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« Reply #120 on: Apr 25, 2006, 02:01 PM »
The screen was not big enough?  ;D
I saw it in teathers, once I noticed it I just could not believe it

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Re: *SPOILER* Your Thoughts after seeing the DVD
« Reply #121 on: Apr 25, 2006, 07:21 PM »
I watched the DVD for the 3rd time today.
(Ennis) is suffused with a sense of pleasure because Jack Twist was in his dream . . . lets a panel of the dream slide forward . . . it might stoke the day, rewarm that old, cold time on the mountain when they owned the world and nothing seemed wrong.

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« Reply #122 on: Apr 26, 2006, 12:50 AM »
I do not agree with some of the things you said butu are entitled to u'r opinion :) And I don't remember seeing anyone spit,...

Esme, Katie was talking about the first night in the tent when Ennis spit into his hand and then put it on himself.

Tell you what...truth is, sometimes I miss you so much I can hardly stand it...

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« Reply #123 on: Apr 26, 2006, 01:51 AM »
I do not agree with some of the things you said butu are entitled to u'r opinion :) And I don't remember seeing anyone spit,...

Esme, Katie was talking about the first night in the tent when Ennis spit into his hand and then put it on himself.



Aaaaah....
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Re: *SPOILER* Your Thoughts after seeing the DVD
« Reply #124 on: Apr 26, 2006, 02:13 AM »

 I never noticed before, the tears on Ennis's face when he looks up after putting the horse  with the little cowboy figure on it  back down on the desk

In Jack's room...
I saw the TEARS also :( and I was very puzzled that  no1 mentioned that before.... and  there are so obvious!!
especially when you know what he is going to find next!!! :-X :-X
It was the first time he teared up imo . 
I felt like something just took my heart and squeezed it!!

 :'( :'( :'(
« Last Edit: Apr 26, 2006, 02:25 AM by hpv »
"What Jack remembered and craved in a way he could neither help nor understand was the time that distant summer on Brokeback when Ennis had come up behind him and pulled him close,the silent embrace satisfying some shared and sexless hunger."
"I miss you so much I can hardly stand it."

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« Reply #125 on: Apr 26, 2006, 10:21 AM »
I do not agree with some of the things you said butu are entitled to u'r opinion :) And I don't remember seeing anyone spit,...

Esme, Katie was talking about the first night in the tent when Ennis spit into his hand and then put it on himself.



Aaaaah....
Ennis spits another time, also...when he is raking Jack over the coals about Mexico, after he says "I mean it!" He turns around and spits..looks like he's spitting the fingernails he was biting when he was telling Jack he couldn't make it in August.  There are so many little things in this movie to discuss...I love it! :)

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Re: *SPOILER* Your Thoughts after seeing the DVD
« Reply #126 on: May 03, 2006, 08:34 PM »
I watched the movie again tonight..and it just  ripped my heart out,  :'( :'( its so tragic , and sad and wonderfull all at once. I felt Ennis and Jack's pain and sorrow along with thier joy and happiness that they felt with each other. It really is a geunine love story. It seems that each time I watch the movie I feel drained after watching it..like numb inside and seeing Ennis saying "Jack I swear..." rips me to piecies..I hope that he finally realizes the love he had and how special it was..each time I see the part before the fight scene and there sleeping cuddling together looking so peaceful and unaware of what is come..and then the next day with the fight and Ennis crumbling to the ground..it just makes this movie so powerful and gut punching and wonderrful all at the same time.

I did notice at the second tent scene jack saying its allright and Ennis saying I am sorry..I am pretty sure I heard that..I did not hear the f*** me in the first tent scene though..all I heard was grunting and all..no words..and I did have the volume all the way turned up too..maybe next time I will put the subtitles on and see if It comes up there

each time I see this movie I appreciate its depth and beauty every time..

