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Re: The reunion Embrace
« Reply #120 on: Jun 15, 2006, 08:02 PM »
Thanks for posting this screencap, christie.  Looking at it again, I'm struck by the parallels between it and SNIT in terms of eyes open/eyes shut, Jack makes a move/Ennis makes a move.  In SNIT, Ennis goes to Jack first--but Jack touches his arm, looks him in the eye, lets him know it's going to be OK, before Ennis is able to relax with him.  Here, Jack has come to visit and both are eager for the initial embrace--but of course it's Ennis who first shoves Jack into the wall and both of them alternately devour one another with their eyes (no shyness in looking this time!) and close their eyes in relief to finally be together.  I find Ennis's tightly shut eyes particularly touching. 
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« Reply #121 on: Jun 16, 2006, 01:09 AM »
I know we've analyzed this scene by the millisecond...but besides every single other moment there is to love about it...there is, at the very beginning of the hug, the jumping into each other's arms, before Jack's "sonofabitch," Ennis lets out this big breathless grunt-groan-ooommpphh sound.  Marvelous.

I saw/heard this in the trailer just now, on another thread.  But after reading this reunion thread, I have to go watch this again and again...

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« Reply #122 on: Jun 16, 2006, 04:45 AM »
I love the shot from above of Jack getting ut of his pickup - his destiny and Ennis's there before them.

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Re: The reunion Embrace
« Reply #123 on: Jun 16, 2006, 07:21 AM »
I love the way Ennis' eyes are shut tight, hardly believing he's got Jack in his arms once again.  Probably scared to open them again in case its all a dream.
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« Reply #124 on: Jun 16, 2006, 07:32 AM »
I love the way Ennis' eyes are shut tight, hardly believing he's got Jack in his arms once again.  Probably scared to open them again in case its all a dream.

Beautiful. 

 

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« Reply #125 on: Jun 16, 2006, 07:49 AM »
Adding to all the wonderful observations above, I love the way Ennis skips a stair or two hurrying down the steps to grab Jack.  Ennis, after all, had been waiting on pins and needles all day for Jack to show up, not sure if he would.  When Jack shows up, Ennis just can't contain his emotions.  He runs into the arms of his Li'l Darlin'.  Sigh.   <^(

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« Reply #126 on: Jun 16, 2006, 07:54 AM »
Adding to all the wonderful observations above, I love the way Ennis skips a stair or two hurrying down the steps to grab Jack.  Ennis, after all, had been waiting on pins and needles all day for Jack to show up, not sure if he would.  When Jack shows up, Ennis just can't contain his emotions.  He runs into the arms of his Li'l Darlin'.  Sigh.   <^(

The screenplay actually specifies that he skips a step while going down.  heath did this in such a beautiful and spontaneous manner.  He skipped the LAST few steps, as if the final leg was too much for him to not bridge.

I love Jake's smile of pleasure as he see's Ennis for the first time in 4 years.  And the look of utter surprise in his face when he gets thrown against th wall.  It gets to me every time...


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Re: The reunion Embrace
« Reply #127 on: Jun 16, 2006, 07:59 AM »
Adding to all the wonderful observations above, I love the way Ennis skips a stair or two hurrying down the steps to grab Jack.  Ennis, after all, had been waiting on pins and needles all day for Jack to show up, not sure if he would.  When Jack shows up, Ennis just can't contain his emotions.  He runs into the arms of his Li'l Darlin'.  Sigh.   <^(

He's like a kid who's just woken up on Christmas morning,isn't he?(insert joke about "unwrapping his present" here ;) ;D). The way he rushes out of the door like the house is on fire, without so much as a glance at Alma, let alone a word to tell her that Jack's here at last,the second he sees Jack, everything else ceases to exist.
There was some open space between what he knew and what he tried to believe, but nothing could be done about it, and if you can't fix it you've got to stand it.

