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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3810 on: Jul 12, 2008, 10:33 AM »
:t) for the clarification Ted cant wait to read where can i see your post?

Hi, it will be posted to my livejournal - dontwanttosaygb.livejournal.com, I will make posts to various thread when the post is up, which should be today folks...it is looking good now...

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3811 on: Jul 12, 2008, 10:37 AM »
Thank you so much, Keren. You don't know how much your words mean to me, because I feel terribly sad and guilty and ashamed now, and I can't stop crying my eyes out. I can't stand the idea of having done something very bad to Ted and to all of you.

I just want to hide in a hole and never go out again....

I'm so very sorry.

Hi Tammy,

I am not in the least bit mad, I was a bit more upset that something that never happened was being said and I don't think that is fair to Jake, to imply something happened when it never did.

You will all, or whoever is interested, get to read all about this very shortly, and you can then all be your own judges on what happened.  Our document has very little interpretation of Jake, just the facts, our thoughts and feelings are commented on because they are ours, I think it is only a few times when we try to interpret what Jake is doing or meaning, but everyone can be their own judge.

All I can say is that Jake is a great guy, most things said about him are wrong, and well you can be you're own judge...

But I am not mad, so you don't need to crawl in a hole or anything, but I would ask that if anyone sees or hears this rumour being spread anywhere else please nip it in the bud, because it didn't happen and I don't think it is fair to Jake to let people believe it did.

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3812 on: Jul 12, 2008, 11:38 AM »
 

   Jessicat - that spooky computer jump - - - phew, straight out of the X files.  But that probably happened to the right person as some of the rest of us might have been whacked out, and you were very level-headed.

Thanks for the vote of confidence Tony  :)

It definitely was an interesting 20 seconds. Maybe it's good though...to be reminded how far we've come.

    And my dear brokie sister Tammy, I do not believe there is one person here that is even slightly upset with you. Do not let this simple mistake make you question for a second sharing your thoughts and feelings with us here. I've told you before, when I was alone and came back to this site, your's were some of the most important posts in this thread to me.It was like you took that empty hollow place inside me that was hurting so bad, and filled it with understanding, and I was no longer alone; so it affects me extra hard when I know you are hurting about something, it makes me want to ease that pain for you, like your wonderful presence here has done for so many others. Cheer up, stay strong, and don't forget your way home; we'll be here when you need us :^^)   
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3813 on: Jul 12, 2008, 04:46 PM »
Ted are you a friend of Jake's? If not, i'm very surprised he would talk with fans about Heath, he didn't even speak publicly about him. :-\\  I really expect him to speak when the promotional tour for his movie begins. I know he'll just say the best about Heath, like everyone else who spoke. Heath was very respected and liked by many people not only family and friends also co-stars.

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3814 on: Jul 15, 2008, 03:10 PM »
Ted, I read about your and Lisa's meeting with Jake. I apologize I didn't know what it was about in my previous post. I enjoyed reading your report. Thank you! :)

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3815 on: Jul 16, 2008, 12:30 PM »
 :\'(   Having just joined the forum, I have been wiped out by the sentiments I have been able to see, both in the numbers and content.  Its almost six months later and the pain still is the same.  I thank everyone for sharing their sentiments.

I have only read this in one other place and have been surprised to not see it mentioned again.  In the last scenes, when Ennis finds his shirt inside Jack's (in Jack's closet), with Jack's shirt holding his, I lost it.  Then later in the last scene in the trailer when you see the shirts reversed, with Ennis' shirt on the outside holding Jack, I lost it again.  Both scenes were so touching, and I read that the changing of the shirts was Heath's idea, not Ang Lee.  Sometimes it is still hard to separate Heath from Ennis.  RIP Heath, you will be in our hearts and memories for such a long time to come.

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3816 on: Jul 16, 2008, 02:36 PM »
:\'(   Having just joined the forum, I have been wiped out by the sentiments I have been able to see, both in the numbers and content.  Its almost six months later and the pain still is the same.  I thank everyone for sharing their sentiments.

I have only read this in one other place and have been surprised to not see it mentioned again.  In the last scenes, when Ennis finds his shirt inside Jack's (in Jack's closet), with Jack's shirt holding his, I lost it.  Then later in the last scene in the trailer when you see the shirts reversed, with Ennis' shirt on the outside holding Jack, I lost it again.  Both scenes were so touching, and I read that the changing of the shirts was Heath's idea, not Ang Lee.  Sometimes it is still hard to separate Heath from Ennis.  RIP Heath, you will be in our hearts and memories for such a long time to come.

Weclome elgrandodickie

Lovely post.

When you read about somebody special
who has met an untimely end
although you didn't even know them personally
feels like you've lost a friend

Miss you Heath, till next time xx

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3817 on: Jul 16, 2008, 11:02 PM »
Welcome rlh03. :^^) You've definitely come to the right place.


