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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2370 on: Feb 25, 2008, 09:53 PM »
Hello Brokies..

The posts I've seen recently, I can't describe the beauty, the comfort, yet sadness in everybody that has now given me goosebumps. I've also gone through a rough day..A girl, a couple of days ago (Feb. 22) got killed in a car crash from a man under the influence of drugs. What many of the kids in my school didn't know is she was one of our students. I couldn't believe it! She was ONLY 14 years old!! It made me stop, dead in my tracts. How could this happen to her? I never knew her, maybe saw her in the hallway, but never spoke a word to her, and yet I feel the pain and wish I could give something back. Soon, I started to think about Heath, how he was taken away from us, yes, he was older than her, much older, but he was still young. People still shouldn't die in their 20s and defiantly shouldn't be taken away from us at 14! These two people didn't deserve to die, both had so much going for them. But why? Maybe it was their time to go, that god meant for these two people to go beyond the sunshine, I will never truly know. But today, made me think how short life really is and how a person you didn't even know (both of them) could make you feel SO much pain. "Why do the good die young?" - God only knows... I'm sorry I don't have much else to say, my mind is just, blank..So I say, good night to all and the sweetest dreams  :^^)

R.I.P. Angelica N. 1993-2008
Heath Ledger 1979-2008 


 :ghug: Lis. That is so sad! No, people shouldn't be taken that young. I think for all of the sadness we feel, no matter how unbearable it is at times, reminds us that we are still here and more importantly that we possess a capacity to love and to care, even those we didn't know. We will never have the answers as to why and I think that is part of what trips us up at times. I think we're geared to try and figure things out- to make it make sense when the fact is, is that it doesn't and that's where a sense helplessness comes in.  :ghug: to you and sweet dreams  :^^)
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2371 on: Feb 25, 2008, 10:56 PM »
Hello Brokies..

The posts I've seen recently, I can't describe the beauty, the comfort, yet sadness in everybody that has now given me goosebumps. I've also gone through a rough day..A girl, a couple of days ago (Feb. 22) got killed in a car crash from a man under the influence of drugs. What many of the kids in my school didn't know is she was one of our students. I couldn't believe it! She was ONLY 14 years old!! It made me stop, dead in my tracts. How could this happen to her? I never knew her, maybe saw her in the hallway, but never spoke a word to her, and yet I feel the pain and wish I could give something back. Soon, I started to think about Heath, how he was taken away from us, yes, he was older than her, much older, but he was still young. People still shouldn't die in their 20s and defiantly shouldn't be taken away from us at 14! These two people didn't deserve to die, both had so much going for them. But why? Maybe it was their time to go, that god meant for these two people to go beyond the sunshine, I will never truly know. But today, made me think how short life really is and how a person you didn't even know (both of them) could make you feel SO much pain. "Why do the good die young?" - God only knows... I'm sorry I don't have much else to say, my mind is just, blank..So I say, good night to all and the sweetest dreams  :^^)

R.I.P. Angelica N. 1993-2008
Heath Ledger 1979-2008 


I am so sorry for this young girl.  I hope she rests in peace.    I pray for her family to have strength to go on.

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Aren't we at the stage these days when it just doesn't ... matter? It's a story of love and it's a story between two people. If people can't get over that and just accept it as a story, then that's their problem. I'm big enough and brave enough to do it. - Heath Ledger on doing BBM

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2372 on: Feb 25, 2008, 11:43 PM »
This thread has some of the most beautiful, heartfelt and heartbreaking posts the past few days and I'd be quoting pretty much every one of them if I could. Big hugs to everyone.  :ghug: :ghug: :ghug:


Michelle and Kristin - I hardly know what to say. Your posts have upset me so much - thinking about you both feeling this is the end of something. Maybe it's because for me, it's had the opposite effect: I watched BBM again and it felt almost like the first time. Then, I was discovering something - someone - new, Heath's incredibly portrayal capturing my heart completely, making me thirst for knowledge of him and search for others who felt the same way about an amazing actor and an incredible movie. Now I find that I'm clinging on even more strongly because that's it - Brokeback is the connection to the man and that will never be broken, despite his passing. I want to discuss the movie more than I have for months, I want to look at photos because they keep him alive in my mind and heart and I want to read fics because I still see Heath when I read about Ennis.

