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Bought the DVD... first time ever watching... WOW!!
« on: Apr 07, 2006, 07:07 AM »
First, I'll say that I didn't know what to expect. Before buying the movie, I really didn't know what it was about. I mean, I knew that it was about 'two cowboys falling in love,' but aside from that, I didn't know much about the plot. I had heard all the hype, though. So I was excited to see it.

Generally, movies with a big hype tend to let me down. When I hear such brilliant things, my mind tends to overexaggerate the possible greatness to an extent that when I finally break down and watch it, it never lives up to my expectations.

And then I watched "Brokeback Mountain" today. And let me tell you... wow.

For about the first hour after watching it, I truly think that was nearly the only word that could come to my lips. Simply 'wow.' No 'that was great,' no 'that was incredible!' Just... wow. Almost sixteen hours have passed since I watched it, and still, it's on my mind. The story was so vast and so epic and so engrossing that when the credits rolled, I found myself saying, "It's over already? But.. it can't be!" I suppose that's the sign of a really good movie. One that leaves you with questions and analyzations hours after you've finished watching it.

I'm still frustrated with that sad ending, though. I feel somehow like it was my own relationship that ended so tragically, and I'm just not going to be happy unless there's a happy ending -- as cliche as that is, I know. Truth be told, though, if there was a happy ending, the movie wouldn't have made as much of an emotional impact on me as it did. And perhaps even more importantly, it would've lost some of its purpose. So, sometimes "and they lived happily ever after" isn't always the wisest choice.

The emotions that this movie stirred inside of me were emotions that I don't think I had tapped into for quite a while. It made me uneasy, it made me comfortable with myself, it made me uncomfortable with myself. It made me question and it made me yearn. And it made me feel lonely. I've always wanted that kind of love, that Jack and Ennis kind of love. Even with the tragedy and the star-crossed obstacles, I want that kind of love. That emcompassing, completely engrossing love and passion. And I saw it with these two characters, which seems to have reignited my own passions from within and yearning for that kind of closeness with another human being.

Jake Gyllenhall and Heath Ledger were phenomenal. Their performances were so real, it took my breath away. They literally took my breath away. Michelle Williams was a powerhouse. In each of her scenes, I felt a lump in my throat and my heart seemed as if it was beating out of my chest. These three characters, above all overs, were what made this film an instant favorite of mine. Kudos to all of them and their remarkable, heartbreaking, heartspoken performances.

Somewhere in here, I've got to say how much I appreciated the gorgeous backdrop and scenery on Brokeback Mountain. So pretty and picturesque, it was the perfect beautiful setting to tell such a beautiful story.

So many scenes made me feel so many things, and I'd really just like to take a moment to dissect them...

I loved the early scenes, with Jack and Ennis getting to know one another. Not even romantically, just as buddies. There was a scene where they were both sitting around the fire, and Ennis was telling a story -- the first time we'd really heard him string more than three sentences together in the movie, being the quiet man that he was. And Jack's smile, noting that it was the first time he'd really heard Ennis talk that much. The glances were adorable! And speaking of Ennis's quiet demeanor, why is that? I tend to think that it's because he's a little unsure of himself, and with that comes fear -- causing the usual silence or reserved vocalization.

The first scene of Jack and Ennis making love in the tent was superb. Both of them lying there next to one another, and Jack reaches around in the middle of his sleep and pulls Ennis's arm around him, instantly waking them both up. Ennis pulls away suddenly, and Jack clings to him... they both looked as if they might have been half asleep while they did it as they unbuckled their pants and went to town. In the morning, after waking up, they probably both wondered, "Did that really happen, or was it all a dream?"

Their first conversation after that incident was also fantastic, with Ennis telling Jack that this is a "one-shot deal" they had going on there, and Jack's reply... it's nobody's business but theirs.

The second tent scene, with Jack shirtless as Ennis comes inside. Jack lifts up and kisses him, then cradles his head with his hands and pulls him down onto his chest. On top of being an incredibly passionate, hot, amazing scene, filled with the most palpable of sexual and romantic chemistry, it was romantic. This was really the first time that I really saw Jack as the true romantic that he was. Wanting something -- not sure what -- and reaching out so desperately for it. I swear, the amount of emotion that Jake Gyllenhall conveys with his eyes is unlike anything I've ever seen. In this film, he could rip my heart out without saying a word. And that's truly the sign of an exceptional actor.

