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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #450 on: Jul 05, 2006, 09:03 PM »
I would have loved the next morning scene to have shown Jack 'butted up against Ennis' like in the short story.  That would have said it all. Would have left no doubt that Jack got what he was after and was all Ennis's. 
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #451 on: Jul 07, 2006, 09:37 AM »
Quote from: CherryCake on Jul 05, 2006, 09:03 PM
I would have loved the next morning scene to have shown Jack 'butted up against Ennis' like in the short story.  That would have said it all. Would have left no doubt that Jack got what he was after and all Ennis's. 
Oh!! yes  I'd liked it 2!!
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #452 on: Jul 08, 2006, 12:36 PM »
Still think he should have made him breakfst though. He earned it!
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #453 on: Jul 08, 2006, 12:50 PM »
Quote from: aintfoolin on Jul 08, 2006, 12:36 PM
Still think he should have made him breakfst though. He earned it!

Oh, yes he did!
Back to the FNIT... do you think Jack expected to be taken like that?  He didn't try to stop it.
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #454 on: Jul 08, 2006, 12:57 PM »
Not in his wildest dreams! But he was glad it did . he looked very content the next morning.
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #455 on: Jul 08, 2006, 09:28 PM »
Has someone else speculated about why Ennis's clothing is still undone (love that shot of him pulling up his pants!), but Jack has his coat on again when they wake up?  Makes me think that maybe Jack woke up again after they were finished and got a few moments to savor what they had just done while Ennis slept beside him . . . ;)
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #456 on: Jul 09, 2006, 05:21 AM »
Quote from: shieldmaid on Jul 08, 2006, 09:28 PM
Has someone else speculated about why Ennis's clothing is still undone (love that shot of him pulling up his pants!), but Jack has his coat on again when they wake up?  Makes me think that maybe Jack woke up again after they were finished and got a few moments to savor what they had just done while Ennis slept beside him . . . ;)

Well, the short story says "out, down and asleep" right after Jack's choked "gun's goin' off".....but obviously Jack did wake up again and put his coat back on (and presumably pull his jeans back up too) Remember too that Ennis was sound asleep when Jack took his hand to start with - and he was pretty groggy throughout the whole encounter - so it's not that surprising that he crashed out again straight afterwards, is it?

Like you, though, I love that shot of him pulling his jeans up, right after he's looked at Jack with a kind of puzzled expression on his face like "what did we do last night?" before the memories come back....
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #457 on: Jul 09, 2006, 05:36 AM »
Quote from: NoReins on Jul 09, 2006, 05:21 AM
Quote from: shieldmaid on Jul 08, 2006, 09:28 PM
Has someone else speculated about why Ennis's clothing is still undone (love that shot of him pulling up his pants!), but Jack has his coat on again when they wake up?  Makes me think that maybe Jack woke up again after they were finished and got a few moments to savor what they had just done while Ennis slept beside him . . . ;)

Well, the short story says "out, down and asleep" right after Jack's choked "gun's goin' off".....but obviously Jack did wake up again and put his coat back on (and presumably pull his jeans back up too) Remember too that Ennis was sound asleep when Jack took his hand to start with - and he was pretty groggy throughout the whole encounter - so it's not that surprising that he crashed out again straight afterwards, is it?

Like you, though, I love that shot of him pulling his jeans up, right after he's looked at Jack with a kind of puzzled expression on his face like "what did we do last night?" before the memories come back....

Yeah! That's one of my favourite scenes in the movie when he wakes up. It always makes me giggle cos the expression on his face is just SO good. It was really well acted by Heath.
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #458 on: Jul 09, 2006, 07:25 AM »
I just like the different reactions; Ennis baffled, confused, almost angry, with that sudden sidways look at Jack, and Jack, sleeping like a baby, blissfully unaware.Jack is so often happy in the moment, even when he's asleep.
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #459 on: Jul 10, 2006, 02:45 PM »
I read somewhere that A. Lee did about 17 takes of this scene. He's gotta know fans of this movie are salivating for more. I'm waiting for the Director's cut of this film. Is it a possibilty?  It usally has alot lot of scenes that were previously cut.
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #460 on: Jul 10, 2006, 03:21 PM »
Quote from: aintfoolin on Jul 10, 2006, 02:45 PM
I read somewhere that A. Lee did about 17 takes of this scene. He's gotta know fans of this movie are salivating for more. I'm waiting for the Director's cut of this film. Is it a possibilty?  It usally has alot lot of scenes that were previously cut.

Yeah, I think there were at least 13 takes.  Ang needs to throw us all a bone here and give us those outtakes.  I need to hear what Jack says on take 10 if he says "F**k me" on take 7.  Jack was probably singing the hallelujah chorus by take 10 . . .  ;D
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #461 on: Jul 10, 2006, 03:40 PM »
I LOVE the direction this is goin!!!
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #462 on: Jul 10, 2006, 03:57 PM »
Jack definily says f#$ck me in this scene.  I heard it my own ears.  O........M......G.!
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #463 on: Jul 10, 2006, 04:01 PM »
Quote from: aintfoolin on Jul 10, 2006, 03:57 PM
Jack definily says f#$ck me in this scene.  I heard it my own ears.  O........M......G.!

He says it 3 or 4 times 8) :f)
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #464 on: Jul 10, 2006, 04:26 PM »
3 or 4 times? are you kidding, i barely heard him say it once...that's hot...are the utterances spread out?
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #465 on: Jul 10, 2006, 04:35 PM »
Quote from: gimmejack on Jul 10, 2006, 04:26 PM
3 or 4 times? are you kidding, i barely heard him say it once...that's hot...are the utterances spread out?