I know we're all different...but I wish there was something I could do or say to help you come back to us. I don't want to lose this community, and it breaks my heart to think of some of us coming down the mountain early :\'(

I was going to respond to this earlier and say that I was scared to watch the film again because if my attempt at AKT made me start sobbing I truly feared what BBM would do to me. Then I figured what's the "worst" that could happen? That I'd watch it and realize its impact hasn't changed? Like that would be such a bad thing. That would be the best thing. Then I thought maybe I was scared because what if it didn't have the same impact? What if it all really changed? That was the thought that truly scared me. Well I decided to sort of go for it. I watched one of the BBM music vids that always had me in tears- nothing. Saw one where they show Jack's attack- I always look away because I can't bear to watch that-but I saw a snippet of it and nothing. Then I went to one of the scenes that in countless times in watching it (even stand alone) has never failed to reduce me to a sobbing mess- the confrontation scene. Nothing- not a damn tear. Maybe it's because that other hurt is still to strong. I don't know. I don't intend to come down from the mountain- that thought is unbearable and this is home and where my family and friends are. But how does one continue to be a brokie and embrace the boys when it feels like they're gone too? I told Barb earlier today that I don't intend to give them up without a fight but I may not have a choice. It's probably just too soon- I hope.  :\'(
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2373 on: Feb 25, 2008, 11:49 PM »
This thread has some of the most beautiful, heartfelt and heartbreaking posts the past few days and I'd be quoting pretty much every one of them if I could. Big hugs to everyone.  :ghug: :ghug: :ghug:

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You said it, LJN.

 :ghug: every one  :ghug: %)
Heath, you are loved, like this, always.

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2374 on: Feb 26, 2008, 12:21 AM »
I was going to post some of the following yesterday but it put me back into a very dark place, so much so that all of my BBM stuff is now sitting in a box- I packed it all away because I couldn't stand to look at it anymore.

I was wondering if anyone else is stuck in the in-between place. I guess I’m feeling lost, if that’s the right word, sort of like a sheep that’s gotten separated from the flock. And I can't seem to transition back to life before 1/22- everything is upside down and inside out. I know it won't ever be the same again but Iguess I'm trying to find that new "normal". I always said it would take something big to shake me back down to “reality” again but I never expected nor wanted this. Then I started wondering if this was some kind of "sign"- to come down off the mountain-you know the bad storm from the pacific rolling in. Our paradise lost? I don't mean to turn his death into some kind of mission statement or whatever and of the day- he died. We will all die. There doesn't have to be a bigger reason behind it all- that's just life but yet it feels like there should be some reason behind it. Because it's senseless, untimely, tragic, heart-breaking and I guess in order to try and make some sense of it I need to grasp at straws or something. I guess I'm feeling a sense of "it's only fun until someone gets hurt" and then the “game” is over.

I kept thinking of AP's words- "the imagined power of BBM". But could it have been imaginary? No. There is no way that "power" wasn't real. And yet, I just can’t seem to get back to “normal”- J/E seem like strangers- I saw a vid with the reunion kiss in it and I had no reaction to it, tried to look at Jake pics last week, you know dipping a toe in, and it may as well have been a blank screen, no reaction; I have no interest in my fan fics. Friday night I went into the meets threads and looked at the three NY ones I was a part of in October and November. I guess trying to remember why I’m here, the really good times etc. And yeah I smiled and kind of felt good. But then it started to remind me of my last trip to NY and how everything just crashed down. There was that sharp contrast between the first three meets- the high, the euphoria, the love- just brokies being brokies and then how the January trip was such a harsh, horrible reality that I still can't find the words to describe it-everything changed for me then.