And yes, that was Heath's idea to do and just another indication of how well he understood the character of Ennis Del Mar. They will both be in our hearts forever. :ghug:
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3818 on: Jul 16, 2008, 11:03 PM »
What she said! :)
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3819 on: Jul 17, 2008, 07:51 AM »
. . . And yes, that was Heath's idea to do and just another indication of how well he understood the character of Ennis Del Mar.

And he knew he understood it, which (I feel) gave him confidence to put his entire soul into Ennis. Diana Ossana has been quoted saying that Heath excitedly told her: "I think you're going to like what I did with the last scene." It was a surprise to her when he opened the closet. She knew then he could see into Ennis's soul. (Sorry for bein' OT.)
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3820 on: Jul 17, 2008, 09:36 AM »
It's not OT jackster. That was beautifully said. :ghug:
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3821 on: Jul 17, 2008, 09:49 AM »
It's not OT jackster. That was beautifully said. :ghug:

I fully agree,Barb :clap: .Jackster,it's not only "In topic" but a wonderful way to get to know Heath a little better; to know how deeply he entered into Ennis skin to understand his inner struggle with himself mainly.To know his responsability before everything he did,as an actor and as a person.The same than knowing how Jake behave with Ted and Lisa,with these little details we can understand better why we loved him and will love him so much... <^(
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3822 on: Jul 18, 2008, 02:19 PM »
I don't know if this new book has been discussed anywhere on the forum, but I just found it yesterday at Border's Book Store and was blown away. It is truly a beautiful tribute to Heath.  Title: Heath Ledger, Holywood's Dark Star, written by Brian J. Robb.   It is an oversized paperback with many beautiful pictures of Heath, many from his movies.  The narrative is excellent.  Each page contains one or two quotes from Heath himself -- true insights into his mind and soul.  I haven't finished reading it yet, but the first half is a wonderful explanation of everything Heath -- his childhood, where he came from, his family, how he got involved in the art of acting, etc.  I can't imagine but the second half will be as good.  I will mention this on the book thread, also, but I know lots of people who frequent this thread would be interested in this book.  I hope you enjoy it as much as I do.  It is amazing to me that such a well-done effort has hit the bookstores so soon after Heath's passing.  Robb did a hell of a job synthesizing (sp?) Heath's life.
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3823 on: Jul 18, 2008, 02:26 PM »
Thank you so much for this Alice.  ^f^ I really want to read that book, and look at all those pics.  <^( <^(

I think this is wonderful!!

But I don't know if I can buy it here in Spain.... :-\\ :-\\ :-\\

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3824 on: Jul 18, 2008, 03:06 PM »
  Dear Baby Tammy - How about Amazon.com?  Or the other internet book stores? 

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« Reply #3825 on: Jul 18, 2008, 03:33 PM »
Oh, thank you so much, friend!!!  :^^) I didn't think about Amazon!!  %&) Now, I'm gonna try to find it there!!

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3826 on: Jul 19, 2008, 07:13 AM »
I don't know if this new book has been discussed anywhere on the forum, but I just found it yesterday at Border's Book Store and was blown away. It is truly a beautiful tribute to Heath.  Title: Heath Ledger, Holywood's Dark Star, written by Brian J. Robb.   It is an oversized paperback with many beautiful pictures of Heath, many from his movies.  The narrative is excellent.  Each page contains one or two quotes from Heath himself -- true insights into his mind and soul.  I haven't finished reading it yet, but the first half is a wonderful explanation of everything Heath -- his childhood, where he came from, his family, how he got involved in the art of acting, etc.  I can't imagine but the second half will be as good.  I will mention this on the book thread, also, but I know lots of people who frequent this thread would be interested in this book.  I hope you enjoy it as much as I do.  It is amazing to me that such a well-done effort has hit the bookstores so soon after Heath's passing.  Robb did a hell of a job synthesizing (sp?) Heath's life.

