Author Topic: Sending postcards by General Delivery to Ennis in Riverton, WY. (Read 62382 times)

Cowboy Cody · « **Reply #30 on:** Mar 06, 2006, 08:47 PM »

Another batch coming from me this week. Will try to get them out by Wednesday! Riverton...Here We Come...or as they use to say in the old days....

We're HERE and we're QUEER

ethan · « **Reply #31 on:** Mar 06, 2006, 10:30 PM »

Bubu and I are sending ours tomorrow. Here is what I wrote

Dear Ennis,

This postcard is long overdue. Thanks for being a part of my life. Wishing you the best in Brokeback Mountain. Love. Ethan

Cowboy Cody · « **Reply #32 on:** Mar 06, 2006, 10:55 PM »

Ethan - that is a terrific sentiment. Are you gonna put a return address on it?

ethan · « **Reply #33 on:** Mar 06, 2006, 11:06 PM »

Quote from: Cowboy Cody on Mar 06, 2006, 10:55 PM

Ethan - that is a terrific sentiment. Are you gonna put a return address on it?

Thanks, I didn't put a return address. Any reason why we should?

Cowboy Cody · « **Reply #34 on:** Mar 06, 2006, 11:28 PM »

NO. I was hoping that's what you'd say. I don't want them to return it to me. I want them to have to handle it. Might even be a bonus for their tourism in that section of the state of Wyomin' as they call it.

bokano · « **Reply #35 on:** Mar 07, 2006, 12:13 AM »

Quote from: ethan on Mar 06, 2006, 10:30 PM

Bubu and I are sending ours tomorrow. Here is what I wrote

Dear Ennis,

This postcard is long overdue. Thanks for being a part of my life. Wishing you the best in Brokeback Mountain. Love. Ethan

ethan,

My tears comes out again when I see your statement...

ethan · « **Reply #36 on:** Mar 07, 2006, 12:17 AM »

Quote from: bokano on Mar 07, 2006, 12:13 AM

ethan,

My tears comes out again when I see your statement...

Hugs, bokano. Thanks for this great idea.

*Froggy* · « **Reply #37 on:** Mar 07, 2006, 01:55 PM »

When are you posting yours..coz I would have to post mine a few days before you..I have postcards already..and stamps..I can post mine tomorrow?

Jack_ME · « **Reply #38 on:** Mar 07, 2006, 02:40 PM »

I think this is a great idea, and we should all do it.

The Post Office MUST hold any mail that arrives care of General Delivery for 30 days.

They can not arbitrarily make a determination that the person exists or does not exist.

So they will have to hold each of these pieces of mail for at least 30 days from each postmark. So in that sense, it will be as useful to send a couple of cards spread out a week apart, thus continuing this 30 day period.

IF there is a return address the PO MUST return the undelivered mail to the sender, marked as undelivered.

If there is NO return address, the mail will go to the "Dead Letter Office" where typically, enveloped mail, with no visible return address, is opened and searched inside for a possible return address, which if found is used to send the piece of mail back to its original sender. Barring finding an address through this process I am then not sure what happens to that mail, ie, whether it is at that point the mail is destroyed or whether it still must be held for some period of time.

In this vein, often local PO's will have to deal with letters addressed to "Santa Claus", and I believe they have some ruling that allows them to amass and hand-off that sort of mail to a single designated recipient.

So in the end, they may have to collect these nonreturnable pieces of mail, and hand them off to Focus Films, if a newsworthy story gets out over this, and/or Focus Films is made aware of it.

Just some thoughts to consider.
It's a good idea, and I'm gong to send a Post Card a week for several weeks.

Jack in Maine

onebroken · « **Reply #39 on:** Mar 07, 2006, 03:16 PM »

If we want news coverage...then I suggest we find out what TV station (s) cover the Riverton area. Then we tell them what we've done. I say TV rather than radio, because a TV affiliate's story might get picked up in bigger markets.

Does anyone else think this might help? If so, I'd be willing to call and find out the TV station's name, address, phone number.

Jack_ME · « **Reply #40 on:** Mar 07, 2006, 04:10 PM »

Quote from: onebroken on Mar 07, 2006, 03:16 PM

If we want news coverage...then I suggest we find out what TV station (s) cover the Riverton area. Then we tell them what we've done. I say TV rather than radio, because a TV affiliates story might get picked up in bigger markets.

Does anyone else think this might help? If so, I'd be willing to call and find out the TV station's name, address, phone number.

Sounds like a good idea, onebroken,

but I suggest you wait awhile until we can be sure that some, hopefully lots, of postcards have arrived and are being held there in Riverton.

Do not notify too early as if they go check it out and only find a few pieces of mail, it won't be deemed a worthwhile story and they will likely NOT go back to do a follow-up, unless later some other media catches it.