I guess I’m just at odds with myself in the sense that I know nothing will ever be the same again and the reason behind it is too heartbreaking to put into words. We’ve lost someone we love; someone who we didn't have the privelege to really know but who meant a great deal to us regardless. His poor parents had the unimaginable task of burying their child-something I hope to never experience and a little girl will grow up never really knowing her Daddy. I know it happens everyday in the world but not in my world and I guess I just don’t know how to reconcile it. I guess I should stop because this is turning into another non-sensical ramble.

LJN, this breaks my heart for you, and your feelings and words are so profound.  All I can do is say I hear you -- and I do.

I wonder if your being the one, with Ethan, to go deliver our grief to Heath's apartment was too much for you.  You two did that for all of us, and maybe...oh I don't know, I don't know.  I don't know how to help you, and I wish I could.

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2375 on: Feb 26, 2008, 12:31 AM »
Michelle and Kristin - I hardly know what to say. Your posts have upset me so much - thinking about you both feeling this is the end of something. Maybe it's because for me, it's had the opposite effect: I watched BBM again and it felt almost like the first time. Then, I was discovering something - someone - new, Heath's incredibly portrayal capturing my heart completely, making me thirst for knowledge of him and search for others who felt the same way about an amazing actor and an incredible movie. Now I find that I'm clinging on even more strongly because that's it - Brokeback is the connection to the man and that will never be broken, despite his passing. I want to discuss the movie more than I have for months, I want to look at photos because they keep him alive in my mind and heart and I want to read fics because I still see Heath when I read about Ennis.

I know we're all different...but I wish there was something I could do or say to help you come back to us. I don't want to lose this community, and it breaks my heart to think of some of us coming down the mountain early :\'(

You have said it exactly, Lindsey.  I feel as strongly as ever for BBM and the story of Ennis and Jack.  With even more poignancy to it now.  What I have lost is the beautifulness of being a FAN of Heath...but no, I haven't even lost that -- I am still a fan of Heath.  I ache that we will not see him anymore, but I am no stranger to tragic loss -- the ache of loss and the tragedies of life is something I live with.  But this whole BBM experience, especially this community, I hold onto even more right now.  I don't want anyone to go away!  I don't want Michelle and Kristin to load up their trucks and drive away...

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2376 on: Feb 26, 2008, 12:53 AM »


When all has been said,
what could be said,
never enough, words not,
not much,
tears and chokes
gasps, nothing enough,
not near,
no hugs or flowers or
sunset goodbyes,
loss far too great...
but when it's been given
all we've got
he's in our vision, acutely in our heart
stop the world,
a minute,
with an image,
seared painfully
burning moving picture,
timeless, never enough, now always
a moment,
quiet, stark pin drop
silence
when it seems all has been said
breaths are held,
cries swallowed
hearts broken
our moment of silence
all we have, our best.
Our goodbye.

jessi
2-25-08

Beautiful, Jessi...and thank you.  Your words resonate Heath's spirit...

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2377 on: Feb 26, 2008, 12:54 AM »
LJN, this breaks my heart for you, and your feelings and words are so profound.  All I can do is say I hear you -- and I do.

I wonder if your being the one, with Ethan, to go deliver our grief to Heath's apartment was too much for you.   You two did that for all of us, and maybe...oh I don't know, I don't know.  I don't know how to help you, and I wish I could.

