Topic: First Night In Tent

[karen1129]

Does anyone notice how Jack, after they grab each others' faces and before Jack unbuckles,  ever so slightly puckers his lips like he's either trying to say something or kiss Ennis?  SEXY!  Whew, haven't watched FNIT in a few days and am beginning to shake from the withdrawals!  Off I Go!

I think Jack definitely wanted to kiss Ennis, but he also knew that might be a step too far for Ennis - a little bit too intimate, maybe? Mind you, I guess you don't get much more intimate than what Ennis did next.... :o

I have never noticed Jack's little pucker before.  Research when I get home from work today  !!!
Maybe he did think Ennis would freak if he kissed him.  Like you say, couldn't get any more intimate with what Ennis did.
Hell., a little kiss beforehand might not have been bad !   I mean, I like to be kiss before I'm..........  !
Kissing came the next night though !  

[karen1129]

EDIT: Just realised that makes me sound like a complete pervert, which I'm not, honest I could just as easily have said the surround sound allows me to be in the kitchen with Ennis and Alma when the postcard arrives, or in Jack and Lureen's at Thanksgiving....

But being the pervert that you are you naturally chose to be in the tent. We undrstand.

 

Just kidding NoReins.  You are no more of a pervert than the rest of us.   

Heck, no you are not a pervert!  Or at least, not any more so than me !  I admit it !
This is important shit we are talking about here 

[stacp]

EDIT: Just realised that makes me sound like a complete pervert, which I'm not, honest I could just as easily have said the surround sound allows me to be in the kitchen with Ennis and Alma when the postcard arrives, or in Jack and Lureen's at Thanksgiving....

But being the pervert that you are you naturally chose to be in the tent. We undrstand.

 

Just kidding NoReins.  You are no more of a pervert than the rest of us.   

Heck, no you are not a pervert!  Or at least, not any more so than me !  I admit it !
This is important shit we are talking about here 

Heck yeah, all this FNIT stuff is important!  I need to know every little moan, whimper, movement, and angle--in detail!!!  I need those outtakes from the FNIT to complete my scientific endeavor!  What I wouldn't do to get those!  If we think take #7 (which they used) was hot, I can imagine just how hot it got on take #13!  :o

[Rønnaug]

EDIT: Just realised that makes me sound like a complete pervert, which I'm not, honest I could just as easily have said the surround sound allows me to be in the kitchen with Ennis and Alma when the postcard arrives, or in Jack and Lureen's at Thanksgiving....

But being the pervert that you are you naturally chose to be in the tent. We undrstand.

 

Just kidding NoReins.  You are no more of a pervert than the rest of us.   

Heck, no you are not a pervert!  Or at least, not any more so than me !  I admit it !
This is important shit we are talking about here 

I think we are all alittle..in love with love here

[karen1129]

EDIT: Just realised that makes me sound like a complete pervert, which I'm not, honest I could just as easily have said the surround sound allows me to be in the kitchen with Ennis and Alma when the postcard arrives, or in Jack and Lureen's at Thanksgiving....

But being the pervert that you are you naturally chose to be in the tent. We undrstand.

 

Just kidding NoReins.  You are no more of a pervert than the rest of us.   

Heck, no you are not a pervert!  Or at least, not any more so than me !  I admit it !
This is important shit we are talking about here 

Heck yeah, all this FNIT stuff is important!  I need to know every little moan, whimper, movement, and angle--in detail!!!  I need those outtakes from the FNIT to complete my scientific endeavor!  What I wouldn't do to get those!  If we think take #7 (which they used) was hot, I can imagine just how hot it got on take #13!  :o

I'll always wonder what it was about take #7 that made Ang choose it.  More importantly, I would love the see the 12 others.
Just to make sure he chose right !
You know he did, but I would like the see the differences.
Strictly for research purposes.  I would only need to watch them once.   

