Topic: News Coverage: May 2006

[tpe]

I find this most interesting, as many people find the first part relatively static compared to the second.  But I agree.  I never tire of watching the first part, and I always dread the flowering of the second part.

Same here!!! I adore the first part of the movie.....and everytime I watch the movie, I want that summer on the mountain to last forever.....because each time, my heart goes up to brokeback with the two of them, and never wants to come down again.....

koka, I sort of identify 'islands' in the movie -- parts where I can breathe freely.  I think you can guess that almost all of them are the scenes where they are up in the mountains (even the later sadder ones) EXCEPT the last meeting, which has a fiery beauty to it all.

Th only 'island' not situated in the mountains is the reunion kiss.  That scene is incandescent.  It burns you to ashes.

[Koka]

I find this most interesting, as many people find the first part relatively static compared to the second.  But I agree.  I never tire of watching the first part, and I always dread the flowering of the second part.

Same here!!! I adore the first part of the movie.....and everytime I watch the movie, I want that summer on the mountain to last forever.....because each time, my heart goes up to brokeback with the two of them, and never wants to come down again.....

koka, I sort of identify 'islands' in the movie -- parts where I can breathe freely.  I think you can guess that almost all of them are the scenes where they are up in the mountains (even the later sadder ones) EXCEPT the last meeting, which has a fiery beauty to it all.

Th only 'island' not situated in the mountains is the reunion kiss.  That scene is incandescent.  It burns you to ashes.

My thoughts exactly.
and I just have to say- wow, you have such a way with words!!!! beautiful post! thank you.

[ennisandjack]

I find this most interesting, as many people find the first part relatively static compared to the second.  But I agree.  I never tire of watching the first part, and I always dread the flowering of the second part.

Same here!!! I adore the first part of the movie.....and everytime I watch the movie, I want that summer on the mountain to last forever.....because each time, my heart goes up to brokeback with the two of them, and never wants to come down again.....

koka, I sort of identify 'islands' in the movie -- parts where I can breathe freely.  I think you can guess that almost all of them are the scenes where they are up in the mountains (even the later sadder ones) EXCEPT the last meeting, which has a fiery beauty to it all.

Th only 'island' not situated in the mountains is the reunion kiss.  That scene is incandescent.  It burns you to ashes.

My thoughts exactly.
and I just have to say- wow, you have such a way with words!!!! beautiful post! thank you.

I have to second that thought. Truly beautiful post tpe - you truly are gifted.

The time up on the mountain is my favourite part of the film also. I love the scenes with the sheep and all the natural beauty. You really feel like you are there. There's a scene where its raining that is really delicate...and of course their first experience of love and the solitude. Amazing. Can't understand how people could find it boring...

[Koka]

I find this most interesting, as many people find the first part relatively static compared to the second.  But I agree.  I never tire of watching the first part, and I always dread the flowering of the second part.

Same here!!! I adore the first part of the movie.....and everytime I watch the movie, I want that summer on the mountain to last forever.....because each time, my heart goes up to brokeback with the two of them, and never wants to come down again.....

koka, I sort of identify 'islands' in the movie -- parts where I can breathe freely.  I think you can guess that almost all of them are the scenes where they are up in the mountains (even the later sadder ones) EXCEPT the last meeting, which has a fiery beauty to it all.

Th only 'island' not situated in the mountains is the reunion kiss.  That scene is incandescent.  It burns you to ashes.

My thoughts exactly.
and I just have to say- wow, you have such a way with words!!!! beautiful post! thank you.

I have to second that thought. Truly beautiful post tpe - you truly are gifted.

The time up on the mountain is my favourite part of the film also. I love the scenes with the sheep and all the natural beauty. You really feel like you are there. There's a scene where its raining that is really delicate...and of course their first experience of love and the solitude. Amazing. Can't understand how people could find it boring...

I know/comprehend why some poeple find it boring, but I can't relate to it. it's because I think that people aren't used to being alone with themselves nowadays. In a world where ( as far as the movie industry is concerned ) it's all about action blockbusters, people aren't used to seeing a movie that is slow and oh so simple in its complexity. people don't know how to enjoy scilence. they don't know what it's like to be part of nature- to blend with nature. they're not used to being forced to face and question themselves and everything they are and stand for. therefore, they don't allow themselves to feel the tremendous ( emotional, amond all others ) power that brokeback has. but alas, that is their loss.