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Re: *SPOILER* Your Thoughts after seeing the DVD
« Reply #127 on: May 07, 2006, 10:48 PM »
May 7 - 3rd DVD viewing and still no sign of stopping my tears.

What a great movie! Now I am exhausted.
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Re: *SPOILER* Your Thoughts after seeing the DVD
« Reply #128 on: May 09, 2006, 12:29 AM »
I was hoping for more special features :(
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Re: *SPOILER* Your Thoughts after seeing the DVD
« Reply #129 on: May 09, 2006, 12:31 AM »
I was hoping for more special features :(

You and several million other people.  Well, maybe the next one out will be the biggie.

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Re: *SPOILER* Your Thoughts after seeing the DVD
« Reply #130 on: May 13, 2006, 08:41 PM »
Done my first viewing of BBM on DVD... I just want one thing, to shout as loud as I can :

JACK AND ENNIS, I LOVE YOU!
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Re: *SPOILER* Your Thoughts after seeing the DVD
« Reply #131 on: May 13, 2006, 08:56 PM »
Done my first viewing of BBM on DVD... I just want one thing, to shout as loud as I can :

JACK AND ENNIS, I LOVE YOU!

From accross the pond, I heard you!  ;)
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Re: *SPOILER* Your Thoughts after seeing the DVD
« Reply #132 on: May 14, 2006, 07:39 AM »
Done my first viewing of BBM on DVD... I just want one thing, to shout as loud as I can :

JACK AND ENNIS, I LOVE YOU!

We all do.

I just love the fact that I've got the DVD and can watch the whole thing, or even just a tiny little bit, every time I need to (which is often)
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This award tonight would have humbly validated Heath's quiet determination to be truly accepted by you all here — his peers within an industry he so loved.

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Re: *SPOILER* Your Thoughts after seeing the DVD
« Reply #133 on: May 14, 2006, 03:32 PM »
Done my first viewing of BBM on DVD... I just want one thing, to shout as loud as I can :

JACK AND ENNIS, I LOVE YOU!

Ditto...thay are just as good on the small screen...more..intimate :)
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Re: *SPOILER* Your Thoughts after seeing the DVD
« Reply #134 on: May 17, 2006, 12:02 PM »
JACK AND ENNIS, I LOVE YOU!

Had my 4th DVD viewing yesterday. Jack and Ennis, I love you more after each viewing.

At the end of movie, I always roll the credit and listen to "He is a Friend of Mine" and "The Maker Made" and to let my emotions settled down - but often found me with more tears.

As I was watching the credit roll yesterday, I looked the names and said thank you to each one of them for making this movie possible. What a brilliant moive Brokeback Mountain is.
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Re: *SPOILER* Your Thoughts after seeing the DVD
« Reply #135 on: May 18, 2006, 04:09 PM »
maybe, there will be a director's cut version later - anyone around who knows more?!?

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Re: *SPOILER* Your Thoughts after seeing the DVD
« Reply #136 on: Jul 14, 2006, 03:26 PM »
is anyone here disappointed with the bonus features????
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Re: *SPOILER* Your Thoughts after seeing the DVD
« Reply #137 on: Jul 22, 2006, 05:07 PM »


I wouldnt really say dissapointed, it's just the impact of the movie creates an insatiable need for more of anything Bokeback!!!
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Re: *SPOILER* Your Thoughts after seeing the DVD
« Reply #138 on: Jul 23, 2006, 12:32 AM »
Not buying the dvd because the isn't enough special features...ok I am, but not just yet.......they have 30 copies of it to rent...that's really good....more then Memoirs of a Geisha  :)
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Ennis, weather-eyed, looked west for the heated cumulus that might come up on such a day but the boneless blue was so deep, said Jack, that he might drown looking up.

His shaking hand grazed Ennis's hand, electrical current snapped between them.