kathy

 :ghug: Kathy and thanks. I think that is a big factor in this. I've tried to write about it so many times just to get it out of me and I can't seem to get very far. I think it took something I wasn't ready or didn't have in me to give- what that was I don't know; can't explain it. I've only spoken to a few people about it. The short and semi quick version is Brooklyn was very sad but "okay", touching the letters in the cement was.... and then came SoHo... after we got off of the subway and started to walk that line from the SS kept running through my head: Within a mile Ennis felt like someone was pulling his guts out hand over hand a yard at a time. and we went to buy flowers and after that we were on our way. We stopped at a corner waiting to cross the street and I looked up and to my right and locked onto that floor of the building. I don't even remember crossing the street I was crying so much. And then we laid the stuff down and hung out for a long time mostly quiet and lost in thought. I know this is probably going to sound crazy but that's never stopped me before, but standing there, at times, I'd look towards the front door of the building and all I kept seeing in my mind was that stretcher being brought out over and over. We lit up some of the candles that had gone out and at some point we left and sat in a coffe house, drank some tea and talked and then went back to look at it in the dark; it was this sense of not wanting to leave him. And we had a portable cd player and each put a headphone in one ear and played Candle in the Wind and then The Wings. That's the very short version and there's more but.. I don't regret doing it, I asked to do it and I wanted to do it because I had no other way left to say thank you for all of this. And I'm going to stop now because it's late and I'm getting all worked up again.
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2378 on: Feb 26, 2008, 01:02 AM »
you say you dont have words like other people but thats not true, your words are just as inspiring as anyothers ive heard here. your piece about grief is amazing and so true.

Yes, Ethan, your words are absolutely beautiful and so true.  I love what you said about putting our numbers on the mailbox...  This is so full of meaning to me -- Ennis's state of mind in doing this, and ours.  (The numbers on my mailbox are "ennisjack.com" !

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2379 on: Feb 26, 2008, 01:25 AM »
:ghug: Kathy and thanks. I think that is a big factor in this. I've tried to write about it so many times just to get it out of me and I can't seem to get very far. I think it took something I wasn't ready or didn't have in me to give- what that was I don't know; can't explain it. I've only spoken to a few people about it. The short and semi quick version is Brooklyn was very sad but "okay", touching the letters in the cement was.... and then came SoHo... after we got off of the subway and started to walk that line from the SS kept running through my head: Within a mile Ennis felt like someone was pulling his guts out hand over hand a yard at a time. and we went to buy flowers and after that we were on our way. We stopped at a corner waiting to cross the street and I looked up and to my right and locked onto that floor of the building. I don't even remember crossing the street I was crying so much. And then we laid the stuff down and hung out for a long time mostly quiet and lost in thought. I know this is probably going to sound crazy but that's never stopped me before, but standing there, at times, I'd look towards the front door of the building and all I kept seeing in my mind was that stretcher being brought out over and over. We lit up some of the candles that had gone out and at some point we left and sat in a coffe house, drank some tea and talked and then went back to look at it in the dark; it was this sense of not wanting to leave him. And we had a portable cd player and each put a headphone in one ear and played Candle in the Wind and then The Wings. That's the very short version and there's more but.. I don't regret doing it, I asked to do it and I wanted to do it because I had no other way left to say thank you for all of this. And I'm going to stop now because it's late and I'm getting all worked up again.

Thank you, Michelle.  It helps me to hear these details.  Not that it helps you to have said them...but maybe it has?  Whatever helps you...that's what I want for you.   :ghug:

Segueing...and this does not pertain exactly to helping you...but I was thinking:  Jack died, and we came together to mourn his death (while recognizing Enis's story was arguably sadder than Jack's dying).  Well, others here have said they almost feel like now Ennis has died, too, has joined Jack.  So, what if Ennis had also died in the story?  It would still have been an amazing story and movie, an awesomely beautiful tragedy, and our responses to it would have been slightly different...but in a way, that is what has happened, and we are already here together and can continue learning from this story, which now really has become larger than life so to speak.  I have no conclusions, but maybe someone else can extract from these thoughts something more useful...