The reunion, four years later. I loved Ennis pacing around the house, waiting for Jack to show up. And although in the film, it had only been ten minutes or so since we last saw them together at Brokeback, when it came to their reunion, it truly felt long overdue. When Jack pulled into the drive (and Ennis heard it), we saw Ennis hop over to the window to look out and see Jack down there. A slight smile came to his face as he quickly tucked in his shirt and rushed outside. "Jack f***in' Twist!" He rushed down the steps, Jack rushed to him, and they embraced to hard that I half expected one or both of them to fall over into the gravel. "Son of a bitch..." Oh God, their lips came so close to meeting. They looked around for .3 seconds, to survey their surroundings, then BOOM... Ennis pushes Jack up against the wall, holds his head in his hands and they have what I believe to be the hottest, most passionate, intense, WOW!! makeout scene in all of movie history. I mean, wow! WOW! That was incredible. They were holding close to one another so tightly, it seemed as if they held any tighter, they would burst like a balloon. And there was a moment in there, for about three seconds, when they're both holding one another's heads and staring into one another's eyes, and the look on Jake's face is amazing. He looks like he's about to burst into tears as he looks at Ennis so intensely, and it's as if they're both just instantly overcome with uncontrollable emotion. It was dramatic, romantic, sweeping and tragic all at once. The 'tragic' part, of course, happening when Ennis' wife Alma spied their makeout session from inside the house. In my opinion, the best overall scene in the movie. I was glued! And I rewound it nearly a dozen times before finally moving on to the rest of the film.

Then came the scene in the motel room. They're both smoking a cigarette, and Jack is holding Ennis in his arms. How touching it was to see Ennis, the more 'masculine' character, being held in Jack's arms. That's when Jack swore that he didn't expect them to get into this again, then jokingly says, "Oh, yes I did. I redlined it all the way, I couldn't get here fast enough." Then he continues with, "Old Brokeback got us good, didn't it?" Swoon! Take my breath away, stick a fork in me, I'm done!

Somewhere around here was a scene with Alma where she watched crying from the window, holding her daughter in her arms, as she watched Jack and Ennis drive away for a fishing trip. She knew what was really going to happen on the trip as tears filled her eyes and she watched them leave together. Michelle Williams was wonderful in this scene! That lip quiver gets me every time.

My heart broke in the scene where Jack told Ennis, "You know, it could be like this... just like this, always." He went on to explain how they could have a life together, but Ennis explained to him that he won't let that happen. It's too dangerous. How many of us can relate to this situation? Gay, straight, whatever... we can all relate to loving someone, and wanting nothing more than to be with them, but for whatever reason... you can't. I suppose that you can find some comfort in the ideal of "it's better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all." Bittersweet. Jack explained that he's not happy with just getting together every now and then, every four years. "If you can't fix it, Jack, you've gotta stand it." And they did, for as long as they could ride it. Heartbreaking! You could see the possibility of happiness right in front of their faces, so close you could almost taste it, and yet so far away. I think that my heart skipped a beat a good two, three times in this scene alone.

Ennis's divorce. After hearing the news, Jack immediately came for Ennis. Whistling in his truck, he was happy and upbeat, sure his dreams were about to come true and he would finally have what he had waited so long for. Then when he arrived, and Ennis explained that things weren't going to happen the way he intended, Jack was crushed. The next time we saw him, he was driving away in the same truck he had just been whistling happily in moments before -- only now, he was in tears. I believe this was the first time I'd ever seen Jake Gyllenhall cry, and I was incredibly moved. Shit, I was fighting back tears, myself!

Was anyone else really turned on by Jack during the Thanksgiving Dinner scene? He turned off the television so that his son would eat his food rather than watch the television, while his jackass father-in-law turned the television back on, explaining that all young boys should watch football on TV to grow up and become 'real men.' Furious with his father-in-law's actions, Jack blew up, even threatening to knock his 'ignorant ass' into next week. Whoa! This was Jack with balls. And damn, it was sexy. Finally taking charge of something, making demands.