[ennisandjack]

I know/comprehend why some poeple find it boring, but I can't relate to it. it's because I think that people aren't used to being alone with themselves nowadays. In a world where ( as far as the movie industry is concerned ) it's all about action blockbusters, people aren't used to seeing a movie that is slow and oh so simple in its complexity. people don't know how to enjoy scilence. they don't know what it's like to be part of nature- to blend with nature. they're not used to being forced to face and question themselves and everything they are and stand for. therefore, they don't allow themselves to feel the tremendous ( emotional, amond all others ) power that brokeback has. but alas, that is their loss.

I completely agree. I think the adjustment to the slower pace and the silence is uncomfortable for people, especially in the first act. There is also the need to read between the lines and understand the internal dialogue of the characters and all the unspoken emotions at play in the film. I find the film very meditative and the music is just sublime. You also sense the slow passing of time and the 20 years that go by are experienced somehow in the 2 hours of screen time. All done very subtlely. So many films hit you over the head with images and messages, I think BBM is special precisely because it doesn't do that. Instead it evokes gentler emotions. Its a gentle movie.I love that about it.

[Koka]

I know/comprehend why some poeple find it boring, but I can't relate to it. it's because I think that people aren't used to being alone with themselves nowadays. In a world where ( as far as the movie industry is concerned ) it's all about action blockbusters, people aren't used to seeing a movie that is slow and oh so simple in its complexity. people don't know how to enjoy scilence. they don't know what it's like to be part of nature- to blend with nature. they're not used to being forced to face and question themselves and everything they are and stand for. therefore, they don't allow themselves to feel the tremendous ( emotional, amond all others ) power that brokeback has. but alas, that is their loss.

I completely agree. I think the adjustment to the slower pace and the silence is uncomfortable for people, especially in the first act. There is also the need to read between the lines and understand the internal dialogue of the characters and all the unspoken emotions at play in the film. I find the film very meditative and the music is just sublime. You also sense the slow passing of time and the 20 years that go by are experienced somehow in the 2 hours of screen time. All done very subtlely. So many films hit you over the head with images and messages, I think BBM is special precisely because it doesn't do that. Instead it evokes gentler emotions. Its a gentle movie.I love that about it.

you read my mind girl!
I think brokeback is very mind provoking actually. it challanges you. you're either 'in' or you're not. and if you're in, if you're willing to let go, to allow yourself to experience, to understand, to read between the lines, to feel and to comprehend then you'll be able to fully enjoy the movie and suffer tremendously while watching it- at the same time. but if you remain closed and unwilling to be PART of the movie, then you're just gonna spend two hours of your life sitting in front of a screen and asking yourself what the hell you are doing here. because brokeback is everything but simple- it requires your PARTITIPATION. each time a person sees the movie, he or she becomes part of it and part of the creating process. brokeback is no one way street. it offers you emotions and then it's all up to you to decide what you want to do with them- whether you want to receive them and EXPERIENCE them while watching the movie or whether you want block them and pull back, remaining utterly cold and...closed. so it's all up to you. all the people on this forum, each and every single one of us- we decided to open our hearts&souls, we decided to take the emotions and to experience them on a personal level. thus we took part in CREATING brokeback mountain. and for that I am grateful to all of you.

[tpe]

I just spoke this morning with my neighbor and 2 gay friends.  My neighbor still insists that the first part was too slow. 

When you are in the midst of a delicious dream, you never want it to end.  Ang Lee articulated this scene with the deliberation and depth that we have come to associate with the pace of his movie-making.  It is only fitting that Brokeback mountain itself is established as the primordial character in this story.  The mountain as character is in itself a personification of their love.

[frances]

'Brokeback Mountain' inspires pop song
Monday, May 22, 2006[/b]

HONG KONG - The Associated Press


In its latest contribution to Chinese popular culture, the movie "Brokeback Mountain" has inspired a new song about forbidden love.

The Oscar-winning gay romance's popularity in the Chinese-speaking world, helped by the fame of its Taiwanese director, Ang Lee, has already made the term "Brokeback" popular slang in Cantonese, the Chinese dialect spoken in southern China, including Hong Kong.

Hong Kong media have used the term "Brokeback" to describe homosexuals or awkward relationships. Some gay activists consider the usage derogatory because it appears to treat homosexuals as exotic people.

Hong Kong lyricist Wyman Wong has gone further, penning a Chinese song whose title comes from the movie's most famous line, "I wish I knew how to quit you."

The song, performed by Hong Kong singer Denise Ho, is on her latest album, "Our Time Has Come."

