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Re: Your Favorite Scene of the Movie - (possible spoiler)
« Reply #540 on: Sep 03, 2008, 03:22 PM »
I've watched it as a mixture of a little anger before Jack's slighty making fun at him and a little fun by himself as thinking:- What a good time we're going to pass here together with this guy ¡   ;D

Agreed:  Ennis was most likely thinking, "This guy's got a zany sense of humor, so this summer looks to be full of laughs and camaraderie."  Little did he know the extent of the camaraderie!  ;)
Also, Jack had shown compassion for Ennis when he commented on Ennis' childhood, "Shit, that's hard."
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Re: Your Favorite Scene of the Movie - (possible spoiler)
« Reply #541 on: Sep 04, 2008, 07:46 AM »
Agreed:  Ennis was most likely thinking, "This guy's got a zany sense of humor, so this summer looks to be full of laughs and camaraderie."  Little did he know the extent of the camaraderie!  ;)
Also, Jack had shown compassion for Ennis when he commented on Ennis' childhood, "Shit, that's hard."
(no pun intended)  :)

The scene at the bar is indeed made wonderful by the sense of empathy and compassion, even if end of the scene was a bit noncommital.

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Re: Your Favorite Scene of the Movie - (possible spoiler)
« Reply #542 on: Sep 04, 2008, 11:01 AM »
In the scene at the bar is where,IMO,one can see Ennis admiration to Jack,more still than in this little scene we've talked about.When Jack is explaining the last year incident with the lightning that killed several sheep and almost killed himself.Ennis then looks at him as if was his "hero",the kind of cowboy he had always wanted to be.I wonder if it was the very beginning of his friendship or something more in Ennis eyes.
Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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Re: Your Favorite Scene of the Movie - (possible spoiler)
« Reply #543 on: Sep 04, 2008, 04:16 PM »
;D  I don't even know if we can call it a straightforward smile -- his look was quite quizzical, as if he didn't know what to think of Jack. 

Personally, I would take it to be a smile.  :)

 

Ennis' facial expressions are astounding:   When dumb-shit Aguirre drives up, Ennis' face changes from stone cold sober to very pleasant (since he is hoping that Aguirre will be his new boss); a similar expression appears on Ennis' face when Jack says, "Let's git! Unless you want to sit around here tyin' knots all day"; miniscule smile after shooting the elk; joyful laughing at Jack's antics after stating"my Dad thought rodeo cowboys were all f---ups"; shy, sexy, vulnerable, hat-covering-you-know-what look when presenting himself to Jack in SNIT.  Man it's getting hot in here!  Will post this and open some windows!   :P

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Re: Your Favorite Scene of the Movie - (possible spoiler)
« Reply #544 on: Sep 05, 2008, 07:44 AM »
In the scene at the bar is where,IMO,one can see Ennis admiration to Jack,more still than in this little scene we've talked about.When Jack is explaining the last year incident with the lightning that killed several sheep and almost killed himself.Ennis then looks at him as if was his "hero",the kind of cowboy he had always wanted to be.I wonder if it was the very beginning of his friendship or something more in Ennis eyes.

Very interesting, MPJ!  because in all honesty, I thought that the look was one of disbelief or incredulity.  It always amazes me how scenes in BBM can take on different interpretations and lights...

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Re: Your Favorite Scene of the Movie - (possible spoiler)
« Reply #545 on: Sep 05, 2008, 07:46 AM »
Ennis' facial expressions are astounding:   When dumb-shit Aguirre drives up, Ennis' face changes from stone cold sober to very pleasant (since he is hoping that Aguirre will be his new boss); a similar expression appears on Ennis' face when Jack says, "Let's git! Unless you want to sit around here tyin' knots all day"; miniscule smile after shooting the elk; joyful laughing at Jack's antics after stating"my Dad thought rodeo cowboys were all f---ups"; shy, sexy, vulnerable, hat-covering-you-know-what look when presenting himself to Jack in SNIT.  Man it's getting hot in here!  Will post this and open some windows!   :P

Ennis's facial expressions were always very restrained -- befitting a character who was stoic and sometimes severe.  This is why the examples you cite stand out and even shine out.  The sun is always most brilliant when it emerges from the back of gray clouds.


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Re: Your Favorite Scene of the Movie - (possible spoiler)
« Reply #546 on: Sep 05, 2008, 10:04 AM »
Ennis's facial expressions were always very restrained -- befitting a character who was stoic and sometimes severe.  This is why the examples you cite stand out and even shine out.  The sun is always most brilliant when it emerges from the back of gray clouds.

