Topic: What would you say if you could step into a scene?

[ksxks]

  I would probably do the same!

And WW: I don't think the 3 women would be chased away that easily! 

They would if a slew of mad Brokies got to them!  I love your image, WW, like a bunch of crows -- we'd scare them away!

We'd sit them down and tell them outrageous tales about things they then knew nothing about.  And then we'd find them other boyfriends and husbands or whatever (I already said I'd whisk Alma away into the land of the lesbians).

kathy

[welshwitch]

tpe has never seen me in scary mode.

In a way iot would be a favor to Cassie to warn her off so that she wouldn't waste emotional energy on someone who was never going to respond as she wanted.

[lightnin flat]

         Also perhaps in some scenes jack or ennis could be prompted to say I LOVE YOU as they never did say that to each other. I think it would come easy for jack to say those three little words but i think ennis would have a problem saying it.
                   
             sometimes actions speak louder than words  perhaps they didnt feel the need to say it to each other because you know when someone loves you.

[aintfoolin]

I'd step into the scene where Ennis comes to ask for Jack's ashes, distract Sr. Twist so that Mrs. Twist could slip Ennis the ashes. His statement , "We got a family plot and he's goin in it"  let's me know that the ashes/urn  are still somewhere in the house. It was Jack's wish to rest peacfully on BBM, his fav place. He knew that only  Ennis would  find a way to take him there but probably figured he'd need his mother's help to do it. She said " come back and see us again" Maybe if he came back , she would give them to him perhaps upon her husband's death, but, sorry OMT, had I been able to jump into the scene , he would'nt have to wait that long to have Jack rest where he wanted.

[lightnin flat]

I'd step into the scene where Ennis comes to ask for Jack's ashes, distract Sr. Twist so that Mrs. Twist could slip Ennis the ashes. His statement , "We got a family plot and he's goin in it"  let's me know that the ashes/urn  are still somewhere in the house. It was Jack's wish to rest peacfully on BBM, his fav place. He knew that only  Ennis would  find a way to take him there but probably figured he'd need his mother's help to do it. She said " come back and see us again" Maybe if he came back , she would give them to him perhaps upon her husband's death, but, sorry OMT, had I been able to jump into the scene , he would'nt have to wait that long to have Jack rest where he wanted.

 
     
                What i find strange is that half jacks ashes are in texas and half are in lighting flat thats what laureen said didnt she .when she said to ennis we put a stone up half his ashes were intered here and half were sent up to his folks.
                when ennis said i swear  i think thats what he meant if thats the last thing ennis does he WILL bury jacks ashes on BBM.
                     sorry if i went

                     

[lightnin flat]

                                 Ennis will bury jacks ashes with the two shirts i am sure of that on BBM.

[myprivatejack]

                                 Ennis will bury jacks ashes with the two shirts i am sure of that on BBM.

I´m not so sure that Ennis would bury Jack´s ashes with the two shirts,because this is  more than a souvenir from a loving person for Ennis;these clothings are a living reminder to him for never denying his true self,his inner feelings,as he had been doing with Jack half his life.The two shirts are an eternel souvenir of their love,but also an eternal lesson for Ennis.

[aintfoolin]

                                 Ennis will bury jacks ashes with the two shirts i am sure of that on BBM.

 Lightnin Flat,

I used to think that Ennis would bury the shirts too but, have since changed my mind about it. Apparently Jack left a  last wish to be cremated and have his ashes spread on BBM, a specific place, and apparently had mentioned BB  to Lureen in some form. I also found it strange that the ashes were split like this. Who's idea this was? I don't know  Lureen thought it a pretend place, something Jack just made up, But the shirts?, well I think he meant Ennis to keep them with him. A reminder to Ennis that he was there and always will be. A gift to feel.

Ennis, no doubt would have probably made frequent trips up to BBM after Jack's death partly, to reflect and remember how close he was to Jack or to feel Jack's presence up there, especially on specific anniversary dates like the day he met Jack etc....  But the shirts were his to have and to hold. whenever he wanted.
I think Jack would have wanted this way.  The ashes spread on BBM+theshirts sends  a strong message to Ennis... After all is said and done...Remember me this way. This is only my opinion

[lightnin flat]

Lightnin Flat,

I used to think that Ennis would bury the shirts too but, have since changed my mind about it. Apparently Jack left a  last wish to be cremated and have his ashes spread on BBM, a specific place, and apparently had mentioned BB  to Lureen in some form. I also found it strange that the ashes were split like this. Who's idea this was? I don't know  Lureen thought it a pretend place, something Jack just made up, But the shirts?, well I think he meant Ennis to keep them with him. A reminder to Ennis that he was there and always will be. A gift to feel.