[Patriot1]

Hell, I wouldn't mind seeing the ORIGINAL film in full film lighting before thy darkened it.

[keren_b]

You guys are killing me, I was just thinking about the other 12 takes and how much I would love to see them, and then I come in here and you're already discussing it... damn, I'd give away all my property plus some of my organs just to be on set when they filmed all the love/sex/kissing scenes!!!

[NoReins]

EDIT: Just realised that makes me sound like a complete pervert, which I'm not, honest I could just as easily have said the surround sound allows me to be in the kitchen with Ennis and Alma when the postcard arrives, or in Jack and Lureen's at Thanksgiving....

But being the pervert that you are you naturally chose to be in the tent. We undrstand.

Hell no - if I could choose, I'd be in the motel room.




This thread is so great. I know you're not going to believe me, but I could never discuss this kind of stuff with friends who were actually sitting next to me - I'd be way too shy and embarrassed. Feels pretty natural here, though.....of course, since all this discussion is purely in the interests of fully understanding every emotion that Jack and Ennis shared (and therefore fully appreciating the beauty of Annie Proulx and Ang Lee's masterpieces) and not for any other reason at all, then I guess I'm completely comfortable with it

BTW - you bet I'd like to see the other 12 takes. Don't know if I'd go as far as giving away organs though Keren

[danac]

Hell, I wouldn't mind seeing the ORIGINAL film in full film lighting before thy darkened it.

Even Ang Lee said he was embarrassed for them watching it !!! But, then, he doesn't know the full scale of madness that has overcome us frenziedl brokeaholics!

[stacp]

You guys are killing me, I was just thinking about the other 12 takes and how much I would love to see them, and then I come in here and you're already discussing it... damn, I'd give away all my property plus some of my organs just to be on set when they filmed all the love/sex/kissing scenes!!!

LMAO!  Keren, if you donate your left kidney to the cause, I'll donate my right one.  Those outtakes would be incredible.  Don't know if I could make it through all 12 in one setting.  I might spontaneously combust!  Seriously, has anyone ever seen heat and chemistry like that on the big screen before?  It's unbelievable.  You can't fake chemistry like that.  You either have it or you don't.  They have it--big time.  If they didn't this scene, this movie would never work.  Because of the raw nature of the FNIT, if you will, I bet both Heath and Jake had to be pretty comfortable with each other to make it work.  Whew, if they rehearsed, I hope somebody taped that as well!   :o

[Patriot1]

Hell, I wouldn't mind seeing the ORIGINAL film in full film lighting before thy darkened it.

Even Ang Lee said he was embarrassed for them watching it !!! But, then, he doesn't know the full scale of madness that has overcome us frenziedl brokeaholics!

You sure can say that again danac.  I wonder if any of the cast thought this movie would be picked apart like we are picking this one apart.  And, I wonder if they know just how much this movie is truly loved.

[xvbbJ]

Even Ang Lee said he was embarrassed for them watching it !!! But, then, he doesn't know the full scale of madness that has overcome us frenziedl brokeaholics!

He said he was "touched, really touched" (There's a vid on youtube with the interview.) - who could blame him, there's some marvellous, so incredibly natural and magical chemistry between Jack and Ennis (/the actors)...

[karen1129]

EDIT: Just realised that makes me sound like a complete pervert, which I'm not, honest I could just as easily have said the surround sound allows me to be in the kitchen with Ennis and Alma when the postcard arrives, or in Jack and Lureen's at Thanksgiving....

But being the pervert that you are you naturally chose to be in the tent. We undrstand.

Hell no - if I could choose, I'd be in the motel room.