Later, there was a scene with Ennis and Jack -- now a bit older -- sitting in front of the lake, sharing a joint and some whiskey. And Jake had a line that he delivered so well, it gave me goosebumps. "Sometimes, I miss you so much I can hardly stand it." He said that such such pain in his voice, and it was another one of those 'take my breath away' scenes. By this point, I was coming to the realization that we weren't headed in any direction of a happy ending, so that line had even more weight to it than it would have earlier in the movie.

Then came what I believe was their final scene together. The goodbye in front of the lake. Ennis told Jack that he wouldn't be able to come back until November, upsetting Jack. He was tired of waiting, tired of yearning for him and missing him. It was tearing him up inside, and he finally just let it all out. In my opinion, this was Jake Gyllenhall's best performance in the entire movie. Frustrated and at his breaking point, he shouted (with sadness in his voice and tears in his eyes), "We could have had a good life together. A !@#$ real good life... but you didn't want it, Ennis! So what we got now is Brokeback Mountain! Everything's built on that! That's all we got, boy... you count the damn few times that we have been together in nearly twenty years, and you measure the short !@#$ leash that you keep me on and then you ask me about Mexico and you tell me you'll kill me for needing something that I don't hardly never get! You have no idea how bad it gets!" Then came, in my opinion, the absolute best line of the movie. "I wish I knew how to quit you." Sweet Jesus, what a line! I mean, seriously. What a line. By this point, I was in tears. Not just sobbing, not just sniffling, but completely in tears. Then Ennis broke down, and Jack came to embrace him. They struggled with one another as they both dropped to the ground, holding one another tightly. And I've got a jump in my throat just thinking about it.

The entire last twenty minutes were almost too sad to watch. In all honesty, it got to the point that I almost shut the movie off because I couldn't handle the emotion. I felt like a complete idiot, sitting here on my couch in tears staring at my television. I came thisclose to just turning it off and finishing it later, but I kept watching, anyway. Like a trainwreck, you can't help but watch.

So, here it is. The hardest part of the movie to watch. Ennis visiting with Jack's parents. They allow him to go up to Jack's bedroom, and that's where he finds their shirts hanging together in the closet, with one tucked inside the other. One shirt was his, the other shirt was Jack's, from when they were on Brokeback Mountain. And Jack had apparently kept them for all of these years. Ennis holds the shirts to his chest lovingly, smells it... and tears again. What a mess I was watching this scene! My stomach was in knots.

One of the most interesting aspects of the movie was the exploration of story between Jack/Ennis and the women in their lives. They didn't make any of the women in their lives happy, because what they really wanted was each other. And in their women's hearts, they all knew that they'd never be #1 for that very reason... that special place in 'his' heart was already occupied by someone. For Ennis, it was Alma and Cassie. And for Jack, it was Lureen. There was one time in the movie, however, when Ennis didn't disappoint a woman in his life... his daughter. She informed him that she was getting married, and he told her that he would have to work on the day of her wedding. He saw the look of disappointment on her face, though, and after asking her whether or not her fiancee loves her, to which she replied yes (a scene that, in my opinion, seems to have many different meanings and undertones... first time Ennis mentions 'love' in the movie, as he and Jack never ONCE said "I Love You," and he finally mentions it after Jack's dead) he decided to blow off work and he there for his little girl's wedding. What a sweet scene.

And then the ending. Ennis walks into his trailer, hangs his hat on the wall. The familiar theme begins to play, and swells... as Ennis opens his closet door. Hanging on the inside of the door is the shirts that used to hang inside Jack's closet. Only now, the shirts are reversed... his is on the outside, and Jack's is on the inside. He buttons one of the buttons, looks up at the postcard of Brokeback Mountain, and with tears filling his eyes, he whispers, "Jack, I swear..." He closes the closet door, and it fades to black. I cannot explain to you how incredibly emotional this scene was. I was just in tears! I was touched. I mean truly, truly touched.

As you may have guessed, because of all the detail in this post, I was watching this movie for a second time as I typed this. And as I type, the credits are rolling, and once again, I have tears in my eyes.

