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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #210 on: May 08, 2006, 07:44 PM »
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You guys are killing me, I was just thinking about the other 12 takes and how much I would love to see them, and then I come in here and you're already discussing it... damn, I'd give away all my property plus some of my organs just to be on set when they filmed all the love/sex/kissing scenes!!!

LMAO!  Keren, if you donate your left kidney to the cause, I'll donate my right one.  ;) Those outtakes would be incredible.  Don't know if I could make it through all 12 in one setting.  I might spontaneously combust!  Seriously, has anyone ever seen heat and chemistry like that on the big screen before?  It's unbelievable.  You can't fake chemistry like that.  You either have it or you don't.  They have it--big time.  If they didn't this scene, this movie would never work.  Because of the raw nature of the FNIT, if you will, I bet both Heath and Jake had to be pretty comfortable with each other to make it work.  Whew, if they rehearsed, I hope somebody taped that as well!   :o

I'll donate an organ as well! I couldn't watch all of the outtakes in one shot either! Spontaneously combust-LMAO My friend and I were watching FNIT in slo mo before {she decided to help me research} and when Ennis pulled Jack's pants off our held were tilting down to the right almost trying to look up-we were trying to get a better view of "Jack Jr" as my friend named it. Didn't we wish! LOL  ;D This scene in slo-mo- that is a jackasm moment!

Uuhhhh.  I haven't zoomed in that spot !!  Jack Jr, huh?  I like it  ;D
Notice the veins in Jack's neck .  Look like they are about to pop ! ::)
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #211 on: May 08, 2006, 07:46 PM »
"Jackasm": what a great term!!  Let's not forget "Ennisasm" (Ennisplosion? Ennisworks?) as well--for me it's his moan/cry at the end of the scene that really makes it explosive.  ;)
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #212 on: May 08, 2006, 07:48 PM »
Unfortunately there is no view of Jack Jr. But we caught ourselves leaning and straining as if there was something to see-wishful thinking!  ;D I'll have to take another look- didn't notice the viens in his neck- her tv is too dark- I'll have to retire to the privacy of my room later to check it out.
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #213 on: May 08, 2006, 07:49 PM »
Quote from: shieldmaid on May 08, 2006, 07:46 PM
"Jackasm": what a great term!!  Let's not forget "Ennisasm" (Ennisplosion? Ennisworks?) as well--for me it's his moan/cry at the end of the scene that really makes it explosive.  ;)

That slipped out today while discussing the research project and we got stuck on it-lol.
I like Ennisplosion.  ;D
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #214 on: May 08, 2006, 07:59 PM »
Quote from: stacp on May 08, 2006, 03:22 PM

 Seriously, has anyone ever seen heat and chemistry like that on the big screen before?  It's unbelievable.  You can't fake chemistry like that.  You either have it or you don't.  They have it--big time.  If they didn't this scene, this movie would never work.  Because of the raw nature of the FNIT, if you will, I bet both Heath and Jake had to be pretty comfortable with each other to make it work
       
I agree totally!  I have read hundreds of reviews of BBM, and would you believe that there are actually some people who said their love wasn't "believable" and they found no "chemistry" between Ennis/Heath and Jack/Jake.  I don't know how anyone can say that!  God, that reunion kiss is so hot...no chemistry?  They must be blind!

Donna  >:(
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #215 on: May 08, 2006, 08:05 PM »
Quote from: donnaread on May 08, 2006, 07:59 PM
Quote from: stacp on May 08, 2006, 03:22 PM

 Seriously, has anyone ever seen heat and chemistry like that on the big screen before?  It's unbelievable.  You can't fake chemistry like that.  You either have it or you don't.  They have it--big time.  If they didn't this scene, this movie would never work.  Because of the raw nature of the FNIT, if you will, I bet both Heath and Jake had to be pretty comfortable with each other to make it work
       
I agree totally!  I have read hundreds of reviews of BBM, and would you believe that there are actually some people who said their love wasn't "believable" and they found no "chemistry" between Ennis/Heath and Jack/Jake.  I don't know how anyone can say that!  God, that reunion kiss is so hot...no chemistry?  They must be blind!

Donna  >:(

What..  not believeable ? :-X
THey better shut their slop bucket mouth ! :P
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #216 on: May 08, 2006, 08:12 PM »
Quote from: karen1129 on May 08, 2006, 08:05 PM
Quote from: donnaread on May 08, 2006, 07:59 PM
Quote from: stacp on May 08, 2006, 03:22 PM

 Seriously, has anyone ever seen heat and chemistry like that on the big screen before?  It's unbelievable.  You can't fake chemistry like that.  You either have it or you don't.  They have it--big time.  If they didn't this scene, this movie would never work.  Because of the raw nature of the FNIT, if you will, I bet both Heath and Jake had to be pretty comfortable with each other to make it work
       
I agree totally!  I have read hundreds of reviews of BBM, and would you believe that there are actually some people who said their love wasn't "believable" and they found no "chemistry" between Ennis/Heath and Jack/Jake.  I don't know how anyone can say that!  God, that reunion kiss is so hot...no chemistry?  They must be blind!

