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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #720 on: Sep 25, 2009, 07:12 AM »
I believe that the things were already clear and the relationship between them open enough for any pretending. Both knew that, and both were vexed as expected! That made them even more lovely and sexy!  <^( <^( <^(

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #721 on: Sep 28, 2009, 08:18 AM »
I believe that the things were already clear and the relationship between them open enough for any pretending. Both knew that, and both were vexed as expected! That made them even more lovely and sexy!  <^( <^( <^(

Well, it certainly turned out that way.  Ennis certainly never denied it.  And he certainly didn't bring up any excuses.  I guess it's pretty much an obvious point: that he enjoyed it -- in spite of his not being queer and all that...


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« Reply #722 on: Sep 28, 2009, 10:41 AM »
Well, it certainly turned out that way.  Ennis certainly never denied it.  And he certainly didn't bring up any excuses.  I guess it's pretty much an obvious point: that he enjoyed it -- in spite of his not being queer and all that...



Well, who wouldn't?  >:D


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Yeah, there was no pretending there, Ennis was just embarrassed for doing it and even more - for enjoying it.  #s}

And Jack... oh, Jack... I saw my baby yesterday... ha was sooo cute when leaving the tent the next morning. I have a feeling that he felt like a culprit a bit, in front of Ennis, knowing that he had been planning to seduce Ennis for quite a while...   "s;"

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #723 on: Sep 28, 2009, 10:47 AM »
I have the feeling that both of them felt as pleased as guilty the morning after;in Ennis case,the first sensation was a little more hidden than for Jack,and viceversa in the second case.But,at the end,I do believe that it was kind of new experience for both of them;because,even if Jack had had these kind of relationships before,it was the first time he had fallen in love with another man.So,they felt like it was going to be something  very special in their life,something that would get that life never was the same for them...
Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #724 on: Sep 28, 2009, 10:55 AM »
What you say it's right... I just have a feeling that both of them put a little more blame on Jack!

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #725 on: Sep 28, 2009, 10:57 AM »
What you say it's right... I just have a feeling that both of them put a little more blame on Jack!

Huuummmm...maybe a little more on Jack¡.As a matter of fact,he was the only one of them who had some previous experience and took advantage of it...
Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #726 on: Sep 29, 2009, 07:04 AM »

Well, who wouldn't?  >:D


Ups, sorry! %&)

Yeah, there was no pretending there, Ennis was just embarrassed for doing it and even more - for enjoying it.  #s}

And Jack... oh, Jack... I saw my baby yesterday... ha was sooo cute when leaving the tent the next morning. I have a feeling that he felt like a culprit a bit, in front of Ennis, knowing that he had been planning to seduce Ennis for quite a while...   "s;"


Jack certainly looked sheepish in front of Ennis that morning, didn't he?  :)  He looked like a little boy caught taking a cookie from the cookie jar.   #)

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #727 on: Sep 29, 2009, 07:06 AM »
I have the feeling that both of them felt as pleased as guilty the morning after;in Ennis case,the first sensation was a little more hidden than for Jack,and viceversa in the second case.But,at the end,I do believe that it was kind of new experience for both of them;because,even if Jack had had these kind of relationships before,it was the first time he had fallen in love with another man.So,they felt like it was going to be something  very special in their life,something that would get that life never was the same for them...

But did you sense what I think was almost a vague smile on Ennis's lips when Jack came out of the tent (Ennis's back towards Jack)?  Don't know if this was my imagination...

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #728 on: Sep 29, 2009, 07:57 AM »
Jack certainly looked sheepish in front of Ennis that morning, didn't he?  :)  He looked like a little boy caught taking a cookie from the cookie jar.   #)

Did you say cookie?  :*(

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it was some cookie... ::)


Yeah, Jack looked so guilty there, but at the same time stubborn to fight for what he thought it was right!  <^( <^( <^(


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« Reply #729 on: Sep 29, 2009, 07:59 AM »
But did you sense what I think was almost a vague smile on Ennis's lips when Jack came out of the tent (Ennis's back towards Jack)?  Don't know if this was my imagination...