This is just a beautiful movie. And I hope that everyone who sees it has the same feeling of hope and love and humanity that I had when I felt it. And, with any luck, maybe it will change the opinions of a few people who, perhaps, hadn't looked at this quite that way before. And in the end, the world will be better for it.

Heh, the end.
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Re: Bought the DVD... first time ever watching... WOW!!
« Reply #1 on: Apr 07, 2006, 08:50 AM »
Kenny, beautiful post.  Yup...BROKEBACK GOT US GOOD!  Donna :'(
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« Reply #2 on: Apr 07, 2006, 10:07 AM »
Thanks Kenny, for such a thorough review of the movie.  It's always refreshing to hear impressions from a newbie!  Can you imagine what it would be like if you had watched it on the big screen in the theater?   And a BIG WELCOME to the board  ;D
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Re: Bought the DVD... first time ever watching... WOW!!
« Reply #3 on: Apr 07, 2006, 10:18 AM »
Kenny, welcome and thanks for sharing your thought on watching the DVD for the first time. It reminds me so much of the first time I saw it four months ago. It is so fresh and detailed.
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Re: Bought the DVD... first time ever watching... WOW!!
« Reply #4 on: Apr 07, 2006, 11:03 AM »
Woah, I just read everything you wrote and I'm speechless right now...  You reminded me of every single scene from the movie and all the details in it, specially the two shirts in the closet.  Just to think about all the meanings of those two shirts makes you get so emotional and with teary eyes, the film is a masterpiece and an epic love story in deed.  Welcome to these forums!   ;) :o :'( :-\ :'(
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Re: Bought the DVD... first time ever watching... WOW!!
« Reply #5 on: Apr 07, 2006, 11:08 AM »
Kenny, what a wonderful review. You have fantastically expressed the essence of this story.
But, man, you've made me cry :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Anyway, thanks

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« Reply #6 on: Apr 07, 2006, 11:17 AM »
Kenny,

First of all, welcome to the BBM forum.  I must say your comments summarize what most of us felt upon viewing this film masterpiece.  Beautiful, passionate, and heart-wrenching all come to mind when describing this story. It's amazing how many people experienced a period of grieving for these two characters. 

Don't be surprised if you find yourself viewing it numerous times for a while.  Quite a few of us have made many trips to the theater.  I will be watching my DVD in it's entirety this weekend.  I expect to be an emotional wreck, but I don't care.  I love this film.

Looking forward to seeing your future posts Kenny!
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Re: Bought the DVD... first time ever watching... WOW!!
« Reply #7 on: Apr 07, 2006, 11:45 AM »
Kenny,

Congratulations on writing one of the best, and certainly the most passionate, reviews I've read on BBM in the past several months.  And, along with so many of us here, I've read, well, a few hundred or so...

Well said and thanks for being so passionately clear. 

One comment:  I think you say that after that first tent scene, Ennis and Jack probably wake up thinking, "Did that actually happen?"  Well, an interesting side note:  prior to the second love scene, as Ennis sits by the fire, then gets up with his hat in his hands...and all the way through one of the best love scenes in cinematic history, Gustavo Santaolalla's composition from "21 Grams" entitled, "Did This Just Happen?" is playing.  It fits perfectly and belongs more with BBM than any other movie.

Thanks again for sharing your thoughts with us!
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« Reply #8 on: Apr 07, 2006, 04:40 PM »
Welcome Kenny- beautiful summary of the movie!
You're in good company here to talk, share, obssess etc about this wonderful movie.
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« Reply #9 on: Apr 07, 2006, 05:04 PM »
Kenny - i am so thrilled that you have found BBM such an intense experience. I loved your post, it brought back all the freshness of the film for me, and reminded me how i felt when i had first watched it :'( :'( :'(. Thank you for posting :-*

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« Reply #10 on: Apr 07, 2006, 05:12 PM »
And then the ending. Ennis walks into his trailer, hangs his hat on the wall. The familiar theme begins to play, and swells... as Ennis opens his closet door. Hanging on the inside of the door is the shirts that used to hang inside Jack's closet. Only now, the shirts are reversed... his is on the outside, and Jack's is on the inside. He buttons one of the buttons, looks up at the postcard of Brokeback Mountain, and with tears filling his eyes, he whispers, "Jack, I swear..." He closes the closet door, and it fades to black. I cannot explain to you how incredibly emotional this scene was. I was just in tears! I was touched. I mean truly, truly touched.