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« Reply #128 on: Jun 16, 2006, 09:01 AM »
I echo all your comments here! This scene is so brilliantly acted, down to perfection, and all those little details that you all mentioned is what makes it so real.
I was just thinking - as far as I understood from interviews, Ang didn't the boys much instruction during the shooting, he talked to them previous to the shooting (the pre-production part) but then he pretty much left it up to them. In the Oprah interview Jake described how they approached this scene and how they talked about it ("Heath, you're gonna grab me, and then you're gonna throw me onto the wall, and then I'm gonna throw you onto the wall...") so if I get this right, they not only acted their parts here, they totally choreographed that scene! All those little details - the way they shut their eyes, how Jack holds on to Ennis's shirt like he can't let go and keep going after his lips, the head nuzzle - it must've been their own ideas, no directions from Ang... these guys are amazing!
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« Reply #129 on: Jun 16, 2006, 09:15 AM »
All those little details - the way they shut their eyes, how Jack holds on to Ennis's shirt like he can't let go and keep going after his lips, the head nuzzle - it must've been their own ideas, no directions from Ang... these guys are amazing!

I love the closing sequence of that scene.  It is so intense.   You really can't fault them in any way.  There is no doubt in my mind that they deserved the MTV award for Best Kiss.  All the other competitors had a fake, look-to-be-torrid feeling about them (with all the tiresome tongue-play and all that).  The reunion kiss is simply faultless.  What we see is true yearning: that is the true originator of the passion in that kiss.

 

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Re: The reunion Embrace
« Reply #130 on: Jun 16, 2006, 09:46 AM »
All those little details - the way they shut their eyes, how Jack holds on to Ennis's shirt like he can't let go and keep going after his lips, the head nuzzle - it must've been their own ideas, no directions from Ang... these guys are amazing!

I love the closing sequence of that scene.  It is so intense.   You really can't fault them in any way.  There is no doubt in my mind that they deserved the MTV award for Best Kiss.  All the other competitors had a fake, look-to-be-torrid feeling about them (with all the tiresome tongue-play and all that).  The reunion kiss is simply faultless.  What we see is true yearning: that is the true originator of the passion in that kiss.

 
It was beautiful work on both their parts, wasn't it?  Letting the emotion drive the actions, rather than having the actions merely mimic the emotions, which is the sense I get from the majority of love scenes including the other candidates for Best Kiss.

For most love scenes it feels like the participants are posing for the camera; they're aware of it's presence.  During this reunion embrace between Jack and Ennis they are as unaware of our witness to their private moment as they were of Alma.  We are voyeurs to their passion, making the moment painfully intimate.

...there is, at the very beginning of the hug, the jumping into each other's arms, before Jack's "sonofabitch," Ennis lets out this big breathless grunt-groan-ooommpphh sound.  Marvelous.

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kathy, I love that wordless expressing of four years yearning! 
And ... sadly ... I compare it to another small, involuntary grunt of air ... this one of pain, when Ennis first reads that dreaded postcard returned stamped "deceased". 

These two physical articulations for emotions that can't be articulated with words put parenthesis to their whole affair for me ... beginning and end.   :\'(
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« Reply #131 on: Jun 16, 2006, 09:47 AM »
It's the way the world goes away for them, even Ennis, for a few minutes - all that exists is the physical presence of the other, and then the significance of their being there together and the danger lurking just out of sight - it's such an intense scene.

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« Reply #132 on: Jun 16, 2006, 09:51 AM »
It was beautiful work on both their parts, wasn't it?  Letting the emotion drive the actions, rather than having the actions merely mimic the emotions, which is the sense I get from the majority of love scenes including the other candidates for Best Kiss.

For most love scenes it feels like the participants are posing for the camera; they're aware of it's presence.  During this reunion embrace between Jack and Ennis they are as unaware of our witness to their private moment as they were of Alma.  We are voyeurs to their passion, making the moment painfully intimate.

As you said to kathy, it is powerful wordless expression.  We are voyeurs to their passion, making the moment painfully intimate.  Indeed, we are.  And we are prisoners of their renewed love.




