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Re: Would you change the sex scenes and, if so, how...?
« Reply #810 on: Sep 18, 2009, 12:59 PM »
There's a great paradox in BBM sex-scenes. They are undoubtedly perfect. Because of that  - we want more of those sex scenes, we need more of that perfection... BUT... if there was more, would it be perfect?  :-\\ :-\\ :-\\

Yet, I'd take that risk!  :P
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Re: Would you change the sex scenes and, if so, how...?
« Reply #811 on: Sep 18, 2009, 01:03 PM »
Quote from: tpe on Sep 18, 2009, 06:44 AM
Although scenes like the SNIT, the Reunion Kiss, and the (sexless) Dozy Embrace feel way too short, there is a timeless quality to them -- something that touches us and brands/imprints itself deeply into our psyche.  That is the mark of great Art, IMO.



True, but SNIT should have been just a little longer and I would have loved to see a scene from when they were at Don Wroe's cabin. I think it would have added to the movie. It wouldn't be long, just less than a minute for SNIT, and just maybe two or three minutes at Don Wroe's cabin. Also, the scene where they jump in the river. I would have loved for it to show them laughing and splashing each other in the water, that would be so cute. It would be beautiful to see more Ennis and Jack together, and not just sex/love scenes but also them just spending time together, those tender loving times when they either talked together or shared an amusing moment, or just felt comfort in being so close to each other. I really love that scene from one of their trips when they were riding horses side by side.
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Re: Would you change the sex scenes and, if so, how...?
« Reply #812 on: Sep 18, 2009, 03:02 PM »
Quote from: loreen on Feb 28, 2009, 03:53 AM
I don't think that I will ever be able to understand what in SNIT makes me crazy, but there's something about that scene, that is beyond magical. The awkwardness, shy Ennis, Jack's eyes and lust in him, development of Ennis's surrendering, tender kisses, yearning for love of both of them.... I really don't know. But it is very very special! <^(

I'd like to see a bit more though... ::)

I also think that no other love scene would ever come even close to this one regarding the effect that it had on me!  :i ... and the surprisingly long time that the effect lasts... (t) (t) (t)

Nothing to add to that ... it's exactly how I feel about that scene ^f^
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Re: Would you change the sex scenes and, if so, how...?
« Reply #813 on: Sep 18, 2009, 03:31 PM »
Quote from: Athena on Sep 18, 2009, 01:03 PM
True, but SNIT should have been just a little longer and I would have loved to see a scene from when they were at Don Wroe's cabin. I think it would have added to the movie. It wouldn't be long, just less than a minute for SNIT, and just maybe two or three minutes at Don Wroe's cabin. Also, the scene where they jump in the river. I would have loved for it to show them laughing and splashing each other in the water, that would be so cute. It would be beautiful to see more Ennis and Jack together, and not just sex/love scenes but also them just spending time together, those tender loving times when they either talked together or shared an amusing moment, or just felt comfort in being so close to each other. I really love that scene from one of their trips when they were riding horses side by side.

Although more of the tender/casual loving moments might defer from the impact of the black hole of an ending to the movie, I would so very much love to see them, lengthened, and a little more detailed. Don Roe's cabin would have been really nice. It's hard to not feel cheated by being given so few scenes like this. When it comes to SNIT, I personally could watch for hours straight. That plucks more of my heart strings than just about any scene I've seen in any movie.  <^(
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Re: Would you change the sex scenes and, if so, how...?
« Reply #814 on: Sep 18, 2009, 03:39 PM »
Quote from: orangetruck on Sep 18, 2009, 03:31 PM
Although more of the tender/casual loving moments might defer from the impact of the black hole of an ending to the movie, I would so very much love to see them, lengthened, and a little more detailed. Don Roe's cabin would have been really nice. It's hard to not feel cheated by being given so few scenes like this. When it comes to SNIT, I personally could watch for hours straight. That plucks more of my heart strings than just about any scene I've seen in any movie.  <^(

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I thought that I was going to faint when I saw it for the first time!  (t)

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Re: Would you change the sex scenes and, if so, how...?
« Reply #815 on: Sep 18, 2009, 03:43 PM »
Quote from: loreen on Sep 18, 2009, 03:39 PM
O0

I thought that I was going to faint when I saw it for the first time!  (t)