Donna  >:(

What..  not believeable ? :-X
THey better shut their slop bucket mouth ! :P

Or they'll swallow about half of their f'n teeth!  :P

No chemistry? Not believable? It's rare that I feel a kiss and I felt that in places I shouldn't have.

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #217 on: May 08, 2006, 08:12 PM »
Quote from: shieldmaid on May 08, 2006, 07:46 PM
"Jackasm": what a great term!!  Let's not forget "Ennisasm" (Ennisplosion? Ennisworks?) as well--for me it's his moan/cry at the end of the scene that really makes it explosive.  ;)

I've had many a Jack and Ennisgasm watching FNIT.  It's not a pretty site.  My hubby about drove me to the ER one night after he caught me shaking like a crazy person on the floor.  I just pointed to the DVD box of BBM, he rolled his eyes and left the room and left me to my drooling madness!  :P
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #218 on: May 08, 2006, 08:13 PM »
Quote from: donnaread on May 08, 2006, 07:59 PM
I don't know how anyone can say that!  God, that reunion kiss is so hot...no chemistry?  They must be blind!

Or failed their chemistry class!!!

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #219 on: May 09, 2006, 02:46 AM »
Quote from: Patriot1 on May 08, 2006, 08:13 PM
Quote from: donnaread on May 08, 2006, 07:59 PM
I don't know how anyone can say that!  God, that reunion kiss is so hot...no chemistry?  They must be blind!

Or failed their chemistry class!!!


LMAO!

Are you sure they were watching the same movie? No chemistry?? It's not just in the love scenes where the chemistry is so obviously there - just think of all the little looks, smiles and touches right from the first moment they talk to each other outside Aguirre's trailer.
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #220 on: May 09, 2006, 06:48 AM »
Quote from: shieldmaid on May 08, 2006, 05:34 PM
In one interview, Heath said something like, "I wasn't kissing a mule's behind, I was kissing a human being with a soul.  And yes, he's a good kisser." 

Can you send a link to this interview??
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #221 on: May 09, 2006, 07:37 AM »
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Quote from: shieldmaid on May 08, 2006, 05:34 PM
In one interview, Heath said something like, "I wasn't kissing a mule's behind, I was kissing a human being with a soul.  And yes, he's a good kisser." 

Can you send a link to this interview??

Hmm, yeah, I'd like to read that too. In all the interviews I've read or heard they've stuck pretty solidly to the "choreographed moves, planned in advance, get it over with as quick as possible and move on" type answers. Oh, apart from Oprah where Jake did the whole "drawing stubble on his hand" routine which was just too cute :D
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #222 on: May 09, 2006, 08:52 AM »
The "It wasn't kissing the butt of a mule" line is from the March or April Rolling Stone with Heath on the cover.
The "he's a good kisser" is not from that interview...and I have read and seen so many, I can't remember which it was - but at one point Heath did say that.

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #223 on: May 09, 2006, 10:51 AM »
Quote from: danac on May 09, 2006, 08:52 AM
The "It wasn't kissing the butt of a mule" line is from the March or April Rolling Stone with Heath on the cover.
The "he's a good kisser" is not from that interview...and I have read and seen so many, I can't remember which it was - but at one point Heath did say that.

 :P

Hi, sorry, I knew those two quotes were from different interviews.  "Yeah, he's a good kisser" is from an interview with the Fordham Observer:

http://www.fordhamobserver.com/media/storage/paper827/news/2006/02/02/ArtsCulture/More-Than.Just.the.Gay.Cowboy.Movie.Heath.Ledger.Discusses.brokeback.Mountain-1595399.shtml?norewrite200605091151&sourcedomain=www.fordhamobserver.com

Enjoy!!
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #224 on: May 09, 2006, 11:33 AM »
Quote from: shieldmaid on May 09, 2006, 10:51 AM
Quote from: danac on May 09, 2006, 08:52 AM
The "It wasn't kissing the butt of a mule" line is from the March or April Rolling Stone with Heath on the cover.
The "he's a good kisser" is not from that interview...and I have read and seen so many, I can't remember which it was - but at one point Heath did say that.