So my advice would be to wait, until say for instance, at least 21 days have gone by since the first cards were mailed out.
The PO has to hold that mail for 30 days.
I know that now is the Oscar buzz, but still I feel as above. Others may feel differently.

By the way, I intend to send at least one post card a week so as to keep extending the 30 day period the PO has to deal with this mail for our Ennis.

Jack in Maine

stephan · « **Reply #41 on:** Mar 07, 2006, 04:25 PM »

Jack_ME, onebroken, thanks for your posts.
I would love this postcard movement to get on US television at least. I think you both have good ideas. I have 2 postcards ready, I'll send them 2 weeks apart.

Patriot1 · « **Reply #42 on:** Mar 07, 2006, 04:39 PM »

Quote from: Jack_ME on Mar 07, 2006, 04:10 PM

By the way, I intend to send at least one post card a week so as to keep extending the 30 day period the PO has to deal with this mail for our Ennis.

Jack in Maine[/color]

Jack, I think you might be under a misconception here. By you sending a postcard a week it doesn't extend the 30 days for the cards sent previously. If you send a card 1/1/06 and then another on 1/8/06, the second card doesn't extend the 30 days for the first card. It still has a 30 day wait which will end on 2/1/06.

Rønnaug · « **Reply #43 on:** Mar 07, 2006, 04:47 PM »

mine will go out tomorow as I only saw this today

Patriot1 · « **Reply #44 on:** Mar 07, 2006, 05:27 PM »

Brothers, Sisters and Friends,

I sure hope you all aren't setting yourself up for another disappointment here. It sure would be great if the news got and aired a story about us sending cards to Ennis and Jack, to say the least. But, I hope you will all remember where these postcards are going. They are going to Riverton, Wyoming.

This is a very conservative State with good, hardworking, Christian conservatives living there. They may not like us trying to make their community "news worthy."

If you will check the gay guides, there are no gay bars in all of Wyoming. There are one or two gay "organizations" in the bigger cities but not much else. Remember also that Matthew Shepard was just brutally killed there a few short years ago in one of their larger cities.

In order for the news to get the story the postmaster of Riverton would have to alert them. The postmaster may not want that kind of publicity for his community.

All I am saying is, don't set yourself up for a let down. If it happens, GREAT! But, don't count too much on it.

Rønnaug · « **Reply #45 on:** Mar 07, 2006, 05:32 PM »

Quote from: Patriot1 on Mar 07, 2006, 05:27 PM

Brothers, Sisters and Friends,

I sure hope you all aren't setting yourself up for another disappointment here. It sure would be great if the news got and aired a story about us sending cards to Ennis and Jack, to say the least. But, I hope you will all remember where these postcards are going. They are going to Riverton, Wyoming.

This is a very conservative State with good, hardworking, Christian conservatives living there. They may not like us trying to make their community "news worthy."

If you will check the gay guides, there are no gay bars in all of Wyoming. There are one or two gay "organizations" in the bigger cities but not much else. Remember also that Matthew Shepard was just brutally killed there a few short years ago in one of their larger cities.

In order for the news to get the story the postmaster of Riverton would have to alert them. The postmaster may not want that kind of publicity for his community.

All I am saying is, don't set yourself up for a let down. If it happens, GREAT! But, don't count too much on it.

well, if it don't make the news, and frankly I don't care if it does than mayby what u are saying is the EXACT reason we should do it...

stephan · « **Reply #46 on:** Mar 07, 2006, 05:35 PM »

Quote from: Patriot1 on Mar 07, 2006, 05:27 PM

Brothers, Sisters and Friends,

All I am saying is, don't set yourself up for a let down. If it happens, GREAT! But, don't count too much on it.

Hi Patriot1,
as hard as it is to admit, you may be very right. :-\
But that won't stop me from sending cards.

Surely people can stop taking themselves so seriously for a while ? An avalanche of cards at Riverton, Wyoming : let them have a chuckle ! go to the bar and have a beer and talk about it ! not be drama queens about everything !
Or are the Wyomingians so utterly heartless ?

onebroken · « **Reply #47 on:** Mar 07, 2006, 05:50 PM »

I'll go ahead and do as Jack_ME suggested.

Everyone else has made good, valid points too.

If nothing comes of it, well, if we can't fix it, we'll have to stand it.

Going to the movie tonight. It's already been pulled from other theaters and I guess mine is next.
:'(

Patriot1 · « **Reply #48 on:** Mar 07, 2006, 06:06 PM »

Quote from: Esme on Mar 07, 2006, 05:32 PM

well, if it don't make the news, and frankly I don't care if it does than mayby what u are saying is the EXACT reason we should do it...