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Re: *SPOILER* Your Thoughts after seeing the DVD
« Reply #139 on: Aug 23, 2006, 02:42 PM »
I can honestly say that I have never heard that one, but i will be sure to check it out. It sounds hott though...   <^(

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Re: *SPOILER* Your Thoughts after seeing the DVD
« Reply #140 on: Jan 02, 2007, 02:03 PM »
It's hard to me to catch all the words Ennis says even I have had the DVD. First, because of my bad English, second, the subtitues is...,
Unfortunately, my damn DVD has a scratch so I can't watch the last scene - when Ennis comes to Jack's home ....Can u tell me what will happen next?  :t)
And, if  u don't mind, can u up this part to somewhere for me to download? Thank you very much.... really like this film, but hardly to get all the idea it's about
Sorry about my bad English...
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Re: *SPOILER* Your Thoughts after seeing the DVD
« Reply #141 on: Jan 21, 2007, 11:24 AM »
Wow, Diepcon, if  that's the last segment that you can see on your DVD..you are missing a significant part of the film!
Anyway, in short, he is invited to look up Jack's room , there  he finds on a hanger,his shirt, stained in his own blood, ,tucked in Jack's shirt from the times in Brokeback,then and there he realizes that Jack truly loved him,he embraces the shirts with the hanger with love...almost kissing them..his mother allowes him to take the shirts,but his repellent father doesn't want to spread the ashes on BBM,It ends in Ennis's trailer,his daughter came to tell him she's getting married, and when she leaves,he opens his closet,and we see on the closet door ,the shirts are hanging there but now Ennis's shirt is over Jack's..he straightens the BBM postcard,and buttons Jack's shirt..
He looks at them with tears in his eyes and says,   " Jack,I swear...:
The End..
"What Jack remembered and craved in a way he could neither help nor understand was the time that distant summer on Brokeback when Ennis had come up behind him and pulled him close,the silent embrace satisfying some shared and sexless hunger."
"I miss you so much I can hardly stand it."

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Re: *SPOILER* Your Thoughts after seeing the DVD
« Reply #142 on: Dec 11, 2009, 05:24 AM »
I would like to share  my thoughts after seeng the movie.

First of all, my emotional were like this: "AWWWW..."
 :_( :_( :_( :_( :_( :_( :_( :_( :_( :_(

Then this: were like "NNOOOOO!!!!!"
(t) (t) (t)  (t) (t) (t) (t) (t) (t) (t)

Finally third Stage: were like: "It CAN"T BEEE!!!!!"
 ^*) ^*) ^*) ^*) ^*) ^*) ^*) ^*) ^*) ^*)

To be honestly, I grew up in a strick education family, and this is the first time that I've seen this type of movie which touched the gay-theme subject. I don't see gayness but all I see is 2 souls are in deeply love each other. Wish there was someone who love me like they. I was very touched by Ennis' & Jack's love. Their love is soooooo emotional, heartbreaking, sweet, romantic, tragic, and passion. All I see is just 2 human being in love each other depsite whether they're 2 guys or not. If it's a hetero couple then this movie is just another Titanic film. Seeing the love of Ennis/Jack, they reminded me of couples: Romeo/Juliet and Jack/Rose(Titanic).

I always love happy ending but this movie won't have it. By the time the last scene ended and the credits rolling; still I was staring into the TV black screen. I must admitted the movie was excellent because of the good acting by Heath & Jake, great directing by Ang Lee, and wonderful story and screen-play by Larry&Diana and Annie. Thanks too all of them for creating such a touchy movie like Brokeback Mountain.

And about the gay-theme in the movie. what I'm seeing that they deeply love each other just like any other hetero couples, like us. Why do we stop them? Worse, even kill them? It's no one else business. They didn't harm staright people. All they're doing is what we doing; loving another living soul, loving another human being.