 :P

Hi, sorry, I knew those two quotes were from different interviews.  "Yeah, he's a good kisser" is from an interview with the Fordham Observer:

http://www.fordhamobserver.com/media/storage/paper827/news/2006/02/02/ArtsCulture/More-Than.Just.the.Gay.Cowboy.Movie.Heath.Ledger.Discusses.brokeback.Mountain-1595399.shtml?norewrite200605091151&sourcedomain=www.fordhamobserver.com

Enjoy!!

Oh, I did - thanks!
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #225 on: May 09, 2006, 01:11 PM »
Quote from: shieldmaid on May 09, 2006, 10:51 AM
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Hi, sorry, I knew those two quotes were from different interviews.  "Yeah, he's a good kisser" is from an interview with the Fordham Observer:

http://www.fordhamobserver.com/media/storage/paper827/news/2006/02/02/ArtsCulture/More-Than.Just.the.Gay.Cowboy.Movie.Heath.Ledger.Discusses.brokeback.Mountain-1595399.shtml?norewrite200605091151&sourcedomain=www.fordhamobserver.com

Enjoy!!

Thanks. I'd forgotten that...and it is a great interview! :-*
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #226 on: May 09, 2006, 01:19 PM »
Thank you Shieldmaid!!
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #227 on: May 09, 2006, 02:55 PM »
SO--I would now say that my (ahem!) continued research into FNIT has been critically informed by the aforementioned statements made by Mr. Ledger.  I conclude that his portrayal of Ennis Del Mar in this scene, and all prior and subsequent scenes, is characterized by the highest possible degree of veracity, truthful adherence to the nature and motivations of the character as conceived by Annie Proulx, Larry McMurtry, and Diana Ossana.

In other words, Ennis ain't fakin'!  He and Jack are the real thing here, in the tent, exploring their newfound love--and lust--for one another.  Yeah!!  This has to be my all-time favorite thread.   :D
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #228 on: May 09, 2006, 03:50 PM »
Ang Lee says in an interview with Stewart Rose that they filmed the scene 13 times (!) then used the 7th take because the later ones lacked energy/spontaneity. This was disillusioning - I imagined their just doing it once because there is so much feeling in it, it doesn't look rehearsed. Ang also said that they left the scene till fairly late in the shooting schedule so that Jake and Heath had got to know each other better...
I shall stick with my belief that they did this as they did because they felt it and could do it no other way - to me they both seem to have identified very closely with their characters, which Ang says slightly differently in another interview. It is the most powerful love-scene I've ever seen on screen and by far the most convincing.
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #229 on: May 09, 2006, 04:04 PM »
Quote from: welshwitch on May 09, 2006, 03:50 PM
Ang Lee says in an interview with Stewart Rose that they filmed the scene 13 times (!) then used the 7th take because the later ones lacked energy/spontaneity. This was disillusioning - I imagined their just doing it once because there is so much feeling in it, it doesn't look rehearsed. Ang also said that they left the scene till fairly late in the shooting schedule so that Jake and Heath had got to know each other better...
I shall stick with my belief that they did this as they did because they felt it and could do it no other way - to me they both seem to have identified very closely with their characters, which Ang says slightly differently in another interview. It is the most powerful love-scene I've ever seen on screen and by far the most convincing.

I agree, absolutely--there *has* to be a reason why so many people are so moved by this love scene.  It is genuine and heartfelt.
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #230 on: May 09, 2006, 04:28 PM »
Quote from: welshwitch on May 09, 2006, 03:50 PM
It is the most powerful love-scene I've ever seen on screen and by far the most convincing.

I couldn't agree more!
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #231 on: May 09, 2006, 04:45 PM »
Quote from: LuvJackNasty on May 09, 2006, 04:28 PM
Quote from: welshwitch on May 09, 2006, 03:50 PM
It is the most powerful love-scene I've ever seen on screen and by far the most convincing.

I couldn't agree more!

I think we fell in love with the characters.  Their story of forbidden love. 
The chemistry between the two made it so hot.  I'll never forget Jack Twist and Ennis Del Mar .
I have never hung onto a story this long.  Heath and Jake made it all so real.
I don't know about the other 12 FNIT takes, but that 7th one sure was hot enough for me.
Just wasn't long enough ! ;D
     
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #232 on: May 09, 2006, 04:49 PM »
Quote from: karen1129 on May 09, 2006, 04:45 PM
Quote from: LuvJackNasty on May 09, 2006, 04:28 PM
Quote from: welshwitch on May 09, 2006, 03:50 PM
It is the most powerful love-scene I've ever seen on screen and by far the most convincing.

I couldn't agree more!