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Re: The reunion Embrace
« Reply #133 on: Jun 16, 2006, 11:38 AM »
All I remember when I saw this scene for the first time,is,that I stoped breathing,
from the moment they lips touch, until Alma appeared at the door,I was so astonished :-X

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« Reply #134 on: Jun 16, 2006, 11:49 AM »
All I remember when I saw this scene for the first time,is,that I stooped breathing,
from the moment they lips touch, until Alma appeared at the door,I was so astonished :-X

 :^^) :^^)


In all my viewings at the movie theatres, the reunion kiss (the part before Alma spies both of them) is that part of the movie when you can hear a pin drop.  It is wonderful to see everyone fall silent during this scene.

No giggles.  No guffaws.  Silence. 


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« Reply #135 on: Jun 16, 2006, 01:00 PM »
All I remember when I saw this scene for the first time,is,that I stooped breathing,
from the moment they lips touch, until Alma appeared at the door,I was so astonished :-X

 :^^) :^^)


In all my viewings at the movie theatres, the reunion kiss (the part before Alma spies both of them) is that part of the movie when you can hear a pin drop.  It is wonderful to see everyone fall silent during this scene.

No giggles.  No guffaws.  Silence. 



I' actually heard a couple of "oh sh*ts" when Alma opens the door and a couple of nervous giggles from people in the theater.  Me, I about fell out of my chair the first time I saw it.  Couldn't speak if I would have wanted to.  I'm bad, but I wanted them to cut from Alma real quick right back to the action.    >:D

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« Reply #136 on: Jun 16, 2006, 01:06 PM »
All I remember when I saw this scene for the first time,is,that I stooped breathing,
from the moment they lips touch, until Alma appeared at the door,I was so astonished :-X

 :^^) :^^)


In all my viewings at the movie theatres, the reunion kiss (the part before Alma spies both of them) is that part of the movie when you can hear a pin drop.  It is wonderful to see everyone fall silent during this scene.

No giggles.  No guffaws.  Silence. 



I' actually heard a couple of "oh sh*ts" when Alma opens the door and a couple of nervous giggles from people in the theater.  Me, I about fell out of my chair the first time I saw it.  Couldn't speak if I would have wanted to.  I'm bad, but I wanted them to cut from Alma real quick right back to the action.    >:D
I know how you feel! Knowing the reunion was on the cards i was that relieved when it finally happened I wanted Alma to take a back seat for a while, and let me feast my eyes on the boys getting it together again  :)

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Re: The reunion Embrace
« Reply #137 on: Jun 16, 2006, 01:12 PM »
I' actually heard a couple of "oh sh*ts" when Alma opens the door and a couple of nervous giggles from people in the theater.  Me, I about fell out of my chair the first time I saw it.  Couldn't speak if I would have wanted to.  I'm bad, but I wanted them to cut from Alma real quick right back to the action.    >:D

When I first saw this scene I felt my mouth drop to the floor when Alma came to the door.  It was as if I was as stunned as she was.  Then it was back to Jack & Ennis again. After my first viewing, I played this scene over and over in my mind.  I can't ever remember feeling such a range of emotions from one scene. Anticipation, joy, passion, shock, and composure...all in one scene.  At that point I knew I was viewing one helluva film.
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« Reply #138 on: Jun 16, 2006, 02:13 PM »
It's the way the world goes away for them, even Ennis, for a few minutes - all that exists is the physical presence of the other, and then the significance of their being there together and the danger lurking just out of sight - it's such an intense scene.

I absolutely love this way of putting it: the world *does* go away, and nothing else matters.  If only it could have stayed that way. . . .