I don't see that smile... I believe that they were both puzzled, but both believing that Jack is a more guilty one!

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #730 on: Sep 29, 2009, 09:48 AM »
Jack certainly looked sheepish in front of Ennis that morning, didn't he?  :)  He looked like a little boy caught taking a cookie from the cookie jar.   #)

Yes,he looked rather embarrassing,I'd dare to say...He felt happy on one side for having got what he wanted but a little worried even on the other side for the consequences of this fact,specially for the possibility of Ennis getting away from him.And yes,he had token the most delicious cookie indeed ¡. :d)  #)
Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #731 on: Sep 29, 2009, 10:00 AM »
But did you sense what I think was almost a vague smile on Ennis's lips when Jack came out of the tent (Ennis's back towards Jack)?  Don't know if this was my imagination...

I haven't seen his smile,but I'll be more attentive next time...It wouldn't be strange to me,however,because he was in that moment a mixture of feelings and reactions,even if the basis was different from Jack's one.Maybe this last one was afraid of Ennis running away,but Ennis was doubtful about running or staying but pleased too.
Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #732 on: Sep 30, 2009, 07:59 AM »
Did you say cookie?  :*(

 (^) (^) (^)

it was some cookie... ::)


Yeah, Jack looked so guilty there, but at the same time stubborn to fight for what he thought it was right!  <^( <^( <^(



Or did you mean biscotto?  Hmm?   #)

He certainly didn't try to betray his true feelings -- probably a mixture of fear, uncertainty/unease (of how Ennis would handle the situation) and exhilaration (with a hunger for more.)


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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #733 on: Sep 30, 2009, 08:00 AM »
I don't see that smile... I believe that they were both puzzled, but both believing that Jack is a more guilty one!

I haven't seen his smile,but I'll be more attentive next time...It wouldn't be strange to me,however,because he was in that moment a mixture of feelings and reactions,even if the basis was different from Jack's one.Maybe this last one was afraid of Ennis running away,but Ennis was doubtful about running or staying but pleased too.

Well, it's kind of a vague look that suggests (to me) a vague smile (or the beginning of a smile).  I wish I could find a screencap of that very moment that shows Ennis's look.  Does anybody have it?


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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #734 on: Sep 30, 2009, 05:54 PM »
I didn't catch a smile from Ennis the next morning.  I thought of it as confusion more than anything.

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #735 on: Oct 01, 2009, 05:56 AM »
I didn't catch a smile from Ennis the next morning.  I thought of it as confusion more than anything.

I totally agree in that; Ennis the morning after was a confusion with legs ¡.But doubtless,as I have said in one of my former posts,he felt a mixture of feelings among which there was,also doubtless,a secret and almost denied satisfaction.In spite of himself...
Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #736 on: Oct 01, 2009, 07:50 AM »
I didn't catch a smile from Ennis the next morning.  I thought of it as confusion more than anything.

To be sure, there was certainly a lot of confusion -- you defintiely see it on his face.  Perhaps I am wrong to interpret the look as a "smile" -- but I wish I could find a picture of that scene and show you what I really mean...

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #737 on: Oct 01, 2009, 05:56 PM »
To be sure, there was certainly a lot of confusion -- you defintiely see it on his face.  Perhaps I am wrong to interpret the look as a "smile" -- but I wish I could find a picture of that scene and show you what I really mean...


I know that one never sees the pic of Ennis that morning at his horse, but how I love the pic of Jack on my Screensaver!!  (Red faced & all)!!!  I'm a Jack girl!

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #738 on: Oct 13, 2009, 07:01 AM »
I know that one never sees the pic of Ennis that morning at his horse, but how I love the pic of Jack on my Screensaver!!  (Red faced & all)!!!  I'm a Jack girl!

I love it too!  It really was a most complicated but ENDEARING look.  :)


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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #739 on: Oct 14, 2009, 01:51 AM »
I know that one never sees the pic of Ennis that morning at his horse, but how I love the pic of Jack on my Screensaver!!  (Red faced & all)!!!  I'm a Jack girl!