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2380 on: Feb 26, 2008, 02:19 AM »
This thread has some of the most beautiful, heartfelt and heartbreaking posts the past few days and I'd be quoting pretty much every one of them if I could. Big hugs to everyone.  :ghug: :ghug: :ghug:


I was going to respond to this earlier and say that I was scared to watch the film again because if my attempt at AKT made me start sobbing I truly feared what BBM would do to me. Then I figured what's the "worst" that could happen? That I'd watch it and realize its impact hasn't changed? Like that would be such a bad thing. That would be the best thing. Then I thought maybe I was scared because what if it didn't have the same impact? What if it all really changed? That was the thought that truly scared me. Well I decided to sort of go for it. I watched one of the BBM music vids that always had me in tears- nothing. Saw one where they show Jack's attack- I always look away because I can't bear to watch that-but I saw a snippet of it and nothing. Then I went to one of the scenes that in countless times in watching it (even stand alone) has never failed to reduce me to a sobbing mess- the confrontation scene. Nothing- not a damn tear. Maybe it's because that other hurt is still to strong. I don't know. I don't intend to come down from the mountain- that thought is unbearable and this is home and where my family and friends are. But how does one continue to be a brokie and embrace the boys when it feels like they're gone too? I told Barb earlier today that I don't intend to give them up without a fight but I may not have a choice. It's probably just too soon- I hope.  :\'(

What a way to start my day!!! Crying like a baby!!!  :\'(  :\'( This is so sad Michelle, so so so sad. I want to help you, to help myself too, but I don't know how to do it. If I only could bring him back to us!!! I could everything to got that. Damn.

Oh Ethan, I want to put a number on my mailbox, but I need all my brokies mates to do it too, 'cause I don't want to be alone, not these days. Need you all.

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2381 on: Feb 26, 2008, 04:51 AM »
To Michelle and Keren,and all these Brokies that aren't able,or better said,DON´T FEEL ABLE to go out from the hollow of sadness they're now in. ^f^
In these days several Brokies have said the most beautiful words one can hear about sorrow and its relief,friendship,love,pain and,above all,LIFE.So,it's difficult for me to add something new to posts so beautifully expressed as the one from Tammy,f.e.,and specially something that can relieve you from your grief with the proper words.Moreover,I've been away from this thread for some days ,simply because I needed it.Perhaps you're thinking I'm selfish because I postponed other fellow's needs to mine,but I think this is question...I mean, the first two weeks I felt absolutely incapable to separate myself from these threads of grief and memories for Heath;and more still,to post in threads so "frivolous" as the one about BBM jokes or the other about nature pictures,f.e.I wrote here or in some PM as a way to give and receive some kind of relief from and to other Brokies,or simply,I read what other people wrote and felt,without sometimes feeling able to answer them...But only in these threads;I found writing on the rest like an outrage to Heath in my depressed state of mind.
But little by little I was inferring that I wouldn't be able to help anybody if I kept on plunging into depression,above all because I WASN´T ABLE TO HELP MYSELF FIRST.I arrived to the conclusion that if Heath could see us from this place he's now-and I'm sure he can...-would feel very,very proud for having stirring so deep feeling in his fans;but at the same time,he wouldn't like us to feel so broken down,even he would feel angry with himself for having let us in this state.So,I decided I MUST CARRY ON if not for myself,or for all of you,FOR HIM,FOR HIS MEMORY,FOR THE LOVE HE GAVE AND BE GIVEN...And I began to write in another threads,even making some fun,-yes,why not?-and run away just a little from this vicious circle we're in.Does this mean I've forgotten Heath?Does this mean I don't mind your grief? Does this mean I'm more inhuman than before? Frankly,I think not because if I had been so,believe me,I hadn't arrived to this conclusion;simply,I had lived my life from the very beginning without posing these questions in my mind because I HADN´T NEEDED IT(surely I hadn't thought even about them...).
We all are around a Brokeback bonfire that are letting to die out with the tears of our sorrow and our incapability to revive it from our own revival itself...WE CAN´T¡ All of us have some persons who need us,who are suffering by seeing us in this way,and whom we can help if they're also with problems because,I repite,we aren't able to help ourselves.Who are we to do such a bad trick?Please,think about it...Think about persons like Simone,who had two losses almost at the same time-if you don't like me to personalise so much,excuse me for this...-;now she's posting everywhere and,in her personal life,she's at the point of publishing a book while she's already writing a second one.She is reviving Brokeback bonfire,she didn't allow that sun sets on the mountain...Take your torches and just DO IT,YOU TOO.Please,do it,please... :^^)


Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2382 on: Feb 26, 2008, 06:21 AM »
beatiful posts everyone  :ghug: :^^)
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2383 on: Feb 26, 2008, 06:58 AM »
Firstly, I'm sorry to intrude, ???