Kenny, did you know it was Heath Ledger's idea to reverse the shirts in his closet.  To me this signifys how much he put into his role.  He had said that he felt he had to mature as an actor and as a person to play the part of Ennis.  What a wonderful actor he is!  Donna
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« Reply #11 on: Apr 07, 2006, 05:55 PM »
Wow, thanks for all the replies, everyone!

To be completely honest, I felt a little silly while watching the movie. I kept telling myself, "It's just a movie! Why are you sniveling?" But on the other hand, the performances were so deep and so genuine that I almost felt as if I was watching a biopic or something, as if Jack, Ennis and all the others were real people. And that's all to the credit of the wonderful cast.

Anyway, thank God I'm not the only one who felt so deeply for this movie. I thought that perhaps I was just a bit too emotional, but I've come here and read some posts, and all I can think is, "Wow... I'm not going crazy! Others feel the same way!" So, I'm sure I'll be posting here regularly to share my apparent newfound passion with this movie.

I have a question, though. I really, really want to share this movie with someone. I'm not sure who, but I want someone else to experience the movie in the same way that I did. Most of the gay people I know have already seen it, so that leaves, pretty much, family members. I'm not sure about sharing it with them, though. They're open-minded about homosexuality, especially since I came out to them. But I'm pretty sure they don't think it's 'hot' to see two men kissing, either. By the same token, though, I can't help but feel that they'll watch and be just as touched by the wonderful display of the human condition in the movie as I was. So, should I share it, and risk them being completely annoyed and turned off... or do you think that this movie is broad enough to be a tale that everyone would appreciate? Because, I really want to share it.
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« Reply #12 on: Apr 07, 2006, 05:59 PM »
 And a BIG WELCOME to the board  ;D

Thanks! Nice to be here, heh.

I swear, I'm really NOT a big sack of tears. I'm a completely quirky, offbeat, fun person... I think. I just had to get all of those sad emotions out in my original post, though. LoL And now that that's done, I'm ready for some fun!

Hopefully you fine folks can provide it  ;)
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« Reply #13 on: Apr 07, 2006, 06:04 PM »
Kenny, what a wonderful review. You have fantastically expressed the essence of this story.
But, man, you've made me cry :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Anyway, thanks

Aww, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to make you cry! LoL But since you are, here's some Kleenex...

*passes box*
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« Reply #14 on: Apr 07, 2006, 06:05 PM »
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I have a question, though. I really, really want to share this movie with someone. I'm not sure who, but I want someone else to experience the movie in the same way that I did. Most of the gay people I know have already seen it, so that leaves, pretty much, family members. I'm not sure about sharing it with them, though. They're open-minded about homosexuality, especially since I came out to them. But I'm pretty sure they don't think it's 'hot' to see two men kissing, either. By the same token, though, I can't help but feel that they'll watch and be just as touched by the wonderful display of the human condition in the movie as I was. So, should I share it, and risk them being completely annoyed and turned off... or do you think that this movie is broad enough to be a tale that everyone would appreciate? Because, I really want to share it.

Welcome in the Brockie's house Kenny, we just added a room for you.  What could I say about your question?  I had my mother of 80 to see it, she loved it.  Maybe share it with your mom?  I'm always surprised by the opening and the warmth of a mother's heart, the best proof is Jack's mother.  I don't know however your relation with your mother.  If you have a good straight woman friend, it would be another advise.
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« Reply #15 on: Apr 07, 2006, 06:05 PM »
Kenny,

Congratulations on writing one of the best, and certainly the most passionate, reviews I've read on BBM in the past several months.  And, along with so many of us here, I've read, well, a few hundred or so...

Well said and thanks for being so passionately clear. 