Maybe slightly OT, but I was struck by this when watching yesterday: does Alma seem more dressed up than usual in this scene?  I noticed that she's wearing a dress and seems to have lipstick on as well.  I thought maybe this was a real treat for her, to have a visitor, so she dresses up in anticipation of maybe having a little fun, at least a little break in routine, and instead her world is turned upside down.  It's an interesting comparison with Ennis, who has also clearly taken some care with his appearance (short story: "wearing his best shirt, white with wide black stripes"), but who does get to have a wonderful, unbelievable, magical, but ultimately painful break in *his* routine.
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« Reply #139 on: Jun 16, 2006, 02:30 PM »
It's the way the world goes away for them, even Ennis, for a few minutes - all that exists is the physical presence of the other, and then the significance of their being there together and the danger lurking just out of sight - it's such an intense scene.

I absolutely love this way of putting it: the world *does* go away, and nothing else matters.  If only it could have stayed that way. . . .

Maybe slightly OT, but I was struck by this when watching yesterday: does Alma seem more dressed up than usual in this scene?  I noticed that she's wearing a dress and seems to have lipstick on as well.  I thought maybe this was a real treat for her, to have a visitor, so she dresses up in anticipation of maybe having a little fun, at least a little break in routine, and instead her world is turned upside down.  It's an interesting comparison with Ennis, who has also clearly taken some care with his appearance (short story: "wearing his best shirt, white with wide black stripes"), but who does get to have a wonderful, unbelievable, magical, but ultimately painful break in *his* routine.

Yes, I noticed Alma was dressed up, too.  She looked so excited.  She even mentions taking Jack to the Knife & Fork.  I am betting she and Ennis didn't go out much, so I bet she was thinking, what a treat this will be, hanging out with one of Ennis' old buddies.  Little did she know that Ennis had no plans whatsoever that involved her.  He didn't even give her a second glance after he saw Jack through the window.  I know I'm supposed to feel sorry for her (crap, I'm a married woman with two small kids) and I do, but I just wanted her out of the way so Jack and Ennis could get to that motel.

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« Reply #140 on: Jun 16, 2006, 03:15 PM »
It's the way the world goes away for them, even Ennis, for a few minutes - all that exists is the physical presence of the other, and then the significance of their being there together and the danger lurking just out of sight - it's such an intense scene.

I absolutely love this way of putting it: the world *does* go away, and nothing else matters.  If only it could have stayed that way. . . .

Maybe slightly OT, but I was struck by this when watching yesterday: does Alma seem more dressed up than usual in this scene?  I noticed that she's wearing a dress and seems to have lipstick on as well.  I thought maybe this was a real treat for her, to have a visitor, so she dresses up in anticipation of maybe having a little fun, at least a little break in routine, and instead her world is turned upside down.  It's an interesting comparison with Ennis, who has also clearly taken some care with his appearance (short story: "wearing his best shirt, white with wide black stripes"), but who does get to have a wonderful, unbelievable, magical, but ultimately painful break in *his* routine.

Yes, I noticed Alma was dressed up, too.  She looked so excited.  She even mentions taking Jack to the Knife & Fork.  I am betting she and Ennis didn't go out much, so I bet she was thinking, what a treat this will be, hanging out with one of Ennis' old buddies.  Little did she know that Ennis had no plans whatsoever that involved her.  He didn't even give her a second glance after he saw Jack through the window.  I know I'm supposed to feel sorry for her (crap, I'm a married woman with two small kids) and I do, but I just wanted her out of the way so Jack and Ennis could get to that motel.

Dont worry, stacp, I'm a married woman with two small kids too, and I can tell you, as much as it was sad for Alma to see what she saw, I was willing the camera to get back to Ennis and Jack as fast as possible.  Of course it was heartbreaking for her, but I think the majority of the audience would have been willing Ennis and Jack to embrace and kiss and be together, because we know what's being going on in Ennis' head for the past 4 years, and she didnt. 

You cant deny how well Michelle Williams played that scene, especially when they come back up the stairs to meet her.  When you see her pretending to look through her bag, to look like she's doing something, you hear a sound come out of her, like a sharp intake of breath, before she turns round to face them.  That sound was like her way of getting ready to confront the the person she has just seen kissing her husband.....and to confront the person she thought she knew...her husband.  I read in an interview with Michelle about that scene, saying she was pretending to look for her purse in her bag, because it was something normal, something solid and practical to deal with, in light of the unreal situation that was unfolding around her.