Ennis, no doubt would have probably made frequent trips up to BBM after Jack's death partly, to reflect and remember how close he was to Jack or to feel Jack's presence up there, especially on specific anniversary dates like the day he met Jack etc....  But the shirts were his to have and to hold. whenever he wanted.
I think Jack would have wanted this way.  The ashes spread on BBM+theshirts sends  a strong message to Ennis... After all is said and done...Remember me this way. This is only my opinion

                                                                                                                                                                 
Now i have finished  crying after what you wrote .   
             
                Oh my god ennis going up to BBM to reflect and remember  how close he was to jack or to feel jacks presence up there.Thats to sad for me to think about ennis up there without the love of his life.
               

                      Yea you are right that ennis would want to keep the shirts because thats all he has left of jack apart from his thoughts and what he has in his heart .I thought ennis would perhaps bury the shirts on BBM because what would happen to them once ennis dies.                         
               
                                               :\'(  :\'(  :\'(

                       

[myprivatejack]

In former posts I said that I´d stepped ,not into a scene,but into this time between their separation and Ennis´marriage to give them time to meditate without the emotional charge they were suffering during the first times.But,if it didn´t work,I´d do it when Jack told Ennis:-"The true is sometimes I miss you so much,I can hardly stand it.", and this,as ever, didn´t know what to say in return.I´d tell him that this was the moment to decide to give Jack an opportunity,beyond his fears,because he´s not happy in his marriage with Lureen.Nothing nor nobody else,then,is placed between them already,only themselves.-"Don´t be silly-I´d told-because this man has been waiting for you during too many years as to not give him a hope.Maybe one day you´ll regret it.Or at least,tell him you also miss him because you love him as nobody else before."

[Tony]

Ouch----felt so bad for Ennis at the end---he'd never have another lover, I think, male or female, he was so lost in the past.
To me he was a real person, so I guess I'd have wanted to wait a minute or two after the very last scene, and even knowing it
would be interrupting his grief, knock on the door, say I was in the trailer down the road....and try to be a friend.  Because it
looked like he didn't have any friends, either.
    If we're allowed a second choice, I'd have liked to be loaded with money, and stumble into the scene where Jack proposes more,
yet again, and Ennis loses his cooking-ware in the stream, and say  I had a ranch that needed tending and it had a great, modern
cabin, and the pay was good......and maybe let them find a way to live together.
    Wouldn't let the movie be what it was, but would have been a way to help out.  Tony.

[ksxks]

How sweet, Tony.  Of course you're right and we all know Brokeback Mountain wouldn't be Brokeback Mountain with a happy ending.  But I love your ideas -- to be a friend to Ennis.  Or to give them a place where they could work a ranch together but yet seemingly, to the eyes of the world, just be working there...and then they could ease into things easier.

kathy

[lancecowboy]

I used to think that Ennis would bury the shirts too but, have since changed my mind about it. Apparently Jack left a  last wish to be cremated and have his ashes spread on BBM, a specific place, and apparently had mentioned BB  to Lureen in some form. I also found it strange that the ashes were split like this. Who's idea this was? I don't know  Lureen thought it a pretend place, something Jack just made up, But the shirts?, well I think he meant Ennis to keep them with him. A reminder to Ennis that he was there and always will be. A gift to feel.

Ennis, no doubt would have probably made frequent trips up to BBM after Jack's death partly, to reflect and remember how close he was to Jack or to feel Jack's presence up there, especially on specific anniversary dates like the day he met Jack etc....  But the shirts were his to have and to hold. whenever he wanted.
I think Jack would have wanted this way.  The ashes spread on BBM+theshirts sends  a strong message to Ennis... After all is said and done...Remember me this way. This is only my opinion

Thank you for exploring Jack's motivation. I never thought of Jack's intentionally leaving the shirts for Ennis to find. This makes perfect sense! I always wondered about Jack's mom sending Ennis upstairs. It is so clear now that you said it. Jack came out to his mother about Ennis, if not to both his parents. His mom definitely knew about the shirts, and expected Ennis to find them. She nodded slightly in recognition of the shirts, and quickly pulled a paper bag for him, even blocking the father's view while putting them in the bag. I love the little extra caress she put on the shirt just before letting go. Like saying good bye to Jack.  :\'( This is going to make me cry for the first time while writing in the forum.

