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Re: Jack says "F*ck Me!" in 1st tent scene!!! - *Spoiler* - New POLL
« Reply #180 on: May 25, 2006, 11:12 AM »
Without using headphones, without turning the volume up - I don't hear it  want the experience to be as close to natural as possible.
Maybe it's because I do not hear f..k used commonly, that it still has a minimal shock effect on me, and don't get that.  My family does not say it, my friends do not say it. my coworkers do not say it - so...
For the same reason, do not stop, reverse, ff or slo mo the film...
If something was to be noticed in the film, think that it would be evident at "normal" viewing conditions.
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Re: Jack says "F*ck Me!" in 1st tent scene!!! - *Spoiler* - New POLL
« Reply #181 on: May 25, 2006, 11:15 AM »
Quote from: keren_b on May 25, 2006, 10:38 AM
Quote from: stacp on May 25, 2006, 10:31 AM
Quote from: keren_b on May 25, 2006, 06:41 AM
Quote from: stacp on May 24, 2006, 10:34 PM
Kathy, keep trying.  You will hear the "f**ck me."  In the interest of science, you must keep up the vigilance!  It is very subtle, but I can't watch the scene now without hearing it as clear as a bell.  For the record, I will say that this two word phrase settles the debate for me whether Jack was enjoying the moment.  Jack loved him some high altitude loving!   :8

Was there ever a debate about that?? ??? I wasn't aware...

Some have questioned (not necessarily on this site), whether Jack moaned in pleasure or pain during FNIT. 

Oh. I think it was probably both... but more pleasure than pain, IMO.

I always thought it was more in surprise (after I finally heard it).  Kind of like hot d*mn that feels good.
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Re: Jack says "F*ck Me!" in 1st tent scene!!! - *Spoiler* - New POLL
« Reply #182 on: May 25, 2006, 11:17 AM »
Quote from: jerasjr on May 25, 2006, 11:12 AM
Without using headphones, without turning the volume up - I don't hear it  want the experience to be as close to natural as possible.
Maybe it's because I do not hear f..k used commonly, that it still has a minimal shock effect on me, and don't get that.  My family does not say it, my friends do not say it. my coworkers do not say it - so...
For the same reason, do not stop, reverse, ff or slo mo the film...
If something was to be noticed in the film, think that it would be evident at "normal" viewing conditions.

Normal viewing was actually how I first heard it.  Didn't at the theater because the sound was awful.
Just had the DVD going at home while I was doing emails, really wasn't even watching the scene,
and I heard Jack say that.  Didn't believe it myself.  played it over several times..... and sure enough.
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Re: Jack says "F*ck Me!" in 1st tent scene!!! - *Spoiler* - New POLL
« Reply #183 on: May 25, 2006, 12:37 PM »
Quote from: karen1129 on May 25, 2006, 11:17 AM
Quote from: jerasjr on May 25, 2006, 11:12 AM
Without using headphones, without turning the volume up - I don't hear it  want the experience to be as close to natural as possible.
Maybe it's because I do not hear f..k used commonly, that it still has a minimal shock effect on me, and don't get that.  My family does not say it, my friends do not say it. my coworkers do not say it - so...
For the same reason, do not stop, reverse, ff or slo mo the film...
If something was to be noticed in the film, think that it would be evident at "normal" viewing conditions.

Normal viewing was actually how I first heard it.  Didn't at the theater because the sound was awful.
Just had the DVD going at home while I was doing emails, really wasn't even watching the scene,
and I heard Jack say that.  Didn't believe it myself.  played it over several times..... and sure enough.


