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Re: Symbols you will forever associate with BBM scenes
« Reply #330 on: Mar 05, 2007, 09:49 AM »
Poetically, mirrors have always meant the thing reflected in the mirror is just a shadow-image of the real thing.  I think this applies to Ennis in the mirror of Jack's truck when Jack pulls away to leave BBM.  Ennis, as viewed in the mirror, is losing his substance to Jack.  Ennis is becoming more and more unreal as his image recedes in the mirror until he will have disappeared completely. That's when the real heartbreak sets in.  We don't see Jack break down, as Ennis does, but we can imagine how difficult it was for Jack to see Ennis fade away -- maybe never to be seen again.

manhattangirl's comment on mirrors gets me going.

There is a great tradition in Buddhist thought about "The Great Mirror".  I would not be surprised if Ang Lee echoes this thought throughout BBM.  But Jack is indeed susceptible to this image.  The world of passions and illusions...

The other tradition in Buddhist thought is related to the notion of mirror: "The Floating Bridge of Dreams".  In the ss, we see this aspect in Ennis.


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Re: Symbols you will forever associate with BBM scenes
« Reply #331 on: Feb 23, 2008, 08:39 PM »
a lasso a cowboy hat and my most denim jackets with plad shirts lol

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Re: Symbols you will forever associate with BBM scenes
« Reply #332 on: Feb 24, 2008, 12:40 PM »
Sheep...whenever I see them alive or in another form,my instant thought...BBM
"What Jack remembered and craved in a way he could neither help nor understand was the time that distant summer on Brokeback when Ennis had come up behind him and pulled him close,the silent embrace satisfying some shared and sexless hunger."
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« Reply #333 on: Feb 24, 2008, 12:53 PM »
Sheep...whenever I see them alive or in another form,my instant thought...BBM

omg yes i cant beleive i forgot sheep  there are lots of sheep near my city i live on the outskirts so in about 5 minutes i can see them i sometimes go to watch them for this reason its became quite a frequent thing for me :)

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Re: Symbols you will forever associate with BBM scenes
« Reply #334 on: Feb 25, 2008, 08:35 AM »
Rodeos, cowboy hats in general , and country music songs about lost love and lonliness, whiskey, tents and campfires.
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Re: Symbols you will forever associate with BBM scenes
« Reply #335 on: Feb 25, 2008, 09:02 AM »
Vintage pajamas...  Country dances...

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Re: Symbols you will forever associate with BBM scenes
« Reply #336 on: Feb 25, 2008, 11:06 AM »
some intresting ones posted that i wouldnt think to rite down even though they do remind me of BBM

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Re: Symbols you will forever associate with BBM scenes
« Reply #337 on: Feb 25, 2008, 11:47 AM »
Country music and cowboys simbols in general,of course.

But also beans¡-even if I don't like them...-.And even more afther Heath's death,any love song or this kind of music that reminds you some open spaces,mostly in nature-don´t this happen to you sometimes?-.
And several words and expressions that forever will be associated with BBM memories and that I sometimes use in my daily life-even if in this case I speak in Spanish or Catalan-.

Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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Re: Symbols you will forever associate with BBM scenes
« Reply #338 on: Feb 25, 2008, 11:55 AM »
oh words that reminds me some people in my classes todaywere having a conversation im not sure what about nothing special though then as one of them walked away from the others they said "i swear..." i dont know what context it was in but it really got me thinkng  :\'(

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« Reply #339 on: Feb 25, 2008, 03:27 PM »
A lasso, a black resistol, an old dirty pickup, cold high mountains, the sound of some bad harmonica, the lonely chord of a guitar, leather gloves, whiskey bottles, some quiet river, a warm night fire, puppy dogs, dusty long roads, plaid shirts, wet field of yellow flowers, brilliant blue eyes, mumbled words, just EVERYTHING.

And just everyday all "the leaning". That opening scene with Jack leaning against his truck just stole my heart. And I knew in that moment that my life will never be the same again.