One comment:  I think you say that after that first tent scene, Ennis and Jack probably wake up thinking, "Did that actually happen?"  Well, an interesting side note:  prior to the second love scene, as Ennis sits by the fire, then gets up with his hat in his hands...and all the way through one of the best love scenes in cinematic history, Gustavo Santaolalla's composition from "21 Grams" entitled, "Did This Just Happen?" is playing.  It fits perfectly and belongs more with BBM than any other movie.

Thanks again for sharing your thoughts with us!

First, thanks for the compliment! I felt so many emotions through so many scenes, and I needed to get it all out, to share my thoughts and feelings. So, I had no choice but to really go scene-by-scene and dissect it wholely.

Second, that's interesting about the 21 Grams song. I had no idea! But as you said, so fitting.
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« Reply #16 on: Apr 07, 2006, 06:05 PM »
Wow, thanks for all the replies, everyone!

To be completely honest, I felt a little silly while watching the movie. I kept telling myself, "It's just a movie! Why are you sniveling?" But on the other hand, the performances were so deep and so genuine that I almost felt as if I was watching a biopic or something, as if Jack, Ennis and all the others were real people. And that's all to the credit of the wonderful cast.

Anyway, thank God I'm not the only one who felt so deeply for this movie. I thought that perhaps I was just a bit too emotional, but I've come here and read some posts, and all I can think is, "Wow... I'm not going crazy! Others feel the same way!" So, I'm sure I'll be posting here regularly to share my apparent newfound passion with this movie.

I have a question, though. I really, really want to share this movie with someone. I'm not sure who, but I want someone else to experience the movie in the same way that I did. Most of the gay people I know have already seen it, so that leaves, pretty much, family members. I'm not sure about sharing it with them, though. They're open-minded about homosexuality, especially since I came out to them. But I'm pretty sure they don't think it's 'hot' to see two men kissing, either. By the same token, though, I can't help but feel that they'll watch and be just as touched by the wonderful display of the human condition in the movie as I was. So, should I share it, and risk them being completely annoyed and turned off... or do you think that this movie is broad enough to be a tale that everyone would appreciate? Because, I really want to share it.
Hi Kenny. I went to see the film with my boyfriend - who loved it, and has made tons of music vids for me because of it, and my mum - who cried her eyes out and said it was a simply beautiful film. On my experience it transcends sexuality - i hope you have as much pleasure viewing it with your friends and family as i did.x

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« Reply #17 on: Apr 07, 2006, 06:07 PM »

Looking forward to seeing your future posts Kenny!

Thanks! I look forward to posting with you (and, of course, everyone else) as I get to know the forums.
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Re: Bought the DVD... first time ever watching... WOW!!
« Reply #18 on: Apr 07, 2006, 06:10 PM »


Kenny, did you know it was Heath Ledger's idea to reverse the shirts in his closet.  To me this signifys how much he put into his role.  He had said that he felt he had to mature as an actor and as a person to play the part of Ennis.  What a wonderful actor he is!  Donna
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Actually, yes! I had read that in a few posts and thought it was fascinating, so I watched the movie for the second time -- and wrote my 'review' above -- I made sure to watch for that. I hadn't noticed it before. And after that, I think my respect for Heath grew even bigger than it already was. I love it when an actor gets so into a role like that. Only the best do. And usually, they end up with an Oscar because of it. Whatever the case, Heath was fantastic.
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Re: Bought the DVD... first time ever watching... WOW!!
« Reply #19 on: Apr 07, 2006, 06:12 PM »

Welcome in the Brockie's house Kenny, we just added a room for you.  What could I say about your question?  I had my mother of 80 to see it, she loved it.  Maybe share it with your mom?  I'm always surprised by the opening and the warmth of a mother's heart, the best proof is Jack's mother.  I don't know however your relation with your mother.  If you have a good straight woman friend, it would be another advise.

I have a really good relationship with my mother, and she's certainly open-minded. I've been thinking about either watching it with her or my grandmother, who was once very anti-gay until I, her grandson, came out... and now she's got a totally different standpoint. Or I could watch it with both of them.