Karen, I'm shocked!  You weren't paying attention to FNIT when it was playing?  Sacrilege!!!!  %(  But, I agree with you.  I didn't hear it at the theater, but I heard it first on Youtube then loud and clear on DVD viewing.  To me, it almost makes the scene more believable.  Who among us hasn't hollered out something you'd never say otherwise in the heat of passion?  :8  Jack and Ennis were sure in the throws of passion!  :^^)
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Re: Jack says "F*ck Me!" in 1st tent scene!!! - *Spoiler* - New POLL
« Reply #184 on: May 25, 2006, 02:49 PM »
 :) The first time I heard it was also during a time when I was not really looking at the TV... in fact I think I was cooking dinner (5th or 6th viewing) and I was actually in the kitchen. I was like "Holy sh*t! Did I hear that right?" I of course raced to the TV and backed it up to listen again!  :P
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Re: Jack says "F*ck Me!" in 1st tent scene!!! - *Spoiler* - New POLL
« Reply #185 on: May 25, 2006, 02:57 PM »
Quote from: stacp on May 25, 2006, 12:37 PM
Quote from: karen1129 on May 25, 2006, 11:17 AM
Quote from: jerasjr on May 25, 2006, 11:12 AM
Without using headphones, without turning the volume up - I don't hear it  want the experience to be as close to natural as possible.
Maybe it's because I do not hear f..k used commonly, that it still has a minimal shock effect on me, and don't get that.  My family does not say it, my friends do not say it. my coworkers do not say it - so...
For the same reason, do not stop, reverse, ff or slo mo the film...
If something was to be noticed in the film, think that it would be evident at "normal" viewing conditions.

Normal viewing was actually how I first heard it.  Didn't at the theater because the sound was awful.
Just had the DVD going at home while I was doing emails, really wasn't even watching the scene,
and I heard Jack say that.  Didn't believe it myself.  played it over several times..... and sure enough.


Karen, I'm shocked!  You weren't paying attention to FNIT when it was playing?  Sacrilege!!!!  %(  But, I agree with you.  I didn't hear it at the theater, but I heard it first on Youtube then loud and clear on DVD viewing.  To me, it almost makes the scene more believable.  Who among us hasn't hollered out something you'd never say otherwise in the heat of passion?  :8  Jack and Ennis were sure in the throws of passion!  :^^)

Jack Nasty did say it in a very passionate way too!  I mean.....   he had been waiting for that moment for a long damn time ! ;)
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Re: Jack says "F*ck Me!" in 1st tent scene!!! - *Spoiler* - New POLL
« Reply #186 on: Dec 18, 2006, 10:08 AM »
he might have said it..not sure...and as for Toms point, Jack did say it when entangling the sheep from the chilean ones :)
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Re: Jack says "F*ck Me!" in 1st tent scene!!! - *Spoiler* - New POLL
« Reply #187 on: Jan 02, 2007, 08:22 PM »
is there a youtube link for this?
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Re: Jack says "F*ck Me!" in 1st tent scene!!! - *Spoiler* - New POLL
« Reply #188 on: Jan 02, 2007, 08:34 PM »
Quote from: Amaziiing.x on Jan 02, 2007, 08:22 PM
is there a youtube link for this?

I'm not aware of any youtube related link and... I never heard Jack say that.

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Re: Jack says "F*ck Me!" in 1st tent scene!!! - *Spoiler* - New POLL
« Reply #189 on: Jan 02, 2007, 11:12 PM »
Oh, Jack says it. I hear it every time I watch the movie. It's kind of staggered. F**k...................me. and mumbled, but it's there. Same thing with the "I'm sorry" in SNIT.
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Re: Jack says "F*ck Me!" in 1st tent scene!!! - *Spoiler* - New POLL
« Reply #190 on: Jan 02, 2007, 11:23 PM »
I must be deaf... but I'm not...  :s)

Nah!  Jack never sayed it.  Could I say I payed a lot of attention watching and listening to this movie, huh?  It's not because I tried very hard to hear it after  :s) 20 times, 30 times,  ::)  I give up, I lost the count  :i

I never heard it!
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Re: Jack says "F*ck Me!" in 1st tent scene!!! - *Spoiler* - New POLL
« Reply #191 on: Jan 02, 2007, 11:36 PM »
I am going to listen for this right now.... how did I miss this thread?  ???
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Re: Jack says "F*ck Me!" in 1st tent scene!!! - *Spoiler* - New POLL
« Reply #192 on: Jan 02, 2007, 11:43 PM »
Quote from: chameau on Jan 02, 2007, 11:23 PM
I must be deaf... but I'm not...  :s)

Nah!  Jack never sayed it.  Could I say I payed a lot of attention watching and listening to this movie, huh?  It's not because I tried very hard to hear it after  :s) 20 times, 30 times,  ::)  I give up, I lost the count  :i

I never heard it!

It's there darlin', trust me and I have horrible hearing.  ;D
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There was some open space between what he knew and what he tried to believe, but nothing could be done about it, and if you can't fix it you've got to stand it.

Ennis, riding against the wind back to the sheep in the treacherous, drunken darken light, thought he'd never had such a good time, felt he could paw the white out of the moon.