What would it be - all?   :*(

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His face after leaving the tent was like a child's saying: Alright, I stole the cookie, but it's not like you'd hid it well...  ::)

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #740 on: Oct 15, 2009, 04:37 PM »
I wonder whether Jack half-expected that Ennis would use the "I was drunk" excuse the next morning?  Or perhaps Jack half-assumed that Ennis would claim that he remembered nothing of the previous night because he was drunk...

Either "half" assumption wouldn't have been off base.  Let's face it....Ennis quickly pointed out "You know I ain't queer." Ennis wasn't the first man to make it with another guy and still see himself as straight.  Jack actually came out pretty good here.  A third possible outcome from that morning after could have resulted in Jack getting his butt kicked.  I'm pretty sure it's happened before in similar situations.  In this case Jack was safe because Ennis obviously felt something for him.
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #741 on: Oct 16, 2009, 02:08 AM »
Either "half" assumption wouldn't have been off base.  Let's face it....Ennis quickly pointed out "You know I ain't queer." Ennis wasn't the first man to make it with another guy and still see himself as straight.  Jack actually came out pretty good here.  A third possible outcome from that morning after could have resulted in Jack getting his butt kicked.  I'm pretty sure it's happened before in similar situations.  In this case Jack was safe because Ennis obviously felt something for him.

Hm... :s)... hadn't Jack already gotten his butt kicked the night before (in a way)... ;)

I don't see how Ennis could be doing what he did in the tent, and in the morning kick Jack's but... ???

But yes, Ennis felt something for jack, and Jack sensed that. <^(

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #742 on: Oct 16, 2009, 06:48 AM »
Either "half" assumption wouldn't have been off base.  Let's face it....Ennis quickly pointed out "You know I ain't queer." Ennis wasn't the first man to make it with another guy and still see himself as straight.  Jack actually came out pretty good here.  A third possible outcome from that morning after could have resulted in Jack getting his butt kicked.  I'm pretty sure it's happened before in similar situations.  In this case Jack was safe because Ennis obviously felt something for him.

Hello CSC! :)

Well, yes.  I should have noted THAT third possibility!  And I am quite sure that in many such instances in real life, this third option may have happened.  It's like having your cake and eat it too, I guess...

But the fact that Ennis didn't even say a thing that morning did imply that he felt something for Jack...


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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #743 on: Oct 16, 2009, 06:50 AM »
Hm... :s)... hadn't Jack already gotten his butt kicked the night before (in a way)... ;)

I don't see how Ennis could be doing what he did in the tent, and in the morning kick Jack's but... ???

But yes, Ennis felt something for jack, and Jack sensed that. <^(

You'd be surprised at how conflicted some people are, especially when it comes to such feelings.  I would say that contradictory reactions are quite common, although I only know of one instance where an acquaintance wencountered such contradictory behavior (the other guy was a seminarian-to-be!)

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #744 on: Oct 16, 2009, 07:17 AM »
You'd be surprised at how conflicted some people are, especially when it comes to such feelings.  I would say that contradictory reactions are quite common, although I only know of one instance where an acquaintance wencountered such contradictory behavior (the other guy was a seminarian-to-be!)

I suppose that you guys have experience. My opinion was that Ennis had done what he wanted. And it would be highly inappropriate if he starts any fight or something in the morning. Jack did provoke the things, but it was Ennis who kept them going, so he would have no right to blame the other side.

But... I can see the moment when someone, becoming "sober",  build the walls again, not wanting to admit that those walls fell down so easily in front of the loved/wanted person...

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #745 on: Oct 16, 2009, 02:48 PM »
It's obvious that Jack wanted some degree of intimacy with Ennis in FNIT from the moment he reached out and touched Ennis's hand to himself, the groping, unbuckling his belt and placing Ennis's hand back on his crotch, but to what degree was he expecting this thing to progress?  Personally, I feel that Jack may not have expected this to go as far as it did...but he was'nt complaining either.