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Re: Symbols you will forever associate with BBM scenes
« Reply #340 on: Feb 25, 2008, 03:34 PM »
A lasso, a black resistol, an old dirty pickup, cold high mountains, the sound of some bad harmonica, the lonely chord of a guitar, leather gloves, whiskey bottles, some quiet river, a warm night fire, puppy dogs, dusty long roads, plaid shirts, wet field of yellow flowers, brilliant blue eyes, mumbled words, just EVERYTHING.

And just everyday all "the leaning". That opening scene with Jack leaning against his truck just stole my heart. And I knew in that moment that my life will never be the same again.


you think jack plays the harmonica bad i got mine for £2.00 from a shop when on a school trip last year lol the teacher driving the bus thought it was funny but my class mates were just angry coz they couldnt sleep lol i played one tune none stop and it was awful lol i have recordings if you want to hear lol

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Re: Symbols you will forever associate with BBM scenes
« Reply #341 on: Feb 25, 2008, 04:20 PM »
oh words that reminds me some people in my classes todaywere having a conversation im not sure what about nothing special though then as one of them walked away from the others they said "i swear..." i dont know what context it was in but it really got me thinkng  :\'(

That is¡Words or expressions that we could consider "Brokebackisms" in daily life:f.e.,finishing my questions with a "huh?".More specifically-and comically...-,when something is going well or I have a good news,I'm getting used to shout "Yeee haaaawww¡".Yes,it's true,and I'm already so used to it that the problem arrives if a client in my job makes us a command or a supplier carries everything well to us,or stuff...I can't shout like that in these cases¡or they will think I'm a little :i
Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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Re: Symbols you will forever associate with BBM scenes
« Reply #342 on: Feb 25, 2008, 04:22 PM »
That is¡Words or expressions that we could consider "Brokebackisms" in daily life:f.e.,finishing my questions with a "huh?".More specifically-and comically...-,when something is going well or I have a good news,I'm getting used to shout "Yeee haaaawww¡".Yes,it's true,and I'm already so used to it that the problem arrives if a client in my job makes us a command or a supplier carries everything well to us,or stuff...I can't shout like that in these cases¡or they will think I'm a little :i

yes just a little crazy lol

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Re: Symbols you will forever associate with BBM scenes
« Reply #343 on: Feb 25, 2008, 04:48 PM »
   

    cowboy hats and sheep remind me of BBM :c)
if time were not a moving thing if i could make it stay this hour of love we share would allways be
there would be no coming days to shine a morning  light make us realise our night is over.

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Re: Symbols you will forever associate with BBM scenes
« Reply #344 on: Feb 25, 2008, 08:14 PM »
That is Words or expressions that we could consider "Brokebackisms" in daily life:. . . .

You Bet.

This phrase used a lot here in the mid-west, but I'll always think of Ennis and his eager reunion with Jack.
we get to drinkin' and talkin' an all

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Re: Symbols you will forever associate with BBM scenes
« Reply #345 on: Feb 25, 2008, 09:44 PM »

Sheep...whenever I see them alive or in another form,my instant thought...BBM

I made my mom buy a Beanie Baby sheep at the bookstore the other day and I was gunna name is Ennis but my mom says it's a girl sheep so I named her "Emma"...next toy I'm gettin' is Ennis!!  ::)

Other things that remind me? The words "huh", if two guys hug each other from the back (I saw two brothers do it in a movie today...I looked at my friend and she's like "What"...I felt stupid xD)..Sheep, cowboy hats..and i'm sure a LOT more ;D
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Re: Symbols you will forever associate with BBM scenes
« Reply #346 on: Feb 25, 2008, 10:35 PM »
    Tire irons.  I will always associate them with people of spite and malice, who are certain they have a right to be judgmental, self-righteous,
and  careful not to get caught.