Sorry, I know I shouldnt have started that about Alma, so lets get back to Ennis and Jack......I remember watching it for the first time and first smiling when Ennis says "Jack F***cking Twist", smiling when he jumps down the stairs and hugs Jack, and then when he pushes him up against the wall and kisses him like his life depended on it.....well, I think I did what you did hpv, and stopped breathing, because I genuinely could not believe what I was seeing.  I was hoping that they were going to kiss, of course, but nothing like this.  This blew me away.

Totally and utterly powerful and passionate stuff that you would never have imagined could be possible.
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« Reply #141 on: Jun 16, 2006, 03:54 PM »
And utterly beautiful posts.  Thanks all.


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« Reply #142 on: Jun 16, 2006, 04:09 PM »
Dont worry, stacp, I'm a married woman with two small kids too, and I can tell you, as much as it was sad for Alma to see what she saw, I was willing the camera to get back to Ennis and Jack as fast as possible.  Of course it was heartbreaking for her, but I think the majority of the audience would have been willing Ennis and Jack to embrace and kiss and be together, because we know what's being going on in Ennis' head for the past 4 years, and she didnt. 

You cant deny how well Michelle Williams played that scene, especially when they come back up the stairs to meet her.  When you see her pretending to look through her bag, to look like she's doing something, you hear a sound come out of her, like a sharp intake of breath, before she turns round to face them.  That sound was like her way of getting ready to confront the the person she has just seen kissing her husband.....and to confront the person she thought she knew...her husband.  I read in an interview with Michelle about that scene, saying she was pretending to look for her purse in her bag, because it was something normal, something solid and practical to deal with, in light of the unreal situation that was unfolding around her.

Sorry, I know I shouldnt have started that about Alma, so lets get back to Ennis and Jack......I remember watching it for the first time and first smiling when Ennis says "Jack F***cking Twist", smiling when he jumps down the stairs and hugs Jack, and then when he pushes him up against the wall and kisses him like his life depended on it.....well, I think I did what you did hpv, and stopped breathing, because I genuinely could not believe what I was seeing.  I was hoping that they were going to kiss, of course, but nothing like this.  This blew me away.

Totally and utterly powerful and passionate stuff that you would never have imagined could be possible.

christie, I think for me too, the word is breathless--my breath caught in my throat the first time, as I had absolutely no idea what was going to happen, and I think I continue to have a similar reaction.  Every time I am filled with joy for them, and caught up in the unbelievable joy of the reunion.  Were two people ever so happy to see each other??
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« Reply #143 on: Jun 16, 2006, 04:11 PM »
I think when Ennis saw Jack get out of that truck, and they embraced....  that was the moment he realized he loved Jack Twist.
He couldn't articulate it or understand it.....  but I think he knew it.

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« Reply #144 on: Jun 16, 2006, 04:58 PM »
Adding to all the wonderful observations above, I love the way Ennis skips a stair or two hurrying down the steps to grab Jack.  Ennis, after all, had been waiting on pins and needles all day for Jack to show up, not sure if he would.  When Jack shows up, Ennis just can't contain his emotions.  He runs into the arms of his Li'l Darlin'.  Sigh.   <^(

Oh you're making me shed tears of joy.  But, Ennis doesn't just skip a stair or two -- he skips like six stairs!  He practically leaps from the middle landing down to the bottom, with that push off the wall to propel him even faster, and I even love the hard sound of his boots on the stairs as he rushes down to take Jack into his arms.  While meanwhile Jack is rushing up to be hugged like he's never been hugged before...  I'm sorry, I'm just repeating what has been said a thousand times here, but I can't help it I love this so much.  The BEST!!  Not only Best Kiss, but Best Hug, Best Reunion.