I didn't find it on Amazon... :-\\

Links are not permitted here but if anyone finds it somewhere where you can order it online, please pm me.
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3827 on: Jul 19, 2008, 09:48 PM »
The book to which I refer above is published in London by Plexus and the ISBN number is: 13-978-0-85965-427-2.  It cost $19.95 at Border's. 12.99 in UK.  The author is a New York Times best-selling author who wrote Johnny Depp: A Modern Rebel and The Leonardo diCaprio Album.  So, I suppose he specializes in popular actors?????  All I can surmise is that he has done a pile of research for this book --- mostly in the form of interviews, I imagine, since little has actually been written before with this depth about Heath -- at least to my knowledge.  Good luck in finding it.  PM me if you need help, Tammy.
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3828 on: Jul 19, 2008, 11:24 PM »
It's still three days before his six-month anniversary, and I am at the point where Heath is surreal, a legend that has lived forever and will live forever in his movies. I watched A Knight's Tale again, and the first part of Brokeback Mountain (before the FNIT), and surprisingly few tears came. While watching the movie, Heath is still alive, and vibrant and real. It is only afterwards, out of the blue, reading tributes to his movies, and thinking about something he quoted, that sadness descends like a fog over a noisy city, and the silence speaks loudly of the impact of the man whom I've never met, but will forever love.
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3829 on: Jul 20, 2008, 11:43 AM »
I understand how you feel,Andrew...For me now is also as if Heath was surreal indeed,like somebody who is living through his films;is as if I saw the character,or at the most,the actor.Is when I read about tributes working fellows or friends are doing in his memory when the man appears in all his magnitude...He's not Ennis,or Jacob Grimm,or the priest in "The Order";he's the good friend,the person infinitely perfectionist in all he did,the father of a lovely baby,the fellow whom all his coworkers will remember,the friend my friend at distance...But I know watching TDK will be hard for me,because he won't be then The Joker;he will be Heath in my eyes again.As you say,I didn't know him,but I'll always love him... <^(   :\'(
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« Reply #3830 on: Jul 20, 2008, 06:05 PM »
 :ghug: friends.
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3831 on: Jul 21, 2008, 01:24 PM »
Tomorrow is the 22nd. Tuesday again. six months exactly.  :\'(

Heath, we're still here, thinking about you. Every day.
The truth is... sometimes I miss you so much I can hardly stand it.

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« Reply #3832 on: Jul 21, 2008, 01:50 PM »
I know....I've been thinking about it all day. 6 months exactly... :\'( :\'( :\'(


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« Reply #3833 on: Jul 21, 2008, 04:02 PM »
Tomorrow is the 22nd. Tuesday again. six months exactly.  :\'(

Heath, we're still here, thinking about you. Every day.

Yes,Tuesday again and six months exactly... :\'(  Damn,Heath¡ Six months without you...Keren :ghug: :ghug:
Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3834 on: Jul 21, 2008, 05:18 PM »

[SIX MONTHS WITHOUT YOU ALREADY;SIX MONTHS KNOWING THAT THERE'S A STAR THAT SHINES MORE THAN THE OTHERS.AND WE KNOW THAT YOU'RE THIS STAR,BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN CALLED TO HEAVEN SO THAT THE ANGELS ENJOY YOUR SKILLS.BUT SINCE THEN WE NEED THEM AND MISS THEM HERE...

HEATH,WE SWEAR...
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Ennis’s eyes gone bright with shock, mouth opening then closing again. “Love?” Ennis said finally, voice strangling in his throat.

Jack smiled sad. “Yeah, Ennis. Love.” Leaned forward and kissed Ennis’s temple, whispered, “What’d you think it was, all this time?”
("If I asked")
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« Reply #3835 on: Jul 21, 2008, 05:45 PM »
Beautiful tribute, Ali.  :^^)
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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3836 on: Jul 21, 2008, 09:24 PM »
Beautiful tribute, Ali.  :^^)

I doubly second that.  :ghug: :ghug: :^^) :^^)

Beautiful words, and beautiful image for a beautiful life that was lived to the fullest.

Gracias, amiga.  :ghug:
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« Reply #3837 on: Jul 21, 2008, 09:56 PM »
entertainment tonight did a nice feature on the evolution of Heath as an actor and how those roles brought him to the Joker, they will have a followup on it tomorrow but 6 months huh seems like just yesterday :-\\

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« Reply #3838 on: Jul 21, 2008, 10:06 PM »
Beautiful Ali  :ghug:
“What Jack remembered and craved in a way he could neither help nor understand was the time that distant summer on Brokeback when Ennis had come up behind him and pulled him close, the silent embrace satisfying some shared and sexless hunger."

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Re: Heath Ledger - In Loving Memory
« Reply #3839 on: Jul 22, 2008, 02:10 AM »
It's still three days before his six-month anniversary, and I am at the point where Heath is surreal, a legend that has lived forever and will live forever in his movies. I watched A Knight's Tale again, and the first part of Brokeback Mountain (before the FNIT), and surprisingly few tears came. While watching the movie, Heath is still alive, and vibrant and real. It is only afterwards, out of the blue, reading tributes to his movies, and thinking about something he quoted, that sadness descends like a fog over a noisy city, and the silence speaks loudly of the impact of the man whom I've never met, but will forever love.

OMG !  Your words are so beautiful, they touch me deeply in the heart and...They make me cry  :\'( :\'( :\'(

 :^^) (You whrite like a poet dear Andrew  ^f^)
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