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Re: Symbols you will forever associate with BBM scenes
« Reply #347 on: Feb 25, 2008, 11:45 PM »
cowboy hats, shirts like the two shirts, cherry cake, beans, apple pie, trailer, mountains, hawks circling, hawks calling, blue colliers, Elks, rodeos, Alberta, Wyoming
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Re: Symbols you will forever associate with BBM scenes
« Reply #348 on: Feb 26, 2008, 08:38 AM »
Pup tents, rodeo belt buckles, paper bags used to carry clothes...


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« Reply #349 on: Feb 26, 2008, 08:41 AM »
Pup tents, rodeo belt buckles, paper bags used to carry clothes...



oh yer tents and rodeo buckles not things i see often but in anycase when i do i most certainly think of this film :)

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« Reply #350 on: Feb 26, 2008, 08:48 AM »
And I don't think we rarely see people putting clothes in paper bags, no?  It seemed to have been a typical practice for Ennis, on account of his poverty, I suppose?


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« Reply #351 on: Feb 26, 2008, 08:51 AM »
And I don't think we rarely see people putting clothes in paper bags, no?  It seemed to have been a typical practice for Ennis, on account of his poverty, I suppose?



yer, even if he had the money for a real bag for his clothes he'd probably come out with something about not wanting to waste money when a papebag was perfectly fine he was so stubborn :). oh god im feeling sad now. i get nostalgic when talking about the character mannerisms lol

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« Reply #352 on: Feb 26, 2008, 08:55 AM »
That is true, he was simple to the extreme.  Alma Jr. certainly voiced this in the last scene...

This leads me to another symbol: sparsely furnished trailers...

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« Reply #353 on: Feb 26, 2008, 11:36 PM »
Pup tents, rodeo belt buckles, paper bags used to carry clothes...


Yes, I especially like the paper bags, and later the feed sack thing.

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« Reply #354 on: Feb 27, 2008, 07:47 AM »
Yes, I especially like the paper bags, and later the feed sack thing.

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Yes.  :) 

I don't seem to recall how Jack packed up his clothes during any part of the film.  I think he varried his clothes in the BBM scenes a bit more than Ennis, no?

For jack of course, one can associate him with the various trucks he used over the years... 


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« Reply #355 on: Feb 27, 2008, 10:43 AM »
Yes.  :) 

I don't seem to recall how Jack packed up his clothes during any part of the film.  I think he varried his clothes in the BBM scenes a bit more than Ennis, no?

For jack of course, one can associate him with the various trucks he used over the years... 



yer the trucks and he often wore a blue shirt so i connect blue shirts to jack aswell lol

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« Reply #356 on: Feb 27, 2008, 11:07 AM »
yer the trucks and he often wore a blue shirt so i connect blue shirts to jack aswell lol

Yes,me too.A few months ago I went to a horses fair in Pyrenees; I was wearing a blue shirt and a blue jeans and I bought there a black hat.I was only lacking the blue eyes-well,something more...lol -. :c)
Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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« Reply #357 on: Feb 27, 2008, 11:09 AM »
Yes,me too.A few months ago I went to a horses fair in Pyrenees; I was wearing a blue shirt and a blue jeans and I bought there a black hat.I was only lacking the blue eyes-well,something more...lol -.

lol. also whisky reminds me off this film especially the scenes on brokeback

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« Reply #358 on: Feb 27, 2008, 11:16 AM »
lol. also whisky reminds me off this film especially the scenes on brokeback

And also the results that whiskey excesses can bring,no?   >:D
Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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« Reply #359 on: Feb 27, 2008, 11:22 AM »
And also the results that whiskey excesses can bring,no?   >:D

lol im not legal to drink yet, so i dont know #).
no im actually legal to drink at home not as much as i do and the drinks i do but eh, glass of wine with a meal bottle of vodka with some party food you know hahahah im glad  i live in england for this reason in america you have to be 21 to drink full stop. i couldnt stand that never being drunk before 21 i probably sound like an alchoholic now but im not just a gyllenhaalic.

any way back on topic lol, horses also remind me of BBM