I do have some straight female friends, too.
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Re: Bought the DVD... first time ever watching... WOW!!
« Reply #20 on: Apr 07, 2006, 06:16 PM »

I have a question, though. I really, really want to share this movie with someone. I'm not sure who, but I want someone else to experience the movie in the same way that I did. Most of the gay people I know have already seen it, so that leaves, pretty much, family members. I'm not sure about sharing it with them, though. They're open-minded about homosexuality, especially since I came out to them. But I'm pretty sure they don't think it's 'hot' to see two men kissing, either. By the same token, though, I can't help but feel that they'll watch and be just as touched by the wonderful display of the human condition in the movie as I was. So, should I share it, and risk them being completely annoyed and turned off... or do you think that this movie is broad enough to be a tale that everyone would appreciate? Because, I really want to share it.

Kenny,

Follow what your heart compels you to do.  For me, it's been interesting.  I've taken my straight roommate and friends to see the movie (oh, well, let's say I've seen it just a "few" times); they were ransacked and touched by the film.  Of course, not all thought it was the major event that I did.  Yet most came away with lingering thoughts and a need to discuss it for days after. 

For family:  my Mom lives in rural Texas and didn't have the opportunity to see the film on the big screen.  But she was standing in line the other day to get the DVD as the store's doors opened.  She says she'll watch it over and over...and decided to sign the HRC's petition for access to marriage for all because of what she's read about the movie and now seen.  My brother and his wife went to see it in Houston and, while he wasn't waylaid by it, he wrote a wonderful note to me about how he feels he understands what it must be like for gay men at various points in their lives now. 

I say share away...but you'll know best.

As for the sex and love scenes, my brother thought they were over-acted which stunned me.  But, hell, that's just him.  And who, pray tell, wouldn't find Ennis and Jack kissing hot?
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Re: Bought the DVD... first time ever watching... WOW!!
« Reply #21 on: Apr 07, 2006, 06:23 PM »

I say share away...but you'll know best.

As for the sex and love scenes, my brother thought they were over-acted which stunned me.  But, hell, that's just him.  And who, pray tell, wouldn't find Ennis and Jack kissing hot?

Sweet Jesus, I don't know!
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Re: Bought the DVD... first time ever watching... WOW!!
« Reply #22 on: Apr 07, 2006, 06:24 PM »
Wow, thanks for all the replies, everyone!

To be completely honest, I felt a little silly while watching the movie. I kept telling myself, "It's just a movie! Why are you sniveling?" But on the other hand, the performances were so deep and so genuine that I almost felt as if I was watching a biopic or something, as if Jack, Ennis and all the others were real people. And that's all to the credit of the wonderful cast.

Anyway, thank God I'm not the only one who felt so deeply for this movie. I thought that perhaps I was just a bit too emotional, but I've come here and read some posts, and all I can think is, "Wow... I'm not going crazy! Others feel the same way!" So, I'm sure I'll be posting here regularly to share my apparent newfound passion with this movie.

I have a question, though. I really, really want to share this movie with someone. I'm not sure who, but I want someone else to experience the movie in the same way that I did. Most of the gay people I know have already seen it, so that leaves, pretty much, family members. I'm not sure about sharing it with them, though. They're open-minded about homosexuality, especially since I came out to them. But I'm pretty sure they don't think it's 'hot' to see two men kissing, either. By the same token, though, I can't help but feel that they'll watch and be just as touched by the wonderful display of the human condition in the movie as I was. So, should I share it, and risk them being completely annoyed and turned off... or do you think that this movie is broad enough to be a tale that everyone would appreciate? Because, I really want to share it.

Hello Kenny,

I plan to show it to my relatives from Canada when they do their annual summer visit to my place.  My cousin already said that she won't rent the movie yet so she can see it "fresh" at my place.  I think my aunt would enjoy it too.  My uncle, however, doesn't really like "mushy" movies but I think it is significant enough of movie that he might also be convinced to see it.  He had a tough upbringing and had gone through some repression in his childhood so I think he might relate to it (even though he is completely straight).  I will just play it by ear when they come.  You can tell your relatives that this movie is the most significant one to date that truly represents a silent invisible majority of gay people (notice I said majority and not minority - the minority are the ones unfortunately identified with stereotypes).  Tell them that anyone can identify with it as it speaks to lost opportunities and regret, and deep connections, friendships or otherwise, that have stood the test of time.