It was Ennis who took it  all the way. He does'nt seem the type to be forced or goaded into anything he does'nt want to do, too stubborn and to set in his own ways for that. He was just finding it hard to admit to himself that he desired Jack, another male. but it was he who pushed Jack over and unbuckled his own belt, Jack did'nt force Ennis to do that. Although he was drinking heavily earlier in the night, he had enough faculties about himself by then  to know what he wanted. It was he who initiated it into a full blown sex act. . not Jack. It is this fact that I feel was at the heart of Ennis's feelings the next morning, that he was worried about how Jack would feel about him going "all the way".There was really no point starting a fight, or placing blame. He did what he wanted.

 I agree Jack sensed Ennis's feelings for him and came out to reassure Ennis that it was alright. Maybe Ennis was not ready to come face to face with Jack in fear that Jack may hate him for what he had done, but that was not the case. Jack attempted to lighten the moment ( see you for supper) and then  came up to the pasture and found Ennis to find out where Ennis's head was  at and to further reassure him that what they felt, and what they'd done was nobody's business but their own.
 
At one point as Ennis sat on the log contemplating  going into SNIT he throws another log on the fire then glances over at Jack in the tent . At that split moment , I would love to know what was going through Ennis's mind. ...Just some thoughts, Thanx.
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #746 on: Oct 16, 2009, 03:30 PM »
Aintfoolin, I can agree with your post, maybe all but Ennis's feelings in the morning. He was aware of his own initiative, but I believe that somewhere inside he was blaming Jack a little (not enough to get into the fight  though ;) ). He attracted him, he provoked him and he made him do what he did. I believe that his feelings were divided just as Ennis always was divided, into the things he loved and wanted and the things he thought were right thing to do.

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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #747 on: Oct 16, 2009, 03:57 PM »
Aintfoolin', I think you've summed it up here pretty good. Always amazed at how these guys turned Annie's word's into action and conveyed the back an' forth momentum of the moment with such brevity. I think you're right, Jack probably didn't expect to get f**ked that first night, there's usually a lot of steps along the way. But cowboy's ain't known for subtlety, and as Annie said, "Ennis ran full throttle on all roads whether fence mending or money spending" - once the ice was broken, or in the case, the pants were open, there was no stopping along the way. He was gonna' "see this thing through" to conclusion, whut's the point in stoppin', huh?

Later, next morning, when he realized what he'd done (f**ked his best friend) without being invited, even though Jack didn't resist at all and seemed more than willing to comply. I feel Ennis not only felt the internal conflicts of his own homophobia, but also feared that his action would be more than a little insulting to Jack. Jack, always the salesman, did a great job of clearing that up with his brief words about supper.
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #748 on: Oct 16, 2009, 05:32 PM »
I find the commentary interesting since my last post.  Just so we are clear, I don't want to imply that Ennis' internal conflict may have raised thoughts of beating up Jack.  I just understand that with other people the FNIT situation could have resulted in that third outcome.  I'm glad that wasn't the case for these two characters.  As we all got to know Ennis by the end of the story, it was clear that Jack wasn't in any danger after that first time.
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Re: First Night In Tent
« Reply #749 on: Oct 16, 2009, 10:50 PM »
 I agree. Guess it goes to what kind of men they  really were. just two two young confused cowboys falling in love. As you say CSC, in a different set of circumstances, things could've gotten pretty ugly.  Thankfully instead something beautiful happened.  Ennis was not going to beat up Jack, or harm Jack in any way.  His heart was lost to Jack even before FNIT. No consious effort set to get Jack in the bedroll or anything like that (I may be wrong)  but nor  could he put a name to what he felt,  but  he felt something had changed him.. something had already began gnaw at him, his feelings in conflict with his sense of right and wrong. He just thought that Jack would think he was "queer" and he...well tried to set the record straight as soon as he got the chance ..seeing that his performance of "uninvited sex" was so enjoyable ;) for both of them. %)Jackster >:D  The look of surprised pleasure on his face, like he'd died and went to cowboy heaven. :d:
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