Looking thru the history of movies. Back then, there are movies that addressed the slave African people wanted equal rights. I was like why do we racist to African people? I know I'm not. They're just people, like human who have 2 eyes, 2 hands, 2 feet, and 1 heart right? I've never acted any racist toward anyone in my life, ever. I'm a liberal and open-minded person. I would love be friended to any people whether they're: Jews, Africans, Asians, Homosexuals, or Disabilty people. I don't judge by the cover of the book, that theory I used in people also. What I judge is the good moral character, virtue. As long as they are a good person/character then I would be friended with them.

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Re: *SPOILER* Your Thoughts after seeing the DVD
« Reply #143 on: Dec 15, 2009, 01:13 AM »
I would like to share  my thoughts after seeng the movie.

First of all, my emotional were like this: "AWWWW..."
 :_( :_( :_( :_( :_( :_( :_( :_( :_( :_(

Then this: were like "NNOOOOO!!!!!"
(t) (t) (t)  (t) (t) (t) (t) (t) (t) (t)

Finally third Stage: were like: "It CAN"T BEEE!!!!!"
 ^*) ^*) ^*) ^*) ^*) ^*) ^*) ^*) ^*) ^*)

To be honestly, I grew up in a strick education family, and this is the first time that I've seen this type of movie which touched the gay-theme subject. I don't see gayness but all I see is 2 souls are in deeply love each other. Wish there was someone who love me like they. I was very touched by Ennis' & Jack's love. Their love is soooooo emotional, heartbreaking, sweet, romantic, tragic, and passion. All I see is just 2 human being in love each other depsite whether they're 2 guys or not. If it's a hetero couple then this movie is just another Titanic film. Seeing the love of Ennis/Jack, they reminded me of couples: Romeo/Juliet and Jack/Rose(Titanic).

I always love happy ending but this movie won't have it. By the time the last scene ended and the credits rolling; still I was staring into the TV black screen. I must admitted the movie was excellent because of the good acting by Heath & Jake, great directing by Ang Lee, and wonderful story and screen-play by Larry&Diana and Annie. Thanks too all of them for creating such a touchy movie like Brokeback Mountain.

And about the gay-theme in the movie. what I'm seeing that they deeply love each other just like any other hetero couples, like us. Why do we stop them? Worse, even kill them? It's no one else business. They didn't harm staright people. All they're doing is what we doing; loving another living soul, loving another human being.

Looking thru the history of movies. Back then, there are movies that addressed the slave African people wanted equal rights. I was like why do we racist to African people? I know I'm not. They're just people, like human who have 2 eyes, 2 hands, 2 feet, and 1 heart right? I've never acted any racist toward anyone in my life, ever. I'm a liberal and open-minded person. I would love be friended to any people whether they're: Jews, Africans, Asians, Homosexuals, or Disabilty people. I don't judge by the cover of the book, that theory I used in people also. What I judge is the good moral character, virtue. As long as they are a good person/character then I would be friended with them.

 
I agree with you totally, people should be able to love whoever they want to and this movie stirs so many emotions within us, it touches our hearts and souls. :ghug:

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Re: *SPOILER* Your Thoughts after seeing the DVD
« Reply #144 on: Feb 02, 2011, 05:05 AM »
mods...

please tell me if this is a wrong place for this post..  ^f^

but when i saw this a few days ago i was blown away  (t) .. i went back in my DVD and tried to sort this out, see if it was true... and i saw most of it (some i knew about already, but so many..)

... NOW.. only NOW after having seen the film for more than 25 times...

goofs in BBM.....

how about you all?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0388795/goofs



Crew or equipment visible: When Ennis tells Alma that he and Jack are going fishing, he hands Alma Jr. to her. While in her mother's arms, Junior's pajama top hikes up and you can see her microphone cord.


Continuity: Jack is chopping wood when Aguirre approaches to give news of his sick uncle. Jack places the next log on the chopping block as he turns to speak to Aguirre. After the conversation is over and Jack turns back to chopping, the log is gone and he replaces the log that was never chopped.