You might want to read this review made by a senior citizen -
http://movies.yahoo.com/mvc/dfrv?mid=1808403312&s=&rvid=255-628017&i=6&spl=&ys=6sLpJHCrHV7ysabmdPvNLw--

good luck!
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Re: Bought the DVD... first time ever watching... WOW!!
« Reply #23 on: Apr 07, 2006, 06:27 PM »
Kenny, Thanks for the great post! Nice complete review of the movie that has won not only our hearts but our souls. Great to have newbies posting and taking part in all! Welcome Home to Brokeback...and yes, it got us all good.
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Re: Bought the DVD... first time ever watching... WOW!!
« Reply #24 on: Apr 07, 2006, 08:46 PM »


Kenny, here is just a thought.  for those in your family and of your friends that you think might have an initial shock reaction to the sex scene and the two kissing scenes, before playing the DVD you might warn them that there will be 3 very short scenes of intimacy between Jack and Ennis. That way nobody will be shocked and possibly embarrassed by what they see.  Personally I think it is a good thing to do for the straight people because, if nothing else, it shows you are concerned for their feelings and it could just make them see the movie in a different light knowing you were concerned about them.

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Re: Bought the DVD... first time ever watching... WOW!!
« Reply #25 on: Apr 07, 2006, 10:11 PM »
Kenny, I don't know what to say ... I'm speechless.   What an awesome post, and, just what I needed to read tonight.   Of all the posts I've read on this site, yours, speaks volumes X 100.   Your comments have really helped me realize the 'Brokeback' message in my own life and circumstances.   It's been quite an emotional ride since last fall.   I've seen the film several times on the big screen, and once with my mother.   This film will indeed change humanity, even if it's not apparent at first.   It is probably the most profound and important motion picture of our time.  It's life, it's love, it's a force of nature.   Who among us can not relate ?    Thank you.

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« Reply #26 on: Apr 07, 2006, 10:17 PM »
Kenny,

I agree you could warn them about the intimate scenes. I am straight as are my friends who have seen the movie and not one of us had a problem with it. We all agreed that that reunion kiss was the hottest thing we have seen! I agree with Aimi15- this story transcends sexuality. I giggled at your post about needing to confirm that you were not crazy- that's exactly how I wound up here. I never had anything impact me like this.
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Re: Bought the DVD... first time ever watching... WOW!!
« Reply #27 on: Apr 07, 2006, 10:17 PM »
Kenny, I don't know what to say ... I'm speechless.   What an awesome post, and, just what I needed to read tonight.   Of all the posts I've read on this site, yours, speaks volumes X 100.   Your comments have really helped me realize the 'Brokeback' message in my own life and circumstances.   It's been quite an emotional ride since last fall.   I've seen the film several times on the big screen, and once with my mother.   This film will indeed change humanity, even if it's not apparent at first.   It is probably the most profound and important motion picture of our time.  It's life, it's love, it's a force of nature.   Who among us can not relate ?    Thank you.

Excellent first post woodsmn!!!  No further comment needed. ;D
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Re: Bought the DVD... first time ever watching... WOW!!
« Reply #28 on: Apr 07, 2006, 11:55 PM »
Kenny,

I agree you could warn them about the intimate scenes. I am straight as are my friends who have seen the movie and not one of us had a problem with it. We all agreed that that reunion kiss was the hottest thing we have seen! I agree with Aimi15- this story transcends sexuality. I giggled at your post about needing to confirm that you were not crazy- that's exactly how I wound up here. I never had anything impact me like this.

Wow, even straight females thought it was hot? Yowza!
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Re: Bought the DVD... first time ever watching... WOW!!
« Reply #29 on: Apr 08, 2006, 12:04 AM »
Kenny,

I agree you could warn them about the intimate scenes. I am straight as are my friends who have seen the movie and not one of us had a problem with it. We all agreed that that reunion kiss was the hottest thing we have seen! I agree with Aimi15- this story transcends sexuality. I giggled at your post about needing to confirm that you were not crazy- that's exactly how I wound up here. I never had anything impact me like this.

Wow, even straight females thought it was hot? Yowza!

Hell, I've even had a few (verifyably) straight male friends call it 'hot!'
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