Loreen, me too. My heart felt like it was in the pocket of my shirt (if I had a shirt with a pocket) just about ready to flop out like a fish onto the pavement! It put me back into a situation I had very similar with someone. The whole outside world could have fallen completely away from the screen when I watched. It also stirred up leftover passion I would have loved to be demonstrating just how that scene was, right then and there.  (t)

I was blown away. Had blood flowin to organs I don't even know existed for cryin' out loud.  {b}  ^f^
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Re: Would you change the sex scenes and, if so, how...?
« Reply #816 on: Sep 18, 2009, 04:02 PM »
Quote from: orangetruck on Sep 18, 2009, 03:43 PM
Loreen, me too. My heart felt like it was in the pocket of my shirt (if I had a shirt with a pocket) just about ready to flop out like a fish onto the pavement! It put me back into a situation I had very similar with somejavascript:void(0);one. The whole outside world could have fallen completely away from the screen when I watched. It also stirred up leftover passion I would have loved to be demonstrating just how that scene was, right then and there.  (t)

I was blown away. Had blood flowin to organs I don't even know existed for cryin' out loud.  {b}  ^f^

 ;D ;D ;D

The funny thing is that I never had such a crazy and passionate experience, but SNIT hit me so powerful that I couldn't believe it! I also felt some parts in myself that I never knew existed before... not necessarily the organs... maybe some fine tissues, or nerve endings or some strange fluids in me...  :i :i :i

Ang Lee and the boys performed a true miracle there!  (:* (:* (:*

Nothing will ever surpass it!  (t)
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Re: Would you change the sex scenes and, if so, how...?
« Reply #817 on: Sep 18, 2009, 04:06 PM »
Quote from: loreen on Sep 18, 2009, 04:02 PM
;D ;D ;D

The funny thing is that I never had such a crazy and passionate experience, but SNIT hit me so powerful that I couldn't believe it! I also felt some parts in myself that I never knew existed before... not necessarily the organs... maybe some fine tissues, or nerve endings or some strange fluids in me...  :i :i :i

Ang Lee and the boys performed a true miracle there!  (:* (:* (:*

Nothing will ever surpass it!  (t)

I totally hear you. :)

Let's not get me started on wanting the deleted scenes/footage from SNIT  :*(  $)
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Re: Would you change the sex scenes and, if so, how...?
« Reply #818 on: Sep 18, 2009, 04:15 PM »
Quote from: orangetruck on Sep 18, 2009, 04:06 PM
I totally hear you. :)

Let's not get me started on wanting the deleted scenes/footage from SNIT  :*(  $)

Oh, that would be the day... to see that beauty... ^-^ ^-^ ^-^

But I just  :-X :-X :-X

 #) #)  ;D
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Re: Would you change the sex scenes and, if so, how...?
« Reply #819 on: Sep 19, 2009, 11:49 AM »
Quote from: loreen on Sep 18, 2009, 12:59 PM
There's a great paradox in BBM sex-scenes. They are undoubtedly perfect. Because of that  - we want more of those sex scenes, we need more of that perfection... BUT... if there was more, would it be perfect?  :-\\ :-\\ :-\\

Yet, I'd take that risk!  :P

This is true not only in BBM sex-scenes,but in everything we love; we want more of them because of their beauty,because in their short length they have made us feel a great deal of sensations.I had said that this is ART in capital letters,and doubtless BBM is ARTand its scenes like SNIT are kind of culmination of this ART.But,perfect or not,of course,we'd take the risk of being overwhelmed for minutes and minutes more of this scene ¡  :P :d)
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Re: Would you change the sex scenes and, if so, how...?
« Reply #820 on: Sep 21, 2009, 07:39 AM »
Quote from: myprivatejack on Sep 18, 2009, 11:24 AM
Yes,I think that Art with capital letters,the great Art you mention,is this one that makes us feel a great deal of sensations in few time,among other things...That one that gets to become one of our best memories in spite of its short lenght.And doubtless,these BBM scenes join these two conditions.However,I think that they're short on purpose,to remark how short is happinness time,how fast their time of freedom and love in BBM passed.

I think I have mentioned it before (and it doesn't suffer if I repeat it): that it is the "economy" exhibited in the sex/love scenes that really drill down into each of us.  There is so much that is suggested that we can't help but follow the lead of these suggestions...