Yeah,this is our Ennis¡  :c)  Beautifully stated,Thomas ¡
Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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Re: Your Favorite Scene of the Movie - (possible spoiler)
« Reply #547 on: Sep 05, 2008, 04:48 PM »
Ennis's facial expressions were always very restrained -- befitting a character who was stoic and sometimes severe.  This is why the examples you cite stand out and even shine out.  The sun is always most brilliant when it emerges from the back of gray clouds.



Thomas:  These facial expressions really make us understand how Heath truly BECAME Ennis!  The DVD interviews show an entirely different person--Heath as he was in real life.  It's actually comforting to me to separate the actor from the character, because it would be just too painful to have a REAL Ennis walking on this earth!  Jack also BECAME the characters in his movies--from Jack Twist to Douglas Freeman (Rendition).

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Re: Your Favorite Scene of the Movie - (possible spoiler)
« Reply #548 on: Sep 08, 2008, 08:23 AM »
Thanks MPJ and pattyjean!

So much of what we love in the scenes is because of the artistry of both our beloved actors.  It is their gift to us. 

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Re: Your Favorite Scene of the Movie - (possible spoiler)
« Reply #549 on: Sep 08, 2008, 03:18 PM »
Thanks MPJ and pattyjean!

So much of what we love in the scenes is because of the artistry of both our beloved actors.  It is their gift to us. 

YOU BET,THOMAS¡   :clap:   <^( 
Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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Re: Your Favorite Scene of the Movie - (possible spoiler)
« Reply #550 on: Sep 09, 2008, 01:10 AM »
Thomas:  These facial expressions really make us understand how Heath truly BECAME Ennis!  The DVD interviews show an entirely different person--Heath as he was in real life.  It's actually comforting to me to separate the actor from the character, because it would be just too painful to have a REAL Ennis walking on this earth!  Jack also BECAME the characters in his movies--from Jack Twist to Douglas Freeman (Rendition).

This is so true....Ennis in reality would have been too painful...although u never know how much pain many people have in their hearts and how they r suffering inside...it was great as to how Heath transformed into Ennis...

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Re: Your Favorite Scene of the Movie - (possible spoiler)
« Reply #551 on: Sep 09, 2008, 07:20 AM »
YOU BET,THOMAS¡   :clap:   <^( 

Thanks MPJ.

A scene that has been growing in my estimation over the years is the wordless scenes that show them going up BBM.  From the beginning, I had admired the cinematography in those scenes.  But over the years I have come to realize that what I love best about these scenes is carried by the beauty of the music. 

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Re: Your Favorite Scene of the Movie - (possible spoiler)
« Reply #552 on: Sep 09, 2008, 12:03 PM »
Thanks MPJ.

A scene that has been growing in my estimation over the years is the wordless scenes that show them going up BBM.  From the beginning, I had admired the cinematography in those scenes.  But over the years I have come to realize that what I love best about these scenes is carried by the beauty of the music. 

Yah,very often the best,more beautiful and poetical scenes in the movie are simply "orned" with music,silence or body language.And one understands and feels this "another" way of communication.
Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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Re: Your Favorite Scene of the Movie - (possible spoiler)
« Reply #553 on: Sep 09, 2008, 12:55 PM »
Thanks MPJ.

A scene that has been growing in my estimation over the years is the wordless scenes that show them going up BBM.  From the beginning, I had admired the cinematography in those scenes.  But over the years I have come to realize that what I love best about these scenes is carried by the beauty of the music. 

yes very beautiful music all throughout the movie

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Re: Your Favorite Scene of the Movie - (possible spoiler)
« Reply #554 on: Sep 10, 2008, 02:36 AM »
yes very beautiful music all throughout the movie
Music touches ones soul..whenever i hear the background music in the promos or the film i get chiils...its the music that makes the film even more beautiful, painful and addictive....it reveals pure love, affection, grief and immortal love :) ^f^

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Re: Your Favorite Scene of the Movie - (possible spoiler)
« Reply #555 on: Sep 10, 2008, 07:19 AM »
Music is clearly a language in those BBM scenes, evoking emotions and ideas in place of words.  It is amazing how much is conveyed to the viewers in the many of the early scenes of the movie without the use of words...

And of course, there are the scenes where we see nothing but clouds, the setting sun, and (later) the moon.  These scenes are truly evocative. 

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Re: Your Favorite Scene of the Movie - (possible spoiler)
« Reply #556 on: Sep 10, 2008, 10:24 AM »
Music is clearly a language in those BBM scenes, evoking emotions and ideas in place of words.  It is amazing how much is conveyed to the viewers in the many of the early scenes of the movie without the use of words...

And of course, there are the scenes where we see nothing but clouds, the setting sun, and (later) the moon.  These scenes are truly evocative. 