But as a lurker over the last month I felt the need to register to say thanks to everyone here who's posted. There have been many many beautiful posts that I've felt moved by, and in light of Heath's untimely departure from us, it's brought great comfort to know that I'm not the only one feeling like this and that it's ok to feel like this too.

I'll let you get back to it now and thanks once again. xx
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2384 on: Feb 26, 2008, 08:27 AM »
Thank you everybody, I wish I could give you back even a little of what I'm getting here, :ghug:  :ghug: to everybody.
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2385 on: Feb 26, 2008, 08:39 AM »
Thank you everybody, I wish I could give you back even a little of what I'm getting here, :ghug:  :ghug: to everybody.

keren the very fact your here is giving everyone some comfort the first step if healing is knowing your not going through it alone. every time you post about how you feel you reasure everyone of the fact they are not alone in their grief  :ghug:

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« Reply #2386 on: Feb 26, 2008, 08:57 AM »
First, I would like to apologize for my mistakes in english, but I just wanted to say that Heath Ledger's death was a great shock. When i heard the bad news, it was 7:00AM here in France and I had to seat and I just burst into tears.
I never thought that this would hurt me so bad. Even now, I just can't believe he's gone. He was one of the greatest actors I know and he will stay in our hearts and minds forever through his wonderful films and especially thanks to Brokeback Moutain.


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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2387 on: Feb 26, 2008, 09:00 AM »
Everything feel so wrong today, 5 weeks....... :\'(I can't believe that its been so long already. It feels like yesterday I got the news. I don't know what to do, I just cry all the time and feel so empty. But It's nice to know that everyone here understand my feelings and that I'm not alone.
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2388 on: Feb 26, 2008, 10:24 AM »
     Have been reading the previous posts and can see, now, what a hurt it must have been to go to Broome St. and lay those flowers and also
tokens of love.  I guess we will always be in debt to those who made that journey for all of us.  We owe them our thanks and quiet understanding
of the lingering cost to them.
    People sometimes say death is a part of life, and we might as well get used to something we can't change.  But there is also something in the
human spirit that says:  no.  We do not forget, we do not leave those we cared about behind.  We are not animals, that notice a loss and then
continue as before, and that may be what defines us as different from all the other parts of the natural world, volcanoes, birds, tides, the wind.
We just resist the laws of nature and keep our loved ones along with us.
   It's still a continuing hurt, the loss of Heath.  And  it still remains strangely unreal.  But again, we are made differently from rocks and water
and wind and one of our greatest pains, saying no to what is clearly there, may prove to be our greatest gift and strength.  That we CAN say
no, may mean, we were meant to.  Grief may be more than an emotion; it could be a promise, in some upside-down way, that we will always
be more than what elements we are made of and so, we'll meet again.  The wind doesn't say no.  Lovers do.

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2389 on: Feb 26, 2008, 11:00 AM »
Thank you everybody, I wish I could give you back even a little of what I'm getting here, :ghug:  :ghug: to everybody.
The best thing you can give us back is to be sure that you're going to make the effort of recovering yourself.I,at least,would feel as paid back with the best of jewels... :) :ghug:
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Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2390 on: Feb 26, 2008, 11:37 AM »
I'm so glad I've found a place to express my feelings. I see that I'm not the only one feeling that way.  :ghug:

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2391 on: Feb 26, 2008, 11:38 AM »
I'm so glad I've found a place to express my feelings. I see that I'm not the only one feeling that way.  :ghug:

I feel the same way and welcome to the forum :) :ghug:
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2392 on: Feb 26, 2008, 11:44 AM »
I'm so glad I've found a place to express my feelings. I see that I'm not the only one feeling that way.  :ghug:

 #$# Frenchfan¡ You see that your feelings and your relief from the grief are shared for many other persons...
Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
("If I asked")
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2393 on: Feb 26, 2008, 03:05 PM »
Whenever I play Eminem's song 'When I'm Gone' I can't help but think of Matilda.
The words in the chorus are most painful.  :\'(

And when I'm gone, just carry on, don't mourn
Rejoice every time you hear the sound of my voice
Just know that I'm looking down on you smiling
And I didn't feel a thing, So baby don't feel no pain
Just smile back
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2394 on: Feb 26, 2008, 03:06 PM »
Whenever I play Eminem's song 'When I'm Gone' I can't help but think of Matilda.
The words in the chorus are most painful.  :\'(
And when I'm gone, just carry on, don't mourn
Rejoice every time you hear the sound of my voice
Just know that I'm looking down on you smiling
And I didn't feel a thing, So baby don't feel no pain
Just smile back


i can see why these words do that to you. :\'(

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2395 on: Feb 26, 2008, 03:09 PM »
Whenever I play Eminem's song 'When I'm Gone' I can't help but think of Matilda.
The words in the chorus are most painful.  :\'(

And when I'm gone, just carry on, don't mourn
Rejoice every time you hear the sound of my voice
Just know that I'm looking down on you smiling
And I didn't feel a thing, So baby don't feel no pain
Just smile back


I have never heard the song, but that made me cry :\'(
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2396 on: Feb 26, 2008, 03:36 PM »
Hi Everyone,
It's been a few days since I've read this thread, I just needed to find a happier one for a bit, but I signed on to the main site and saw that the memorial banner was changed. It took me a second to realize what was different, then it really upset me. I started to feel like I was suddenly the only one left not over this horrible reality, so I decided to check back on all of you. I'm sorry to see so many still hurting, but glad to see everyone still sticking together and supporting each other. I share your pain, anger, and hurt, and one day soon, hope to share in the future, the tuff realization that we have carried on, NOT FORGOTTEN, but carried on. But not there yet. I will be with some wonderful Brokies in Las Vegas soon, I hope all of you find your ways of dealing with this. I send all of you on this thread my love and hugs---Jess:)
"I’d rather live in his world…..than live without him….in mine."                                       (Midnight Train to Georgia)

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2397 on: Feb 26, 2008, 03:39 PM »
Hi Everyone,
It's been a few days since I've read this thread, I just needed to find a happier one for a bit, but I signed on to the main site and saw that the memorial banner was changed. It took me a second to realize what was different, then it really upset me. I started to feel like I was suddenly the only one left not over this horrible reality, so I decided to check back on all of you. I'm sorry to see so many still hurting, but glad to see everyone still sticking together and supporting each other. I share your pain, anger, and hurt, and one day soon, hope to share in the future, the tuff realization that we have carried on, NOT FORGOTTEN, but carried on. But not there yet. I will be with some wonderful Brokies in Las Vegas soon, I hope all of you find your ways of dealing with this. I send all of you on this thread my love and hugs---Jess:)
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2398 on: Feb 26, 2008, 04:07 PM »
 :ghug:  Back at ya!  :)
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #2399 on: Feb 26, 2008, 04:08 PM »
Whenever I play Eminem's song 'When I'm Gone' I can't help but think of Matilda.
The words in the chorus are most painful.  :\'(

And when I'm gone, just carry on, don't mourn
Rejoice every time you hear the sound of my voice
Just know that I'm looking down on you smiling
And I didn't feel a thing, So baby don't feel no pain
Just smile back


I've never heard that song Asali, but just reading the words fills me with sadness... :\'( :\'(
"Look at my boots, old and dingy" - Heath Ledger