I'm not kidding. I've heard it loud and clear.
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #466 on: Jul 10, 2006, 04:43 PM »
Quote from: Twisted on Jul 10, 2006, 04:35 PM
Quote from: gimmejack on Jul 10, 2006, 04:26 PM
3 or 4 times? are you kidding, i barely heard him say it once...that's hot...are the utterances spread out?

I'm not kidding. I've heard it loud and clear.

Yep, me too ;) I only used to hear it sometimes, but then I got a new telly, with a better sound system, and I hear it loud and clear everytime, when he unbuckles his belt, and then when he's on the floor :d)
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #467 on: Jul 10, 2006, 04:50 PM »
He says that when he is unbuckling his belt????????????  OMG, lord have mercy...must watch again for the hundreth or more time!!! I hope I don't fall out of my chair!
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #468 on: Jul 10, 2006, 04:51 PM »
Quote from: CrimsonSky on Jul 10, 2006, 04:43 PM
Quote from: Twisted on Jul 10, 2006, 04:35 PM
Quote from: gimmejack on Jul 10, 2006, 04:26 PM
3 or 4 times? are you kidding, i barely heard him say it once...that's hot...are the utterances spread out?

I'm not kidding. I've heard it loud and clear.

Yep, me too ;) I only used to hear it sometimes, but then I got a new telly, with a better sound system, and I hear it loud and clear everytime, when he unbuckles his belt, and then when he's on the floor :d)

Good description ;) :d) :d) It's sooo HOT!! :d)
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #469 on: Jul 10, 2006, 05:06 PM »
I am definitely going to watch BBM again tonight with the speakers turned all the way up   :8

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #470 on: Jul 10, 2006, 05:16 PM »
I hear. 8)

(come here)
come on
come on - f*** me.
What are you doin'? (Ennis)
f*** me!
(pants down)
f***
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f*** - f*** me
(entering)
oh, f*** me!
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oh god!
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f*** me.
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #471 on: Jul 10, 2006, 05:19 PM »
Quote from: Twisted on Jul 10, 2006, 05:16 PM
I hear. 8)

(come here)
come on
come on - f*** me.
What are you doin'? (Ennis)
f*** me!
(pants down)
f***
-
f*** - f*** me
(entering)
oh, f*** me!
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oh god!
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f*** me.

I only hear the one.  Jesus H.  I want him to say that.....to me just once!!
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #472 on: Jul 10, 2006, 05:28 PM »
just reading that made me feel dizzy  <^(

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #473 on: Jul 11, 2006, 12:50 AM »
I can't wait to get home from work now so I can watch again...volume full blast this time...
the commentary is wicked! thanks twisted!!!
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #474 on: Jul 11, 2006, 02:49 AM »
Save your ears Just use a good set of earphons. It enhances the muffled stuff. Would'nt lie to ya about somethin this hot. Ennis says f@#ck too right when he delivers the goods.
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #475 on: Jul 11, 2006, 04:36 AM »
headphones...good tip! is this the naughty little brokies thread???!!!
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #476 on: Jul 11, 2006, 05:58 AM »
Late at night when the house is quiet - then I hear it. It's difficult if there's background noise.

Brokies in concentrating on the movie are not naughty; they just want to ensur they hear and see everything, the better to make an informed critical judgement. Yeah!

I read that there were 13 takes and the one in the mvoie is No. 7. Ang apparently said that after that one the spontaneity was lost, so presumably by No. 13 Ennis was doing the spitting bit and Jack was like, "Yeah, whatever,"
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #477 on: Jul 11, 2006, 08:13 AM »
Quote from: Twisted on Jul 10, 2006, 05:16 PM
I hear. 8)

(come here)
come on
come on - f*** me.
What are you doin'? (Ennis)
f*** me!
(pants down)
f***
-
f*** - f*** me
(entering)
oh, f*** me!
-
oh god!
-
f*** me.

I've never heard the first one you mentioned before, the first one I hear is after Ennis says "what you doin?" and Jack starts unbuckling his belt! :d) I suppose I'm just going to have to force myself to watch it again tonight!! ;) :8 :d)
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #478 on: Jul 11, 2006, 09:12 AM »
Quote from: mactwck on Jul 10, 2006, 05:19 PM
Quote from: Twisted on Jul 10, 2006, 05:16 PM
I hear. 8)

(come here)
come on
come on - f*** me.
What are you doin'? (Ennis)
f*** me!
(pants down)
f***
-
f*** - f*** me
(entering)
oh, f*** me!
-
oh god!
-
f*** me.

I only hear the one.  Jesus H.  I want him to say that.....to me just once!!

Have mercy!  There's that many "f***ks"?  I only hear Jack saying the one "f***k me" when Ennis is pounding the life out of him.  I also hear Ennis say "f***k" when he is unzipping his pants in a state of frenzy.  I need to watch again.  If Jack says "f***k me" before he unbuckles, that would be the sexiest thing ever.  I will turn that  volume up sky high.  I may blow out my eardrums, but eardrums be damned!  I gotta hear this . . .  :d)
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #479 on: Jul 11, 2006, 10:16 AM »
Hmmm. All very interesting. I may have to have a quick listen on my earbuds when I get home. I've never actually heard Jack say "f*ck me", but I'm not above continuing my research.... ;)
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