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Re: Jack says "F*ck Me!" in 1st tent scene!!! - *Spoiler* - New POLL
« Reply #193 on: Jan 02, 2007, 11:44 PM »
Maybe that's why I can hear it.  :s)
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There was some open space between what he knew and what he tried to believe, but nothing could be done about it, and if you can't fix it you've got to stand it.

Ennis, riding against the wind back to the sheep in the treacherous, drunken darken light, thought he'd never had such a good time, felt he could paw the white out of the moon.

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Re: Jack says "F*ck Me!" in 1st tent scene!!! - *Spoiler* - New POLL
« Reply #194 on: Jan 02, 2007, 11:44 PM »
Around where does he say it? Pre-spit and shove or post?  :-X
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Re: Jack says "F*ck Me!" in 1st tent scene!!! - *Spoiler* - New POLL
« Reply #195 on: Jan 02, 2007, 11:46 PM »
Quote from: carbyville on Jan 02, 2007, 11:44 PM
Around where does he say it? Pre-spit and shove or post?  :-X

Post. As he pounds his fist. F**k............................me! bam!
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There was some open space between what he knew and what he tried to believe, but nothing could be done about it, and if you can't fix it you've got to stand it.

Ennis, riding against the wind back to the sheep in the treacherous, drunken darken light, thought he'd never had such a good time, felt he could paw the white out of the moon.

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Re: Jack says "F*ck Me!" in 1st tent scene!!! - *Spoiler* - New POLL
« Reply #196 on: Jan 02, 2007, 11:49 PM »
Never heard it  ???

OK we are (Rick and I) due for another viewing together.  Your place or mine buddy?
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Re: Jack says "F*ck Me!" in 1st tent scene!!! - *Spoiler* - New POLL
« Reply #197 on: Jan 02, 2007, 11:52 PM »
Let me say this. One of the weakest parts of the movie and I think it is deliberate, is the sound. On my 3rd or 4th viewing of it in the theater, I'm just sitting there watching SNIT and all of a sudden I hear Ennis say, "I'm sorry, I'm sorry.", clear as a bell and then Jack says, "It's alright, it's alright." I wasn't looking to hear those words they were just there and to be honest I don't always hear them when I watch the DVD. The sound really sucks. But when I look away during that scene, I hear them.
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There was some open space between what he knew and what he tried to believe, but nothing could be done about it, and if you can't fix it you've got to stand it.

Ennis, riding against the wind back to the sheep in the treacherous, drunken darken light, thought he'd never had such a good time, felt he could paw the white out of the moon.

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Re: Jack says "F*ck Me!" in 1st tent scene!!! - *Spoiler* - New POLL
« Reply #198 on: Jan 02, 2007, 11:54 PM »
Quote from: chameau on Jan 02, 2007, 11:49 PM
Never heard it  ???

OK we are (Rick and I) due for another viewing together.  Your place or mine buddy?

Considering the time of year, what do you think?  ^-^ I'm in shorts with the door open.  :8 You know you are welcome here any time friend.
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There was some open space between what he knew and what he tried to believe, but nothing could be done about it, and if you can't fix it you've got to stand it.

Ennis, riding against the wind back to the sheep in the treacherous, drunken darken light, thought he'd never had such a good time, felt he could paw the white out of the moon.

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Re: Jack says "F*ck Me!" in 1st tent scene!!! - *Spoiler* - New POLL
« Reply #199 on: Jan 02, 2007, 11:57 PM »
off topic

I heard the same thing about SNIT, the I'm sorry it's allright stuff and also, 4 years later,  at the end of the reunion kiss, Ennis whispering "later" to Jack...

End of off topic

BTW I never heard the F*ck me line during FNIT
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Re: Jack says "F*ck Me!" in 1st tent scene!!! - *Spoiler* - New POLL
« Reply #200 on: Jan 02, 2007, 11:59 PM »
I think I heard it. It's not the most audible muttering of the phrase, but it is there.
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Re: Jack says "F*ck Me!" in 1st tent scene!!! - *Spoiler* - New POLL
« Reply #201 on: Jan 03, 2007, 12:00 AM »
We shall talk about that my friend. I am off to watch the end of Donnie Darko and then get some sleep. Night fellow Brokies.  <^(
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There was some open space between what he knew and what he tried to believe, but nothing could be done about it, and if you can't fix it you've got to stand it.