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Re: Would you change the sex scenes and, if so, how...?
« Reply #821 on: Sep 21, 2009, 07:41 AM »
Quote from: loreen on Sep 18, 2009, 12:59 PM
There's a great paradox in BBM sex-scenes. They are undoubtedly perfect. Because of that  - we want more of those sex scenes, we need more of that perfection... BUT... if there was more, would it be perfect?  :-\\ :-\\ :-\\

Yet, I'd take that risk!  :P

Very good point!  As for myself, I don't know...  I would certainly WANT some more, but am not so sure if more would lead to indigestion!  :)

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Re: Would you change the sex scenes and, if so, how...?
« Reply #822 on: Sep 21, 2009, 07:42 AM »
Quote from: Athena on Sep 18, 2009, 01:03 PM
True, but SNIT should have been just a little longer and I would have loved to see a scene from when they were at Don Wroe's cabin. I think it would have added to the movie. It wouldn't be long, just less than a minute for SNIT, and just maybe two or three minutes at Don Wroe's cabin. Also, the scene where they jump in the river. I would have loved for it to show them laughing and splashing each other in the water, that would be so cute. It would be beautiful to see more Ennis and Jack together, and not just sex/love scenes but also them just spending time together, those tender loving times when they either talked together or shared an amusing moment, or just felt comfort in being so close to each other. I really love that scene from one of their trips when they were riding horses side by side.

 :P

Well, a part of me certainly won't object to this -- arguments of economy aside...   ;D

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Re: Would you change the sex scenes and, if so, how...?
« Reply #823 on: Sep 21, 2009, 08:13 AM »
I am sure that the careful (almost stingy) dosage of the intimate scenes between the boys is one of the biggest reasons why we are always yearning for them, always crazy for them, and always hungry of their love!  $)

Never enough Ennis and Jack, never enough!  :m} :m} :m}
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Re: Would you change the sex scenes and, if so, how...?
« Reply #824 on: Sep 21, 2009, 10:50 AM »
Quote from: tpe on Sep 21, 2009, 07:41 AM
Very good point!  As for myself, I don't know...  I would certainly WANT some more, but am not so sure if more would lead to indigestion!  :)

Do you think so?  ??? Well,this is not like eating beans;I mean,we wouldn't take the risk of shouting "No more beans ¡"...or "No more love scenes"¡ I think not... >:D
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Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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Re: Would you change the sex scenes and, if so, how...?
« Reply #825 on: Sep 21, 2009, 10:51 AM »
Quote from: loreen on Sep 21, 2009, 08:13 AM
I am sure that the careful (almost stingy) dosage of the intimate scenes between the boys is one of the biggest reasons why we are always yearning for them, always crazy for them, and always hungry of their love!  $)

Never enough Ennis and Jack, never enough!  :m} :m} :m}

And also can be one of the reasons we remember them more easily and often...You're right; Never enough Ennis and Jack,never enough ¡  :h}
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Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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Re: Would you change the sex scenes and, if so, how...?
« Reply #826 on: Sep 21, 2009, 10:51 AM »
Quote from: myprivatejack on Sep 21, 2009, 10:50 AM
Do you think so?  ??? Well,this is not like eating beans;I mean,we wouldn't take the risk of shouting "No more beans ¡"...or "No more love scenes"¡ I think not... >:D

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Re: Would you change the sex scenes and, if so, how...?
« Reply #827 on: Sep 21, 2009, 10:54 AM »
Quote from: loreen on Sep 21, 2009, 10:51 AM
:8 :8 :8

 O0

And is it not true?...By the way and  *o)  Hello,Loreen ¡  :^^)
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Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
("If I asked")
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Re: Would you change the sex scenes and, if so, how...?
« Reply #828 on: Sep 21, 2009, 10:55 AM »
Quote from: myprivatejack on Sep 21, 2009, 10:54 AM
And is it not true?...By the way and  *o)  Hello,Loreen ¡  :^^)

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Re: Would you change the sex scenes and, if so, how...?
« Reply #829 on: Sep 22, 2009, 07:05 AM »
Quote from: loreen on Sep 21, 2009, 08:13 AM
I am sure that the careful (almost stingy) dosage of the intimate scenes between the boys is one of the biggest reasons why we are always yearning for them, always crazy for them, and always hungry of their love!  $)

Never enough Ennis and Jack, never enough!  :m} :m} :m}

I agree.  It was certainly more effective than just overloading us with sensual scenes...
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« Reply #830 on: Sep 22, 2009, 07:06 AM »
Quote from: myprivatejack on Sep 21, 2009, 10:50 AM
Do you think so?  ??? Well,this is not like eating beans;I mean,we wouldn't take the risk of shouting "No more beans ¡"...or "No more love scenes"¡ I think not... >:D

 ;D  Well, I think that by not overloading us with such scenes certainly leaves a lot of room for our imaginations to run wild.   :P   #)
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« Reply #831 on: Sep 22, 2009, 07:59 AM »
Quote from: tpe on Sep 22, 2009, 07:05 AM
I agree.  It was certainly more effective than just overloading us with sensual scenes...