This thread is so great. I know you're not going to believe me, but I could never discuss this kind of stuff with friends who were actually sitting next to me - I'd be way too shy and embarrassed. Feels pretty natural here, though.....of course, since all this discussion is purely in the interests of fully understanding every emotion that Jack and Ennis shared (and therefore fully appreciating the beauty of Annie Proulx and Ang Lee's masterpieces) and not for any other reason at all, then I guess I'm completely comfortable with it

BTW - you bet I'd like to see the other 12 takes. Don't know if I'd go as far as giving away organs though Keren

You have a point there.  Motel room would have been very, very interesting. 
I'm thinking they were stripped before that motel room door was closed good.

[NoReins]

EDIT: Just realised that makes me sound like a complete pervert, which I'm not, honest I could just as easily have said the surround sound allows me to be in the kitchen with Ennis and Alma when the postcard arrives, or in Jack and Lureen's at Thanksgiving....

But being the pervert that you are you naturally chose to be in the tent. We undrstand.

Hell no - if I could choose, I'd be in the motel room.




This thread is so great. I know you're not going to believe me, but I could never discuss this kind of stuff with friends who were actually sitting next to me - I'd be way too shy and embarrassed. Feels pretty natural here, though.....of course, since all this discussion is purely in the interests of fully understanding every emotion that Jack and Ennis shared (and therefore fully appreciating the beauty of Annie Proulx and Ang Lee's masterpieces) and not for any other reason at all, then I guess I'm completely comfortable with it

BTW - you bet I'd like to see the other 12 takes. Don't know if I'd go as far as giving away organs though Keren

You have a point there.  Motel room would have been very, very interesting. 
I'm thinking they were stripped before that motel room door was closed good.

Well Karen - I offered up my take on the motel scene in the fanfic forum....how about you give us yours? I'm thinking it would be a fair bit hotter than mine

[Patriot1]

LMAO!  Keren, if you donate your left kidney to the cause, I'll donate my right one.  Those outtakes would be incredible.  Don't know if I could make it through all 12 in one setting.  I might spontaneously combust!  Seriously, has anyone ever seen heat and chemistry like that on the big screen before?  It's unbelievable.  You can't fake chemistry like that.  You either have it or you don't.  They have it--big time.  If they didn't this scene, this movie would never work.  Because of the raw nature of the FNIT, if you will, I bet both Heath and Jake had to be pretty comfortable with each other to make it work.  Whew, if they rehearsed, I hope somebody taped that as well!   :o

I have always said these two boys put every fiber of their being into making it real.  But you know, I think the 2nd night in the tent had to have been the ultimate.  Screwing in the dark is hard enough, but, tenderly kissing and carressing each other as they did...that took dedication to the movie and to Ennis and Jack.

Even Ang Lee said it was perfection.

[karen1129]

EDIT: Just realised that makes me sound like a complete pervert, which I'm not, honest I could just as easily have said the surround sound allows me to be in the kitchen with Ennis and Alma when the postcard arrives, or in Jack and Lureen's at Thanksgiving....

But being the pervert that you are you naturally chose to be in the tent. We undrstand.

Hell no - if I could choose, I'd be in the motel room.




This thread is so great. I know you're not going to believe me, but I could never discuss this kind of stuff with friends who were actually sitting next to me - I'd be way too shy and embarrassed. Feels pretty natural here, though.....of course, since all this discussion is purely in the interests of fully understanding every emotion that Jack and Ennis shared (and therefore fully appreciating the beauty of Annie Proulx and Ang Lee's masterpieces) and not for any other reason at all, then I guess I'm completely comfortable with it

BTW - you bet I'd like to see the other 12 takes. Don't know if I'd go as far as giving away organs though Keren

You have a point there.  Motel room would have been very, very interesting. 
I'm thinking they were stripped before that motel room door was closed good.

Well Karen - I offered up my take on the motel scene in the fanfic forum....how about you give us yours? I'm thinking it would be a fair bit hotter than mine

I haven't read any fanfic yet.  I'll have to head over that way !
Make sure I take my inhaler with me !!!

[keren_b]

Well Karen - I offered up my take on the motel scene in the fanfic forum....how about you give us yours? I'm thinking it would be a fair bit hotter than mine

Where, where?? I wanna read!