That last scene in the kitchen is phenomenal! It ties together so many elements, from Jack's childhood (a loving religious mother and a bad-tempered old man) to Jack's relationship to his parents after meeting Ennis, and finally a foreshadow of what will happen with Jack's ashes and Ennis' relationship with Jack's mom.  :\'(

Of course she knew about the shirts. Of course she meant for Ennis to find them. And of course she did it because that's what Jack told her, that if anything happens to him, to take good care of them, and find a way to give them to Ennis! I didn't get Jack at first, but the more I read about him in the forums, the more I love him, as everyone else.  :\'(

What a lovely womand, too! Jack's mother was compassionate for Ennis from the beginning, and yet had to show restraint in front of the old man.  :\'( :\'( :\'( If only the two of them, Ennis and the mother, can spend some private time together. I would love to see Ennis visiting lightening flat after the old passed away. Perhaps he will help run the ranch for Mrs. Twist.

I got to stop now. It's getting too emotional to keep typing.

 

[ksxks]

Thank you for exploring Jack's motivation. I never thought of Jack's intentionally leaving the shirts for Ennis to find. This makes perfect sense! I always wondered about Jack's mom sending Ennis upstairs. It is so clear now that you said it. Jack came out to his mother about Ennis, if not to both his parents. His mom definitely knew about the shirts, and expected Ennis to find them. She nodded slightly in recognition of the shirts, and quickly pulled a paper bag for him, even blocking the father's view while putting them in the bag. I love the little extra caress she put on the shirt just before letting go. Like saying good bye to Jack.  :\'( This is going to make me cry for the first time while writing in the forum.

That last scene in the kitchen is phenomenal! It ties together so many elements, from Jack's childhood (a loving religious mother and a bad-tempered old man) to Jack's relationship to his parents after meeting Ennis, and finally a foreshadow of what will happen with Jack's ashes and Ennis' relationship with Jack's mom.  :\'(

Of course she knew about the shirts. Of course she meant for Ennis to find them. And of course she did it because that's what Jack told her, that if anything happens to him, to take good care of them, and find a way to give them to Ennis! I didn't get Jack at first, but the more I read about him in the forums, the more I love him, as everyone else.  :\'(

What a lovely womand, too! Jack's mother was compassionate for Ennis from the beginning, and yet had to show restraint in front of the old man.  :\'( :\'( :\'( If only the two of them, Ennis and the mother, can spend some private time together. I would love to see Ennis visiting lightening flat after the old passed away. Perhaps he will help run the ranch for Mrs. Twist.
I got to stop now. It's getting too emotional to keep typing.

 

This has always been a favorite story of my heart, too, that Ennis and Jack's mother could find some comfort with each other...after the old man goes, that is.  I'm sure Ennis would love to help her, and he would love to hear more about Jack from her; and Ennis could tell her a lot about the Jack he knew...  Beautiful thought.

kathy

[lancecowboy]

This has always been a favorite story of my heart, too, that Ennis and Jack's mother could find some comfort with each other...after the old man goes, that is.  I'm sure Ennis would love to help her, and he would love to hear more about Jack from her; and Ennis could tell her a lot about the Jack he knew...  Beautiful thought.

kathy

Yes, that would be a great way to end the story in a happy way, to provide closure that many found lacking.

I can see the new ending - Ennis visiting both parents over the years for thanksgiving and christmas. Then as the old man got older, Ennis visits more often, and staying in Jack's room, helping with the chores.

The old man finally accepts Ennis, and by extension, Jack, regretting all the mean thing he used to do, and passed away peaceful, knowing Jack and Ennis would forgive him, telling Ennis to take Jack's ashes to Brokeback.

Ennis and Mrs. Twist live in the ranch for many years. In the evening, Ennis would tell her about the things they used to do sheep herding, the stories that Jack used to tell. She would tell Ennis about Jack's childhood, and the stories he told her about Ennis.

