimono la felicità di stare insieme.......

[Androclo]

...come Ginevra...



non stavi ammiarando me??? :'( :'(

[Ginevra]

....un amor distinto menos idealista...menos abstracto y más concreto, pero al fín y al cabo también amor....una especie de amor.....por que dime cuántas personas tienen la suerte de poseer "el amor"

yes, I think you are right here. It was a sort of love. A different one. Clive couldn't give Maurice that sort of flesh and blood love he needed.
Mmmm....I feel like rewatching the movie now. I haven't seen it for ages. Maybe I could see things in a different way now. Thank you for refreshing it, Rilla.

[Ginevra]

I strongly ( ) disagree. Alec isn't Randall Malone!

no, he's much hotter....

[Ginevra]

non stavi ammiarando me??? :'( :'(

te ti ammiro soprattutto in tenda.....

[Androclo]

non stavi ammiarando me??? :'( :'(

te ti ammiro soprattutto in tenda.....

..che romanticona..... :D