Let me go out let me fly
Saunter for two days and back to this spot
I will die if caring for you ceased
was it because you hid my soul
I cant even control myself
made too many mistakes because of you
To look you up again I knew
I have to give up happiness as well

How wonderful are you actually
failing to meet someone like you elsewhere
make me revisit this path
close on losing my years of integrity
Yet I took the step
Is there no other in this boundless world

*Wish I could learn to quit you
only to allow me to look for a new confidante
gazing at your beautiful face with the likes of a scenic painting
the leaving me always stay rooted

Wish I was extreme enough to kick you aside
but how do I refuse those welcoming arms
I knew I could win
but I like to lose to you
Just as if you are me
How could I knifed you hurt you with my own hands*

How wonderful are you actually
failing to meet someone like you elsewhere
Beautiful to the extent of being dangerous
close on losing my years of integrity
Yet I took the step
The earth along the way to the hills has turned charred

I could only cut my heart out and give it to you personally

[LuvJackNasty]

I know/comprehend why some poeple find it boring, but I can't relate to it. it's because I think that people aren't used to being alone with themselves nowadays. In a world where ( as far as the movie industry is concerned ) it's all about action blockbusters, people aren't used to seeing a movie that is slow and oh so simple in its complexity. people don't know how to enjoy scilence. they don't know what it's like to be part of nature- to blend with nature. they're not used to being forced to face and question themselves and everything they are and stand for. therefore, they don't allow themselves to feel the tremendous ( emotional, amond all others ) power that brokeback has. but alas, that is their loss.

Well said Koka!

From the article:
"Our feelings for Jack and Ennis develop with their feelings for each other, and the cumulative effect of Brokeback Mountain is deeply involving and, finally, heart-breaking. In retrospect, I almost wished I had left at the halfway mark, before Ennis and Jack leave their mountainside and re-enter a world in which their relationship has no room to breathe. I would love to see the first half of Brokeback Mountain again, but I don’t think I’m strong enough to bear a repeat of the second."

Their time up on BBM passes too quickly everytime I watch it. I find their time up on BBM to be bittersweet.  I love watching them fall in love and I fall harder with them and each time the end becomes more unbearable.

[tpe]

I know/comprehend why some poeple find it boring, but I can't relate to it. it's because I think that people aren't used to being alone with themselves nowadays. In a world where ( as far as the movie industry is concerned ) it's all about action blockbusters, people aren't used to seeing a movie that is slow and oh so simple in its complexity. people don't know how to enjoy scilence. they don't know what it's like to be part of nature- to blend with nature. they're not used to being forced to face and question themselves and everything they are and stand for. therefore, they don't allow themselves to feel the tremendous ( emotional, amond all others ) power that brokeback has. but alas, that is their loss.

Well said Koka!

From the article:
"Our feelings for Jack and Ennis develop with their feelings for each other, and the cumulative effect of Brokeback Mountain is deeply involving and, finally, heart-breaking. In retrospect, I almost wished I had left at the halfway mark, before Ennis and Jack leave their mountainside and re-enter a world in which their relationship has no room to breathe. I would love to see the first half of Brokeback Mountain again, but I don’t think I’m strong enough to bear a repeat of the second."

Their time up on BBM passes too quickly everytime I watch it. I find their time up on BBM to be bittersweet.  I love watching them fall in love and I fall harder with them and each time the end becomes more unbearable.

Beautifully put!

We fall in love with them as they fall in love with each other.  That is why their joy becomes our joy, their pain becomes our pain, their death becomes out death.  Their love is our love.

[Koka]

Beautifully put!

We fall in love with them as they fall in love with each other.  That is why their joy becomes our joy, their pain becomes our pain, their death becomes out death.  Their love is our love.

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[chameau]

Oh my God....  :\'( :\'( :\'(

[frenchcda]

This is a link I found from bettermost.net in which the person will be attending teh festival commerating Brokeback Mountain day on JUNE 12 in Castro  selling T-SHIRT  with quotes of BBM all PROFITS go to the MATHEW SHEPPARD FOUNDATION    maybe interesting to take a look at it




                             

Sorry guys I had to delete the link for the following reason, it breaks my heart but all the Mods discussed about it and we have concensus, this is s reminder of our guidelines,

Chameau

"Commercial Messages

    Posts/profiles containing promotional messages without prior permission for commercial or charitable products or services -- included but not limited to Internet sites such as blogs, business advertisements and solicitations to business transactions or any personal interests -- will be removed. Unfortunately, it is impossible to verify the validity of each charitable organization, therefore, in an effort to protect our users from fraud, we must prohibit solicitations for charities, and all business transactions. If you receive spam via PM or email of such messages from members, please report it to the administrative staff"

[Jennis]