In the end, Mrs Twist passes peacefully in Ennis' arms. In the tradition of Jack, she wants half her ashes to stay in the family plot, and the other to be next to Jack (and Ennis) in Brokeback Mountain.

Ennis was again alone in the ranch, having inherited it from Mrs Twist. He developed it into a resort, for city slickers who want to experience western living. The man who never traveled further than the coffee pot looking for the handle now has the world come knocking on his door.

His ranch became a success, especially after he hired a few good ranch hands. One of them, (fill in your favorite description), over the years, became the love that Ennis missed. They grew old together. And Ennis left the ranch to his new love, with a will to take to Brokeback Mountain his own ashes, as well as Jack and Mrs. Twist's.

The final scene...at the beginning of a sunny day, with sunshine reflecting off the snowy peaks of Brokeback Mountain, and ice chips floating past the tree lined riverbank, and the end of the night's fire dying ember crackling in the morning breeze, a quiet man, surrounded by Ennis' family (his daughters and grandchildren), slowly pour Jack's and Ennis' ashes into the fire. Fade to black...

[ksxks]

Yes, that would be a great way to end the story in a happy way, to provide closure that many found lacking.

I can see the new ending - Ennis visiting both parents over the years for thanksgiving and christmas. Then as the old man got older, Ennis visits more often, and staying in Jack's room, helping with the chores.

The old man finally accepts Ennis, and by extension, Jack, regretting all the mean thing he used to do, and passed away peaceful, knowing Jack and Ennis would forgive him, telling Ennis to take Jack's ashes to Brokeback.

Ennis and Mrs. Twist live in the ranch for many years. In the evening, Ennis would tell her about the things they used to do sheep herding, the stories that Jack used to tell. She would tell Ennis about Jack's childhood, and the stories he told her about Ennis.

In the end, Mrs Twist passes peacefully in Ennis' arms. In the tradition of Jack, she wants half her ashes to stay in the family plot, and the other to be next to Jack (and Ennis) in Brokeback Mountain.

Ennis was again alone in the ranch, having inherited it from Mrs Twist. He developed it into a resort, for city slickers who want to experience western living. The man who never traveled further than the coffee pot looking for the handle now has the world come knocking on his door.

His ranch became a success, especially after he hired a few good ranch hands. One of them, (fill in your favorite description), over the years, became the love that Ennis missed. They grew old together. And Ennis left the ranch to his new love, with a will to take to Brokeback Mountain his own ashes, as well as Jack and Mrs. Twist's.

The final scene...at the beginning of a sunny day, with sunshine reflecting off the snowy peaks of Brokeback Mountain, and ice chips floating past the tree lined riverbank, and the end of the night's fire dying ember crackling in the morning breeze, a quiet man, surrounded by Ennis' family (his daughters and grandchildren), slowly pour Jack's and Ennis' ashes into the fire. Fade to black...

Excuse me -- you should just go ahead and write this story!  (Do you read any of the fanfic?  I don't recall if you've said you do or not.)  I especially like your treatment of old Mr. Twist -- to change him, not discount him.  To let him come to peace with Jack through Ennis...  That's beautiful.

kathy

[lancecowboy]

Excuse me -- you should just go ahead and write this story!  (Do you read any of the fanfic?  I don't recall if you've said you do or not.)  I especially like your treatment of old Mr. Twist -- to change him, not discount him.  To let him come to peace with Jack through Ennis...  That's beautiful.

kathy

Thanks, Kathy. That was my first attempt at writing, anything, in a long time. I took a creative writing class in high school. I enjoyed keeping a journal for a few years, but stopped the practice, for some unknown reason. All the discussion in the forum is inspiring, and I just let the characters, as alive and as real as they are in my mind, to follow their own course. I can't imagine Mr. Twist staying mad at Ennis.

I will be sure to look into turning this into a proper screen play format. Maybe someone will turn this into a real filming project for some students. I'd love to see a happy ending. There are so many possibilities, too, I didn't want to stay up too too late writing out the rest of it. For example, the meeting with Ennis' grand children, how he taught them to ride, to hunt. Then when they gathered together for the ashes ceremony, they would all tell stories of how Ennis showed them different parts of the Mountain, where he and Jack visited. As Ennis remembers the past, there would be flash back to the happiest moments in his life. The new love character would be very interesting and complex, to accept Jack as the love of Ennis' life. I see so many possibilities.