[CrimsonSky]

Wow, this thread certainly is running on full throttle, isn't it? :o

Without wishing to be too crude, perhaps Jack knew that it would be too painful for Ennis if it was any other way that first night. I think we're mostly in agreement that it wasn't Jack's first time, but Annie Proulx clearly states that Ennis hadn't done it before. Jack didn't want to do anything that might cause Ennis to back off and hurting him physically would presumably do that, at least up until the point (SNIT) where Ennis comes to Jack voluntarily.

Now, umm, about the FNIT. Jack's placing Ennis's had on his [Jack's] erection might indicate that all Jack dared hope for this first night was a little playing around, maybe mutual masturbation or some other bumping and grinding, perhaps leading to orgasm. Maybe even something more, but not full-scale an*l intercourse.

Jack, I think, knew Ennis would only be okay in his masculinity if he were on top that night, and I think Jack was fine with this, to say the least

All these explanations make a lot of sense to me I love how so many people can all agree from so many differnt perspectives

[NoReins]

Wow, this thread certainly is running on full throttle, isn't it? :o

Yep, ain't no reins on this one

[CrimsonSky]

Does anyone notice how Jack, after they grab each others' faces and before Jack unbuckles,  ever so slightly puckers his lips like he's either trying to say something or kiss Ennis?  SEXY!  Whew, haven't watched FNIT in a few days and am beginning to shake from the withdrawals!  Off I Go!

I think Jack definitely wanted to kiss Ennis, but he also knew that might be a step too far for Ennis - a little bit too intimate, maybe? Mind you, I guess you don't get much more intimate than what Ennis did next.... :o

I don't know, I would say kissing can be more intimate than actually having sex sometimes, you have to get up close and personal to kiss someone,but not neccessarily to have sex with them. Don't prostitutes have a 'no kissing' rule for that same reason?

I think Jack probably did worry that kissing Ennis would have scared him off, but he could tell he wanted it, so decided to stick to the basics for that first night and hope Ennis would come back for more, and there'd be plenty of time for kissing then

For me, as far as intimacy goes, SNIT beats FNIT everytime

 

[CrimsonSky]

I'll always wonder what it was about take #7 that made Ang choose it.  More importantly, I would love the see the 12 others.
Just to make sure he chose right !
You know he did, but I would like the see the differences.
Strictly for research purposes.  I would only need to watch them once.   

Once a day? Or once an hour? Imagine if all the takes were released on DVD, we would need a new forum, this thread already has 7 pages and it's only one scene :o

Slightly OT, but talking about all the takes reminded me of a behind the scenes thing in one of the features where Ang is on a bucking bronce (I think that's what they're called ), and when he falls off, Jake shouts something like "That's not sexy enough, we need to do another take!"   I think I would've tried that more than once if I'd been Ang filming some of the scenes in the movie :-[   

[karen1129]

Does anyone notice how Jack, after they grab each others' faces and before Jack unbuckles,  ever so slightly puckers his lips like he's either trying to say something or kiss Ennis?  SEXY!  Whew, haven't watched FNIT in a few days and am beginning to shake from the withdrawals!  Off I Go!

I think Jack definitely wanted to kiss Ennis, but he also knew that might be a step too far for Ennis - a little bit too intimate, maybe? Mind you, I guess you don't get much more intimate than what Ennis did next.... :o

I don't know, I would say kissing can be more intimate than actually having sex sometimes, you have to get up close and personal to kiss someone,but not neccessarily to have sex with them. Don't prostitutes have a 'no kissing' rule for that same reason?

I think Jack probably did worry that kissing Ennis would have scared him off, but he could tell he wanted it, so decided to stick to the basics for that first night and hope Ennis would come back for more, and there'd be plenty of time for kissing then

For me, as far as intimacy goes, SNIT beats FNIT everytime

 

SNIT is so sensuous.  Sigh !  I'm pretty new here.  Is there a SNIT thread?
I can talk non-stop about that scene !!  In between cold showers !
Analyze the shit out of that scene too !