I think we fell in love with the characters.  Their story of forbidden love. 
The chemistry between the two made it so hot.  I'll never forget Jack Twist and Ennis Del Mar .
I have never hung onto a story this long.  Heath and Jake made it all so real.
I don't know about the other 12 FNIT takes, but that 7th one sure was hot enough for me.
Just wasn't long enough ! ;D
     

Neither have I. I am in love with these characters and story. I'd pay good money to see the other 12 takes!
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #233 on: May 09, 2006, 04:55 PM »
Quote from: LuvJackNasty on May 09, 2006, 04:49 PM
I am in love with these characters and story. I'd pay good money to see the other 12 takes!

Why would you pay good money?  You say you are in love with the characters yet you would pay good money to see Jake and Heath.  Ang chose the best of the lot and gave us the characters Jack and Ennis.

Not trying to make you feel stupid or anything LuvJackNasty, but your two sentences didn't make any sense to me...or did I miss something?

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« Reply #234 on: May 09, 2006, 05:14 PM »
I've already paid to see Jake and Heath as Jack and Ennis in the form of movie tickets and dvds. I would love to see every bit of film from this movie. I do love the characters and the story- why can't I want to see more? The comment about paying good money was in reference to posts last night about FNIT and the other takes.  Unless I stick with the SS I am seeing Jake and Heath portraying Jack and Ennis throughout the whole film.
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #235 on: May 09, 2006, 05:18 PM »
Quote from: LuvJackNasty on May 09, 2006, 05:14 PM
I've already paid to see Jake and Heath as Jack and Ennis in the form of movie tickets and dvds. I would love to see every bit of film from this movie. I do love the characters and the story- why can't I want to see more? The comment about paying good money was in reference to posts last night about FNIT and the other takes.  Unless I stick with the SS I am seeing Jake and Heath portraying Jack and Ennis throughout the whole film.

Ok, it is obvious I missed something along the way here.  Thanks.

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #236 on: May 09, 2006, 06:03 PM »
Quote from: LuvJackNasty on May 09, 2006, 04:49 PM
Quote from: karen1129 on May 09, 2006, 04:45 PM
Quote from: LuvJackNasty on May 09, 2006, 04:28 PM
Quote from: welshwitch on May 09, 2006, 03:50 PM
It is the most powerful love-scene I've ever seen on screen and by far the most convincing.

I couldn't agree more!

I think we fell in love with the characters.  Their story of forbidden love. 
The chemistry between the two made it so hot.  I'll never forget Jack Twist and Ennis Del Mar .
I have never hung onto a story this long.  Heath and Jake made it all so real.
I don't know about the other 12 FNIT takes, but that 7th one sure was hot enough for me.
Just wasn't long enough ! ;D
     

Neither have I. I am in love with these characters and story. I'd pay good money to see the other 12 takes!

Well, Okay.....  I'll admit, I would pay good money to see the other takes too  ;)
Who wouldn't !   ;)I would fight for one !
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #237 on: May 09, 2006, 06:40 PM »
Quote from: karen1129 on May 09, 2006, 06:03 PM
Quote from: LuvJackNasty on May 09, 2006, 04:49 PM
Quote from: karen1129 on May 09, 2006, 04:45 PM
Quote from: LuvJackNasty on May 09, 2006, 04:28 PM
Quote from: welshwitch on May 09, 2006, 03:50 PM
It is the most powerful love-scene I've ever seen on screen and by far the most convincing.

I couldn't agree more!

I think we fell in love with the characters.  Their story of forbidden love. 
The chemistry between the two made it so hot.  I'll never forget Jack Twist and Ennis Del Mar .
I have never hung onto a story this long.  Heath and Jake made it all so real.
I don't know about the other 12 FNIT takes, but that 7th one sure was hot enough for me.
Just wasn't long enough ! ;D
     

Neither have I. I am in love with these characters and story. I'd pay good money to see the other 12 takes!

Well, Okay.....  I'll admit, I would pay good money to see the other takes too  ;)
Who wouldn't !   ;)I would fight for one !

Ditto.  **reaching into pocket to see how much money I can find.**
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #238 on: May 09, 2006, 07:03 PM »
Quote from: Patriot1 on May 09, 2006, 05:18 PM
Quote from: LuvJackNasty on May 09, 2006, 05:14 PM
I've already paid to see Jake and Heath as Jack and Ennis in the form of movie tickets and dvds. I would love to see every bit of film from this movie. I do love the characters and the story- why can't I want to see more? The comment about paying good money was in reference to posts last night about FNIT and the other takes.  Unless I stick with the SS I am seeing Jake and Heath portraying Jack and Ennis throughout the whole film.

Ok, it is obvious I missed something along the way here.  Thanks.



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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #239 on: May 10, 2006, 10:15 PM »
Just in case you all are wondering, I split the topic regarding the full screen vs. widescreen debate to a separate topic in the All About DVD subboard  ;)
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