Brokeback got me good, that's for damn sure.

[aintfoolin]

Thank you for exploring Jack's motivation. I never thought of Jack's intentionally leaving the shirts for Ennis to find. This makes perfect sense! I always wondered about Jack's mom sending Ennis upstairs. It is so clear now that you said it. Jack came out to his mother about Ennis, if not to both his parents. His mom definitely knew about the shirts, and expected Ennis to find them. She nodded slightly in recognition of the shirts, and quickly pulled a paper bag for him, even blocking the father's view while putting them in the bag. I love the little extra caress she put on the shirt just before letting go. Like saying good bye to Jack.  :\'( This is going to make me cry for the first time while writing in the forum.

That last scene in the kitchen is phenomenal! It ties together so many elements, from Jack's childhood (a loving religious mother and a bad-tempered old man) to Jack's relationship to his parents after meeting Ennis, and finally a foreshadow of what will happen with Jack's ashes and Ennis' relationship with Jack's mom.  :\'(

Of course she knew about the shirts. Of course she meant for Ennis to find them. And of course she did it because that's what Jack told her, that if anything happens to him, to take good care of them, and find a way to give them to Ennis! I didn't get Jack at first, but the more I read about him in the forums, the more I love him, as everyone else.  :\'(

What a lovely womand, too! Jack's mother was compassionate for Ennis from the beginning, and yet had to show restraint in front of the old man.  :\'( :\'( :\'( If only the two of them, Ennis and the mother, can spend some private time together. I would love to see Ennis visiting lightening flat after the old passed away. Perhaps he will help run the ranch for Mrs. Twist.

I got to stop now. It's getting too emotional to keep typing.

 

It's easy to become emotional about this film, it's so powerful, but I love your post! I loved Jack's mom. She was a great understanding lady. Her statement about leaving Jack's room like it was "was he was a boy". Jack is now 39 going on 40. Maybe she meant when Jack was a 19 year old boy. As a loving mother, Jack will always be her little boy, but perhaps Jack told her about his relationship with Ennis in "63" his first visit back to LF after BBM. I feel she definitly knew of her son's affair with Ennis and agreed to be caretaker of the shirts. I think as you said that Jack told her that the shirts were to go to Ennis, if something happned to him.

Jack had so much faith in the man who only went around the coffe pot to find the handle that he just knew that one day Ennis would end up somehow at LF and claim his gift of love with his mother's help. She not only knew , but played a part in the shirts landing in their  rightful owner's hands.

She did invite Ennis back. I like to believe he took her up on the offer. BTW your story ending is wonderful. If it's ever made into a movie , I'll be one of the first in line to see it. Good luck and thanks.

[lancecowboy]

It's easy to become emotional about this film, it's so powerful, but I love your post! I loved Jack's mom. She was a great understanding lady. Her statement about leaving Jack's room like it was "was he was a boy". Jack is now 39 going on 40. Maybe she meant when Jack was a 19 year old boy. As a loving mother, Jack will always be her little boy, but perhaps Jack told her about his relationship with Ennis in "63" his first visit back to LF after BBM. I feel she definitly knew of her son's affair with Ennis and agreed to be caretaker of the shirts. I think as you said that Jack told her that the shirts were to go to Ennis, if something happned to him.

Jack had so much faith in the man who only went around the coffe pot to find the handle that he just knew that one day Ennis would end up somehow at LF and claim his gift of love with his mother's help. She not only knew , but played a part in the shirts landing in their  rightful owner's hands.

She did invite Ennis back. I like to believe he took her up on the offer. BTW your story ending is wonderful. If it's ever made into a movie , I'll be one of the first in line to see it. Good luck and thanks.

The more I learn about the depth of Jack's love for Ennis, the more tears come whenever one of those moments come.

As for extended ending, we will need to get permission from Annie Proulx and anyone else holding the copyright. I am totally ignorant of this business so was only expressing how I felt. I am glad you like it, too. Can I sit next to you at the premiere? We can share the same box of tissues. 

Then again, with a happy ending, maybe we won't need tissues.