[Patriot1]

Is there a SNIT thread?

There sure is Karen:

http://www.ennisjack.com/index.php?topic=593.0

[edgar]

Jack, however, is not one to go at any pursuit cautiously or halfway (he goes "full-throttle"); it's "all or nothing" with him. So he goes for it all.

 :-[     :-[

I presume you mean Ennis here, edgar?

Yes, yes, yes. Sorry; for some reason I cannot explain, I often type "Jack" when I mean "Ennis" (never the other way around.) I guess to me, that guy just looks like a "Jack" somehow.    :-[

[CrimsonSky]

Thanks Patriot1, I was going to have a look myself in the index thread, but you've saved me job now Not sure if I dare read it right now though, there's sure to be loads of details that will need checking, and I already slept in this morning cause I was up til late checking FNIT :-[ :-[ :-[

[shieldmaid]

I feel like we could start an entirely new thread just on the chemistry that exists between Ledger and Gyllenhaal in this film . . . In one interview, Heath said something like, "I wasn't kissing a mule's behind, I was kissing a human being with a soul.  And yes, he's a good kisser."  I *always* think of that now when I see FNIT--although they've both admitted how nervous they were, their minds were totally focused on this interaction, in real life, and I just don't think you can totally fake that kind of chemistry.  (Don't get me wrong; Michelle Williams seems very sweet and I'm glad she and Heath are together.  But still!)

When I see these elements I can't help but be amazed at the spark between them:
*kissing
*grabbing
*moaning
*panting
*floor-pounding

woooo. . . . 

[danac]

) (Don't get me wrong; Michelle Williams seems very sweet and I'm glad she and Heath are together.  But still!)

When I see these elements I can't help but be amazed at the spark between them:
*kissing
*grabbing
*moaning
*panting
*floor-pounding

woooo. . . . 

Yeah, she's cute...and the baby's cute...but I'm still rooting for Heath to go to LA and beg Jake to take him back!
 

[Patriot1]

Sorry girls.

Ethan, didn't we have a rule about not discussing the personal sex lives of Jake and Heath?  I don't want to see the girls get into any trouble here.

[karen1129]

Is there a SNIT thread?

There sure is Karen:

http://www.ennisjack.com/index.php?topic=593.0

Ooooo Weeeee.   I better get on in there and untangle them sheep !!!
I can talk about SNIT all flipping day !!!  Between cold showers.

[LuvJackNasty]

You guys are killing me, I was just thinking about the other 12 takes and how much I would love to see them, and then I come in here and you're already discussing it... damn, I'd give away all my property plus some of my organs just to be on set when they filmed all the love/sex/kissing scenes!!!

LMAO!  Keren, if you donate your left kidney to the cause, I'll donate my right one.  Those outtakes would be incredible.  Don't know if I could make it through all 12 in one setting.  I might spontaneously combust!  Seriously, has anyone ever seen heat and chemistry like that on the big screen before?  It's unbelievable.  You can't fake chemistry like that.  You either have it or you don't.  They have it--big time.  If they didn't this scene, this movie would never work.  Because of the raw nature of the FNIT, if you will, I bet both Heath and Jake had to be pretty comfortable with each other to make it work.  Whew, if they rehearsed, I hope somebody taped that as well!   :o

I'll donate an organ as well! I couldn't watch all of the outtakes in one shot either! Spontaneously combust-LMAO My friend and I were watching FNIT in slo mo before {she decided to help me research} and when Ennis pulled Jack's pants off our held were tilting down to the right almost trying to look up-we were trying to get a better view of "Jack Jr" as my friend named it. Didn't we wish! LOL  This scene in slo-mo- that is a jackasm moment!