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Re: why does alma freze and keep watching ennis and jack kiss
« Reply #120 on: Oct 12, 2006, 08:38 AM »
I think she stuck with him because there was at that point no alternative. When later there was, she took it.

The interesting question is what would have happened if she'd thrown Ennis out, or tried to. Would that have given him enough impetus to settle with Jack?
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Re: why does alma freze and keep watching ennis and jack kiss
« Reply #121 on: Oct 12, 2006, 01:53 PM »
I'm sure Alma did some thinking about how she was going to handle this new knowledge she picked up by viewing the kiss.  She had to weigh the pros and cons.  She obviously wasn't ready to give Ennis up at this time -- didn't want to raise two little girls alone -- what could she do?  On the other hand, she couldn't feel the same about Ennis as she had before the kiss.  What to do?  I think she did the only thing she could do -- pretend it didn't happen.  However, pretend all she might, she still knew what she had seen.  In those days, there would not have been any discussing this issue with Ennis.  It would have just been an argument -- denial on Ennis's part, then, if his temper flared up ( as it often did) the scene could have turned nasty.  Alma didn' want to chance that.  For the time being, she decided to let things go.  Kept her mouth shut and lived with her secret knowledge.
Very well said.  Perhaps she tried hard to pretend that everything was the same as before.  After all, she held on to the marriage for as long as she could.  She is quite interesting in her stoicism -- a stoicism not unlike Ennis's, although sometimes, I wonder if her stoicism was more extreme.  It was utter humiliation for her.  Perhaps her love for him was enormously greater...


I know.  Can you imagine the first time they had sex after that incident, how Alma must have felt, thinking about what Ennis had probably done with Jack, if she could imagine it.  But anyway, women then, in her kind of situation, so often felt "trapped" when they had young children.  It wasn't too long, though, before she found her way and realized she didn't need Ennis.  My sister was with a man who turned out to be horrible and abusive, but to her, the idea of trying to make her way alone, with three kids (and she didn't drive) was too much for her.  She was also manic-depressive, and died at 38, leaving the kids with him.  But wait, my point was, Ennis wasn't horrible and abusive -- he was "just" emotionally neglectful toward Alma.  "That's a life?" you could say, but it wasn't overtly horrible anyway.

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Re: why does alma freze and keep watching ennis and jack kiss
« Reply #122 on: Oct 13, 2006, 07:23 AM »
I think she stuck with him because there was at that point no alternative. When later there was, she took it.

The interesting question is what would have happened if she'd thrown Ennis out, or tried to. Would that have given him enough impetus to settle with Jack?

I had wondered about this, but something tells me: no.


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Re: why does alma freze and keep watching ennis and jack kiss
« Reply #123 on: Oct 13, 2006, 07:26 AM »
I know.  Can you imagine the first time they had sex after that incident, how Alma must have felt, thinking about what Ennis had probably done with Jack, if she could imagine it.  But anyway, women then, in her kind of situation, so often felt "trapped" when they had young children.  It wasn't too long, though, before she found her way and realized she didn't need Ennis.  My sister was with a man who turned out to be horrible and abusive, but to her, the idea of trying to make her way alone, with three kids (and she didn't drive) was too much for her.  She was also manic-depressive, and died at 38, leaving the kids with him.  But wait, my point was, Ennis wasn't horrible and abusive -- he was "just" emotionally neglectful toward Alma.  "That's a life?" you could say, but it wasn't overtly horrible anyway.

kathy

Ennis's favorite position must have gained added significance for Alma after the reunion.  She must have put two and two together...

I think you and ww are right -- Alma probably felt trapped.  This perhaps best explains her great resentment in the later years...

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Re: why does alma freze and keep watching ennis and jack kiss
« Reply #124 on: Oct 14, 2006, 09:02 PM »
I think she stuck with him because there was at that point no alternative. When later there was, she took it.

The interesting question is what would have happened if she'd thrown Ennis out, or tried to. Would that have given him enough impetus to settle with Jack?

I don't really think so... Ennis was in a state of denial and wouldn't settle with Jack even if Alma had thrown him out, because he was scared of taking the risk...
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