 

[aintfoolin]

Oh we'll definitly need tissues! Knowing how the story ended in BBM, then to have them both redeemed in your screenplay/movie the tears would flow out of sheer joy.
I'd be honored to sit next to you and we as two true Brokies can bawl our eyes out together!  ,,,Jack and Ennis forever. Thanks.

[lancecowboy]

Oh we'll definitly need tissues! Knowing how the story ended in BBM, then to have them both redeemed in your screenplay/movie the tears would flow out of sheer joy.
I'd be honored to sit next to you and we as two true Brokies can bawl our eyes out together!  ,,,Jack and Ennis forever. Thanks.

I would be honored to have anything to do with Brokeback Mountain, to be associated with it in any way. I feel privileged to be a part of this forum.

Ennis and Jack forever!!! I guess you like Jack better, so you can wear the black hat.

[ksxks]

Thanks, Kathy. That was my first attempt at writing, anything, in a long time. I took a creative writing class in high school. I enjoyed keeping a journal for a few years, but stopped the practice, for some unknown reason. All the discussion in the forum is inspiring, and I just let the characters, as alive and as real as they are in my mind, to follow their own course. I can't imagine Mr. Twist staying mad at Ennis.

I will be sure to look into turning this into a proper screen play format. Maybe someone will turn this into a real filming project for some students. I'd love to see a happy ending. There are so many possibilities, too, I didn't want to stay up too too late writing out the rest of it. For example, the meeting with Ennis' grand children, how he taught them to ride, to hunt. Then when they gathered together for the ashes ceremony, they would all tell stories of how Ennis showed them different parts of the Mountain, where he and Jack visited. As Ennis remembers the past, there would be flash back to the happiest moments in his life. The new love character would be very interesting and complex, to accept Jack as the love of Ennis' life. I see so many possibilities.

Brokeback got me good, that's for damn sure.

Quit telling us the details, and write it -- why not write it as a story, not a screenplay format?  I think you need to.  For you, and for us.

kathy

[lancecowboy]

Quit telling us the details, and write it -- why not write it as a story, not a screenplay format?  I think you need to.  For you, and for us.

kathy

You know, you are right. Thanks, Kathy. I never thought of it that way. I think I do need to write it. As a way of visualizing what can be in the future. Just as, the part of Brokeback Mountain after Jack died, took me beyond my own experiences in the past, and lifted me up to a higher plane, perhaps writing this extended ending will lift me even higher.

  Thanks, Kathy, for the kick in the butt to get me to see what I needed. Will you join us (aintfoolin and me) when it gets made into a movie.

 

[myprivatejack]

I join to the others brokies demanding that you can write it as soon as you can . It´s so tender and nice that it could be a good relief for all of us, the best way to make Ennis learn from BBM lessons and the best confirmation that these lessons and the message they leave us can be more positive that we can see at first sight...
But tell me:Although I´m far away from you,will you let me join to all of you in the theatre to cry all together until we can´t stand it?.Thanks.

[tpe]

Thanks everyone, especially lancecowboy2007 for the take on Ennis and Jack's mom.

I had a sense all throughout the scenes in LF that both of them were straining to make a connection, mindful of the presence of Mr. Twist. 

If I could enter into this scene, I would probably try to find someway of getting Mr. Twist out of the room.

[myprivatejack]

Yes,I´d do the same in order that Ennis and Mrs. Twist could speak easily,and maybe she could give him Jack´s ashes to carry them to BBM.I really think that she knew everything about him and her son,and showed her very comprehensive and a little accomplice-do you say it so?-with Ennis´feelings.She knew in her inner that both of them were the two persons who had loved Jack the most.And sometimes I´ve wondered,bearing in mind her looks at him,if in his paper bag,he was carrying indeed his lover ashes because Mrs. Twist had put them inside without her husband´s knowledge...

[dirtbiker]

Thanks everyone, especially lancecowboy2007 for the take on Ennis and Jack's mom.

I had a sense all throughout the scenes in LF that both of them were straining to make a connection, mindful of the presence of Mr. Twist. 

If I could enter into this scene, I would probably try to find someway of getting Mr. Twist out of the room.