This is a link I found from bettermost.net in which the person will be attending teh festival commerating Brokeback Mountain day on JUNE 12 in Castro  selling T-SHIRT  with quotes of BBM all PROFITS go to the MATHEW SHEPPARD FOUNDATION    maybe interesting to take a look at it




                                 

That's wonderful  that the profits will go to Matthew's foundation.Thanks for the link.
J.x

Sorry guys I had to delete the link for the following reason, it breaks my heart but all the Mods discussed about it and we have concensus, this is s reminder of our guidelines,

Chameau

"Commercial Messages

    Posts/profiles containing promotional messages without prior permission for commercial or charitable products or services -- included but not limited to Internet sites such as blogs, business advertisements and solicitations to business transactions or any personal interests -- will be removed. Unfortunately, it is impossible to verify the validity of each charitable organization, therefore, in an effort to protect our users from fraud, we must prohibit solicitations for charities, and all business transactions. If you receive spam via PM or email of such messages from members, please report it to the administrative staff"

[Jim_in_Philly]

I know/comprehend why some poeple find it boring, but I can't relate to it. it's because I think that people aren't used to being alone with themselves nowadays. In a world where ( as far as the movie industry is concerned ) it's all about action blockbusters, people aren't used to seeing a movie that is slow and oh so simple in its complexity. people don't know how to enjoy scilence. they don't know what it's like to be part of nature- to blend with nature. they're not used to being forced to face and question themselves and everything they are and stand for. therefore, they don't allow themselves to feel the tremendous ( emotional, amond all others ) power that brokeback has. but alas, that is their loss.

I completely agree. I think the adjustment to the slower pace and the silence is uncomfortable for people, especially in the first act. There is also the need to read between the lines and understand the internal dialogue of the characters and all the unspoken emotions at play in the film. I find the film very meditative and the music is just sublime.

I am a meditator. I started meditating when I was in high school (89-91) and have had a consistent practice ever since 2000. Meditation has been a powerful tool to me and I just wanted to add to this thread by adding that by calming the mind, but allowing all of our racing thoughts and emotions still (if you need a good metaphor, watch Heath in all his interviews - he can't sit still!) you allow yourself to experience what is called "pure being." You simply "are." By bringing our mind down to a pure state of observation (mindfulness) we do not lose sight of inherent meaning.

Still with me?

I LOVE how the movie plays between the serenity and calm abiding of nature accompanies the love of Jack and Ennis. It helps to bring the audience's own mind down to a level of observation where they won't be distracted by anything unnecessary. That coupled with the gorgeous non-spoken dialog Ang works throughout the film with his imagery, and there's no surprise why it received the most Oscar nominations!

 :\'(

PSB is striking again...I think I should stop posting til I get a better grip.  LOL

Peace,

Jim

[tpe]

In a sense. the movie is a meditation on the myriad aspect of love.  It is hard to view the movie dispassionately without somehow acknowledging the transience of all human emotions.  Nevertheless, in the Buddhist sense, the tragedy of Ennis and Jack can cleanse us to a significant degree.  It is this purging power that brings us closer to a deeper appreciation of human nature, and that which transcends it in the grand scheme of things.

 

[Jim_in_Philly]

It is this purging power that brings us closer to a deeper appreciation of human nature, and that which transcends it in the grand scheme of things.

We could go one step further and discuss how the power of this movie revolves around attachment. Since all emotions begin and end in the mind, the true love so compelling and arresting in this movie already exists in our mind. And if we learn to experience it freely (and not only when someone we have set our desires upon - thus empowering them to be the trigger which brings forward that depth of love from within us) then we can begin to see what love truly is.

But I'm far from enlightened...and I don't know about you...but I still need movies like BBM to help me still feel that love within myself at all. 

Jim

[tpe]

It is this purging power that brings us closer to a deeper appreciation of human nature, and that which transcends it in the grand scheme of things.

We could go one step further and discuss how the power of this movie revolves around attachment. Since all emotions begin and end in the mind, the true love so compelling and arresting in this movie already exists in our mind. And if we learn to experience it freely (and not only when someone we have set our desires upon - thus empowering them to be the trigger which brings forward that depth of love from within us) then we can begin to see what love truly is.

But I'm far from enlightened...and I don't know about you...but I still need movies like BBM to help me still feel that love within myself at all. 

Jim

Jim, we all strive to find the Meaning of the Law. 

And yes, I do think BBM is a great mirror that reveals what is deep inside us. 

Thanks for your thoughts. 

[welshwitch]

It also has the effects of creating pity and fear in the minds of the audience - it's a tragedy by the Aristotelian definition.