Oh absolutely we should do it!! I wasn't suggesting otherwise. My cards are already there I am sure.
I just don't want to see my family's hopes dashed yet again.

stephan · « **Reply #49 on:** Mar 07, 2006, 06:12 PM »

Quote from: Patriot1 on Mar 07, 2006, 06:06 PM

Oh absolutely we should do it!! I wasn't suggesting otherwise. My cards are already there I am sure.
I just don't want to see my family's hopes dashed yet again.

Right again, Patriot1. We aren't going to overdramatise everything. As onebroken says, if we can't fix it....
Stephan

LuvJackNasty · « **Reply #50 on:** Mar 07, 2006, 06:29 PM »

Mine is going out tomorrow.

Jack_ME · « **Reply #51 on:** Mar 07, 2006, 06:32 PM »

Quote from: Patriot1 on Mar 07, 2006, 04:39 PM

Quote from: Jack_ME on Mar 07, 2006, 04:10 PM
By the way, I intend to send at least one post card a week so as to keep extending the 30 day period the PO has to deal with this mail for our Ennis.

Jack in Maine[/color]

Jack, I think you might be under a misconception here. By you sending a postcard a week it doesn't extend the 30 days for the cards sent previously. If you send a card 1/1/06 and then another on 1/8/06, the second card doesn't extend the 30 days for the first card. It still has a 30 day wait which will end on 2/1/06.

Patriot, I suppose I wasn't expressing myself clearly, or you've misunderstood me.

I know that a subsequent card won't extend the first piece of mail's 30 days, and that's exactly my point.

If I send one today, 30 days from today it will expire and the PO will have to process it.

If I send one next Tuesday, then 30 days from that date, they'll have to process another piece of mail, etc.

This can go on for as long as we like it too, and unless and until the local PO gets some sort of OK to hand over, or forward ANY SUBSEQUENT mail to a designated recipient who is NOT the addressee.

Therefore if this campaign continued long enough and with enough of a bulk of mail, eventually the PO, with the help of the local media, may be forced to involve Focus Films, etc.. which would likely also then get national media coverage....that's my idea behind a continued staggered postcard campaign.

Jack in Maine

And in reference to waiting 21 days or thereabouts before alerting the local media is simply to give enough time for a certain bulk of cards to arrive before the PO begins to eliminate them.

Patriot1 · « **Reply #52 on:** Mar 07, 2006, 06:37 PM »

Quote from: Jack_ME on Mar 07, 2006, 06:32 PM

...that's my idea behind a continued staggered postcard campaign.

Jack in Maine

Yes Jack, I did misunderstand you. Sounds like a plan to me...go for it.

Laundrymat · « **Reply #53 on:** Mar 08, 2006, 05:47 AM »

May i ask a question. Should we use the postcard that has “ennisjack.com” written on it? or just some random one?

Cos I will have crazy working schedules this month and will stay many different out-port.
Should I use the postcard from different countries? Just go with those that have “ennisjack.com” written on it?

Thanks

ethan · « **Reply #54 on:** Mar 08, 2006, 08:38 AM »

Quote from: Laundrymat on Mar 08, 2006, 05:47 AM

May i ask a question. Should we use the postcard that has “ennisjack.com” written on it? or just some random one?

Cos I will have crazy working schedules this month and will stay many different out-port.
Should I use the postcard from different countries? Just go with those that have “ennisjack.com” written on it?

Thanks

It is up to you. I used a NYC postcard but did mention ennisjack.com.

stephan · « **Reply #55 on:** Mar 08, 2006, 08:41 AM »

The one I'm sending in a few minutes is horses on a farm. Stephan

Laundrymat · « **Reply #56 on:** Mar 08, 2006, 08:47 AM »

Quote from: ethan on Mar 08, 2006, 08:38 AM

It is up to you. I used a NYC postcard but did mention ennisjack.com.

Ok, I will use different countries then.

without ennisjack.com, we wouldn’t even have a place to start from.
so it's good to let them know.

donnaread · « **Reply #57 on:** Mar 08, 2006, 03:09 PM »

Has anyone actually done this? And if so...what was the result? Donna

ethan · « **Reply #58 on:** Mar 08, 2006, 03:20 PM »

Quote from: donnaread on Mar 08, 2006, 03:09 PM

Has anyone actually done this? And if so...what was the result? Donna

donnaread, welcome and thanks for posting. We just started this campaign and don't really know the result. We are hoping to generate some media attention when more people are sending the postcard to Riverton.

For me, it is not only the hope to generate some media attention but also makes me feel better. Hope you will join us.

stephan · « **Reply #59 on:** Mar 08, 2006, 03:23 PM »

Back again, nice people. My postcard to Ennis in Riverton left in this evening's post. Here it is :

I wrote : "Friend, this card is long overdue. You will never know how much you mean to all of us at ennisjack.com"

Stephan