Anachronisms: When Cassie dances with Ennis the first time (in the late 1970s), the jukebox is playing Steve Earle's revamped version of "The Devil's Right Hand," which first came out in 1987-8.


Continuity: During Jack's first and second bull rides, his free hand alternates several times from being his left or right hand. Since he's obviously not letting go to switch hands, either some shots are flipped or the sequence is edited from several takes.


Continuity: When Ennis and Alma are playing in the snow after sledding down the mountain, Ennis's hat is covering/not covering his ears between shots.


Anachronisms: When Ennis was driving Alma Jr. home from the bar where Alma and his waitress girlfriend have met, along the path in the background, next to the Dodge Neon, is a RV or trailer car. These had not been introduced yet.


Anachronisms: When Ennis gets into a fight in front of the bar after leaving Alma's house on Thanksgiving, the bar's "Budweiser" neon light is an italic logo from the late 1990s.


Continuity: When Jack is in Mexico, the same boy (in a blue striped shirt) runs behind him twice.


Continuity: When Ennis and Jack are fighting on the hill, the day they leave, and Jack knees Ennis in the nose, he gets up to help him. He puts his hands on Ennis' shoulders, but in the next shot, his right wrist is being used to soak up the blood from Ennis' bloody nose.


Anachronisms: Leading up to the argument that sparks the Del Mar divorce (finalized on 6 November 1975), Ennis is on the couch watching "Einsatz in Manhattan" (1973) on a Saturday night. Kojak didn't air on Saturday nights until its 5th season, 1977-8.


Anachronisms: Ennis gets a postcard from Jack which reads, "Ennis, see you in a couple weeks, fish should be jumping. Jack." The postmark is Childress, Texas, July 1972. A couple of weeks later, Jack is driving a blue Ford truck with a 1976-7 grill.


Continuity: Supermarket scene. An end row of bottles is hit/broken. When the camera moves back, the bottles are again upright and intact.


Anachronisms: The tractor trailer rigs are too modern for the time period. At the beginning of the movie the tractor used in the film wasn't the kind rolling along the highways in the 1960s.


Continuity: The first postcard from Jack has no address. The only clue to his address is the post mark. Yet when Ennis writes back, he addresses his card to RFD 2, Childress, Texas. He would have had no way of knowing Jack's rural route number.


Continuity: Ennis, standing in the river washing a coffee pot with a rag, pauses to look up and spots Jack on horseback in the distance on a mountainside. Ennis then slings the washrag over his right shoulder and starts to exit the river. In the next scene, as he exits the river onto the riverbank, the washrag is gone from his shoulder and back to being held in his right hand.


Continuity: When Jack rides into camp complaining that he is "commutin' four hours a day" he takes off one glove, the one on his left hand, to feel the coffee pot. It then shows him drinking coffee with his left hand and the right hand glove is still on and he is holding the glove from the left hand with his right hand. When Ennis says (the second time) "I wouldn't mind being out there" it shows Jack with the coffee cup still in his left hand but the glove from his right hand is now off.


Anachronisms: When Jack is at the bar, turning around to eye Lureen, just before she approaches him for the first time, soft contact lens are visible in his eyes.


Continuity: At the beginning of the movie where we first see Jack Twist driving up in his truck, the window on the passenger side is up as evidenced by the reflections off the glass. Then as the truck turns into the parking lot, the same window is now down.


Continuity: Towards the end of the movie when Alma Jr. visits her dad in his trailer, he goes to the cupboard to get them a drink and cups. The cupboard door at Ennis' head is seen alternately opened and closed without him touching it.


Crew or equipment visible: When they are being viewed from a far as they play with their shirts off, on the far left there is filming equipment visible within the trees.


Anachronisms: The type of fireworks display in the 4th of July scene was unheard of in the United States during the 1960s. At that time, almost all fireworks used in the U.S. were made in the U.S., and were generally fired one at a time. Chinese-made fireworks did not become prevalent in the United States until after trade relations were opened up with China in 1972. The low-level Chinese-style fireworks shown in the film were not imported into the United States during the 1960s and did not become popular in fireworks displays in the U.S. until the 1990s at the earliest.