It would've also been interesting to watch the dynamics unfold if Mrs. Twist went up to Jack's room, after Ennis had sufficient time by himself up there.   :\'(

[ksxks]

I join to the others brokies demanding that you can write it as soon as you can . It´s so tender and nice that it could be a good relief for all of us, the best way to make Ennis learn from BBM lessons and the best confirmation that these lessons and the message they leave us can be more positive that we can see at first sight...
But tell me:Although I´m far away from you,will you let me join to all of you in the theatre to cry all together until we can´t stand it?.Thanks.

I agree.  This is a beautiful idea.  Now I've not read many "Jack dead" fanfic stories, but I don't think this scenario has been written, and it's so beautiful!  It really, really is.  I think it would be a wonderful experience for you to do it.  And we all want to read it.  It is so full of heart and wisdom and healing...

kathy

[ksxks]

Thanks everyone, especially lancecowboy2007 for the take on Ennis and Jack's mom.

I had a sense all throughout the scenes in LF that both of them were straining to make a connection, mindful of the presence of Mr. Twist. 

If I could enter into this scene, I would probably try to find someway of getting Mr. Twist out of the room.

This was a very important scene to me, too.  I had such strong feelings for Mrs. Twist (and I almost bid on buying her clothes on the ebay auction, but didn't; and almost was going to be her for Halloween, except no one would get it).  But most especially, the moments between her and Ennis were nothing less than electric.  There was so much said between them without words, or with her very few words, and every single moment of their contact with each other.  I just know Ennis when he left had been very moved by his meeting with her, even aside from his finding the shirts.  It would have gone totally differently if Mr. Twist hadn't been there.  And I remember even the first time seeing the movie, being really strongly touched by her saying, you come back and see us...  (Is that what she said?  "see us"?  If she did, I'm sure she didn't mean her and Mr. T.  We could say she meant her and Jack...)

I can cry thinking about this scene right now...

kathy

[lancecowboy]

Yes,I´d do the same in order that Ennis and Mrs. Twist could speak easily,and maybe she could give him Jack´s ashes to carry them to BBM.I really think that she knew everything about him and her son,and showed her very comprehensive and a little accomplice-do you say it so?-with Ennis´feelings.She knew in her inner that both of them were the two persons who had loved Jack the most.And sometimes I´ve wondered,bearing in mind her looks at him,if in his paper bag,he was carrying indeed his lover ashes because Mrs. Twist had put them inside without her husband´s knowledge...

Okay, I guess I have no choice. I will write it, however it comes out in short story format or just a narrative, and put it to you all as my way of expressing my gratitude. I can't promise how soon, or how well this story will be. I am no professional, or even amateur, writer. But, knowing all of you are kind and gentle, I feel comfortable attempting it. Stay tuned...

Meanwhile, I read someone said the short story mentioned Jack's abusive childhood. I can see the old man abusing not only Jack, but also Mrs. Twist. She seemed to be constantly afraid of him, of him exploding in anger. Everything she did was trying to not cause confrontation between Ennis and him. She sent Ennis upstairs to avoid Ennis getting too upset at the old man saying Jack changed his tune. She saw how devastated he was. In a way, what the old man did, set Ennis up for the discovery of the shirt, to go from thinking Jack no longer loved him, to knowing with absolute certainty that Jack loved him for twenty years, since that last day on the mountain, and probably before their first night together. To rise from the depth of despair, to the height of being loved by someone you love, yet, forever out of reach.

It's funny, but I think I have reached phase 2 of PBS. I am running out of tears! I cry, I feel sad, but the tears no long come streaming down. Perhaps welling up a little. Last night, perhaps because I was very tired, but I didn't crying in the movie until the very end.

The scene at the end of the summer in '63, when Ennis walked away, after Jack looked into the mirror watching Ennis walked down the road, and Ennis got sick in the stomach, that always broke me down in tears. Last night, I guess the feeling of loneliness that broke Ennis no longer resonated in me as I have found this safe haven.

The scenes in Lightning Flat still got me, though.

You are so right, myprivatejack, that Mrs. Twist knew that she and Ennis are the two people who loved Jack the most. Thank you for more inspiration to my extended ending. I will be sure to add this to it somehow.

I don't think she would dare to defy the old man by sneaking Jack's ashes into the shirt. Even if she had been able to do it, she couldn't psychologically. However, once Ennis become a part of the family, she will find a way for Jack's ashes to be moved to Brokeback. Of that, I have no doubt. As you said, she loved Jack, probably as much as Ennis did.

Thanks for the insight.