Never realized the impact of a soundtrack!  But the chord played as Ennis jumps out of the semi, right as his foot hits the pavement, we are sucked in bigtime.  Other memorable scenes when the soundtrack grabs us:  right after Alma sees J&E passionately embracing in the stairwell and closes the door; the four-years-of-waiting "son-of-a-bitch" mega-hug and wall-slamming kisses; when Ennis tenderly holds the shirts and sobs--in Jack's closet.  Still reels me in... :P

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Re: Your Favorite Scene of the Movie - (possible spoiler)
« Reply #557 on: Sep 10, 2008, 10:27 PM »
Never realized the impact of a soundtrack!  But the chord played as Ennis jumps out of the semi, right as his foot hits the pavement, we are sucked in bigtime.  Other memorable scenes when the soundtrack grabs us:  right after Alma sees J&E passionately embracing in the stairwell and closes the door; the four-years-of-waiting "son-of-a-bitch" mega-hug and wall-slamming kisses; when Ennis tenderly holds the shirts and sobs--in Jack's closet.  Still reels me in... :P

So right, so right, about the music.  (Even the Focus Features/River Road Entertainment chords at the beginning seem part of the soundtrack to me.)

And I love of course the bolded, above, and love how you put it. !!  :-*

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Re: Your Favorite Scene of the Movie - (possible spoiler)
« Reply #558 on: Sep 11, 2008, 07:24 AM »
One of the greatest things about the Dozy Embrace is the absolute beauty and synchronicity of the music -- again, in an almost wordless scene.  This scene, the scnee leading up to it, and the final parting look of Jack are completely dominated by the music.  It is perhaps the most beautiful example of them all, although this very intense scene evokes feelings that are far from happy.

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Re: Your Favorite Scene of the Movie - (possible spoiler)
« Reply #559 on: Sep 11, 2008, 04:34 PM »
ksxks...I'm glad that you mentioned the music at the very beginning (Focus Features/Riverbend).  I thought I was the only one who felt that way.  Ya' mean I'm not  ^*()?

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Re: Your Favorite Scene of the Movie - (possible spoiler)
« Reply #560 on: Sep 11, 2008, 10:37 PM »
ksxks...I'm glad that you mentioned the music at the very beginning (Focus Features/Riverbend).  I thought I was the only one who felt that way.  Ya' mean I'm not  ^*()?

I doubt you'll find you're "the only one" about anything in this place!  Why we're all here :)

I almost got chills just reading your post, because I can "hear" that music in my bones...

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Re: Your Favorite Scene of the Movie - (possible spoiler)
« Reply #561 on: Oct 05, 2008, 03:55 AM »
U know there is a huge co-incidence

In my life I have watched so many films and background scrore....Till today in my 22 years of life there r only 2 background scores which haunts me and overwhelmes me everytime I watch them......
they are background score of Brokeback mountain and Crouching Tiger and hidden Dragon..
Now both these films r directed by Ang Lee..
So I can say that he is a master mind and he knows how to steal the heart of the audience...
He very well knows that a film is more precious, gives a more detailed message and leaves a stronger impact via music
so he sees that he gets the best background score for his films..
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« Reply #562 on: Oct 05, 2008, 10:28 PM »
U know there is a huge co-incidence

In my life I have watched so many films and background scrore....Till today in my 22 years of life there r only 2 background scores which haunts me and overwhelmes me everytime I watch them......
they are background score of Brokeback moutain and Crouching Tiger and hidden Dragon..
Now both these films r directed by Ang Lee..
So I can say that he his a master mind and he knows how to steal the heart of the audience...
He very well knows that a film is more precious, gives a more detailed message and leaves a stronger impact via music
so he sees that he gets the best background score for his films..


So true, smartestsonia.  The music has so very much to do with our perceptions of the scenes.  We know Gustavo Santaoaella is such a fine composer -- who wrote the score of CTHD?

I still have the tune of "The Wings" in my head almost at all times, almost three years later...

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Re: Your Favorite Scene of the Movie - (possible spoiler)
« Reply #563 on: Oct 06, 2008, 12:54 AM »
Thanks Kathy..thats exactly what I am saying..the tune is so strong and it has a lasting impact on our minds and hearts...we can relate to the tune with the pain in the film and thats why it overwhelmes us...even if I listen to the tune a thousand times it will be the same for me...there is some magic in the tune..the magic to just make everthing go still and leave us mersmerized....even though we feel heavy with the sadness in the film there is also a sweet joy of the pure and warm love shared by them which is complemented by this amazing and heartfelt music...
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« Reply #564 on: Oct 06, 2008, 09:21 AM »
Thanks Kathy..thats exactly what I am saying..the tune is so strong and it has a lasting impact on our minds and hearts...we can relate to the tune with the pain in the film and thats why it overwhelmes us...even if I listen to the tune a thousand times it will be the same for me...there is some magic in the tune..the magic to just make everthing go still and leave us mersmerized....even though we feel heavy with the sadness in the film there is also a sweet joy of the pure and warm love shared by them which is complemented by this amazing and heartfelt music...