I'd like to be overloaded with their sensual scenes!!!! :P :P :P

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Re: Would you change the sex scenes and, if so, how...?
« Reply #832 on: Sep 22, 2009, 11:14 AM »
Quote from: tpe on Sep 22, 2009, 07:06 AM
;D  Well, I think that by not overloading us with such scenes certainly leaves a lot of room for our imaginations to run wild.   :P   #)

Yes,maybe this is also another of the reasons why we feel more attached to them...even if I repeat I'd erase the "No more..." from my dictionary in this case¡  #)
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Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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Re: Would you change the sex scenes and, if so, how...?
« Reply #833 on: Sep 22, 2009, 11:15 AM »
Quote from: loreen on Sep 22, 2009, 07:59 AM
I'd like to be overloaded with their sensual scenes!!!! :P :P :P

 ::)

Loreen Twist ?...Loreen Nasty ¡  (^)  :8
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Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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Re: Would you change the sex scenes and, if so, how...?
« Reply #834 on: Sep 22, 2009, 12:20 PM »
Quote from: myprivatejack on Sep 22, 2009, 11:15 AM
Loreen Twist ?...Loreen Nasty ¡  (^)  :8

Me??  :*(

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Re: Would you change the sex scenes and, if so, how...?
« Reply #835 on: Sep 23, 2009, 04:33 AM »
The sex scenes between Alma and Ennis were much more explicit but well, no where  near as  provocative as the goings on  between Jack and Ennis.  I imagine sex got much more spicier for them  as the years went on :d). It's gotta be that black cowboy hat... I can see Jack wearing that...only that....  Jack Nasty? Jack Naughty, maybe so.  So what? Just sayin ,Jack seems like the kind of guy who'd make sex fun.  :d:

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« Reply #836 on: Sep 23, 2009, 06:56 AM »
Quote from: loreen on Sep 22, 2009, 07:59 AM
I'd like to be overloaded with their sensual scenes!!!! :P :P :P

 ::)

 ;D  You wicked girl!  *SPANK!*   #)

Well, just for the visual pleasure of it all...  ;)

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Re: Would you change the sex scenes and, if so, how...?
« Reply #837 on: Sep 23, 2009, 06:57 AM »
Quote from: myprivatejack on Sep 22, 2009, 11:14 AM
Yes,maybe this is also another of the reasons why we feel more attached to them...even if I repeat I'd erase the "No more..." from my dictionary in this case¡  #)

I think in most cases, imagination is less restricted than any form of actual physical representation...
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« Reply #838 on: Sep 23, 2009, 06:59 AM »
Quote from: aintfoolin on Sep 23, 2009, 04:33 AM
The sex scenes between Alma and Ennis were much more explicit but well, no where  near as  provocative as the goings on  between Jack and Ennis.  I imagine sex got much more spicier for them  as the years went on :d). It's gotta be that black cowboy hat... I can see Jack wearing that...only that....  Jack Nasty? Jack Naughty, maybe so.  So what? Just sayin ,Jack seems like the kind of guy who'd make sex fun.  :d:

OMG.  The image of just the black cowboy hat is most intriguing. 

And yes, I sort of envision Jack as less inhibited than Ennis.  He would have probably led the way in the games of love.
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Re: Would you change the sex scenes and, if so, how...?
« Reply #839 on: Sep 23, 2009, 11:19 AM »
Quote from: tpe on Sep 23, 2009, 06:59 AM
OMG.  The image of just the black cowboy hat is most intriguing. 

And yes, I sort of envision Jack as less inhibited than Ennis.  He would have probably led the way in the games of love.

 (t) Jack wearing ONLY his black cowboy hat ¡...Do you want me to faint,at this hour of the afternoon?... :d) And yes,Jack had surely more experience and was rather less inhibited than Ennis.And surely much more imaginative in creating news ways of pleasure,why not?...Oh,better I shut up... :-X
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Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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