Ennis, riding against the wind back to the sheep in the treacherous, drunken darken light, thought he'd never had such a good time, felt he could paw the white out of the moon.

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Re: Jack says "F*ck Me!" in 1st tent scene!!! - *Spoiler* - New POLL
« Reply #202 on: Jan 03, 2007, 03:18 AM »
Well I did'nt hear it during the pounding but I heard it just as they begin the thrusts (sorry kids!). It's just as  he's lowering his head to the floor of the tent and sort of turns to look back at Ennis from the side. Then the camera pans slowly up to Ennis. It's said softly but he definitly says it. He also says "shit " when he hears Ennis spit lube on his hand.  Anybody hear THIS? I hear "comon" twice too.You hear more with earphones on but I have a suggestion.
1. Turn TV up to max.
2. Lay earphones next to your head and ears and listen as if your a "vouyuer" in the "other room"Beleive it or not this works too. Hee Hee.+ it distracts you from the picture so that your more tuned in audibly.
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« Reply #203 on: Jan 03, 2007, 03:59 AM »
Even if I heard new sounds at the EGT viewing, i did not hear it that day, even if i was expecting it (well hoping)!!
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Re: Jack says "F*ck Me!" in 1st tent scene!!! - *Spoiler* - New POLL
« Reply #204 on: Jan 03, 2007, 09:14 AM »
Quote from: aintfoolin on Jan 03, 2007, 03:18 AM
Well I did'nt hear it during the pounding but I heard it just as they begin the thrusts (sorry kids!). It's just as  he's lowering his head to the floor of the tent and sort of turns to look back at Ennis from the side. Then the camera pans slowly up to Ennis. It's said softly but he definitly says it. He also says "shit " when he hears Ennis spit lube on his hand.  Anybody hear THIS? I hear "comon" twice too.You hear more with earphones on but I have a suggestion.
1. Turn TV up to max.
2. Lay earphones next to your head and ears and listen as if your a "vouyuer" in the "other room"Beleive it or not this works too. Hee Hee.+ it distracts you from the picture so that your more tuned in audibly.

I kept my eyes closed so I could put my fill concentration to the sound and that is how I heard it. I did not hear Jack say "shit", though. That will be my next task.  :s)
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« Reply #205 on: Jan 03, 2007, 09:36 AM »
Quote from: BBBOY on Jan 02, 2007, 11:52 PM
Let me say this. One of the weakest parts of the movie and I think it is deliberate, is the sound. On my 3rd or 4th viewing of it in the theater, I'm just sitting there watching SNIT and all of a sudden I hear Ennis say, "I'm sorry, I'm sorry.", clear as a bell and then Jack says, "It's alright, it's alright." I wasn't looking to hear those words they were just there and to be honest I don't always hear them when I watch the DVD. The sound really sucks. But when I look away during that scene, I hear them.

I agree.  The sound is intentionally muffled and even garbled in many parts.  Knowing the screenplay helps a bit, but not in the improvised portions.
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« Reply #206 on: Jan 03, 2007, 08:34 PM »
I never heard the F me or sh*t. I did think I heard come on though. Oh well looks like I have more research to do  O0
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« Reply #207 on: Jan 03, 2007, 10:51 PM »
Quote from: LuvJackNasty on Jan 03, 2007, 08:34 PM
I never heard the F me or sh*t. I did think I heard come on though. Oh well looks like I have more research to do  O0

Like if we needed new reasons to watch BBM  :i

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Re: Jack says "F*ck Me!" in 1st tent scene!!! - *Spoiler* - New POLL
« Reply #208 on: Jan 04, 2007, 12:51 AM »
I hear:

Jack: (come here)
come on
come on - f*** me.

Ennis: What are you doin'?

Jack: f*** me! f*** f*** - f*** me
(entering)
oh, f*** me!
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oh god!
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f*** me.
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« Reply #209 on: Jan 04, 2007, 12:53 AM »
Quote from: Twisted on Jan 04, 2007, 12:51 AM
I hear:

Jack: (come here)
come on
come on - f*** me.

Ennis: What are you doin'?

Jack: f*** me! f*** f*** - f*** me
(entering)
oh, f*** me!
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oh god!
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f*** me.


That's pretty kinky. I'll listen for all of that once my antibiotics kick in and my ears aren't plugged anymore. I must say though, I have to crack a window or put the fan on now ;D
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