Such a beautiful post. I love every word you said. Thank you.  :^^)

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Re: Your Favorite Scene of the Movie - (possible spoiler)
« Reply #565 on: Oct 08, 2008, 02:36 AM »
Such a beautiful post. I love every word you said. Thank you.  :^^)

 :t) Tammy   ^f^
I really feel that the music is a strong motivator of the film..it gives me chills...

It is so soothing to the ears although my heart trembles hearing it....so its a mixed feeling of soothing love <^( as well as an ocean of passion, pain and heartflet sadness :\'(

I have too many favourite scenes in the movie ..the 1st look, SNIT, reunion scene and when Jack tells Ennis that they could live together or sometimes he misses him so much that he can hardly stand it...However, if u notice in all these scenes we r anyways so emotional and overwhelmed and in the background this amazing masterpiece music is being played and the impact of the scenes is double or triple due to that...its like your eyes, ears and heart r completely submersed into Ennis and Jack and u can see or feel nothing but their love for each other......awwww...pure love is so beautiful and beyond words and I feel music can convey what words cant........touches my heart  <^(

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Re: Your Favorite Scene of the Movie - (possible spoiler)
« Reply #566 on: Nov 13, 2008, 10:15 AM »
So, so hard to pick just one favorite scene.  They're all just genius IMO.  But I guess 2 that stand out for me are the reunion kiss and the SNIT.  The depth of feeling is palpable.  I love everything that takes place in the mountains, too - so idyllic.  What is it about mountains that represents such a heady rush of feeling?  All my life I've dreamed of just giving up the materialistic life and escaping to the mountains.  Is it that we feel so much more a part of nature there?  That we're "sheltered" in some way?  OK, I'm rambling but my heart is full.  If anyone can understand, fellow Brokies can!
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Re: Your Favorite Scene of the Movie - (possible spoiler)
« Reply #567 on: Nov 14, 2008, 09:08 AM »
So, so hard to pick just one favorite scene.  They're all just genius IMO.  But I guess 2 that stand out for me are the reunion kiss and the SNIT.  The depth of feeling is palpable.  I love everything that takes place in the mountains, too - so idyllic.  What is it about mountains that represents such a heady rush of feeling?  All my life I've dreamed of just giving up the materialistic life and escaping to the mountains.  Is it that we feel so much more a part of nature there?  That we're "sheltered" in some way?  OK, I'm rambling but my heart is full.  If anyone can understand, fellow Brokies can!

Ypu picked too very constsating scenes -- one is very intense and volatile, whereas the other was very lyrical and tender.  Both are indeed very beautiful.


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« Reply #568 on: Nov 14, 2008, 10:35 AM »
So, so hard to pick just one favorite scene.  They're all just genius IMO.  But I guess 2 that stand out for me are the reunion kiss and the SNIT.  The depth of feeling is palpable.  I love everything that takes place in the mountains, too - so idyllic.  What is it about mountains that represents such a heady rush of feeling?  All my life I've dreamed of just giving up the materialistic life and escaping to the mountains.  Is it that we feel so much more a part of nature there?  That we're "sheltered" in some way?  OK, I'm rambling but my heart is full.  If anyone can understand, fellow Brokies can!

Yes,it's hard to pick up only one favorite scene; even two or three,or more... ??? But I've always liked their life on the mountains;not only,as you say,because they are there like a part of nature in their shelter.But also because they feel and are free as they aren't going to be-and feel somehow-anymore.
Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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Re: Your Favorite Scene of the Movie - (possible spoiler)
« Reply #569 on: Nov 15, 2008, 04:39 AM »
Yes,it's hard to pick up only one favorite scene; even two or three,or more... ??? But I've always liked their life on the mountains;not only,as you say,because they are there like a part of nature in their shelter.But also because they feel and are free as they aren't going to be-and feel somehow-anymore.
so true MPJ  ^f^ The mountains was their home in true sense..Home is where the heart and I feel that most of them belonged to those mountains.I feel that it was the mountains who witnessed their beautiful love and  they connected with that place as they became one there...

I love the SNIT scenes as it shows a beautiful expression of pure and selfless love
Reunion scene is passionate and a burst out of all the emotions of being apart for 4 years
I also love the scene shot on the night of the reunion and that is because Ennis and Jack feel free again after 4 years <^(