Anachronisms: On the mountain in 1963, Jack is looking at the moon and smoking a cigarette with the American Spirit logo printed on it. This company was founded in 1982.


Continuity: Alma Jr., age 4, has blue eyes, at age 19 they are brown.


Anachronisms: During the scene in the supermarket where Alma works in the 1960s, plastic cranberry juice bottles with yellow, plastic twist lids on a shelf are visible behind Ennis' head. These bottles would have been glass until the early 1990's.


Continuity: In the scene when Jack tells Ennis "you have no idea how bad it gets", Jack's gloves switch from his right hand to his left hand.


Continuity: When Aguirre comes to tell Jack about his sick uncle, Jack has the ax in his right hand. When the conversation is over and Aguirre rides away, the ax is in Jack's left hand.


Revealing mistakes: During the rather important kitchen sink conversations after the family holiday dinner, a props tag is plainly visible on a dish's underside. As the dish is conspicuously hand-washed under running water, the underside faces the camera and the large masking tape tag with marker lettering goes unacknowledged by the cast.


Continuity: In the scene where Jack Twist is first introduced to Alma by Ennis, her purse is on her left shoulder and her arms are down - immediately in the next scene when she is shown, her arms are folded across her chest in a "defensive" stance.


Continuity: When imitating a rodeo ride at the camp, Jack is holding a bottle in his left hand and has his hat on. In the next shot he is holding the hat in his left hand.


Crew or equipment visible: (At 01:45:00) During their argument at the fishing place, you can clearly see the camera setup that has been left on one of the cars.


Continuity: When Jack arrives at Aguirre's trailer his pickup is parked nose in, but when he and Ennis are back from the mountain and Ennis is helping him get his truck started, it is facing nose out.


Anachronisms: Early in the film (1963, Wyoming) a train is seen crossing the screen without a caboose. Cabooses were required by law on all trains into the 1980s.


Revealing mistakes: During the hail storm scene on Brokeback Mountain, although one can hear the wind blowing very hard, the trees in the distance remain still.


Anachronisms: The first reunion of Jack and Ennis is on 24th September 1967. On the next day 25th, they went onto the mountains and at that night there was a full moon. However, the full moon of September 1967 should be at 18th day, not 24th or 25th.


Errors made by characters (possibly deliberate errors by the filmmakers): When Jack rides the bull (at the same rodeo where he meets Lureen), he is thrown to the ground before the eight-second buzzer sounds. This should have counted as a no-score.


Revealing mistakes: When Ennis comes back to camp late at night after he encounters the bear, Jack asks him where he's been. It's supposed to be cold but when Jack talks you can't see his breath. When Ennis tells his story about the bear, you can see his breath, but when they continue talking, neither one's breath can be seen in the cold night air.


Continuity: The fight Jack and Ennis the last time they are on Brokeback Mountain: Jack clearly has no mustache during the argument, but when Ennis drives off, Jack has a full grown mustache.


Continuity: Jack has a mustache throughout the scene when he fights with Ennis toward the end. There is a brief flashback when Jack thinks of how they 'used to be' when he had no mustache, years ago. When it comes back to the present and Jack is watching Ennis drive off, he has his mustache again.


Continuity: Enis is helping Jack start his truck after they get back from Brokeback Mt. As soon as the truck starts Enis slams the hood down, but it is not all the way closed. Enis then leans on the truck and he and Jack have a conversation. In the next scene you see Jack driving the truck away and the hood is completely closed.


Factual errors: The two teams playing football on TV during the Thanksgiving Day dinner are the NY Jets and the Pittsburgh Steelers. Only the Detroit Lions and Dallas Cowboys have hosted Thanksgiving Day games for a good number of years.





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