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« Reply #145 on: Jun 16, 2006, 05:01 PM »
I echo all your comments here! This scene is so brilliantly acted, down to perfection, and all those little details that you all mentioned is what makes it so real.
I was just thinking - as far as I understood from interviews, Ang didn't the boys much instruction during the shooting, he talked to them previous to the shooting (the pre-production part) but then he pretty much left it up to them. In the Oprah interview Jake described how they approached this scene and how they talked about it ("Heath, you're gonna grab me, and then you're gonna throw me onto the wall, and then I'm gonna throw you onto the wall...") so if I get this right, they not only acted their parts here, they totally choreographed that scene! All those little details - the way they shut their eyes, how Jack holds on to Ennis's shirt like he can't let go and keep going after his lips, the head nuzzle - it must've been their own ideas, no directions from Ang... these guys are amazing!

Oh I so agree.  Knowing that Lee gave them little direction during the actual shooting, when we see these scenes -- the whole movie -- it is amazing how exquisitely they played these parts.  I am humbled before their talent but also their respect for the story they were portraying.

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« Reply #146 on: Jun 16, 2006, 05:24 PM »
All those little details - the way they shut their eyes, how Jack holds on to Ennis's shirt like he can't let go and keep going after his lips, the head nuzzle - it must've been their own ideas, no directions from Ang... these guys are amazing!

I love the closing sequence of that scene.  It is so intense.   You really can't fault them in any way.  There is no doubt in my mind that they deserved the MTV award for Best Kiss.  All the other competitors had a fake, look-to-be-torrid feeling about them (with all the tiresome tongue-play and all that).  The reunion kiss is simply faultless.  What we see is true yearning: that is the true originator of the passion in that kiss.
 

I know, I hate those fake on-screen kisses.  They're "acting" like they're all hot and bothered, but it's just acting.  This was just phenomenal, the genuineness of the passion they were expressing.

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« Reply #147 on: Jun 16, 2006, 05:27 PM »
kathy, I love that wordless expressing of four years yearning! 
And ... sadly ... I compare it to another small, involuntary grunt of air ... this one of pain, when Ennis first reads that dreaded postcard returned stamped "deceased". 

These two physical articulations for emotions that can't be articulated with words put parenthesis to their whole affair for me ... beginning and end.   :\'(


Oh god, I've never caught that!  Ennis's "involuntary grunt of air."  Boy do I have a lot more BBM studying to do...except this one will be devastating.

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Re: The reunion Embrace
« Reply #148 on: Jun 16, 2006, 05:29 PM »

I' actually heard a couple of "oh sh*ts" when Alma opens the door and a couple of nervous giggles from people in the theater.  Me, I about fell out of my chair the first time I saw it.  Couldn't speak if I would have wanted to.  I'm bad, but I wanted them to cut from Alma real quick right back to the action.    >:D

Funny -- me, too.  When I was watching that scene last night, and I saw how long they were staying on Alma, I thought, puleeze, get back outside -- what are they doing out there all these precious seconds??

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Re: The reunion Embrace
« Reply #149 on: Jun 16, 2006, 05:56 PM »
I absolutely love this way of putting it: the world *does* go away, and nothing else matters.  If only it could have stayed that way. . . .

Maybe slightly OT, but I was struck by this when watching yesterday: does Alma seem more dressed up than usual in this scene?  I noticed that she's wearing a dress and seems to have lipstick on as well.  I thought maybe this was a real treat for her, to have a visitor, so she dresses up in anticipation of maybe having a little fun, at least a little break in routine, and instead her world is turned upside down.  It's an interesting comparison with Ennis, who has also clearly taken some care with his appearance (short story: "wearing his best shirt, white with wide black stripes"), but who does get to have a wonderful, unbelievable, magical, but ultimately painful break in *his* routine.

I know, that part makes me really sad, that Alma thought they were going to maybe go out, or at least she would have a visitor for a cup o' coffee...  She was dressed up, I thought, too; and she put her purse on her shoulder for a moment -- what was that about?

kathy
They were respectful of each other's opinions, each glad to have a companion where none had been expected.